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Chapter 28 - The Flight of the Prince

Q1 - What are your thoughts on Dumbledore’s death?

Q2 - Who do you think has died so far?

“Cruc —” But Snape parried the curse, knocking Harry backward off his feet before he could complete it; “Cruc —” yelled Harry for the second time, aiming for the figure ahead illuminated in the dancing firelight, but Snape blocked the spell again. Harry could see him sneering. “No Unforgivable Curses from you, Potter!” he shouted over the rushing of the flames, Hagrid’s yells, and the wild yelping of the trapped Fang. “You haven’t got the nerve or the ability —” “Incarc —” Harry roared, but Snape deflected the spell with an almost lazy flick of his arm.

Q3 - Is Snape really an amazing wizard?

“Fight back!” Harry screamed at him. “Fight back, you cowardly —” “Coward, did you call me, Potter?” shouted Snape. “Your father would never attack me unless it was four on one, what would you call him, I wonder?”
“Sectum — !” Snape flicked his wand and the curse was repelled yet again; but Harry was mere feet away now and he could see Snape’s face clearly at last: He was no longer sneering or jeering; the blazing flames showed a face full of rage. Mustering all his powers of concentration, Harry thought, Levi — “No, Potter!” screamed Snape. “You dare use my own spells against me, Potter? It was I who invented them — I, the Half-Blood Prince! And you’d turn my inventions on me, like your filthy father, would you? I don’t think so . . . no!”

Q4 - Thoughts on Snape being the Half-Blood Prince?

“Kill me then,” panted Harry, who felt no fear at all, but only rage and contempt. “Kill me like you killed him, you coward —” “DON’T—” screamed Snape, and his face was suddenly demented, inhuman, as though he was in as much pain as the yelping, howling dog stuck in the burning house behind them — “CALL ME COWARD!”

Q5 - Is Snape a coward?

Harry heard Hagrid’s moan of pain and shock, but he did not stop; he walked slowly forward until he reached the place where Dumbledore lay and crouched down beside him. He had known there was no hope from the moment that the full Body-Bind Curse Dumbledore had placed upon him lifted, known that it could have happened only because its caster was dead, but there was still no preparation for seeing him here, spread-eagled, broken: the greatest wizard Harry had ever, or would ever, meet. Dumbledore’s eyes were closed; but for the strange angle of his arms and legs, he might have been sleeping. Harry reached out, straightened the half-moon spectacles upon the crooked nose, and wiped a trickle of blood from the mouth with his own sleeve. Then he gazed down at the wise old face and tried to absorb the enormous and incomprehensible truth: that never again would Dumbledore speak to him, never again could he help. . . .

Q6 - Dumbledore is actually dead?

To the Dark Lord I know I will be dead long before you read this but I want you to know that it was I who discovered your secret. I have stolen the real Horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as I can. I face death in the hope that when you meet your match, you will be mortal once more. R.A.B

Q7 - Theories on who RAB is?

Q8 - Did Dumbledore die for nothing?

Q9 - What is your favorite Dumbledore memory?

Chapter 29 - The Phoenix Lament

Fear stirred in Harry’s chest again: He had forgotten the inert figures he had left behind. “Ginny, who else is dead?” “Don’t worry, none of us.” “But the Dark Mark — Malfoy said he stepped over a body —” “He stepped over Bill, but it’s all right, he’s alive.” There was something in her voice, however, that Harry knew boded ill. “Are you sure?” “Of course I’m sure . . . he’s a — a bit of a mess, that’s all. Greyback attacked him. Madam Pomfrey says he won’t — won’t look the same anymore. . . .”

Q1 - Do you think Harry understands the cost of what this fight is all about?

“No!” Lupin looked wildly from Ginny to Harry, as though hoping the latter might contradict her, but when Harry did not, Lupin collapsed into a chair beside Bill’s bed, his hands over his face. Harry had never seen Lupin lose control before; he felt as though he was intruding upon something private, indecent. He turned away and caught Ron’s eye instead, exchanging in silence a look that confirmed what Ginny had said.

Q2 - Have you ever experienced grief like this?

Gulping, Madam Pomfrey pressed her fingers to her mouth, her eyes wide. Somewhere out in the darkness, a phoenix was singing in a way Harry had never heard before: a stricken lament of terrible beauty. And Harry felt, as he had felt about phoenix song before, that the music was inside him, not without: It was his own grief turned magically to song that echoed across the grounds and through the castle windows. How long they all stood there, listening, he did not know, nor why it seemed to ease their pain a little to listen to the sound of their mourning, but it felt like a long time later that the hospital door opened again and Professor McGonagall entered the ward. Like all the rest, she bore marks of the recent battle: There were grazes on her face and her robes were ripped.
“Snape,” repeated McGonagall faintly, falling into the chair. “We all wondered . . . but he trusted . . . always . . . Snape . . . I can’t believe it. . . .”

Q3 - Do you think the professors knew better?

Q4 - Is there anything about the story that the group is giving that is strange to you or hits you differently? Are there any clues in there?

“Of course, it doesn’t matter how he looks. . . . It’s not r-really important . . . but he was a very handsome little b-boy . . . always very handsome . . . and he was g-going to be married!” “And what do you mean by zat?” said Fleur suddenly and loudly. “What do you mean, ‘ ’e was going to be married?’ ” Mrs. Weasley raised her tear-stained face, looking startled. “Well — only that —” “You theenk Bill will not wish to marry me anymore?” demanded Fleur. “You theenk, because of these bites, he will not love me?” “No, that’s not what I —” “Because ’e will!” said Fleur, drawing herself up to her full height and throwing back her long mane of silver hair. “It would take more zan a werewolf to stop Bill loving me!” “Well, yes, I’m sure,” said Mrs. Weasley, “but I thought perhaps — given how — how he —” “You thought I would not weesh to marry him? Or per’aps, you hoped?” said Fleur, her nostrils flaring. “What do I care how he looks? I am good-looking enough for both of us, I theenk! All these scars show is zat my husband is brave! And I shall do zat!” she added fiercely, pushing Mrs. Weasley aside and snatching the ointment from her.

Q5 - How cool is Fleur?

“You see!” said a strained voice. Tonks was glaring at Lupin. “She still wants to marry him, even though he’s been bitten! She doesn’t care!” “It’s different,” said Lupin, barely moving his lips and looking suddenly tense. “Bill will not be a full werewolf. The cases are completely —” “But I don’t care either, I don’t care!” said Tonks, seizing the front of Lupin’s robes and shaking them. “I’ve told you a million times. . . .” And the meaning of Tonks’s Patronus and her mouse-colored hair, and the reason she had come running to find Dumbledore when she had heard a rumor someone had been attacked by Greyback, all suddenly became clear to Harry; it had not been Sirius that Tonks had fallen in love with after all. “And I’ve told you a million times,” said Lupin, refusing to meet her eyes, staring at the floor, “that I am too old for you, too poor . . . too dangerous. . . .” “I’ve said all along you’re taking a ridiculous line on this, Remus,” said Mrs. Weasley over Fleur’s shoulder as she patted her on the back. “I am not being ridiculous,” said Lupin steadily. “Tonks deserves somebody young and whole.” “But she wants you,” said Mr. Weasley, with a small smile. “And after all, Remus, young and whole men do not necessarily remain so.”

