Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: Ch 6-10

[00:00:00] Welcome to the podcast. I'm Jon and I'm Lizzie. This is Harry Potter and the Second Time Reader Okay chapters six through ten. Let's go through these as quick as possible Why? I know, just kidding. I get no air time. The other podcasts are like four hours

[00:00:34] We're trying to speed through this so we can get the Lord of the Rings This is like an abbreviated one. We're trying to do these like half hour chunk half hour to 45 minutes I got you Don't make me explain this thing all over again

[00:00:47] Yeah, we have this conversation every single week. Like wait, how do you edit this? How are you gonna post it? The portkey Mm-hmm is a very interesting magical Public transportation. Yeah Do you like it? I do I feel like Okay, this is the thing

[00:01:07] It's just public transportation for wizards But it's all like pre-planned and they have to like be scheduled Yeah, so do you have to like contact the ministry and be like I need a portkey or are they only administered?

[00:01:23] By the ministry when they see fit. I guess this is not like an important question, but no, it's a fascinating question Because someone it's either Ludo or Crouch this is why I have my little notes thing. I think it's

[00:01:43] Ludo is in control of all of the port keys, right? Yeah, which makes me think they're only like used very specifically at important times, okay Because it's not just like a Transit we're like, you know, yeah plastic water bottles gonna be there every day at 9 a.m so

[00:02:08] There's I mean, you know of all the ways that wizards trans trans transpire Transport a transfer tape they transport somewhere You know of all the ways so they via flu network via portkey or apparition And portkeys seem like the

[00:02:37] Chunkiest and the clunkiest way to travel like the other one You're just like, you know You have flu powder and you just go from one chimney to another as long as it's connected to flu powder

[00:02:45] And portkeys are definitely very specific for where you can go you go from one spot and it all leads you to another spot So I guess it's like a bus or something like that But they are

[00:03:00] Ministry controlled so like you have to get it like scheduled with the ministry. You can't just kind of make a portkey yourself you maybe probably make a portkey from like one spot to another like Maybe in your house like just chillin, but it's like the apparition

[00:03:16] Charm or something is like embedded in the object and it's a completely different thing The charm is Portis I think that you make it as an object I don't know really how that charm works to be completely honest, but it's an interesting question

[00:03:29] so you're coming up with all these questions that like I Know that there's answers out there, but I haven't like thought that deeply about some of this stuff. So I Could confuse sometimes they have to take so many

[00:03:42] Precautions and it's like so out of the way and annoying. Yeah that like the wizards have to live like this Yeah, for real. I feel like they should just have a wizard uprising and kill All right. I did not see it going in that direction

[00:03:56] So your team Voldemort then all right. Well, this podcast is over everyone. Have a good night Jumped off the deep end I just feel like wizards are superior to muggles and I'm just like why are they living like inconveniently

[00:04:13] When they just kill everyone and just like live as the majority Not that like I'm supporting Um This I feel like this is against certain things that you think that you like believe like do you think

[00:04:36] Do you think that human beings are we this goes everything goes back to our dementor discussion Do you think that human beings are greater than animals? But I'm there I'm like towing the line, okay, so but yeah There's some human beings that are greater than other human beings

[00:05:02] No, there's not So our wizards human beings are they other entities in and of themselves Wizards are just trying to iron out your wizard racism, right? I know It's definitely not a Consistent belief system here. There's lots of holes I don't know. I just feel like

[00:05:30] When given the choice between a magical person and a not magical person Magic is better But maybe magic is also like more opportunity to do evil like you have a greater capacity for Absolutely, for sure. So maybe they're not better

[00:05:49] Yeah, but we could also just start killing more people then and just kill all the bad guys This is my one episode where I'm not a pacifist and just like There's a great spot in

[00:06:06] We're not gonna get to it for a while at the beginning of book six or two people are having a conversation and Someone goes you guys are wizards. Why can't you just use magic and this person who's

[00:06:17] This person who's kind of a good wizard, but not really they kind of are they're on like the good side at that point But they say the funny thing is the other side can do magic too

