Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince: Ch 1-4

[00:00:00] Welcome to the podcast. I'm Jon. I'm Lizzie. And this is Harry Potter and the Second Time Reader.

[00:00:06] Woo! Coming with book 6. Yeah! Exciting. Yeah, it's gonna be great.

[00:00:20] Before we jump in, I think I asked you this at the end of book 5, but give me a real quick ranking of the books.

[00:00:27] No, I hate this question. I was actually trying to, in the space between the last book and this book, reread like all of them and see if I could do that.

[00:00:36] But I can't do that. Wow. Just because I wanted like an actual ranking.

[00:00:39] But from, I reread one and I really liked the first one, honestly. It's so funny. Yeah, it's a good one.

[00:00:45] But, I don't know. I can't answer that. I passed. I'll do that later.

[00:00:51] Are you excited for book 6? Like... Yeah. Okay. I think it's gonna be good.

[00:00:56] All right. Beautiful. I think it's gonna be action-packed. I hope. I don't know. We'll see.

[00:01:03] Let's jump right into it and do the discussion because chapter 1 starts a little bit differently from how the rest of the books start.

[00:01:11] So, give me a quick summary of chapter 1, the other minister.

[00:01:15] So, basically you are in the prime minister's office.

[00:01:21] Uh-huh. And then the minister of magic comes in, which is Fudge.

[00:01:26] And then they like... You just learn about how they communicate with each other.

[00:01:31] And it's like very minimal information shared.

[00:01:34] Like only what's necessary to the human world.

[00:01:37] Yeah.

[00:01:38] And then the new minister of magic who is...

[00:01:43] What's his name?

[00:01:45] Scrimger.

[00:01:46] Scrimger.

[00:01:47] He comes in.

[00:01:49] And then they talk and then it's like, boom, he's gone.

[00:01:52] Yeah.

[00:01:53] So, I don't know.

[00:01:53] It's a good summary.

[00:01:54] He doesn't have time for the muggle prime minister at all.

[00:01:57] Yeah.

[00:01:57] But I feel like the muggle minister by the end of it was kind of just like, okay, I can deal with this.

[00:02:03] Yeah?

[00:02:04] Yeah.

[00:02:04] I think he got used to it.

[00:02:06] Yeah, I think he got used to them coming, but I think for this specific occurrence, I think he was more stressed out than he's ever been.

[00:02:12] Yeah.

[00:02:14] What are your impressions?

[00:02:16] Did you think Fudge was going to lose his job?

[00:02:20] I guess I didn't really think about it, but once I read that, it made sense to me.

[00:02:24] Yeah.

[00:02:25] But then I thought Dumbledore was going to be the next prime minister, but he's the chief warlock of the Wisingam.

[00:02:34] Yeah.

[00:02:34] There you go.

[00:02:35] Now.

[00:02:35] So I guess you can't be both of those things.

[00:02:37] I don't know which one's like a more, like a better position for him, but I guess it makes sense that.

[00:02:43] Why do you think that?

[00:02:44] Do you think that they would have offered it to Dumbledore and why wouldn't he have taken it?

[00:02:48] Well, who offers it in the first place?

[00:02:50] Is it like popular vote?

[00:02:52] That's a great question.

[00:02:53] Cause I thought the Wisingamut, is that how you say that?

[00:02:56] Wisingamut?

[00:02:57] The Wisingamut.

[00:02:57] You can say Wisingamut.

[00:02:59] The Wisingamut.

[00:03:00] The Wisingamut.

[00:03:00] I thought maybe they vote in the prime ministers.

[00:03:04] Maybe.

[00:03:05] That's actually a fascinating...

[00:03:06] A Congress-y type of thing.

[00:03:07] Yeah.

[00:03:08] But...

[00:03:10] It doesn't seem like it's by general election.

[00:03:12] There's debate on this and I forgot what the conclusion is for some of it, but there's

[00:03:18] in the Fantastic Beasts movies, there's an election for one of the ministers of magic,

[00:03:24] but it's not the British minister of magic.

[00:03:25] So, why the British don't have an election for their minister of magic baffles me.

[00:03:34] Um...

[00:03:34] Because they've...

[00:03:36] Even Dumbledore says they asked him to be minister.

[00:03:39] So it seems like it's just like a buddy's club.

[00:03:42] It's just like write whoever you want on a ballot.

[00:03:44] Yeah, for sure.

[00:03:45] It's like, oh, you got the most.

[00:03:47] Yeah, exactly.

[00:03:48] Um...

[00:03:49] Yeah, I don't know.

[00:03:51] Cause...

[00:03:52] Why do you say it's not popular vote?

[00:03:53] I thought most people liked this other guy.

[00:03:56] Well, it doesn't seem like people vote on it at all.

[00:03:58] It seems like they just installed the person who they think needs to lead.

[00:04:01] Oh, really?

[00:04:01] And I don't know who the who is either.

[00:04:03] Maybe there wasn't...

[00:04:04] To me, it felt like everybody liked this other guy.

[00:04:07] That's why they put him in.

[00:04:09] Yeah.

[00:04:09] Like the general public.

[00:04:10] For sure.

[00:04:10] So then I didn't know how that got from the public into like...

[00:04:13] Yeah, that's a great question.

[00:04:14] The ministry.

[00:04:15] Maybe there's like delegates or something like that from different areas and they all just

[00:04:18] kind of cast the votes however they need to.

[00:04:20] So...

[00:04:21] Um...

[00:04:21] But they definitely like Scrimgeour right now a little bit more than they like Fudge

[00:04:24] cause he seemed like a wartime...

[00:04:26] Yeah.

[00:04:27] Uh...

[00:04:27] President.

[00:04:29] Um...

[00:04:29] Or minister, obviously.

[00:04:32] So...

[00:04:34] Um...

[00:04:34] How did you like even just the introduction for this chapter?

[00:04:38] Like how this chapter is different from all the other ones?

[00:04:41] It doesn't start with Harry.

[00:04:42] It starts with like this other side story.

[00:04:44] The side quest.

[00:04:45] I feel like it's just showing like how big the story is because you don't need to just

[00:04:51] focus on Harry.

[00:04:51] It's like encompassing the whole world at this point.

[00:04:54] Hmm.

[00:04:55] So I feel like it zoomed out the lens and then it lets like the story grow from there

[00:05:00] because now like the whole world is involved.

[00:05:03] Yeah.

[00:05:03] So...

[00:05:03] I thought it was cool.

[00:05:05] Like it seems like it jumps right into the story as like the later books do.

[00:05:11] Like the previous two books do.

[00:05:13] Yeah.

[00:05:13] But it's not like a action pack type of beginning to me.

[00:05:18] Like the first four chapters.

[00:05:20] It's just like you're like stuff's happening and you're learning about the story but to

[00:05:24] me it's not like you know you're in the house and like oh...

[00:05:28] Yeah.

[00:05:28] Who's gonna get killed?

[00:05:29] What's this giant snake?

[00:05:31] It's like you're just setting the stage I still feel like.

[00:05:33] These four are definitely setting the stage.

[00:05:35] Yeah.

[00:05:35] But they're setting it in a really good way so I'm excited for later parts.

[00:05:38] Yeah.

[00:05:38] You probably know the answer to this question but there's a line that says Fudge took a

[00:05:41] great deep breath and said Prime Minister I am very sorry to have to tell you that he's

[00:05:46] back.

[00:05:46] He who must not be named is back.

[00:05:48] Yes alive said Fudge.

[00:05:50] That is I don't know.

[00:05:52] Is a man alive if he can't be killed?

[00:05:54] I don't really understand it.

[00:05:55] And Dumbledore won't explain it properly but anyway he's certainly got a body and is walking

[00:06:00] and talking and killing so I suppose for the purposes of our discussion yes.

[00:06:03] He's alive.

[00:06:05] Why won't Dumbledore explain it and what is he not explaining?

[00:06:11] I don't know what he's not explaining but I'm assuming he's not explaining everything to

[00:06:16] Fudge because either he knows Fudge is gonna get booted out or like he doesn't trust him.

[00:06:26] But I just think Fudge like doesn't get what's going on and he's not gonna be like a good

[00:06:31] ally so I feel like he's just trying to exclude him.

[00:06:35] Okay.

[00:06:36] But I don't think he's telling many people what's going on anyway.

[00:06:38] Yeah for sure.

[00:06:39] Do you think that Dumbledore's told anybody what's going on?

[00:06:43] No.

[00:06:44] Really?