Q6 - What do you think of Lupin and Tonks?

“Harry,” she said, “I would like to know what you and Professor Dumbledore were doing this evening when you left the school.” “I can’t tell you that, Professor,” said Harry.

Q7 - Why doesn’t Harry tell more people about this?

“Dunno,” said Harry, lying back on his bed fully clothed and staring blankly upwards. He felt no curiosity at all about R.A.B.: He doubted that he would ever feel curious again. As he lay there, he became aware suddenly that the grounds were silent. Fawkes had stopped singing. And he knew, without knowing how he knew it, that the phoenix had gone, had left Hogwarts for good, just as Dumbledore had left the school, had left the world . . . had left Harry.

Chapter 30 - The White Tomb

There might still be as many as four Horcruxes out there somewhere, and each would need to be found and eliminated before there was even a possibility that Voldemort could be killed. He kept reciting their names to himself, as though by listing them he could bring them within reach: the locket . . . the cup . . . the snake . . . something of Gryffindor’s or Ravenclaw’s . . . the locket . . . the cup . . . the snake . . . something of Gryffindor’s or Ravenclaw’s . . .

Q1 - Any further ideas on what the Horcruxes could be?

“I should’ve shown the book to Dumbledore,” said Harry. “All that time he was showing me how Voldemort was evil even when he was at school, and I had proof Snape was too —”

Q2 - If Harry could have Dumbledore back for one question, what question should he ask him?

The crowd continued to swell; with a great rush of affection for both of them, Harry saw Neville being helped into a seat by Luna. Neville and Luna alone of the D.A. had responded to Hermione’s summons the night that Dumbledore had died, and Harry knew why: They were the ones who had missed the D.A. most . . . probably the ones who had checked their coins regularly in the hope that there would be another meeting.

Q3 - What do you think of Umbridge at the funeral?

And then, without warning, it swept over him, the dreadful truth, more completely and undeniably than it had until now. Dumbledore was dead, gone. . . . He clutched the cold locket in his hand so tightly that it hurt, but he could not prevent hot tears spilling from his eyes: He looked away from Ginny and the others and stared out over the lake, toward the forest, as the little man in black droned on. . . . There was movement among the trees. The centaurs had come to pay their respects too. They did not move into the open but Harry saw them standing quite still, half hidden in shadow, watching the wizards, their bows hanging at their sides. And Harry remembered his first nightmarish trip into the forest, the first time he had ever encountered the thing that was then Voldemort, and how he had faced him, and how he and Dumbledore had discussed fighting a losing battle not long thereafter. It was important, Dumbledore said, to fight, and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then could evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated. . . .

Q4 - Will Harry win this fight?

And Harry saw very clearly as he sat there under the hot sun how people who cared about him had stood in front of him one by one, his mother, his father, his godfather, and finally Dumbledore, all determined to protect him; but now that was over. He could not let anybody else stand between him and Voldemort; he must abandon forever the illusion he ought to have lost at the age of one, that the shelter of a parent’s arms meant that nothing could hurt him. There was no waking from his nightmare, no comforting whisper in the dark that he was safe really, that it was all in his imagination; the last and greatest of his protectors had died, and he was more alone than he had ever been before.
“Ginny, listen . . .” he said very quietly, as the buzz of conversation grew louder around them and people began to get to their feet, “I can’t be involved with you anymore. We’ve got to stop seeing each other. We can’t be together.” She said, with an oddly twisted smile, “It’s for some stupid, noble reason, isn’t it?” “It’s been like . . . like something out of someone else’s life, these last few weeks with you,” said Harry. “But I can’t . . . we can’t . . . I’ve got things to do alone now.”

Q5 - You think Harry is right to break up with Ginny?

“I’m not coming back even if it does reopen,” said Harry. Ron gaped at him, but Hermione said sadly, “I knew you were going to say that. But then what will you do?” “I’m going back to the Dursleys’ once more, because Dumbledore wanted me to,” said Harry. “But it’ll be a short visit, and then I’ll be gone for good.”

Q6 - What is Harry going to do?

“We’ll be there, Harry,” said Ron. “What?” “At your aunt and uncle’s house,” said Ron. “And then we’ll go with you wherever you’re going.” “No —” said Harry quickly; he had not counted on this, he had meant them to understand that he was undertaking this most dangerous journey alone. “You said to us once before,” said Hermione quietly, “that there was time to turn back if we wanted to. We’ve had time, haven’t we? “We’re with you whatever happens,” said Ron. “But mate, you’re going to have to come round my mum and dad’s house before we do anything else, even Godric’s Hollow.” “Why?” “Bill and Fleur’s wedding, remember?” Harry looked at him, startled; the idea that anything as normal as a wedding could still exist seemed incredible and yet wonderful. “Yeah, we shouldn’t miss that,” he said finally. His hand closed automatically around the fake Horcrux, but in spite of everything, in spite of the dark and twisting path he saw stretching ahead for himself, in spite of the final meeting with Voldemort he knew must come, whether in a month, in a year, or in ten, he felt his heart lift at the thought that there was still one last golden day of peace left to enjoy with Ron and Hermione.

Q7 - How’d you like this book?

Q8 - What is in store for the group in the future?

Q9 - Rank the books so far?

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[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we could just like I just like it's like a minute long

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I was sitting thinking about

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_03]: My theory about how they've been in the cave

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[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Before it's two minutes long. It's all right play it

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So if double the red one I came before he could have drank some of the potion

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Realized oh this is gonna come in stop left

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_03]: gotten Snape

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_03]: said hey, I got to drink this potion to destroy more Voldemort because he trust Snape and

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Then Snape and Dumbledore go down

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And they like prepare an anando whatever they got to do they could take multiple trips they could figure out what the last ultimate

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Like cure for the poison potion is and then

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_03]: He could just go on the snap

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And then

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Just not had to die because Snape could immediately give him the anando and then they could have the whole crux and just walk out together because

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It doubled or trusted Snape that much

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Why didn't you do that?

[00:02:27] Or

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_03]: How do you do that?

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_03]: He could just go

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_03]: He could just stay and he doesn't want to

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good point. I don't know why I was Snape isn't gonna destroy more crux like how far does

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Dumbledore actually trust him because

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody in the hospital wing right now is like

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Like you just do define somebody like in Luna

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_03]: What was that?

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Outside his office and sorry I'm eating pretzel because I'm

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like stress eating

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_03]: But he's stupidified or killed somebody who ever came to give him the

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Information to join the the fight. Yeah, so I'm I'm not gonna get through more of this but

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Not only point because that really kind of like

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Desperate because why would he choose Harry over choosing Snape?