[00:06:28] So it's like it doesn't matter if they can do magic versus not do magic So it's like one side not overpowering the other so that's why they're having this battle within the muggle or within the wizarding world is because they're vying for power in the wizarding world

[00:06:39] Because whoever has power in the wizarding world can exert control over the muggle world A little terrifying to be completely honest But it's kind of what it comes down to one side is benevolent toward the muggles and they want to live in harmony with the muggles

[00:06:51] Kind of there's all sorts of history about how wizards truly want to live with muggles versus not want to live with muggles But muggles generally have been afraid of

[00:07:04] Wizards growing up. This is why we had the Salem witch trials like we were burning witches because we were terrified of them Not necessarily because We wanted to live in a in harmony with them

[00:07:14] But I would say a lot of wizards do want harmony with the muggle world because they don't want to be in the shadows and hiding they want to be able to do magic as much as they want but

[00:07:25] It's almost an impossibility that's gonna happen. So Voldemort on the other hand wants to wipe everyone out So he got a wizard dominance over muggles and make muggles subservient and serve humans Oh my gosh, what have we created here?

[00:07:43] I feel like a nice 50-50 split of the population where everyone can be their public Out of the closet wizard self and do their magic in public and not have fear That'd be ideal. I think yeah for sure

[00:08:00] But we got to do some population reduction to get there or increase If like the population were cut in half then everyone would live perfectly in an army, this is great Wow, they just have so much inconvenience to live under the radar

[00:08:21] Like why can't they just be out there and be proud? They can't because of us because of us muggles This is like true anything in life. I feel like if you're a little bit different from people you're gonna get Some people just don't like different people

[00:08:36] So like I mean think of what happens in school if like you're the weird kid in school Then you're gonna get bullied because not because like really been anything about you But it's like you're weird and the bullies are the normal quote-unquote normal ones

[00:08:54] And they don't like you because you're just a little different. So they're gonna hurt you because of that. It's like sad But I feel like that's human nature. Maybe you have a really pessimistic view of human nature, but that's just what happens

[00:09:05] That's why you look out for the little guys and like like wizards In a weird this is like weird because they're the little guys They're the minority, but they also have more power than muggles. So like they're simultaneously afraid of us, but also looking out for us

[00:09:21] There's a huge responsibility but we could just wipe half of them out and then There's a huge responsibility but we could just wipe half of them out and then What percentage of the population is wizards Probably really insignificant. There's there's lots of questions within

[00:09:40] This is how many wizards actually exist in the world because this book opens it up significantly We're like there's thousands of people at the Quidditch World Cup and everyone's watching this and everyone's playing

[00:09:50] There's countries with full teams of Quidditch teams and it's like there's got to be like millions of wizards worldwide So it definitely isn't the millions, but no one knows the exact number. I think it's a good question too much Um, there was another

[00:10:22] I don't know how much I want to get into like the history of some of the stuff with you, but Here's a question. I have for you. Maybe this sounds like a weird question, but if you were to start a Wizard uprising let's say you wanted to

[00:10:39] Murder all the muggles in the world. How would you go about doing that? How would you get the wizards on your side? Because this is what Voldemort is trying to do. Okay, if I'm Voldemort, how am I causing an uprising? I Would make a lot of empty promises

[00:10:59] Power wealth status Like ownership of property Land I'll give you guys land if you just follow me. Um, I don't know I would need to be able to

[00:11:17] Get people to trust me so like I would need to be powerful in and of myself. Yeah, cuz I don't like if it's Lockhart like he's not gonna get very far. Yeah, I mean uprising because he's you can see through that

[00:11:29] So, I don't know. I don't I doubt my wizarding ability to even like don't tell you Great, you'd be great at leading the masses a little us astray and starting to kill muggles just

[00:11:42] Don't know like this is too far gone. I don't even no one would ever follow me or listen. I Don't know like I that's my question with Voldemort What did he do why I think he probably is inciting fear first and then threatening people

[00:12:03] but we're gonna learn more about him his way of deception is a Really fascinating one and even how he got people on his side is a really really fascinating one and it's kind of through charm

[00:12:22] Which is like weird. Well hit that we hit that but Tom Riddle was a very charming boy And so he drew people to himself because of his charm He knew how to like work her crowd people didn't see through him and they didn't realize he was using this