[00:06:46] Yeah.

[00:06:46] Do you think he will tell anybody?

[00:06:48] Um I think he'll tell Harry more in this book hopefully.

[00:06:52] I mean he already does.

[00:06:54] I'll hit that later but yeah I feel like Dumbledore's gonna be start, he's gonna start

[00:07:00] talking more about his plans just because of what happened in the last book.

[00:07:05] I feel like he had a whole issue with that.

[00:07:09] Like not sharing enough information.

[00:07:12] Yeah.

[00:07:12] So I hope he shares more.

[00:07:14] But yeah I mean I feel like he just doesn't think Fudge is gonna be a good steward of that

[00:07:21] information.

[00:07:22] Yeah I agree.

[00:07:23] Cause like he obviously doesn't know what's happening.

[00:07:25] Like if someone told me that, he's like oh well he seems alive but like I don't know.

[00:07:29] Like that's not convincing to me.

[00:07:32] It's terrible I know.

[00:07:34] And Fudge is just not, like especially with last book he's not a trustworthy person so

[00:07:38] Yeah.

[00:07:38] Whatever Dumbledore is hiding, he's hiding it for good reason especially from Fudge.

[00:07:42] He's hiding it from other people, he's hiding it for different reasons maybe but Fudge is

[00:07:45] just not a person you trust or something like that.

[00:07:47] Yeah.

[00:07:50] How did Fudge get booted out though?

[00:07:52] Was that by popular vote?

[00:07:54] Or that's, did he resign?

[00:07:56] Again I don't.

[00:07:56] I don't think he'd resign.

[00:07:57] No he would never resign yeah.

[00:08:00] Maybe he would resign because he was getting pushed out.

[00:08:03] But it seemed like they, I think he said something like in this chapter like they were demanding

[00:08:08] that I be like released or like you know he couldn't stop the flow of people coming in and

[00:08:13] asking him to step down.

[00:08:15] After something like that happens in your career I think you just have to like you're forced

[00:08:18] to.

[00:08:18] There's no coming back from something like that.

[00:08:20] Yeah.

[00:08:21] So, um, yeah Fudge is just not, he was never really a good leader in my opinion.

[00:08:28] Did you think that, did you, yeah what did you think about Fudge?

[00:08:32] Did you think he had any like good qualities?

[00:08:36] I didn't think he was like bad necessarily until the, he reaches the point of like ignoring

[00:08:45] what Dumbledore is saying about Voldemort.

[00:08:46] Yeah.

[00:08:47] Like once he gets to that point then I'm like okay he's just like knowingly being ignorant

[00:08:52] I guess.

[00:08:53] Yeah for sure.

[00:08:53] It's kind of like oxymoron.

[00:08:55] But I don't know like in the first books he's just doing his thing like he's not really

[00:09:00] a big character but I don't like that he's denying the truth.

[00:09:06] Yeah.

[00:09:07] And yeah.

[00:09:08] Cause in the beginning he does seem like a neutral person and then all of a sudden he switches.

[00:09:11] Where like neutral people like you have neutral leaders and sometimes you're like,

[00:09:15] well you know whatever I don't like this person but I don't dislike them.

[00:09:17] They don't do any harm at least.

[00:09:19] They're not doing any good but they're not doing any harm.

[00:09:21] That's what he was I feel like for the first three-ish four books.

[00:09:24] Mm-hmm.

[00:09:24] And then all of a sudden he switches and then goes to the way of harm and you kind of hate

[00:09:30] him.

[00:09:30] I hated him in the last book.

[00:09:31] So when he's sacked in this one you're like good.

[00:09:34] Finally he's out.

[00:09:35] I feel like he would have a change of heart like if he was still the sitting prime minister

[00:09:40] at this point and like this book I feel like he would be better at fighting Voldemort.

[00:09:44] Hmm.

[00:09:45] But that's my opinion.

[00:09:47] Why do you say that?

[00:09:48] Cause it's like undeniable now.

[00:09:50] Like he is recognizing that Voldemort's back and Voldemort was in the ministry.

[00:09:55] So like there's no way he can keep denying it.

[00:09:58] Yeah.

[00:09:58] So right now there's like a big transition to power when really like let's just let Fudge

[00:10:02] deal with this.

[00:10:03] Not that he's going to deal with it well but at least he maybe knows the avenues for which

[00:10:06] to deal with it like and they kind of go quick.

[00:10:10] That's not a bad idea actually.

[00:10:11] Yeah.

[00:10:11] Like he'd have a change of heart.

[00:10:13] Yeah.

[00:10:13] But that's not what happens.

[00:10:15] And there's a point to it where like you know it's a prime minister doesn't I guess

[00:10:20] like prime minister or president.

[00:10:21] They don't do it.

[00:10:22] They do a lot but they don't necessarily do a ton.

[00:10:24] It's like public perception.

[00:10:25] Yeah.

[00:10:25] So if you have someone and they're like Fudge and he's like perceived to be a weak leader

[00:10:30] you like most public you just want someone who's strong and like has a good like you

[00:10:34] know face on and so that's why I think they just wanted scrimmage rather than Fudge.

[00:10:38] He just seemed like you know a stronger person than Fudge.

[00:10:41] Maybe they're making a wrong decision.

[00:10:42] Maybe Fudge is already primed for this job and they need to reinstate him and everything

[00:10:46] would go really well.

[00:10:48] Who knows?

[00:10:49] The more important question is I don't know if you're going to catch this but will you

[00:10:53] ever look at Myst the same way?

[00:10:55] Oh my gosh.

[00:10:56] No I will not.

[00:10:58] It's been changed and I noticed Myst every single day of my life that I see it.

[00:11:04] I came to that part of the book and I literally was like oh I hate this.

[00:11:08] You're like I don't want to walk in Myst anymore.

[00:11:11] Yeah.

[00:11:11] It just that was not a needed like piece of information I feel.

[00:11:16] You don't need that.

[00:11:18] It was a little gross little.

[00:11:20] But they didn't explain it at all either.

[00:11:22] Like they just threw it out there and I was like that's so funny.

[00:11:25] Yeah.

[00:11:25] I love that it was just like underwritten.

[00:11:27] It was just like oh yeah yeah that's why we have all this Myst because the Dementors are

[00:11:31] breeding you're like hold on.

[00:11:34] It's like is that what I what?

[00:11:35] What?

[00:11:36] This is disgusting.

[00:11:38] Yeah.

[00:11:39] Yep.

[00:11:40] There's not a ton of I mean we can talk about a few other things in chapter one but I want

[00:11:43] to talk about chapter two so chapter two is Spinner's End unless you had anything else

[00:11:47] in chapter one.

[00:11:48] Just keep going.

[00:11:49] All right chapter two Spinner's End give me a quick summary of this.

[00:11:53] So this is the chapter where Bellatrix and Narcissa go to Snape, go to Severus Snape, to

[00:12:04] talk about this mission that somebody that Jericho is like sent on but they don't say what that

[00:12:11] is and then they make this like promise with each other and there's like magic going around their

[00:12:18] hands.

[00:12:18] It feels like a wedding to me.

[00:12:19] Yeah.

[00:12:20] And then yeah I guess you just oh and Snape like has to defend himself against all these

[00:12:27] allegations of like why he's not.

[00:12:29] Yeah.

[00:12:30] Uh like a true servant of the Dark Lord but I think he has a good defense.

[00:12:36] I don't know.

[00:12:37] A little confused but it makes sense.

[00:12:40] You trust that he's what do you think of Snape now during this chapter?

[00:12:46] Well I'm like a hundred percent if I was Bellatrix I would be like very convinced.

[00:12:51] I was like that was a good description.

[00:12:53] He was standing on business like nothing.

[00:12:57] I would like I believed him but then in my heart I'm just like I think he's good like

[00:13:01] I think he's lying but he's lying excellently.

[00:13:04] So I like believe everything he's saying but I just don't think he's like I think he's

[00:13:07] lying.

[00:13:08] I don't does that make sense?

[00:13:09] Yeah.

[00:13:10] I'm just a very gullible person.

[00:13:14] Wait wait no that would make you not gullible.

[00:13:17] Oh I guess so.

[00:13:18] Cause if you believe what he's saying.

[00:13:20] So that I mean this is one of the weird chapters where like okay he seems like like a sketchy

[00:13:25] character but then if he's defending himself this well in front of Bellatrix.

[00:13:29] Is he that good of a liar or is he really just telling the truth?

[00:13:34] That's the question.