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I was there was a rift in his trust me. Great question

[00:03:25] And don't

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And also

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah because at that point I didn't even know that Snape was gonna get in a fight with Harry or anything

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_03]: So the only thing I had to go off of was him like

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Superfine that person in the order or whatever he did that person

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I'm like if he went down there why would he not just

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Take Snape with him to make the potion?

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you can trust someone so I'll bolster your argument a little bit and then tear it down

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Same time

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you can trust someone like you can trust a drug addict, but you don't want to like lead them around drugs. You know it's the same thing with Snape

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You can trust him almost fully in

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Certain tasks that you've given him

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: But you might not want to lead him into a cave with a hork crux or even

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think a Snape knows what hork crux is R?

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. I was gonna ask you that whenever you finished it thought yeah because this seems like a

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Right now the perception that you have isn't not a lot of people know about hork cruxists. Yeah like

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Potentially the professors know a little bit they don't really know like the extensive it

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So Dumbledore

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: What he seems to be doing in the cave right now

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: for our understanding is passing down to Harry the knowledge

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Of what Lord Voldemort is up to and he's passing it down like through this experience that they have

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Harry because he's the chosen one he has to take him

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: He has to take him here

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Snape's not the chosen one and so I think it necessitates that Harry is the one that defeats Voldemort and not Snape even though

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Snape would probably be the more worthy person or not more worthy

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But the more logical option to take if you fully trust in him

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So Dumbledore has some stock in the prophecy at least

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_03]: He believes that the sum extent I think Dumbledore should try to live as long as he can though

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_03]: That's why I was like confused that he wouldn't take Snape even if it's for the sake of like

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Harry's learning experience because they can just do that on the next one, you know

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_01]: True, but they don't know where the next one is and it's not at the end of the school year Harry like Voldemort's gaining power

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Harry has to be equipped

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Now with the knowledge of how to defeat the people Voldemort if they delay or wait for another one

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't know when another one could come like they're adamantly searching for one by Harry needs to know now

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe the plan for Dumbledore was you split up and you go in that direction and look for Horcruxes all split up and go in this direction

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll meet you know in the middle whenever we find one will pair together

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That was probably the plan of Dumbledore but it didn't work obviously

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_03]: my

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_03]: crazy thought in all this because I was I kept trying to find ways that Dumbledore wouldn't be dead

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I was in denial for the last moment

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_03]: But I was like what if

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Dumbledore went to Snape and was like look I think we have I have to die to get this Horcrux and then Snape is like well

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Can't really have to kill you to

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Why can't you like he's so his unbreakable vow with mouth-boy and then they were like perfect

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I have to die and you have to kill me so then they like created this whole scheme of like

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_03]: That's dark. I know it don't I don't like that

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_03]: But that doesn't make sense because

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know cuz now Snape I feel like has no choice but to

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_03]: be stuck with

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_03]: the death eaters yeah and same with mouth-boy like I don't expect mouth-boy to come back to school

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's just gonna be like a death eater now. Yeah, but

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you're arguing I mean I your argument against yourself as a compelling one

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't Dumbledore take Snape does he really trust Snape?

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Is there some larger plug going on that you just don't know?

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that those are the questions so

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean maybe the argument is that he that helps prove the point that he's never been there before

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't really know what he's gonna name himself into

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That could be like the easiest

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Answer to the argument. He maybe he should have taken Snape but he didn't think it was gonna be that severe serious or that

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like severe so he didn't bring Severus severe

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: He just took Harry with him cuz he thought like okay I need to compare the knowledge

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, it's task won't be crazy

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe he just never really capable that solves a lot of your problem. Be crazy

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the dark lord. I know for sure, but how what we don't know and it like okay so the ring

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't seem like the ring was difficult to get the ring seemed to put a curse on him. The lock it

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, also it's not even a lock it. I was like flabbergasted

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's the other thing those those initials are a V yeah

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't know who that is. I don't know. I was trying to think of like everybody I know what those initials

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Um and then I thought maybe it's three people

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And it was like the first iteration of the order of the Phoenix

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, but I don't know cuz everybody I can think of is not

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like there's one initial because I'm like the bones is oh

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I like that booty guy. Okay, we're ruthless

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: The scrumdure

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Um

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Regulus

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting, but then I was like could be like regulus

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Alistair and like somebody else in the bones girl and they could be like a trio. I don't know

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like that person maybe died already

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Which person died the person who wrote that letter because you in the letter it was like I'm gonna be long gone

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So he expected himself to die

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we'll talk about that a bit but give me a quick summary before we do this of chapter 28

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we're not even close to that one yet. So after 28 is the flight of the prince

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So this is when

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Harry fights Snape and the death eaters in Hogwarts and then

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_03]: They find demolished body

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, also like Hagrid is getting attacked to but he's fine and then in

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Like by dumbledore there's the locket but inside the locket. There's just letter that's like I already took the horror crux

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_03]: He's sitting

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: He's give a little bark

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, they find a note in the locket which is all right. I still in the real horror crux and tend to destroy it as soon as I can

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I faced death in the hope that when you

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_03]: See your match you will

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Be mortal once more

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_03]: So he's like preparing the way for

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Harry I guess so do you think that dumbledore died for nothing?

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Suck

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Revelation after is crushing yeah that's on the next page dumbledore had weakened himself at drinking that terrible potion for nothing

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like no

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like almost maybe not almost for us, but it's like kind of close to it where

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: When's your a serious dies

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Harry finds the mirror or you could like communicate with him

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_01]: This is like almost the same where they went through all this and it was literally for nothing for wasn't even for a horror crux

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody I already found it. Do you think the horror crux is destroyed?

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that person succeeded in trying to destroy the horror crux?

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Or those people

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna say no

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's probably really hard to destroy the horror crux. Okay, how do you destroy the horror crux?

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know smash it

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: A magical knife

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You sound like gimme at the

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Fellowship of the Rings where he tries to smash the ring with you

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody's got to

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I also kind of wonder if it has like any allure to keep in it like the ring

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Or like you don't want to destroy it. Yeah, but I

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure maybe they all have to be destroyed in the same way and there's like a certain

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Potion you have to put it in or like

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Chuck it in like a cave with the dragon or something and like that's how they die. Yeah, but I don't know

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So I feel like you can't just take an axe to it and be that yeah

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It seems like you have to destroy it in some very like curse it maybe you have to a monocodobro

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean because think about it the the ring wasn't destroyed till

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Later on in the books

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_01]: When Harry found out the the ring was destroyed. Yeah, so it's like dumb with or had had difficulty trying to figure it

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_03]: But it was like crack right yeah, it's crack but but it was still in a hole. Yeah, yeah, so I couldn't quite figure it out

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you have to put it in a love potion

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Just can't exist together

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Dang I thought she kind of fascinated me there. Yeah, I wonder like what a wrap sheet of things would be to kill her presses

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you what do you think of Snape?