[00:12:36] Against people people thought he was just charming and he didn't people didn't realize how manipulative he was. So it's like sociopathic It's like using his charm in order to like get make people do what they want or do what he wants So it's a little bit wrong

[00:12:51] Obviously not a little bit. It's very wrong but I feel like it's very true of world leaders who Have these insane regimes they're charismatic and they're very charming You know all of them, but at one point they're charismatic. Yeah, like you don't follow a leader Like how many

[00:13:14] terrible leaders Not like how many incredible leaders who have had like atrocities on humanity How many of them have been like these quiet people that no one really cares about or wants to follow?

[00:13:25] You have to amass some kind of crowd somehow. So a lot of them do it through their charisma Like for how terrible that Hitler was he was one of the greatest speakers I've ever listened to a tape of Like he's

[00:13:39] Yelling and he's and I'm like, I don't even know what you're saying Cuz he's saying in German and you're getting fired up about something. You don't even know what he's saying about so like There's definite definitely some charisma that these leaders have to have

[00:13:51] You got that charisma Lizzie. You can you can gain a huge following and start murdering all these buckles. I Feel like the first step is there I could definitely get people to like like me and follow me, but I have no

[00:14:05] Crazy ambitions to like take over the world Good I'm glad I just have me and my posse. Yeah So you're just trying to move these people just so everyone can start loving you that's great rather than like, okay, let's take over the world

[00:14:25] All right, everyone become my friends and let's just hang out Cry for help Okay, any let's go over chapter 7 unless you had anything else in chapter 6 We meet Cedric's dad. Yeah, how do you like him? um, I Like him. I think he's cool. He seems very like

[00:14:55] Who raw kind of man? I don't know He's bragging about his son. Mm-hmm And then Cedric is like so nice and pure and kind and he's like dad stop bragging about me

[00:15:10] Like it doesn't matter and then I feel like Cedric should be the person that's full of himself Cuz he's like known to be the attractive like good sports player kind of kid but I Don't know. I think Amos is like a normal kind of dad in a way

[00:15:26] Yeah, a little annoying but very proud of his son to a point where it's like dad shut up. Yeah. Yeah one change and I've Like a crazy spoiler But one change that I like in the movies is that they actually make Amos a bit more

[00:15:42] Likeable in the movies than in the books and the books. I don't like him at all in the books I'm like he's just an annoying He's like so boastful of his son beating Harry when it wasn't really even like a legitimate win

[00:15:52] Yeah, and then in the movies they make him a bit more likable which I think works to his favor in the end But I think he's bragging because he wants to one-up. Mr. Weasley and not be impressed that Harry's there

[00:16:04] Yeah, that's actually a great point cuz they work together, but I don't know like what their hmm little office office situation It's a great point their office culture Um, so yeah, I don't know He's trying to do something impress mr. Weasley, yeah, I like that

[00:16:26] All right chapter 7 it was just bag men and crouch give me a quick summary of this chapter the gang which is the Weasleys and the Hermione Is that it? Oh Hermione Harry and the Weasleys the gang

[00:16:41] Is that it Oh Hermione Harry and the Weasleys the gang settle into their campsite more world-building Bagman and crouch baby wizards different nationalities of wizards that I didn't know existed that they're everywhere in the world

[00:16:57] Etc. That's my story. So you don't actually like the world building of this. Do you take it back a little bit? Um, I definitely Take it back at least half of Because

[00:17:12] Now when I like go back to review this and like just make sure I remember everything that's happening I'm seeing so many connections that like I didn't even know we're there or like something you think is just like oh that sets

[00:17:26] Like the foundation, but then you totally forget it so that I'm seeing like the majesty of this book and like all these little intricacies Show up so that's why I like this more because I have like part B in my mind

[00:17:40] So that part a is like actually yeah, really good now rather than part a just being like, okay Yeah, this is nothing but like you need to have the second half to understand that but here's something that's cool, too

[00:17:53] Which was some like some stuff that she does in this chapter is she sets up a lot in this chapter That's gonna come up in future chapters as well. Yeah, but you just don't know that yet so path this chapter is great because you're like