[00:13:36] I don't.

[00:13:37] I think he's still on the good side.

[00:13:42] But I just think he's a great liar and he's convinced Voldemort that he's on his side.

[00:13:49] Because I feel like I forget what the two points were but there was like two points where I was like I don't think that's true.

[00:13:56] Like when he was camping out at Hogwarts I was like he could have killed Harry Potter.

[00:14:04] And yeah she was like oh so you knew that like he was gonna need the blood to come back.

[00:14:08] Like how did you know Voldemort?

[00:14:10] You already said like you thought Voldemort was dead.

[00:14:12] Yeah.

[00:14:12] And then he was like I forget what he said but she had some good points too.

[00:14:16] So in your thoughts and opinions right now you think that Snape is fooling Voldemort rather than Dumbledore.

[00:14:26] Because he's fooling one of the two.

[00:14:27] Yeah.

[00:14:28] Okay.

[00:14:29] Interesting.

[00:14:30] He's also fooling the sisters.

[00:14:33] Yeah for sure.

[00:14:34] Those are I like them.

[00:14:35] They're cool.

[00:14:36] Narcissa and Bellatrix.

[00:14:38] You like them?

[00:14:39] I do.

[00:14:40] As soon as this started I was like yeah these are cool people.

[00:14:44] Interesting.

[00:14:45] They're like very sisterly like opposites in looks and then their actions are very opposite.

[00:14:50] I was just like this is a great like sister duo.

[00:14:52] Yeah for sure.

[00:14:53] But you know what Bellatrix did right?

[00:14:56] Bellatrix killed Sirius.

[00:14:58] Yeah your boy.

[00:14:59] I know.

[00:14:59] Your boyfriend.

[00:15:00] Go on.

[00:15:02] But you know I see the best in people.

[00:15:06] Second chances it's okay.

[00:15:09] I don't know.

[00:15:10] And they're like cousins too right?

[00:15:13] Yeah.

[00:15:13] Yeah.

[00:15:15] So.

[00:15:15] Cousin Bella.

[00:15:17] Cousin Bella.

[00:15:19] So.

[00:15:21] So.

[00:15:22] Generally Snape's answers are pretty satisfying to you.

[00:15:25] Yeah.

[00:15:26] Um.

[00:15:31] There's another point that they make in this whole discussion and uh.

[00:15:35] I want to talk about this point.

[00:15:36] There's this conversation and they say.

[00:15:38] You are avoiding my last question Snape.

[00:15:41] Harry Potter.

[00:15:43] You could have killed him at any point in the past five years.

[00:15:46] You have not done it.

[00:15:47] Why?

[00:15:48] Have you discussed this matter with the Dark Lord?

[00:15:51] Asked Snape.

[00:15:52] He.

[00:15:53] Lately we.

[00:15:53] I'm asking you Snape.

[00:15:56] If I had murdered Harry Potter the Dark Lord could not have used his blood to regenerate.

[00:16:00] Making him invincible.

[00:16:03] Do you think that the Dark Lord is invincible?

[00:16:06] By using Harry's blood?

[00:16:09] No.

[00:16:10] I think he's killable.

[00:16:12] Why?

[00:16:15] So it's Snape lying about this point.

[00:16:16] Because Harry's killable.

[00:16:17] And if Harry has the same thing.

[00:16:19] Like the same protection.

[00:16:21] Then Voldemort's killable.

[00:16:25] A side point on this.

[00:16:26] Is Harry killable?

[00:16:28] Yes.

[00:16:29] He's like almost died in every single book.

[00:16:32] Yeah.

[00:16:32] He's almost died in every single book.

[00:16:33] But has he?

[00:16:34] He has survived the killing curse.

[00:16:37] Only kid who has survived the killing curse.

[00:16:39] Is there no protection over him anymore?

[00:16:41] No.

[00:16:42] There's protection.

[00:16:43] But.

[00:16:44] Like I don't get that.

[00:16:46] Because.

[00:16:47] The protection.

[00:16:49] Is there.

[00:16:50] But he's still almost dying.

[00:16:53] But.

[00:16:54] I feel.

[00:16:54] Like I still think he could die.

[00:16:56] But I feel like the protection was in that moment.

[00:16:59] Yeah.

[00:16:59] It's like.

[00:16:59] Yeah.

[00:17:00] For sure.

[00:17:00] Yeah.

[00:17:02] I don't know.

[00:17:03] And Dumbledore said it leaves a mark.

[00:17:05] And you know.

[00:17:05] It resides in your very skin.

[00:17:07] So the protection still resides there.

[00:17:09] And to some degree.

[00:17:10] Like you're nailing it.

[00:17:11] Like for exactly what this is.

[00:17:12] He's like not invincible.

[00:17:14] He can die.

[00:17:15] But he still has the protection.

[00:17:16] There's all sorts of other like weird things at play here.

[00:17:18] But.

[00:17:19] You don't think by using Harry's blood.

[00:17:21] That that.

[00:17:21] Does Voldemort have the protection that Harry does?

[00:17:27] No.

[00:17:28] I don't know.

[00:17:29] Like I don't think so.

[00:17:30] I think it helped him grow.

[00:17:32] Up in the cauldron.

[00:17:34] Okay.

[00:17:35] That's in the movie right?

[00:17:36] Yeah.

[00:17:37] I can't wait to see that.

[00:17:38] Like that.

[00:17:40] I feel like that would happen with anybody's blood.

[00:17:44] But I think Voldemort thinks that's something to do with the prophecy.

[00:17:48] And then this whole love charm thing.

[00:17:52] So you say it's really of no importance that he uses Harry's blood.

[00:17:56] I don't think so.

[00:17:58] Okay.

[00:18:00] Okay.

[00:18:01] What about this other side little thing that they're doing?

[00:18:03] Not necessarily with blood, but this little oath that they're taking.

[00:18:05] What do you think about unbreakable vows?

[00:18:07] I want to know more about unbreakable vows actually.

[00:18:10] All right.

[00:18:10] Yeah.

[00:18:11] Cause that's like what happens if you break an unbreakable vow or can you break an unbreakable

[00:18:15] vow?

[00:18:16] That's a great question.

[00:18:17] Like why is it unbreakable?

[00:18:18] That's a great question.

[00:18:21] Answer it.

[00:18:21] I can't answer it yet.

[00:18:23] Yes, you can.

[00:18:24] What do you think happens if you break an unbreakable vow?

[00:18:26] I'm assuming death, but that seems dramatic.

[00:18:30] That's extreme.

[00:18:30] So I don't know like what aside from death.

[00:18:34] Maybe your hand turns black and shrivels.

[00:18:37] Whoa.

[00:18:38] So you think Dumbledore is broken on unbreakable vow?

[00:18:42] I think Dumbledore got zapped in the ministry, but I don't know.

[00:18:46] I could, I feel like some bodily harm would happen from breaking a unbreakable curse.

[00:18:51] Okay.

[00:18:53] I don't know.

[00:18:55] Um, what are they?

[00:18:59] So give me the contents of what they're promising to each other.

[00:19:03] Well, only Snape is promising things.

[00:19:07] Yeah.

[00:19:07] I feel like something should be promised from her part.

[00:19:10] But whatever.

[00:19:12] She's making him promise to protect Draco, to help Draco and to fulfill Draco's thing,

[00:19:20] like mission if he can't do it himself.

[00:19:24] So what is this thing that Draco has to do?

[00:19:27] I'm assuming that it's about killing Harry.

[00:19:32] Interesting.

[00:19:33] Okay.

[00:19:33] Like Draco's going to kill Harry.

[00:19:36] Then the Malfoys will have like honor again in the sight of Voldemort.

[00:19:41] Yeah.

[00:19:41] And then, um, it's just like a big, like buy Voldemort's love back type of deal.

[00:19:48] Fascinating.

[00:19:48] Okay.

[00:19:49] So I don't know why they would want Snape to do that instead though, because I feel like

[00:19:54] the girl, the sisters would be happy to kill Harry Potter by themselves, but maybe they're

[00:20:01] just, or Narcissus just scared that Draco's going to get killed in the process or get hurt

[00:20:05] because Harry's a powerful wizard.

[00:20:08] Mm-hmm.

[00:20:09] Um, and then the other thing I thought was it could be something to do with Grim Old

[00:20:12] Place because Harry is now the.

[00:20:16] Yeah.

[00:20:17] The owner of that place.

[00:20:18] The owner.

[00:20:18] Yeah.