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm so mad at sleep right I hate sleep now right

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Snape move means the anger phase

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Processing

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Cuz yeah, it was just like so pissed at him like I don't understand what's happening

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_03]: But now it feels like he's totally gone and all of my like far-fetched theories of like oh

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I can make this work somehow in the plan and double doors fine

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's no way I feel like that because they just seem to do a resentment like when you even when he was like fighting Harry

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_01]: He seemed like he wanted nothing to he was like doing it lazily and like

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know yeah yelling at him to not calm coward and

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like if he was still good he would like have some moment of sympathy and there it even just be like

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I contact and I contact and just you have like a little knowing moment of like look

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I just I have to do this and then like run away, but it was literally like fighting him

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_03]: No, both more has to take them and then gone

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you've gotten that before in her writing where the she sneaks little things in but this one you have nothing

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's just Snape is just furious and he's furiously running away and and he's like

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Making fun of Harry too and you know and then it's everything which I hate at that part is just gross. I feel like that's very

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Like younger sibling core. That was like fighting with your older siblings and they're like barely putting any effort into it

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know and you're just like stuff like give me a chance

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_03]: You fight you

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Holding your head

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Just like sitting on you all you can't do anything exactly

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that he's actually a good wizard though like even though he's evil even though we hate him?

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think you skilled yeah for sure

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's probably one of the more powerful wizards. Yeah, especially

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Like in his practical magic but then also because of his

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Aquaman scene legillum and sea skills it's like an extra level that

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Even like the best wizards don't have yeah that compares to him so

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like a double edge

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Wand

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You have a double as one do I like that

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if I finish passing into point because like

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not only can do skilled magic but he's got he's like a very versatile wizard

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: He's good with potions. He's good with the Aquaman scene. You go to like shutting his mind off and and uh going into people's minds

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_01]: He's good like everything kind of good at fence against it. Our car is he's teaching right now

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Good at non verbal spells and like even how he's fighting Harry like it says he's like flicking his wand away

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Like laziness like he's like almost bored of Harry because he's like not even a challenge to him

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So really elevates how good Snape is that what he does

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Which makes you even angrier than he didn't save down will door because he could have if you wanted to

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like infuriating

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was a cool spell though when it was like the whip that was kind of like fire or something

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_03]: That was so cool not that I don't like that it's easy to get scary

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_03]: But I was like okay

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what he's doing

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So R.A.B. could be potentially three people or three families or

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_01]: One person or could it be multiple people?

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, all of the above

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know I didn't really like spend too much time thinking about who it was

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that we've come across that this person before?

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like we have to but at the same time

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like if we did

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: She wouldn't have put the initials there because that's so obvious

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't know how much it's like dumb

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like I don't remember all the little side mentioned people yeah

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_01]: It could just yeah, it could have just been like a quick side mentioned of a person or like yeah, they're right

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Are there gonna be like this person was like sweeping the corner of the hot set

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Like how did you not notice though?

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, double door in your mind officially dead

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly when the

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_03]: In like the last chapter

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_03]: When the fire like created the coffin I was like he's coming back

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna show up

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, it's right

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Rises from the fire but no he's gone. Yeah, he's dead

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Very sad my point or I mean your point

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you potentially made a heart crux?

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't see why not so if you did is he coming back?

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Um

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't I guess if you had a heart crux, why would you not come back but I don't feel like he's going to the

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Acre now do you think that dumbbells or would have made a heart crux maybe that's the better question

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe in his like younger days like he was a bad. Oh, okay wizard

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_03]: He had a little transfer me

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_03]: But now you just have a war crux or ever because you can't or can you destroy your own

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Horcrux is that like super dark magic?

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: How do you think you'd destroy your own heart crux? How do you think uh

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like eat the object

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: How do you how do you make a heart crux?

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't think that was ever explained to me. It's not fully explained it's explained in some part

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_03]: You have to murder somebody. Yeah, you have to murder someone

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_03]: So that still is like no ties to the process yeah

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That's just like yeah, and then there's a process mind that yeah, yeah, so we don't know the process behind it

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe have to like make a potion with their blood or something? Yeah, it's gross

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Or like put their blood in your body like you're in there. I don't know

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I am just gonna say magic

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_03]: That's how everything happens

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Just explain it to me

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I try to figure

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think if you're a really good potions master you could drink it and then like figure out what's in it

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Because you don't have to drink all of it. You can have a sip and then leave

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you could

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And a weird way to when I was reading that and again, you read something in a little different way than I do when I was reading that

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like you're when you when you drink that potion you're almost bound to do that

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a slight difference in the movie when he drinks the potion

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Immediately he feels horrendous pain if it's not it's not like a slow ramp up

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: In the in the books. It's like a slow ramp up so maybe you could drink like a sip and then like leave and like you know

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Regurgitate it and like dissect it. You don't know like figure out the chemical compound of that and like yeah, I know how to like overcome it

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know my reading is like when you started drinking that you had to see it to completion

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: There was no like drinking yeah, it's like you accept your faith. Yeah, it was like

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Like maybe like a slow ticker like as soon as you start drinking it you have an hour on the clock

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_03]: How do we know that was there for the first person and that RAB didn't fill that up

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Trying to kill the next person to get all the glory. That's a great question did RAB actually fill up the the thing with that

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I could have because as soon as I realized somebody else had been there I was like okay, so the magic does have to be undone every time you

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, yeah, but then

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm assuming like something was in the

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_03]: The bowl thing was that a pencil? No

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever it was it was just like a basin. I'm assuming it had something in it, but I don't necessarily believe that it's the same thing

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that was there after all right be put at there interesting okay

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm also like refills

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Where would it refill do you think?

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I guess here's the question if

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It has to be done with another person like I do you like let's let's just kind of assume that it's an impossibility to do it do on your own

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I want to point dumbledore like falls over and her yes, like good

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: That beats and then come back and give it to him. It'd be pretty difficulty done here maybe maybe like dumbledore really could have done it

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But there's not a ton of wizards out there who can do that on the right

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_03]: He also is like really old too. Yeah, so maybe a young wiper snapper. Yeah, that's kind of true

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I do it. Yeah, that's very true

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_01]: but

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: if RAB

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Went and got it who did he take?

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know who RAB is so how do I know he's taking

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: He's taking snape the potions mask guys. Okay, interesting when Voldemort goes

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: To go check up on his work rocks

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Does he take another person with him?

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_03]: What a Voldemort took RAB and then RAB is like

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Because who else even knows about work rixes that is

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Snape like snake knows right yeah, but why does snake know?

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Did he just learn do all the dead be this?