[00:18:03] Oh, I remember this from before and half this chapter is foreshadowing for things that happen in the future Now you can reread this again and be like, oh wow She included a lot of stuff in here that I just kind of skipped over

[00:18:14] But that is world building so that I'm like acquainted with it So when I get to that chapter, I know a little bit about it at least Yeah, so there's one of those

[00:18:23] Which is something that they call the Department of Mysteries. What do you think they do in the Department of Mysteries? It's a crime-solving organization they solve all the mysteries of the universe I don't know the Department of Mysteries. Yeah, is that like

[00:18:48] things that no one knows how to do yet or like Like bills breaking charm or breaking Curses is that like the mysteries like they're trying to figure out all these new things and invent new magic this one The Department of Mysteries is really cool

[00:19:08] Like so people who work there are called unspeakable and no one really knows what they do in the Department of Mysteries at this point the books but something Do you want to spoil a little bit it's not really a spoiler to be honest

[00:19:23] It's just like description of what they do I Never know how much this will versus like what's uh, what's a what's okay versus not what's not? Okay, so the Department of Mysteries is they're looking into the mysteries of life which are things like time They're looking into

[00:19:42] How the mind works they're looking into what love is they're looking into what death is these things that are incredible mysteries in the muggle world and

[00:19:53] They're trying to figure these things out what magic is entailed in these things because there's magic that they haven't yet discovered which is a Such a cool idea to me that like we're in this world right now

[00:20:05] And they haven't really explored every single boundary of what what these things are Dumbledore has this line sometimes I'd like to think there's there's a music room in the ministry of

[00:20:14] Department of mysteries because Dumbledore has this line in the first book where he talks about music and how it's a it's Like a magic beyond all we do here and I'm like

[00:20:23] that I love that so much and the idea of love the idea of death the idea of you know, faith the idea of How your mind works or how time works? These are all incredible mysteries and they're deeper forms of magic

[00:20:38] That like muggles can participate in and I love that and I think We'll get there. We we hit some other books. So, huh? I spoil everything for you But this is what that's kind of what the Department of mysteries is. It's really fascinating to me. It's

[00:20:54] It's good discussion. So do you think once? Lily Potter died that's when they were like, oh we got a study love now No, I think they're studying love way before she died because Okay, and how they're studying love is another debated issue

[00:21:11] if no one really knows how they're how they're how they're just how they're like Talking about love and considering love and like studying love There's lot lots of debate within the Harry Potter community for how they're actually doing that

[00:21:24] I have my own theories, but we'll get there when we get there What is that like you did such a dead end I know Yeah, yes I know I'm just this is me just gushing about everything in the series

[00:21:40] I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just Anything to it, I'll just sit here smiling Anything else in this chapter First of all, this is dumb, but it took them 20 minutes to walk a quarter of a mile

[00:22:02] Like she should not have wrote that that's ridiculous. Why a 20 minute quarter of a mile. Yeah, because there's so much cool stuff around and they're looking at everything There's no so packed no way. Are you walking that slowly?

[00:22:16] Well, there's that the description of the book is because everything is so packed How fat or how far are you able to travel in the jungle? They say Marines can travel a mile a day in the jungle

[00:22:28] So that's what it's like. They're not Marsh. They're in like a more it's flat Yeah, it's flat but that's why everything is so congested. It's like go to Times Square in the middle of December 25th on Christmas and try to walk a half mile in Rockefeller Center

[00:22:45] It's gonna take you a good two hours do that. So they're like shuffling through a crowd. Yeah That's the whole description. That's the point of the description because it's a crowd of people You're out here. We're like in the burbs right here

[00:22:58] We're like, I'm I go for a walk with Wes and like two miles and like, you know a half hour Yeah, this is great. You're like how the heck are they able to walk a quarter mile?