[00:20:18] Yeah.

[00:20:19] So I was like, maybe, um, he has to like go find the headquarters and like, they're scared

[00:20:25] that like the order's still there.

[00:20:27] So like maybe Draco dies when he goes to like check out Grim Old Place.

[00:20:31] Dang.

[00:20:32] So I don't know, something like that.

[00:20:34] I like that.

[00:20:35] Good theories.

[00:20:36] That'd be fascinating.

[00:20:37] It's gonna be fun to see how this plays out.

[00:20:40] Um, okay, let's do, uh, anything else in this chapter?

[00:20:45] Um, why did Dumbledore send Snape back to the dark Lord?

[00:20:50] Cause he said that Dumbledore sent him and I was like, why would he do that?

[00:20:57] Yeah.

[00:20:57] That's a question you're asking for me that I am going to ask back to you.

[00:21:02] How about you just answer one question?

[00:21:03] You just know at this point that I am not answering your question.

[00:21:06] Sometimes I genuinely ask you a question and I forget that you can't answer it.

[00:21:10] I'm just like, what do you think?

[00:21:10] It's gonna be fun when we do Lord of the Rings cause we're gonna be able to have

[00:21:13] discussions.

[00:21:13] Yeah.

[00:21:13] Even though it's like, we probably both know how the plot's gonna go.

[00:21:16] It's gonna be different.

[00:21:17] It's gonna be fun.

[00:21:18] Um, but no, what do you think?

[00:21:23] Cause I feel like I just, I just don't get how that would be fun.

[00:21:26] I feel like I would fly for either of them.

[00:21:29] Like, yeah.

[00:21:33] Cause what reason would Dumbledore have to send him back?

[00:21:36] Because my little point was that if Dumbledore didn't even want Snape to teach

[00:21:42] defense against the dark arts cause he might be tempted to go back.

[00:21:45] Like, why would he literally send him in person back to Voldemort?

[00:21:50] Like that's a much bigger temptation than like mediocre beginner spells.

[00:21:56] So.

[00:21:57] Yep.

[00:21:57] Yep.

[00:21:57] Yep.

[00:21:58] Not sure.

[00:22:00] He could, uh, it could just be, he's playing like the double agent.

[00:22:04] Um, and he's playing it.

[00:22:05] You could be, you don't really see which side he's playing on, but he could be playing on

[00:22:09] either side for being the double agent on cause if he's going back in Dumbledore's orders,

[00:22:14] he's like, you know, trying to fool Dumbledore by just like, you know, obeying his orders.

[00:22:20] Maybe he really is.

[00:22:21] And he's part of Dumbledore's plan.

[00:22:24] I don't feel like that is satisfying.

[00:22:28] Yeah.

[00:22:29] Don't worry.

[00:22:30] I won't, I won't give you any satisfying answers until you actually read it.

[00:22:33] Okay.

[00:22:34] And why does like Narcissa call him Severus?

[00:22:37] And then Bellatrix calls him Snape.

[00:22:40] I think there's like a respect thing of those who actually like Snape call him Severus.

[00:22:45] And then people who don't like him just call him Snape.

[00:22:47] And then on top of that Harry Potter, why do I keep calling him Harry Potter?

[00:22:52] Harry just goes Snape and then Dumbledore's always saying Professor Snape Harry.

[00:22:58] So.

[00:22:59] So Dumbledore respects him and Harry doesn't.

[00:23:01] Yeah.

[00:23:02] Yeah, that's a great indication.

[00:23:03] Or Dumbledore just wants Harry to respect him.

[00:23:06] Ooh.

[00:23:06] Okay.

[00:23:06] It doesn't necessarily say that Dumbledore respects him.

[00:23:09] It's just a implied.

[00:23:12] That's a really fascinating point.

[00:23:13] I'm like, cause there's, there's some important lines that come up where someone,

[00:23:17] people call Snape something.

[00:23:20] They either call him Severus or they call him Snape.

[00:23:23] That's a really fascinating connection.

[00:23:24] Dumbledore does call him Severus, right?

[00:23:26] Yeah.

[00:23:26] Yeah.

[00:23:28] Cause yeah, I just noticed it between Narcissa and Bella cause they are like in the same boat,

[00:23:34] but Severus or.

[00:23:36] I mean, that's probably, do you have like a name that people call you that you, that you

[00:23:41] know they respect you?

[00:23:42] Like does the people use your full name?

[00:23:47] Um, I don't know.

[00:23:48] I have a lot of nicknames.

[00:23:49] I have nicknames from like individual people.

[00:23:52] Yeah, for sure.

[00:23:53] But.

[00:23:53] That's fun.

[00:23:54] If someone calls me Liz, I know they're like, not really like my friend, my friend,

[00:23:59] because everybody calls me Lizzy.

[00:24:00] Yeah.

[00:24:01] And like, I don't really like being called Liz, but a lot of people do cause they're just

[00:24:05] like kind of on the outskirts and I'm not going to be like, it's actually Lizzy.

[00:24:09] Um, it's actually.

[00:24:10] Yeah.

[00:24:11] And I feel like Liz is way more like professional sounding than Lizzy.

[00:24:15] Yeah.

[00:24:15] But at this point, whatever.

[00:24:17] You're at when you have a corporate job, you know, at some financial company.

[00:24:21] Uh, my name is Liz.

[00:24:23] Yeah.

[00:24:24] Not Lizzy.

[00:24:24] I'm gonna have to change my identity.

[00:24:26] But no, I mean, my name is spelled with an S and I'm actually very like.

[00:24:33] It's cool.

[00:24:34] I care that people pronounce it with an S, but nobody does.

[00:24:38] And like, I'll correct you if you say with a Z cause it sounds different.

[00:24:43] So.

[00:24:43] Say your name.

[00:24:44] Elizabeth.

[00:24:45] Yeah.

[00:24:45] Okay.

[00:24:46] Elizabeth.

[00:24:47] But like Lizzy.

[00:24:48] That's completely different.

[00:24:48] Lizzy is like Z's.

[00:24:49] I know.

[00:24:49] She didn't even call it Lissy.

[00:24:51] Lissy.

[00:24:51] I can't say Lissy.

[00:24:52] No, that's reserved for my grandfather.

[00:24:55] Aw.

[00:24:55] My grandpa.

[00:24:56] I, you, yeah, I think Liss is cool.

[00:24:59] If you said Liss, I like that.

[00:25:02] But nobody has ever.

[00:25:03] A Liss.

[00:25:04] I'm going to start calling you a Liss.

[00:25:05] A Liss.

[00:25:06] A Liss.

[00:25:08] I don't like that.

[00:25:09] All right.

[00:25:10] I won't call you that.

[00:25:10] It's Liss or Lizzy.

[00:25:12] I don't know.

[00:25:13] All right.

[00:25:14] What was the question?

[00:25:15] I don't remember.

[00:25:17] Because you were talking about Snape and Severus and people calling you different names.

[00:25:20] Oh, yeah.

[00:25:20] Like, oh yeah.

[00:25:21] No, if somebody calls me Liz, I know that they're like not, they don't really know me.

[00:25:24] There's like, yeah, there's like levels of like what people call you that you know.

[00:25:27] They respect you or they don't or they know you or they don't.

[00:25:30] Yeah.

[00:25:31] Agreed.

[00:25:32] All right.

[00:25:33] Chapter three.

[00:25:33] Will and Walt.

[00:25:38] What happens in chapter three?

[00:25:41] Oh, Dumbledore retrieves Harry from the Dursleys.

[00:25:46] Mm-hmm.

[00:25:47] And they go to Rufus's house.

[00:25:55] No.

[00:25:56] They go to the Dursleys and they're about to go to Slughorn.

[00:25:59] Oh, Slughorn.

[00:26:00] Yeah.

[00:26:02] Wait, Rufus is the minister, right?

[00:26:04] Rufus Scrimger is the minister.

[00:26:05] I gotta get my character straight.

[00:26:06] And Horace, Horace Slughorn.

[00:26:09] Horace Slughorn.

[00:26:10] Good memorable character names in this.

[00:26:12] That's a rough name.

[00:26:12] Yeah.

[00:26:13] So they don't even get out of the house in chapter three.

[00:26:19] Um.

[00:26:20] Yeah.

[00:26:21] And now Harry, let us step into the night and pursue that flighty Tentress adventure.

[00:26:27] This, these chapters have great endings, like all of them so far.

[00:26:31] Yeah, agreed.

[00:26:33] Anyway, that's what happens.