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't know. I feel like not

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he does yeah

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm changing my mind like by the second

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So here's another interesting and a pretty disturbing point that it's like a small mention in this book in the cave chapter

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You kind of glance over it

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Harry's power didn't really get recognized because he was out of a child so when they were going into the boat

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like a boat really made for one person but Dumbledore was like it's okay, Harry you're a kid

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not even a recognize so

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The cave is essentially designed that it wanted to let wizard as supposed to go over

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's Voldemort

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the cave that he torched her kids in

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So is he making the thing where like you bring a kid in the torch her kid and then you get the potion

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_03]: He also needs blood to get in there

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Does Voldemort have blood and his snake full yeah, he has Harry's blood in him

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Which is wild that's true

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_03]: That's disgusting. I hate that

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like taking a kid with him and then just cutting them like smearing them against the wall

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's pretty gross right yeah

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Ew

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I can't

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_01]: On to the next chapter of the Phoenix limit

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Give me a quick summary of the Phoenix limits

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Hagrid takes Harry up to the castle or Hogwarts and then

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_03]: They all go to the hospital wing and its tongues and loopen

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and up like falling love or I don't know they hash it out and then bill and flare

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Who will are still getting married

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it's the weaselies

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Hermione Ron everybody's there

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And they just kind of it's kind of like an information dump in a way

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like an information processing

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, because I don't think we really learn anything new you get are you learning like the order side of the story yeah, but

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no real new information that comes to the chapter. Yeah, they're all just working through what happened and then

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like wrestling through the the pain of you know grief and

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, you're like too deep in his head right now

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So sad these are so depressing I know

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You're like a sad it's a sad check of chapters

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and then he talks in McGonagall yeah

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Or doesn't talk to McGonagall

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess that's one of the first questions I have for the first chapter should here be telling more people about heart crisis

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so why

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Cuz don't there said not to say anything about what is normal though now

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Whoa

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_01]: He's done both wrong about that

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_03]: About not telling people yeah, I don't know I actually wasn't questioning double door for once

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And now you're questioning him

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_03]: This is confusing I think I

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Feel like the last people you tell

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_03]: There's less danger in that

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Because there's less spotlight nobody's gonna be talking about it. Yeah, sure

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't feel like going and telling the world oh there's horror crux is everywhere

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that's really gonna be that beneficial to him

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And the people that are gonna protect him are gonna protect him whether or not they know what he's doing

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It is hairy being shortsy divided by not telling someone like like my nerve and mechanical

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But what she gonna do?

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_01]: What she not gonna do like she's I feel like she's one of the people that you should maybe tell

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like she can like I

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Mean if you have mechanical that's like a body guard or like she can work out clues

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Heck of a lot better than I think all three of them good, but he can just go with a question and not be like hey

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm walking into Voldemort's layer

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Gonna go kill more cruxes because I feel like she would not

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Support that decision especially now that she's Hogwarts headmaster. Yeah very chill

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Her responsibility should be to the students well is she that yeah

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Is she okay while the question

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think is gonna happen?

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_01]: What is hairy say that in this book?

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Is he coming back or not?

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_01]: No, he's not going back so it's Hogwarts gonna be the same it's Hogwarts gonna be run by McGonagol and it's gonna be very safe

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Or just Voldemort gonna infiltrate Hogwarts

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's is Hogwarts gonna be run by

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Pure buzz

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll we gotta go be dead by the next book

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yikes

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_03]: What I hope not. I don't know I was really surprised that

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Harry was like I'm not coming back to school

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_03]: That I was like flabbergasted. What are you gonna do?

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's just gonna go Trump for the woods like I don't even know where these things are

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think McGonagol is going to run Hogwarts, but I think it's gonna be different

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, um

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's gonna be as good. I feel like she's gonna be very restrictive

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's not as like as much of a free thinker as normal Doris

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think there's gonna be a lot less students which is gonna be weird

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_03]: So I feel like the education wouldn't be as good like maybe

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_03]: They just kind of all start slacking and it's like we're just here because that's what we do and then

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_03]: They are all preoccupied with like

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Bigger things because I feel like now everyone has a personal reason to hate

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Voldemort he's not like an arbitrary bad guy. He's like you killed Dumbledore

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But I also remember like the ministry has fallen. I remember that line, but I don't know of the ministry like

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Takes over Hogwarts because they did then the past yeah, but

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like without umbridge. They maybe wouldn't do that or like the new minister seems better

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he doesn't seem better

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_01]: mildly yeah

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: mildly very mildly

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even remember what you asked me

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, anyway, Harry's there is experience gonna lot of grief here

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: All of them are kind of experiencing a lot of grief

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_01]: What there's good moments of pop up in all this?

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You kind of like learn about

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Tonks and loopen and

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Bill and floor

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But there's yeah, there's not like a ton of info on this. It's just kind of like they're all together and they're rehashing a few things

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I do love floor in this moment though

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I love floor right now

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_03]: She's like what you don't think he's gonna want me anymore

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she knows he's like I'm a babe

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_03]: What does she say she's like I'm pretty enough for both of us?

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it. I'm good looking enough for both of us I think

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_03]: That was like the redemption moment of I remember you asking me what I thought about her and I was like

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really think there's a reason like not to like yeah, but now I'm like okay. I like her. Yeah, for sure. She's good

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, then moment definitely wins you over. She's just great

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and loopen

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know this is like really interesting

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like I don't know everyone's bringing up valid points about their relationship

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And then also I just thought this was so funny because

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Usually girls die their hair after a breakup

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_03]: But like tongs is reverse it. I was just laughing think about that

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't know I think like loopen really loves her

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he was like wanting what's best for her even if that's not himself. Yeah, and that's like a big sign

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_03]: but I don't know

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You can be sure them to go together

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like if tongs has like been in other relationships before him and it's not due to the fact that there's like a nation-wide crisis

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And her cousin just died. Yep. I don't know. I feel like it's one of those things that you can't really judge from the outside unless like you know the people

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_03]: But boring we can judge her on the outside

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a wearable yeah, that happens every single month

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that like morally incorrect for him to like have a child?

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a great question. Wait, and we see a wearable of has a baby is that a wearable baby or they have to be been

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_01]: There's not enough studies on it in the wizarding world that you know it's a fear for sure

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if they have a kid I'm sure loopen it's gonna be terrified that that kid is gonna have like empathy and end up just like him

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Wouldn't it be like less wouldn't it be kind of like a bill wearable? It might be maybe it's like yeah, you just like raw meat, you know

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It might just be like something stupid

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting so

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you like them together to you? I don't know

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I talked to someone I talked to a land about this and she had a really good take on it

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think loopen would have eventually gotten there but I don't think it was a right time for it

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I think both of them need to process through what they're doing honestly. I think loopen was kind of bullied into it

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Bye

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone here

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't like the fact that everyone who was happening yeah, because like you talking to everyone else

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that person so it's like an external decision that he's making

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Rather than having like

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you. I think that loopen truly does love her

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Right now in loopen's mind he's trying to figure out certain things to maybe arrive at that goal of like maybe

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I can be with talks one of these days but right now it's just not the right moment and it's like you know

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it's so cliche to say that's like not the right timing, but for him it's like legitimately not the right timing, you know

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Because even when he was like oh I'm poor

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Like you can just take a year or two and work on that

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what you need to but yeah because if they're like a million times you know this conversation

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I was kind of imagining the situation like they I guess they've known each other like

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_03]: For a few years at least but I was like trying to figure out how this happened. I was like maybe they just started flirting

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And then it was like oh, they just like got you know involved in it's like oh, it's on a joke anymore

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but then loopen still like

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Like loopen's really down bad but then feels weird about it and talks is like it's fine