[00:23:08] 25 minutes understand they were all like packed in like sardines. Yeah, they're kind of packed in like sardines The Salem Witches Institute. Yeah, like I want to know about that. I know me too Cuz that's like the Americans

[00:23:25] Over morning, baby. It's the best school. It's the best words wizarding school So like all the witches survived the Salem witch trials or like it seems like they survived now Well, yeah

[00:23:36] Some of them most of them actually did survive Harry writes about this in one of his papers in the in his third year A lot of them did had this like tickling charm. Yeah fire

[00:23:47] I forgot what her name is, but she liked it so much that she like got burned like what 70 times Yeah So none of them really died, but it was a time of wizard persecution nonetheless

[00:23:58] It was still a time when like everyone was like terrified of them and we're trying to persecute them even though they really couldn't But it's like the you ever read the play the Crucible It's so good, it's so good you gotta read that one. I

[00:24:15] Want to be part of that group? I don't know the Salem Witches Institute. They had like this big banner Yeah, and I just imagine it being like all girls too cuz yeah, which is so then it's like an all-girls school

[00:24:26] I love that. I don't know. Yeah something I would I want more Um and mr. Weasley I realized in these chapters, I feel like he's more popular than I thought he was like he's he knows all these important ministry people and I feel like he is

[00:24:46] Portrayed as like he doesn't do good at his job or his job is like the lowest on the ladder But I don't know like he knows all these people. Yeah, he's pretty cool, dude. He's introducing Harry to everybody

[00:24:58] Yeah, like I don't know he just went up in the world Definitely. He's at least like well liked Yeah, he might not be great at his job

[00:25:07] But he's well liked again because he's like the head of the muggle-born. What is it the muggle-born Commission or something like that? and Mismusive muggle artifacts office and he doesn't you know how to use any muggle artifacts Yeah

[00:25:21] But he's obsessed with it still like he's cute. He's just not Like maybe he's good at his job job like the office and the interpersonal stuff Give him the respect he needs but I don't know he has his eccentricities

[00:25:46] But I love mr. Weasley, he's like one of my favorites but yeah Maybe he's not great at his job, but he's at least really really kind and that's what matters. What is his job? It's to make sure that no one

[00:26:01] Notices when things are no not necessarily. It's um people taking muggle things and Giving them some like Not this it's a lot of times. It's dark, but it's not necessarily dark so like Great example your touch lights that you were talking about

[00:26:22] It's like let's say a wizard stole your touch lights and just put a spell on them that they turn on every 15 minutes That would be under the misuse of muggle artifacts because you're doing it to essentially scare

[00:26:36] Witches or you're to scare muggles like what would the real purpose of that be? So like when you misuse muggle artifacts like which is ironic because he made this car yeah, a Flying car so like he is not doing what he's literally

[00:26:54] Legally required to do. Yeah, and the laws that he probably wrote So no, but he wrote in loopholes But he's not using it for evil most people who are doing that are using it for

[00:27:08] Our like wicked purposes. So he's just trying to sort out all those people who are doing that But they're doing it for wicked purposes like in the muggle world or they're doing it like just to yeah They're trying to I mean, it's a little bit of both

[00:27:21] they're trying to do muggles into like doing stupid things and like it's like I Guess pranking people a little bit like harmless pranks for some of it, but then there's also this rhetoric where it's attached to

[00:27:34] Anti muggle sentiment. So there are certain witches and wizards that are doing it because of their hatred Toward muggles and they want muggles. It's like called muggle baiting you like

[00:27:45] Enchant these objects and then you bait muggles into these situations where like, you know something bad happens to them Or you just use muggle artifacts muggle things in order to like harm a normal muggle

[00:27:57] which there's it shows you one thing that I love in these chapters is it it really shows you the Like the human condition of how how people treat each other

[00:28:08] Like even just his job alone shows you how people treat each other and like this is like the human race Nothing really changes in the wizarding world. Nothing changes in the muggle world. We all do the same things to each other

[00:28:19] We're all nasty to each other at certain parts and Here is mr. Weasley who's just an example of someone who's kind who's who's doing things that he shouldn't do but he's doing them With no ill intent So like it's like even what you said

[00:28:35] Maybe a little bit of what you said, but you kind of trust mr Weasley more because he's just very upfront like Dumbledore does these things because he thinks he's almost above the law