[00:26:35] He gets picked up.

[00:26:37] Um, Harry in the beginning is reading a newspaper article.

[00:26:44] He is.

[00:26:47] Um, and it's talking about him being the chosen one.

[00:26:50] It's talking about the rift between, uh, Rufus Scrimger and Fudge.

[00:26:56] Then there's leaflets in the, uh, Matt, in the newspaper about these creatures called Inferi.

[00:27:02] Nice.

[00:27:02] Or Inferi.

[00:27:03] What are they?

[00:27:05] Um, they're dead bodies that are possessed by Voldemort, I guess.

[00:27:13] Okay.

[00:27:14] I don't know.

[00:27:15] I just read about that in chapter four.

[00:27:18] Yeah.

[00:27:18] Yeah.

[00:27:18] So, yeah, they sound terrifying.

[00:27:22] Yeah.

[00:27:23] Like, it sounds like the, like the dead army that rises up.

[00:27:28] Yeah.

[00:27:29] Yeah.

[00:27:30] But these are, these are more so like zombies.

[00:27:32] Like the dead army, they were like, you know, spirits ish.

[00:27:35] This is like dead bodies and they, he reanimates dead bodies to do his bidding.

[00:27:40] So, do they maintain their own individuality or are they just like a vessel?

[00:27:45] No, no, no.

[00:27:45] They're like a vessel.

[00:27:46] Yeah.

[00:27:46] That's crazy.

[00:27:49] You think we're going to see him?

[00:27:52] Yeah.

[00:27:53] Probably.

[00:27:54] I mean, if he brings it up.

[00:27:55] Yeah, for sure.

[00:27:55] We've already seen a giant basically.

[00:27:57] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:27:58] Which made me sad because I wasn't a hundred percent sure that the giants would go to Voldemort,

[00:28:03] but.

[00:28:04] Yeah, yeah.

[00:28:04] They did.

[00:28:05] And I guess it's just a Grop and Hagrid for the good guys.

[00:28:12] Hmm.

[00:28:14] Um, so there's another point in this chapter where Dumbledore sends a letter to Harry and

[00:28:18] it says, dear Harry, if it is convenient to you, I shall call at number four Privet

[00:28:24] Drive this coming Friday at 11 PM to escort you to the borough where you have been invited

[00:28:28] to spend the remainder of your school holidays.

[00:28:30] If you are agreeable, I should also be glad of your assistance in a matter to which I hope

[00:28:35] to attend on the way to the borough.

[00:28:37] I shall explain this more fully when I see you.

[00:28:39] Kindly send your answer by return of this owl.

[00:28:42] Hoping to see you Friday.

[00:28:43] I am yours most sincerely.

[00:28:46] Albus Dumbledore.

[00:28:47] I love that sign off.

[00:28:48] Yeah.

[00:28:49] I am.

[00:28:50] Yours most sincerely.

[00:28:52] I know how I'm going to start signing letters off like that.

[00:28:54] Email sign off right there.

[00:28:56] That'd be crazy.

[00:28:57] What did you think of this letter?

[00:28:59] I thought it was cool.

[00:29:01] Has he gotten a letter from Dumbledore yet?

[00:29:04] In the whole series of the book, he's got like little notes from Dumbledore, like little

[00:29:08] tidbits here and there, but this is more like an official kind of letter.

[00:29:12] I like it.

[00:29:13] Do you think that Dumbledore is trying to overcompensate here?

[00:29:16] Because he kind of ignored him in the previous book?

[00:29:19] Um, no.

[00:29:21] I mean, I hope Harry would understand why he was ignoring him at this point and be mature

[00:29:25] about that.

[00:29:26] But I think their relationship's a lot better.

[00:29:28] Yeah.

[00:29:29] In these books.

[00:29:30] Like Harry seems way more normal and at ease.

[00:29:34] And like he actually has a personality talking to Dumbledore.

[00:29:36] I agree.

[00:29:37] But do you find that a little unsettling seeing that his uncle, his godfather just died?

[00:29:42] No, I think it's more because they had like a giant fight and they could just get everything

[00:29:47] out on the table.

[00:29:48] Yeah.

[00:29:48] That's a great point.

[00:29:49] Because I think sometimes you just like release and then it's like, it's out there.

[00:29:54] You don't need to talk about it again.

[00:29:56] Yeah.

[00:29:56] And now you just have like this weird bond where you said what you needed to say and

[00:30:02] now you're just kind of like tight whether you like it or not.

[00:30:05] Yeah.

[00:30:05] That's what I was kind of attributing it to.

[00:30:09] That's a great point.

[00:30:10] That like they were able to just kind of like clear the air and then now they have like

[00:30:14] a more normal relationship because it does, it does seem like they're a little bit healthier

[00:30:17] in their relationship right now.

[00:30:19] Yeah.

[00:30:19] Um.

[00:30:21] Because Harry with Dumbledore before was always just like, yes, okay.

[00:30:24] Yeah.

[00:30:24] And there was like no personality.

[00:30:26] Yeah.

[00:30:26] But now he actually has a personality.

[00:30:28] Yeah, for sure.

[00:30:29] Jesus.

[00:30:29] It's great.

[00:30:30] It's lovely.

[00:30:33] Um, here's another intro that we have.

[00:30:35] It says, I don't mean to be rude.

[00:30:36] He began in a tone that threatened rudeness in every syllable.

[00:30:39] Yes.

[00:30:40] Sadly, accidental rudeness occurs alarmingly often.

[00:30:43] Dumbledore finished the sentence gravely.

[00:30:45] Best to say nothing at all, my dear man.

[00:30:46] And this must be Petunia.

[00:30:48] The kitchen door had opened and there stood Harry's aunt wearing rubber gloves and a house

[00:30:51] coat over a nightdress.

[00:30:52] Clearly halfway through her usual pre-bedtime wipe down of all the kitchen surfaces.

[00:30:57] Her rather horsey face registered nothing but shock.

[00:31:00] Albus Dumbledore, said Dumbledore, when Uncle Vernon failed to give, uh, to affect an introduction.

[00:31:06] We have corresponded, of course.

[00:31:08] Harry thought this is an odd way of reminding Ampetunia that they, that they, that he had

[00:31:13] once sent her an exploding letter.

[00:31:15] But Ampetunia did not, did not challenge the term.

[00:31:17] And this must be your son Dudley.

[00:31:20] What do you think of this intro of Dumbledore?

[00:31:22] It's good.

[00:31:23] Yeah.

[00:31:24] I think it's funny.

[00:31:25] It makes me wonder if they correspond more than the howler though.

[00:31:29] I'm like.

[00:31:30] Okay.

[00:31:30] Yeah.

[00:31:31] Cause I just feel like they could be sending letters more.

[00:31:34] About what?

[00:31:35] I don't know.

[00:31:37] I mean.

[00:31:38] Like, are they chatting about Harry?

[00:31:39] I don't seem like Petunia is really chatting with Harry about stuff.

[00:31:42] Yeah.

[00:31:43] I mean, Dumbledore is like, obviously you haven't been treating him how we told you to treat

[00:31:46] him.

[00:31:47] So it seems like he hasn't been given any updates on how Harry's doing, but like she could

[00:31:52] just lie in her letters.

[00:31:53] Like she's a muggle.

[00:31:54] She's not bound by any like truth.

[00:31:57] Yeah.

[00:31:58] Truth quills or whatever they have.

[00:32:00] But yeah, I'm like, maybe they send like a letter back and forth every once in a while.

[00:32:05] I don't know.

[00:32:06] Or like just, he keeps scaring her into like keeping him alive.

[00:32:12] He's continually and perpetually bullying Petunia into keeping Harry alive.

[00:32:16] Even though Petunia wants nothing to do with him.

[00:32:18] Yeah.

[00:32:19] Potentially.

[00:32:19] Possibly.

[00:32:20] It felt like he was putting them under some spell of being quiet too.

[00:32:25] Like it felt like more than them just being scared of him.

[00:32:29] Yeah.

[00:32:29] Do you think that they're there?

[00:32:32] Yeah.

[00:32:33] That's actually a fascinating point that there was some like deeper, not deeper form of

[00:32:35] magic, but Dumbledore was actually performing some magic to keep them shut up because typically

[00:32:40] you don't see the Dursleys like that.

[00:32:42] They're like flummoxed and they like, I don't know, at a loss for words at times, but there's

[00:32:46] like a prolonged period where they're just kind of listened to him and like Dumbledore has

[00:32:50] it all out, you know?