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: In my face on like that yeah mine was always like I think I almost thought the reverse or like talks falls bad for him and

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_01]: He really likes her but he knows like the

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_01]: The age difference is like a thing that they gotta work through too

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's just fascinating to me because talks is very wise for her age

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think loopen is one of the wisest characters that we get in the series so I'm like loopen seriously knows

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he really knows what he's talking about

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like his all his fears are legitimate for years and I think both of them need to work through that

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they got to like couple therapy before they get a relationship and figure that if it's actually gonna work out or not, you know

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_03]: They also could die at any moment agreed either agreed. Yeah, which is another valve. Yeah, that would be brought up and

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Loopen's got to face some of his inner demons before he actually gets an relationship like I just don't think he's in a right place to get an relationship

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_01]: so

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_01]: like

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: If if I'm in your position right now and I'm looking at what's gonna happen in the relationship

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it would crash and burn in the first few months because loopen doesn't loopen has these unresolved issues that he needs to figure out

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Tongues I love Tongues. She's maybe my most of my top three characters in this book

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think she's going into this without

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_01]: really insurely listening to what the problems are

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I think loopen is trying to bring up some serious things here and everyone's just like waving at biving like

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's war us just get married. Oh, yeah

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Young men don't always remain holy and they keep saying these stupid things without legitimately listening to what loopen is saying

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean like it's a fair point

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But we need to work through these things in that way. Like they're not really helping him

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Process through these things are like they're just coming up with they're just like oh, you know, why does well just do it

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And he might be out there biding people and like knowing that he's doing that and not telling that's anybody

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Like oh, I could actually like kill her. Yes, yeah, and so but I feel like they've been like

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know a thing for a while like this to me felt like they were deciding to get married

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it felt so absolute interesting

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_03]: It didn't feel like oh like just get it out there that you like each other. It was like we've already had this conversation a million times and it's like

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Cuz flare up was saying oh

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm still married him like I don't care that he's a werewolf and then talk to his like see

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I'm saying and then loopen was like no

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm like if you're gonna start like talking like you're gonna get engaged. That's like way more

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's kind of trash like this is too much doubt

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I know

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a way too much down on this I completely agree but I don't like how like the weaselys were just like in on it too

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't like that he was cornered again if loopen if you give honestly like if you give loopen another like

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Not a few months but

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_01]: How did I just don't know if it's the right time for it like dudes got enough of honest play. I'm like after the war

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the time for it or after living with wearables like that you get out of that get out of that situation first

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cuz it's actually it's like a drug dealer living with drug dealers right now

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That's good. Let's marry each other

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And we got out of this situation before we know we get married. Yeah

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Holy agree. I feel like they've painted him out to seem really really old from the beginning too cuz I thought he was like 50

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_03]: No, because on the train at the beginning they're like this old-looking old man and cloak in the corner

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's cuz he was becoming a werewolf. Yeah, but it's the stress that has probably like ages face

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that he looks older than he really is so their age difference is really like I think 12 years

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Like 11 10 12 years

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I don't know. I think talk to his mature. I think loopen is very mature and wise or as

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Resage

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. I think you probably could have come to this conclusion on his own but I think that this thing is they're cornering him

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're kind of just made a couple years. Yeah, I know seriously honestly I don't like

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Probably has a lot of life experience though being or agree. Yeah

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I think it could work but again

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean we can't choose these things in the outside. I know seriously

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_01]: What is sit down at them? A couple's there. What does he look like in the wall?

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a music-a-d Look-and-Dude in the movie. He's

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a good-looking dude in the in the illustrated version

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We got to find a picture of him. Yeah, he's actually like pretty pretty stunning stunning dude

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_03]: We try to find it right now actually a stunning dude

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_03]: What does talk like in the movie?

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Just cute

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually looping is a little bit more gaunt than I remember him in the gym cave version but I'm gonna send this to you

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_03]: gaunt

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_03]: House of gaunt

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Tons is kind of like uh not like bubbly like clumsy like just kind of like cute

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that maybe is also part of the issue is like they play into tongs is

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Like child like this in that way and then they play until loopens

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Eagerness. Yeah agreed yeah, but

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, I just send it to you

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's kind of a good look-and-Dude. It's got like that old scholar kind of vibe to him

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's so interesting

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_03]: That is not what I thought I don't know what do you think?

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know like round

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Round like kind of like ball

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, so you thought he was like a hideous old guy

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Not wait not bald

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to like actually envision what I think it's like I definitely like overweight

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Really, yeah, but he's so weird wolf

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what that looks like. I feel like he'd be super gaunt

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he'd be like weirdly skinny

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I've never seen a werewolf

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_03]: The moon behind him

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I also just like mentally

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Age him up like crazy in my mind because that seemed really old but

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Thompson like adds some extra wrinkles on to her appearance too. So they like look closer in age I guess

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_03]: They're like there's like people in their studies are like still in their prime though

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like yeah, I agree that like mentally I need to I feel like they're you know

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, I think

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think loopens kind of like in his prime

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just gonna look up the actor loopen and see

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, loopen for the movie is like he's a pretty famous actor

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Ew what that is not correct

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Val

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Thueless David Thueless

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm just gonna google tongs you what

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you watching?

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_03]: What in the world

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Ew

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it really not how you picture what was your oh, it's a picture of tongs

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Tongs looks like a man in here look

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think the movie is a great depiction of her if I'm being play honest

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I definitely have something different ahead. It's crazy and loopen looks like

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_03]: How I would picture Peter Pettacrew

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The little monster

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a little I think loopens a little like

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Two greasy in the yeah movies. He's a haircut

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say made him more like scholarly and professionally. Tongs look really old

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's kind of true

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how I picture her not with the mold that she's got going on in that picture

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I think just like a normal like

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_03]: thin

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Brunette like wavy hair

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Normal

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_03]: But then she's not even brunette. She's like how see brown hair

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It will she can transform her in anything she wants

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So she's a babe in my mind

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_01]: All right chapter 30 the white tomb

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_03]: That's literally like your loopens age though

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's I shouldn't say that that's like us

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_01]: We're yeah, kind of as

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_03]: 12

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, around 12 years

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy. That's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. I think that

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I have a yeah

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Chapter 30 the white tomb give me a quick summary of this one this is the funeral

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm and

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Dumbledore is actually dead

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the only information I hated how Hagrid like carried him down the aisle in like his little

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Clothing really that was so sad to me. Oh, yeah

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then they just kind of discuss like what's gonna happen in Hogwarts?