[00:28:44] Arthur Weasley is writing loopholes into the law so that he can do these things that he wants But he's very he like Arthur Weasley is a lot more innocent of a character than Dumbledore. Yeah, so I don't know. I Don't know how I got there

[00:29:03] That kind of makes me not so convinced of my wizard only Yes Finally we got her off of that because wizards are not like intrinsically good. Yeah, so thank you

[00:29:17] They have this anti muggle situation. Yeah, I don't like that. But like that was literally what I was saying. So sorry No, they're not again You wish they were like that, but that's not the case Yeah, if all wizards were good and they were awesome people

[00:29:37] then I feel like maybe they're superior to muggles, but They're just like normal personality type of thing. I can just do cooler stuff that we can do then we can do Maybe we can and nobody's thrown us out a window Into the podcast

[00:30:05] But yeah, this is a good bit of world building I Do like these chapters a lot. These are fun chapters Yeah, there's a lot of like good moments of little information. Yeah Any any other points in this chapter before you go into the eight? I don't think so

[00:30:27] All right. Give me a quick summary of chapter 8 The gang settle into the top box seats at the Quidditch World Cup Harry thinks he sees his old friend Dobby But it's crouches off winky the gang shares a tense moment with the Malfoys before settling down to watch

[00:30:41] What is 14 pages of uninterrupted Quidditch? It's great. I love it Most people I don't know most people I know a lot of people who when they read this book these their chapters that they skip over like there's a there's definitely

[00:31:00] If you've read it, like, you know, like most of our community has read these books 10 to 15 times sometimes some people even more and when you have read it that long

[00:31:08] There are designated chapters that you just skip because you're like, I cannot read this chapter again. I hate this Like do you watch The Office? There's an episode of The Office that everyone notoriously skips over. It's called Scott's tots because it is painful to watch that episode

[00:31:25] With all the stuff that happens in it It's like agony watching that episode and there's a few chapters that people think are like agonizing I have one that I can't stand and I generally skip over when I read but that comes later in book five

[00:31:40] But this is one of those chapters that sometimes people they see the Quidditch World Cup and they're like I don't want to watch 14 or read 14 pages of uninterrupted Quidditch right now. This is a little bit boring

[00:31:50] I'm just gonna skip this and I love Quidditch too, but I feel like Yeah, if I reread this again, I would probably at least skim it yeah, I feel like skipping is sacrilegious but

[00:32:05] I don't know. I still liked it. Like I was enjoying my time reading this chapter. Yeah, it's just a lot Yeah, it is a lot. I know for sure and like kind of for nothing to like there's not much like if you know who Krum is then I

[00:32:22] Feel like we didn't need to watch him play We could just say later on that he's like the champion of Quidditch and that's enough But yeah, that's world-building for you. Yeah, exactly You got to take long detours on certain things

[00:32:36] And you got to see how good Krum actually is at Quidditch too because they're introduced to him later in these books So you have to know that he's like an adept Quidditch player Yeah, you're in chapter 18 right now. Yeah, what chapter is that?

[00:32:51] Um, what just happened they just Had the the Goblet of Fire read out the names and then it's like Harry Potter champions Weighing the wands, but I have only read Like five pages of that chapter. Okay, so I don't know what happens

[00:33:19] Yeah, there is there is really not Like a ton of super Deep things that are in this chapter except for one that I want to talk about which is Winky the house elf. Yes What do you think about that she only speaks in like present I don't know

[00:33:46] I liked how it felt like Harry Potter was checking in on Dobby like he wanted to know is Doing and that felt like character growth and development because I mean I definitely didn't really like Dobby

[00:33:58] Yeah, and I feel like maybe Harry was really annoyed by Dobby as well. But I Feel like they had a little moment there. Yeah, that's great. Yeah But yeah, like Winky's telling us a lot about the house elf kind of ethics and just the rules The norms. Yep

[00:34:19] Which is strange like I Think I know the answer to this question. Would you want to have a house off? Okay, no, I have my answer but you go ahead I don't think you'd want to hustle why not Now

[00:34:45] Well, maybe I take that back I think you wouldn't mind having a self but I think you treat a house elf very humanely Unlike I think a lot of wizards for how they treat their house elves