[00:32:51] Yeah.

[00:32:52] Which I love this chapter for that reason.

[00:32:54] Cause Dumbledore kind of like gets his, his word in.

[00:32:58] Um, which is really lovely.

[00:33:01] And like, it makes here, I think, uh, there's something about Dumbledore saying this and

[00:33:05] about Harry hearing it coming from Dumbledore's mouth that I think is really important.

[00:33:09] Um, like all this other stuff happens and like Dumbledore and Harry are having a side

[00:33:14] conversation, even the creature thing where they're like, Oh, you know, creature, if you

[00:33:17] can summon them, then the Grimmauld place is yours.

[00:33:19] And they do that whole thing.

[00:33:21] Um, and then Dumbledore has this like burner of a line is now, as you already know, the

[00:33:28] wizard called Lord Voldemort has returned to his country.

[00:33:30] The wizarding community is currently in a state of open warfare.

[00:33:34] Harry, whom Lord Voldemort has already attempted to kill on numerous occasions is even in greater

[00:33:38] danger now than, than when the day, than the day when I left him on your doorstep 15 years

[00:33:43] ago.

[00:33:44] Uh, with a letter explaining about his parents murder and expressing the hope that you would

[00:33:47] care for him as though he were your own Dumbledore pause.

[00:33:50] And although his voice remained light and calm and he gave no sign of obvious anger, Harry

[00:33:56] felt a kind of chill emanating from him and notice that the Dursleys drew a very slight drew very

[00:34:01] slightly closer together.

[00:34:03] You did not do as I asked.

[00:34:05] You never treated Harry as a son.

[00:34:07] He has known nothing but neglect and often cruelty at your hands.

[00:34:10] The best that can be said is that he has at least escaped the appalling damage you have

[00:34:15] inflicted upon the unfortunate boy sitting between you.

[00:34:19] What do you think of that?

[00:34:22] Sassy.

[00:34:23] I know.

[00:34:23] Do you think that Dudley is more damaged than Harry?

[00:34:27] No.

[00:34:27] Um, hmm.

[00:34:29] I maybe because Dudley doesn't even know he's damaged.

[00:34:32] Whereas Harry is like overcoming it already.

[00:34:35] He's on the path.

[00:34:36] Yeah.

[00:34:37] Fixing it.

[00:34:37] Yeah.

[00:34:37] I didn't really think about that.

[00:34:40] Cause Harry is like becoming a very like well rounded person, I think.

[00:34:47] And he's very normal.

[00:34:48] Like he's a normal guy.

[00:34:50] But Dudley, I feel like he's probably stuck up ego.

[00:34:54] Yeah.

[00:34:54] Doesn't know anything about real life.

[00:34:56] Yeah.

[00:34:57] Maybe he's worse.

[00:34:58] Yeah.

[00:34:59] He could be worse.

[00:35:00] He could be worse off.

[00:35:01] Dumbledore seems to think so.

[00:35:03] Dumbledore had to know that like they were not caring for him though.

[00:35:06] Yeah.

[00:35:07] So, I mean, we've talked about this before, but why would Dumbledore not have changed that?

[00:35:13] I don't know.

[00:35:15] It's just makes me annoyed.

[00:35:17] Yeah.

[00:35:18] Cause he's an evil person.

[00:35:20] Um, we talked about this?

[00:35:23] Did I give you an answer?

[00:35:24] We briefly mentioned it in certain parts.

[00:35:26] Just cause of, cause of our like perpetual hatred of Dumbledore.

[00:35:28] Why would he not rescue?

[00:35:29] No, I'm just kidding.

[00:35:30] Why would he not rescue Harry out of this?

[00:35:32] Yes.

[00:35:33] Why, why would Dumbledore?

[00:35:35] To keep him normal.

[00:35:36] Okay.

[00:35:37] But it, there's a level to it.

[00:35:38] But like normal is not of the use.

[00:35:39] Yeah.

[00:35:39] This is not normal.

[00:35:41] And maybe like to keep him humble, but this is like extreme humility.

[00:35:45] This is like too much.

[00:35:47] I don't know if anybody would, should be put in this situation continuously for what they've

[00:35:51] done.

[00:35:51] So does, does Dumbledore have some greater plan?

[00:35:53] Like, is, is there like weird magic and like, you know, getting like abused by the Dursleys

[00:36:01] that Harry doesn't know about that all of a sudden, you know, like Harry has thicker

[00:36:04] skin literally because you know, maybe he metaphorically has thicker skin.

[00:36:10] I don't know.

[00:36:10] Is there something else at play here?

[00:36:12] I mean, he has to be at the house to have the protection, but that seems like he only

[00:36:17] needs to be there for like a day or like a night.

[00:36:20] Yeah.

[00:36:20] So why not just go for a day and then peace.

[00:36:23] I'm going to the borough.

[00:36:24] Exactly.

[00:36:25] The world may never know.

[00:36:27] I know.

[00:36:28] It's a bummer.

[00:36:28] I don't know.

[00:36:29] Do we know?

[00:36:31] Okay.

[00:36:32] Not at this point, but.

[00:36:33] The world will know.

[00:36:34] The world will know.

[00:36:35] Soon.

[00:36:39] But at this point it definitely makes like, it's not like an open question you're asking.

[00:36:43] It's just like Harry kind of does this and goes back every summer, but it just makes

[00:36:46] when you look back on it, it's like why did Dumbledore actually not, you know, rescue Harry

[00:36:51] from the situation?

[00:36:52] It's a tough question to answer.

[00:36:55] But the end, great ending of this chapter.

[00:36:57] Now Harry, let us step out into the night and pursue that flighty temptress adventure,

[00:37:03] which is the next chapter, chapter four, which is Horace Slughorn.

[00:37:05] Give me a quick summary of that chapter.

[00:37:09] So Dumbledore and Harry go to Horace Slughorn's house, which looks like it's been broken into,

[00:37:16] but is not.

[00:37:17] It's like a farce.

[00:37:20] Yeah.

[00:37:20] Um, and then they, he tries to, his, Dumbledore's point is to convince Horace to be a teacher

[00:37:27] at Hogwarts.

[00:37:27] Yeah.

[00:37:28] But Dumbledore just goes to the bathroom and lets Harry do the convincing very passively,

[00:37:32] unknowingly.

[00:37:33] And then he comes out and he's like, okay, time to go.

[00:37:37] And Horace is like, oh wait, what?

[00:37:39] Okay.

[00:37:40] And then he becomes a teacher.

[00:37:41] And then I think Dumbledore is like, oh, Horace likes to be around and influence the influential

[00:37:50] people.

[00:37:51] So he's like, warns Harry to be careful and cautious that he's just gonna, that Horace is

[00:37:57] gonna come up to Harry to be like, yeah, collect him.

[00:38:01] Like his little jewels.

[00:38:02] Yeah.

[00:38:02] I don't know.

[00:38:02] So that's like, that was a nice warning.

[00:38:05] It's good to know.

[00:38:06] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:38:07] That's what happens.

[00:38:08] So, but I'm gonna, before I ask any of those questions about that, Harry kind of thinks

[00:38:13] in his head that he, when he's like with Dumbledore at this point, it says he's had never had a

[00:38:18] proper conversation with his headmaster outside Hogwarts before.

[00:38:21] There was usually a desk between them.

[00:38:26] And Harry's like kind of thinking of all the questions that he could ask him.

[00:38:29] But if you could ask one question to Dumbledore at this moment, what would you ask?

[00:38:34] At this moment?

[00:38:36] Be like, is there any way I can see Sirius again?

[00:38:42] That's a great question.

[00:38:43] Because there seems to be a lot of weird things once wizards are gone.

[00:38:49] Yeah.

[00:38:50] So like, can we just get somebody to go get Voldemort's wand and we can like zap them together and

[00:38:57] I can see my parents again?

[00:39:00] Like, I don't know.

[00:39:02] The mirror, there's eternal like life if you do something with the rock.

[00:39:07] Yeah.

[00:39:07] So I feel like.

[00:39:08] That would legitimately be a really well written thing in there because it would show Harry's

[00:39:12] like, because that's probably his deepest desire right now is to see his Godfather again.

[00:39:17] Yeah.

[00:39:17] Like, is there a portrait somewhere?

[00:39:19] Yeah.

[00:39:20] That's what I would want to know.

[00:39:23] Yeah.

[00:39:23] Even a portrait would be kind of fun.