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like not much happens here like they're just closing the chapter that closing the book out

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just like a race up with Jenny which I was also shocked that it was like what but that's even when we're talking about before

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: They're pressuring a hair is making

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Like most generally hair is making good decisions

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess probably should break up with Jenny at this point. It's dangerous for the sake of Jenny safety

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and Jenny knows that it's noble and knows that it's right

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe because they're a little bit younger. They know they have time if like they last through this maybe like you know

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Tongues and and the loop and are like oh we don't have a lot of time. You know, I don't know some of the stupid like that

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: But Harry's doing it for good reasons

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I still feel like it was unnecessary

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I don't know because if you're so aware that Voldemort's gonna use Jenny it's like wouldn't you just

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Like defeat the purpose and I feel like Jenny's probably not gonna be in that much danger

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for sure because she's not gonna come with them

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm really agreed fully agreed

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean it would distract Harry too, so maybe it's like you know get it at a vet of his mind so he's not like constantly thinking about it

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But that was that was a little sad one because he was like

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with that line where he talks about it. I think he says like it's been like something out of someone else's dream

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Or someone else's life that was nice

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Like oh and she's like oh this is like something noble is it?

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I still don't understand like where's he gonna go like what is he gonna do? He's just gonna walk out the gates and

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Go

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Great question. He's gonna go to Godrix Hollow

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so he's gonna go to your Godrix Hollow

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's gotta do a few things before

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He starts a distract what are the things that he has to do before he starts go down a strike

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Is this like a creative question? No, no, we know two things that he has to do

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't will do a total of one thing and

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_03]: The weasley is told them another thing. I don't know he has to go to the wedding

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's one of them

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_03]: He's gonna go to the wedding at the burrow and he's going to

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yes, go back to the dirt's yes

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, go back to the dirt's leaves because that's where he's the most protected at the moment

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Still why just like refresh the magic

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember the beginning

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Dumbledore came and they had like the whole download of information

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And then there was like he needs to come back one more time because he's safe here

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's some kind of protection over the house that we don't really know what it is yet

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_01]: There's some kind of protection that hair needs to go confirm the last little bit's a protection like soak it up

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he's gonna go to the burrow at the wedding and then after that who knows?

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_03]: You got a charge up that same t-batter

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, yeah, because he's 17 right you have to go to your 18. Yep. Once is birthday

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_03]: August

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He it is October

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So July

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, 30

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_03]: July 30

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_00]: 31 sorry

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I always forgot that's my 30 at 30 first so

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess he's gonna go right there

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So much time. Yeah, and then like didn't he just say internally like he knew that he has to go back to where his parents were and then visit their graves

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what he wanted to do

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Just like a scavenger hunt like did Dumbledore prepare other things great question did Dumbledore prepare other things

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Harry asked this one thing where he sees Dumbledore's body and he's like I wish I asked him

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So many questions if we're dead

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Harry doesn't know what he's doing right now

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I don't understand is like the map is empty like there is no next step yeah, and Harry

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I think is like so dumb like I don't think he's gonna figure out where to go okay

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Unless he like drinks the lucky potion. It's like oh my heart's telling me that

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Not a bit idea honestly

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_03]: The work in the road

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So okay, so diaries destroyed

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, good this is exactly where my mind was going to rings destroyed. Yes

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Those two the lockets like we don't know where the lock it is the lockets MIA's with RAB if our babies dead or lie

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know where the lockets look like it is

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_03]: The snake is wherever old one snake is wherever old or this maybe this snake is still in that house and then he knows what the house is

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, because what does that house be near

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_03]: God is hollow was the house in God is all

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know I

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Think snakes are not the hard to kill so okay. I think that's probably next on the list all right this snake yeah interesting

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so there's four then we have

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_01]: The cup

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that kind of firm

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of a double they're seen to have confirmed that one the hoffle puff cup

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the hoffle cup yeah the hoffle cup

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, but that we don't have any idea where that no idea where that one is

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Didn't that girl have that though?

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_01]: What girl oh

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Seps above yeah, but he murdered her have submith and made the horror crux with the cup

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_03]: So then he went away and hit it somewhere we don't know where it is he bought the locket with the cup

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_01]: What is he just killed have submith and stole still both of them

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You die like you got two of them at once, no

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah the cup and a locket so maybe like the cup is gonna be near the locket okay because

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You know just like a shorter

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Be great

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know and then you think the sword maybe we don't know with the other another yeah the last little one is the sword is like in Hogwarts though, right?

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_03]: That seems well

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that's not crazy what that is in Hogwarts because that's why he would want to go back to Hogwarts

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, but

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Like when would he even get that there because like that came with the

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Founder yeah I came with a founder and here he's actually wielded that to kill

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_03]: A basilisk for maybe you have to use a horror crux to kill a horror crux

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's why like the thing in the diary interesting takes that as a fan wasn't the thing was a basilisk the thing wasn't the guinea

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_01]: The basilisk wasn't the same our obituary basket yeah, it was just a big big old basilisk

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I still like my theory that's an interesting theory but maybe in a guinea's a baby basilisk and like a transfers over the powers in some way

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's a good theory

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_03]: That was all of them yeah, I feel like he's gonna go for the snake first for some reason. Okay, I guess because that's just like at least

[00:50:52] Visible

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So they they don't have to go on a quest they they have some at least they know where the snake is it's by both of our own

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And he can parcel tongue that snake yeah for sure

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Right to

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But the best lead that they have right now is the locket and trying to figure out who are a bit our ABS

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe he goes back to his like parents and then he finds like

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know like you visit your hometown and you like find the old records of stuff behind the gravestone the snake was there all

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Try this like a little snake egg yeah, but yeah like you can just collect

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Information either from people that knew them or I don't know just like pick up a little bit to the information here

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Most people seem not to know about how he'll practice those so once again not sure how that's gonna help

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we'll find snake somewhere

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_03]: He can like and slave him into service. She's I don't know about that why was this is like way back, but this question I never I don't think I asked and

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Definitely didn't get an answer

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You said it with resentment

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_01]: What you like I definitely didn't get an answer because I didn't ask

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_03]: But when Snape made the unbreakable vow Peter predigory was just like chilling in the house with them

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which is really weird to me

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I was like

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Thinking back trying to figure out how this could all not be true about

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Snape feeling down with or I was like what if he impereous Snape and then somehow Snape is like not bound to the unbreakable vow

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Which doesn't solve anything because then he's just killing down with or out of spite

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_03]: But like the fact that Peter predigory was there and then Snape was just like oh

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_03]: He's just probably like listening at the door

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Like why is that been in your house?

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Did they just are they just like bound to each other like I don't know

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Because they're like the OGs

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they're besties

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they're

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Besties yeah, they're yeah, they're just work besties. I don't know

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Um

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, answer that question though

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Why is he really cute?

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he hasn't come up again. He's just in the stairwell thing when the cabinet and then that's it

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean all answers isn't some in some in some length

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He's just like a Peter predigory is kind of like a a weakling kind of like a secondary character

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Essentially has been assigned to Snape to help him with whatever Snape needs

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_03]: He's assigned by Voldemort yeah

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_03]: But that didn't happen in the book. I kind of did it. Yeah one

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_01]: In the beginning when they're together

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Snape says something along the lines of like Voldemort brought you here to assist me

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Because Snape says go get the elf made wine or go get the mold wine or whatever it is

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And pedigrees bum he's like I'm not your servant don't boss me around

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Snape says I'm under the impression that Voldemort sent you here to assist me and to help me

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So Voldemort sent pedigrees and put them to together

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_01]: To give them whatever like help them do whatever they need to do

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So it seems like Voldemort gave Snape task

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Not really sure what that one is yet

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Could be it could have happened in this book we don't really know any of the background behind what they were doing together

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Sounds weird but

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Your phone and love does Voldemort trust Peter pedigrees though? No

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_03]: But he's so weak like if he left I don't think much of a change. Yeah, yeah not much of a change for sure

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_01]: What Peter pedigrees two scared of leave?