[00:39:26] Like, Sirius should have had a portrait painted.

[00:39:29] I know.

[00:39:30] Because like if the portrait person is dead, you can still talk to them, right?

[00:39:36] Yeah.

[00:39:37] But it's not real.

[00:39:38] It's not the real person.

[00:39:39] So there's a slight difference with the headmasters and the headmasters spend time with their

[00:39:44] portrait, getting to know their portrait.

[00:39:45] But he should have done that when he was stuck in the house and they could have been like

[00:39:49] identical.

[00:39:50] No, they wouldn't be identical.

[00:39:51] Cause he was in Grimmauld Place for so long.

[00:39:54] Yeah, for sure.

[00:39:55] He should have some kind of like, maybe even like a child portrait in Grimmauld Place where

[00:39:58] Harry can be like, oh, hey baby, you know, baby Sirius.

[00:40:04] Um, but yeah, it's, it's not the full person.

[00:40:08] It's not even close to the full person.

[00:40:09] So like they could have, you know, random conversations, but I don't know if it would

[00:40:12] be even to the extent that a painted version of Sirius would really even recognize Harry.

[00:40:17] Unless Sirius spent serious time with his portrait.

[00:40:20] Did I not?

[00:40:21] Ew.

[00:40:22] Um, which is what the headmasters are instructed to do.

[00:40:25] What if you painted a portrait, gave it to Harry, Harry put it up in the dorm and then

[00:40:29] they could like, Sirius could come back and forth and like communicate with Harry.

[00:40:33] Is that a thing?

[00:40:35] Yeah, but it would be the portrait communicating.

[00:40:37] It wouldn't be Sirius communicating.

[00:40:41] Okay.

[00:40:41] Well, maybe by other means than portrait.

[00:40:44] They had the mirror, which it should have been the mirror.

[00:40:47] That's what they should have done with the freaking.

[00:40:48] Uh, oh, well, why would you ask Dumbledore?

[00:40:54] That's a question I can honestly answer.

[00:40:56] Yeah.

[00:40:56] Honestly, your, yours is really good because it, it would point to the, uh, the actual

[00:41:00] character of, um, Harry.

[00:41:04] It would be a great bit of writing to include in there.

[00:41:07] Um, I don't know what I'd ask him.

[00:41:13] I'm not prepared to answer these questions.

[00:41:15] I'm only prepared to ask them.

[00:41:16] Neither am I.

[00:41:17] I have less of a warning than you.

[00:41:19] I know.

[00:41:20] You're a quick thinker.

[00:41:21] I would need to like time the process through these.

[00:41:23] Now I like understand putting people through these.

[00:41:26] Yeah.

[00:41:27] These podcasts.

[00:41:28] Cause then now this is just going to be in the podcast for eternity.

[00:41:32] Yeah.

[00:41:32] And you're going to listen back to it and be like, oh, that was a terrible answer,

[00:41:34] but you had to come up with something.

[00:41:37] So go, you're stalling.

[00:41:39] I would choose your answer.

[00:41:42] Um, if I was, if I were Harry, I would probably, um, I mean, there's a bunch of different like

[00:41:49] random questions, but I would probably ask him a lot about like, um, his, his black hand

[00:41:58] at the moment.

[00:42:00] Like that's the most pressing thing I would think would be really interesting to me.

[00:42:04] Yeah.

[00:42:04] And not so because it's like, it doesn't for Dumbledore.

[00:42:07] It doesn't seem like it was just like, you know, some random accident that happened.

[00:42:11] It seems like it was significant to like the fight against Voldemort, even at this point.

[00:42:15] So I'd be like grilling with questions on that.

[00:42:18] But Harry already asked him about it.

[00:42:20] I know.

[00:42:20] And he shut him up.

[00:42:21] Yeah.

[00:42:21] He's like, I can't tell you this now, but I wouldn't do this in real life because I'd

[00:42:26] be terrified to do this.

[00:42:27] If someone like Dumbledore was like, I'm not going to answer that question.

[00:42:29] Now, if I'm Harry, like press into that a little bit, you'd be like, Hey, well, hold

[00:42:32] on last semester.

[00:42:33] You told me like, you know, I should ask you more and trust you.

[00:42:36] And like, this is going to be a relationship.

[00:42:38] You have to tell me these things.

[00:42:39] It says in there though, that Harry got the notion that he wasn't just shutting him down.

[00:42:42] Like he legit did want to tell him the whole story.

[00:42:45] Yeah.

[00:42:46] So why doesn't he?

[00:42:47] Because you need time to do it.

[00:42:49] Yeah.

[00:42:50] Don't you just trust Dumbledore?

[00:42:54] Everything he says.

[00:42:56] Yeah.

[00:42:57] Oh yeah.

[00:42:57] I don't know.

[00:42:59] It's a good answer.

[00:43:01] Yeah.

[00:43:03] I don't know.

[00:43:04] I like Dumbledore's aloofness.

[00:43:06] Maybe I'd ask him like just, you know, a silly question.

[00:43:08] Like, you know, what's the coolest bit of magic you ever performed or something random?

[00:43:11] What's your favorite flavor of jam?

[00:43:14] Yeah.

[00:43:15] It's raspberry.

[00:43:17] Dumbledore's is raspberry.

[00:43:18] Mine's not raspberry.

[00:43:19] Raspberry is one of my least favorite kinds of jam.

[00:43:21] What's yours?

[00:43:22] So many better.

[00:43:23] I mean, I had blueberry jam a few weeks ago.

[00:43:25] I haven't gotten blueberry in a while, but it's delicious.

[00:43:29] I'm apricot.

[00:43:30] I like apricot.

[00:43:30] Even though that's, that's controversial.

[00:43:32] That's the worst.

[00:43:33] Apricot's delicious.

[00:43:34] I would say grape and strawberry are my top two.

[00:43:37] Yeah.

[00:43:37] Those are classics.

[00:43:38] Hard to beat those.

[00:43:39] Apricot's crazy though.

[00:43:41] Apricot's delicious.

[00:43:42] It's yellow.

[00:43:43] No one wants yellow jam.

[00:43:46] Yellow flavored.

[00:43:47] Anything is the best.

[00:43:49] No.

[00:43:50] Yes.

[00:43:50] No.

[00:43:51] Literally.

[00:43:52] Yellow Laffy Taffy, yellow Runts, yellow, you name it.

[00:43:55] And the yellow flavor are the best.

[00:43:56] What is that?

[00:43:58] The candy back in my, in the good old days.

[00:44:00] They were like.

[00:44:01] 20th century.

[00:44:02] Oh gosh.

[00:44:04] Ouch.

[00:44:05] That cuts.

[00:44:06] Um, they were like a little like fruit flavored candies, but the yellow was banana.

[00:44:11] Anything banana flavored is my favorite.

[00:44:12] Half.

[00:44:13] The majority of yellow things are lemon though.

[00:44:15] So.

[00:44:16] Yeah, that's true.

[00:44:17] And that sucks.

[00:44:19] Banana Laffy Taffys are good though.

[00:44:21] Banana Laffy Taffys are the best.

[00:44:22] Or green apple Laffy Taffys are great too.

[00:44:24] No.

[00:44:25] Two faves.

[00:44:26] What?

[00:44:27] You're absurd.

[00:44:28] I don't like sour things.

[00:44:29] I don't think.

[00:44:31] Green apple's not that sour.

[00:44:33] The Italian ice I was just eating before it was like really sour.

[00:44:37] What was it?

[00:44:38] Kiwi strawberry.

[00:44:39] Oh.

[00:44:41] It was too sour.

[00:44:41] Yeah, that is a little sour.

[00:44:42] I did not enjoy.

[00:44:44] Both of those I feel like aren't sour.

[00:44:46] Was it tart?

[00:44:48] I think they just dumped some citric acid in there and called it a day.

[00:44:54] Yeah.

[00:44:56] Um.

[00:44:58] Okay, here's another random like meta question.

[00:45:02] Yeah, Dumbledore goes keep your wand at the ready Harry.

[00:45:05] He said brightly, but I thought I'm not allowed to use magic outside school, sir.

[00:45:10] If there's an attack said Dumbledore, I give you permission to use any counter jinx or curse that might occur to you.

[00:45:14] However, I do not think you'll have to worry about being attacked tonight.

[00:45:18] Why not sir?

[00:45:19] You are with me said Dumbledore simply.

[00:45:22] First of all, is Dumbledore arrogant to say this?

[00:45:25] And second of all, who in the wizarding world do you feel completely safe around?

[00:45:29] I don't think it's arrogant.

[00:45:30] That's like, I would feel so safe.

[00:45:33] Yeah, I know for sure.

[00:45:34] I'm like, oh, all right.

[00:45:35] If he's not, yeah, if he's not stressed, I'm not stressed.

[00:45:37] And Harry has no idea where he is either.

[00:45:40] Yeah.

[00:45:40] It's not even like his town.

[00:45:42] Yeah.

[00:45:43] Who would I feel safe with?

[00:45:48] Dumbledore, Tonks, McGonagall.

[00:45:51] Yes, Tonks.

[00:45:52] Like any from the order.

[00:45:53] Mm-hmm.

[00:45:55] Yeah, like anyone in the order.

[00:45:57] Mr. Weasley, probably Mrs. Weasley.

[00:46:00] Yeah, I'd be good on us.

[00:46:00] Honestly, Fred and George, I would feel so safe with that.

[00:46:03] I would feel safe, but simultaneously not because you're like, okay, they're going to make an accident.

[00:46:07] Not like, they're going to like, give me some candy and I'm going to like blow up from this candy.

[00:46:12] But just their general expertise and knowledge feels so safe.

[00:46:15] If we were in danger, I feel like I'd be completely safe.

[00:46:18] But if we're just like messing around and they're like, hey, do you want to eat this?

[00:46:20] Yeah.

[00:46:20] I'd be like, no, absolutely not.

[00:46:22] Yeah.

[00:46:24] Yeah, it's great.

[00:46:28] A few other random questions.

[00:46:30] What happened to his hand?

[00:46:33] I don't know.

[00:46:34] He also has this ring that they're talking about.

[00:46:37] What is the ring?

[00:46:38] It's like a cracked black stone, I think.

[00:46:42] Okay.

[00:46:44] I'm avoiding the meaning behind that.

[00:46:49] I don't, I think his hand either got hurt in the battle in the last book at the ministry.

[00:46:57] Mm-hmm.

[00:46:58] Um, or what did I just say before that like he did some, like he, he told.

[00:47:05] Yeah.

[00:47:06] Unforgivable or, uh, unbreakable.

[00:47:08] Oh yeah.

[00:47:09] An unbreakable vow.

[00:47:10] Like what happens when you break an unbreakable vow?

[00:47:14] Your hand goes black.

[00:47:15] Maybe your hand turns black.

[00:47:16] I don't know.

[00:47:18] Cause I feel like with the house, like with Grimwald Place, something could have happened

[00:47:24] there because, um, like there was a whole secret keeper situation with that.

[00:47:31] Right?

[00:47:31] Yeah.

[00:47:32] So I don't know of like, who was the secret keeper for the house?

[00:47:37] Serious?

[00:47:38] Yeah.

[00:47:39] So then the secret keeper dies.

[00:47:42] Yeah.

[00:47:42] And then that's, you're not bound by that anymore.

[00:47:45] Um.

[00:47:46] Like what happens to the other person?

[00:47:49] Does their hand turn black?

[00:47:54] No, the other person, uh.

[00:47:58] Cause like, why does the.

[00:47:59] No.

[00:47:59] Why do they know where it is?

[00:48:01] Sorry, sorry.

[00:48:02] The secret keeper of Grimwald Place wasn't Serious.

[00:48:05] It was Dumbledore.

[00:48:06] Serious just owned the property.

[00:48:08] So why do people know where it is?

[00:48:10] Cause Dumbledore gives them access to it.

[00:48:13] Remember that piece of paper Harry read?

[00:48:15] And he said the address that was in Dumbledore's writing.

[00:48:18] But how does.

[00:48:19] The Death Eaters know where it is?

[00:48:21] They don't.

[00:48:22] Well, they know where it is, but they can't get in.

[00:48:24] They can't access it.

[00:48:26] So there is.

[00:48:27] I thought they could.

[00:48:28] That's why the order left.

[00:48:31] No, that they were nervous because they thought ownership had transferred to Bellatrix

[00:48:35] and she would have access to it in that occurrence.

[00:48:38] So they evacuated it.

[00:48:39] And then when creature responded to Harry, that's when it was confirmed that Harry is the rightful owner of 12 Grimwald Place.

[00:48:46] It passed down to Harry rather than Bellatrix by deep magic.

[00:48:51] So then they're going to go back there?

[00:48:53] Yeah.

[00:48:53] So they can go back there now.

[00:48:55] Okay.

[00:48:57] Um.

[00:48:59] Sweet.

[00:49:01] Sweet.

[00:49:03] Sweet.

[00:49:04] Sweet.

[00:49:05] Sweet.

[00:49:10] You are totally married, man.

[00:49:12] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:49:15] I don't mind him nothing so far like he seems a little jumpy and overly cautious to be running

[00:49:22] around the country and like pretending to be ransacked but i mean whatever works like that's

[00:49:30] better than dying so so he dumbledore gives him gives harry like a notion that he's he's a bit

[00:49:37] shifty and a bit odd and he's gonna try to collect harry and he like kind of feeds on

[00:49:42] people who are famous and and have like bright futures um why would dumbledore bring a teacher

[00:49:49] like that didn't say he was like a master of x y and z oh master what that i don't

[00:49:59] i mean i don't remember what it said verbatim so he's gonna what wasn't he the chief or something

[00:50:09] huh oh you can just tell me these things too i don't think i don't think that uh it says that

[00:50:17] he's a master of anything in this yes it does i think it says rufus scrimger was the the he was

[00:50:22] the chief or or the head of magical law enforcement or whatever he was i think you can tell me he is

[00:50:32] i don't think it says he's a master of anything in this chapter to be honest i'm like trying to

[00:50:35] remember it i don't think that that that happens yeah i'm sorry i think uh i don't think that's in

[00:50:58] there so do you do you think that he's gonna teach um be a good teacher what is he gonna teach

[00:51:17] defense against the dark arts probably um yeah but he will probably like keep selecting harry to be at

[00:51:26] the front of class and like perform things yeah for sure for sure but i think he'd be fine again

[00:51:37] so no answer to this question really but why uh why do you think dumbledore has is trying to bring

[00:51:44] slughorn to teach is that is he's just scraping the bottom of the barrel like the last teacher

[00:51:50] that he can find that would take the job um no i think he probably knows that hey what's come here

[00:52:10] what's up we're almost done west um what was i saying oh i don't think he's scraping the bottom

[00:52:22] of the barrel i think he there's some benefit to having slughorn and i think he's gonna be more

[00:52:28] powerful for the order than like uh he wants like he wants to keep him in the order instead of having

[00:52:35] him be on voldemort's side okay and it is kind of like protection for him too which is why he got

[00:52:42] convinced to be yeah absolutely so yeah absolutely it's a win for him i guess yeah for sure for sure

[00:52:47] for sure for sure um last one sorry i said there was that those are the last two but at the end of

[00:52:54] this dumbledore says he's gonna that harry's gonna have private lessons with him what are these private

[00:52:59] lessons gonna be on a little bit of this great answer to that question thanks for joining us on

[00:53:05] um i don't know probably some occlumency and legilimency okay um probably dark arts um maybe some

[00:53:16] a little bit of this yeah i like it literally everything all right yeah and then did it not

[00:53:26] say if he was gonna have i think more uh occlumency with snape he wasn't gonna have to take occlumency

[00:53:31] with snape anymore he was wasn't oh wasn't yeah dumbledore cut that that's good that's nice

[00:53:39] anyway so it doesn't have to endure that anymore yeah maybe because snape and voldemort are now doing

[00:53:45] occlumency to each other yeah they're canceling each other out yeah um we won't go over all the

[00:53:53] questions but just give me a hot tamale for this chapter that's all we care about tamale

[00:53:59] dumbledore oh dumbledore's yellow hot tamale energy yeah that's my pick a little gay old man energy

[00:54:05] right there sure whatever you say i'm kind of down at that i kind of like that i just feel like he has

[00:54:12] a personality this time yeah agreed agreed and just like how he's able to weave in in conversation

[00:54:17] i think in the will and won't chapter when he's able to like demand that conversation yeah

[00:54:21] prove the daresley's wrong i kind of love that too i think you're i think you nailed it i think he's

[00:54:25] got a more of his uh yeah more of his personality comes out in these chapters which is lovely to see

[00:54:32] so agreed good pick thanks i'll close out thanks for joining us on our journey of harry potter

[00:54:40] and the second time readers bye see ya