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because he probably died instantly. Yeah

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_03]: See like why would you go servo?

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's ridiculous

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Why would he yeah? Why would you even put yourself through that it's ridiculous?

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a good line that we have

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And then without warning it swept over him the dreadful truth more completely and unnaturally than it had until now

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Dumbledore was dead

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He clutched the cold lock in his hands so tightly that it hurt

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But he could not prevent hot tear spilling from his eyes. He looked away from Jenny and the others and stared at over the lake

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Or the forest as a little man and black drone on

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_01]: There was movement along the trees the centers had come up to pay their respects too

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_01]: They did not move into the open by Harry saw and standing quite still half in the shadow watching the wizards

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_01]: They're bow is hanging at their sides

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And Harry remember the first nightmarish trip into the forest the first time he had ever encountered the thing that was

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That was one volt that was then Voldemort

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And how he had faced him now he and Dumbledore had discussed fighting a losing battle not long thereafter

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It was important Dumbledore said to fight and defy it again and to keep fighting for only then could evil be kept a bay they're never quite eradicated

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So we're your question, but will Harry actually win this fight?

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Voldemort will die at the end of the book

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And I guess that's winning the fight

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know because you can kill Voldemort, but you can't kill all the people that love

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_03]: The dark yeah

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's just keeping that bay. I feel like it's just

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody's always gonna come up. Yeah, for sure. It's like one villain dies

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, another one is gonna be the next one

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not so much like the ultimate sense like you're they're gonna lose this battle of Voldemort

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But you just keep fighting nonetheless

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like you know if they kill Voldemort someone else is gonna have pop up after him

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think at a Voldemort capacity though. Yeah, okay. I just think like a normal

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Like dark wizard will exist still be doing terrible things

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Racking havoc but I'd start gonna be like

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_03]: We're Voldemort's controlling dozens of people and like killing people at the time and then impacting the mugle world too

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Good point

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I like how Harry hangs on to the

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Fake war crux. Yeah, that's really cute to me

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I also like how he processes the grief differently in this book versus like for serious

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he keeps kind of smiling to himself and being like

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Sentimental about remembering kind of like the happy memories and the things he likes about the Voldemort

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_03]: But for serious. I feel like he was just like so suffocated by it and like nothing was happy

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think he's like no is how to grieve yet or like has made so much progress in that

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I think kind of just both things happen to him and he just lived on but it's definitely like a different

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's just like a different way of processing it for him right now. I think

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But maybe that's because he feels like he has this big charge and like this purpose going forward

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Where he has to be like the new dumbledore like he said

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Your powerful wizard like you can do this

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he was out destroying an office and serious died right now. He seems very

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Dossile he seems like he just wants to be alone most of the time

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Like with his own thoughts like on his doing his own thing

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, maybe he just like has stepped into a leadership role in a better way

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like as I he is purposely as a task

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He knows what he has to do so he's just gonna go do it and like that's how he's gonna honor the memory of dumbledore or something like that

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think yeah, when you have more purpose and someone's death like serious was a purposeless death

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Like what is coming after that but this one seems like okay. I know the task that dumbledore is assigned to me

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm gonna do this to honor his memory. Yeah, and he felt guilty for serious his death because it like wasn't necessarily

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_03]: necessary neither was dumbledores but dumbledore like did it himself

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_03]: so

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_03]: anyone and I also think

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_03]: That when dumbledore became

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_03]: a painting in the

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_03]: office I was like okay, he's gone

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's when you

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_03]: That's when it was just really different

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cuz there's like 20 things that really confirm his death and finally the portrait comes up you're like

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_03]: It was after that though because the portrait happens before the flame thing and the flame thing I was like oh

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that no no no he's gone

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I'm quite sad and I have to wait

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not long

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I would have been halfway done with the next book by now

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm so serious if I was not doing this for the podcast I would probably have I did a book in

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Like 30 hours

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Well figure out very fast by you can record really fast. So like legitimately we can do like you know

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Five chapters a day and you can breeze through at the summer and like a week

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_01]: People would love that little like short and abbreviated time of you just knocking out chapters

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_01]: When we just sit down

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_01]: There's like a marathon honestly yeah

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Marathon week we could do the last one is deathly hollows. Yeah, okay, so we're coming into deathly hollows

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So like the horror crux is is that what that's

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_03]: What is a hello

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great question. Well and this podcast with that question. What is that what is what is a deathly hollow?

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Halo pronounced incorrectly

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm deathly hollow that's different from a hollow

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Isn't like there's something with the headless horseman isn't that like something hollow?

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh sleepy hollow

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a sleepy hollow not hollow deathly hollows

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Halloween

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Halloween

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it like a ghost

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Halloween is the eve of all saints day

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Sort of mean they think in whatever language I want to say land but I'm like it's land

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So what does Hallows mean what's the root?

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm more than Latin root the spells

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean like agios is

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Greek for

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Like saint like or something like that and then I know it's somewhat similar in Latin

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like sanctus so is there something like for what for saint

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's but you've a Halloween is all saints day. Oh, you're tall though. Oh, mean yeah

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like the root is hollow like hollowed something is hollowed. Oh, like it's holy like revered like hailed. Yeah, probably

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm so lost

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So things are different these things are definitely revered

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_03]: The deathly hollows. I'm assuming that's just the horror crux is okay

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they're like weapons why are they definitely horror crux isn't deathly

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it hardly the same as deathly? The kill someone or deathly the deadly horror crux is versus the deathly hollows

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Different two very different things

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, maybe not true with they mean but they're not the same

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm just guessing more cruxes

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Right in Latin

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: All right well we'll see

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Give me oh I need to say line of the book

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So give me your favorite character in this entire book

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh and your hot to Molly this whole book

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: The whole book and if you have a favorite moment or like a favorite chapter

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like I should also just say the cave because I kind of remembered that too. Yeah, but like not really

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Incredible chapter

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_03]: um

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Ginny's hot to Molly for the whole book

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_03]: In excess of fun was such a

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was so funny

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_03]: What are my things again? I have to do hot to Molly a house yeah house cup who's the best character favorite character

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Harry Potter

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Typical

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You given it to you. No, he is the name say yeah. I'm given it to double the or for this book

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Dare I say Snape

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I know

[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Not hot to Molly energy right there a little abusive not to Molly energy but not into that

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah like even

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Like the mystery part of him being a haplot prince like he did have a really good development throughout the whole book

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah for sure in terms of house cup really well written character in this book

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good pick

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Did I miss was that all the is it?

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go crush it well

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks joining us on a journey of Harry Potter in the second time reader

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