[00:34:58] Like a lot of people are treating their house elves like an absolute servant or a slave They could do whatever they want with this thing and like order it to do Whatever and they could be super mean to it and abusive. I

[00:35:09] Don't that's what you do. I think you wouldn't mind having a house elf like help you out with like certain things here and there But I think you'd be very humane to it and get to it. Yeah, I was gonna say I wouldn't mind having one but

[00:35:21] yeah, like if I knew it for a long time and it lived life with me was with me through the ups and downs like That's my girl Yeah, like I'm not gonna just be mean to that Yeah Do you think that all house elves should be set free?

[00:35:43] No Why because I think they'd be lost without a purpose in the world and become useless and just cause What's the there I'm gonna go back to the artimento debate all the time what is the mentor I should have never changed Look at the beast that you've created

[00:36:08] Standing up Spoken oh, what's the difference in how cells being set free and div enters being set free? why Can dementors be set free but not how selves? I don't think the mentors can be set free But don't you think they should be set free to mentors? Yeah

[00:36:28] They're never not free That's kind of true with their under the ministry control. No, they're doing they could like subvert that at any moment They do not have to listen to that I think that's like a illusion subvert that it's an illusion. The power is an illusion. Yeah

[00:36:47] No, the illusion is that the dementors are like listening to you because they've just been promised more souls So they're just after the souls Just saying I don't think the mentors ever gonna be like controlled by a human. So do you think that how selves?

[00:37:04] there it's in their nature to serve and so it would be doing them an injustice in order to Set them free. I think it's in their nurture Servants, okay, if it's in their nurture then why don't we cut the nurture out and focus on what they're naturally

[00:37:29] What they naturally should do. Well you could but if you just free all of them right now you need to like Work backwards and like help them out and get them on the right path

[00:37:40] Okay, fascinating question because I want to lead into like a humanitarian question for you right here Let's say there is Let's say let's run. This is a hypothetical. Let's say I am a terrible dictator of a leader and I'm running this country and I

[00:37:57] Completely take over another country. Let's you know, say that country is the Congo and I'm a Belgian leader But Let's say that's happening and I only do it for my own gain and my name is rather than John my name is Leopold

[00:38:13] And I'm doing it for gold. I'm doing it for oil. I'm doing it for slaves I'm doing it because I want to exploit this land and then another King comes in after you let's say you are the benevolent one and What is your responsibility?

[00:38:28] What is your responsibility to The people of the Congo like how do you pull out of the Congo? Do you pull out at all? Because if you pull out if you pull the rug out and you say okay

[00:38:40] We're leaving all of our people here or like we're completely eradicating and leaving it would cause a bit of a mess But is that the best way to do things to just let the people kind of figure things out and like solve the problem?

[00:38:52] This is kind of like some of the problems that we're running into even with like Afghanistan Like our country did we kind of just got up and left and like left them to their own devices and look how that's going

[00:39:03] Yeah, I think I don't want to leave it in a worse state than you found it Environmentalist answer it's like back in your trash or like take out your trash or leave no trace but if you messed up before me, I at least have to

[00:39:24] Have the base level of where you came in like, okay, I don't necessarily want to like Just pull out and make everybody have to fend for themselves and just like yeah, not my issue Goodbye You're like you're free because that's not necessarily true because you're like

[00:39:40] Taking out some of the power that was already given to those people if like I don't know like your country seemed like a bad Ruler, but like maybe they had jobs or whatever like

[00:39:52] Taking that away from them. You're doing them a disservice. So I would at least have to like Give them the positions that like they could function and they could move off of like square one without my help and just be

[00:40:09] Like have a positive life and I have a good Because this is such a fascinating one with ourselves Like with if they should be set free or not And if they should be then how do you actually go about doing that?

[00:40:20] Because Hermione you're probably in some of the chapters where Hermione is starting to pitch the petition for elf rights So you're like, how do you actually attain elf rights?

[00:40:28] Do you just say like all elves are free you do whatever you want because that would cause quite the riot Yeah, but then do you say okay? No, let's set up some systems for you But then in hundreds of years from now

[00:40:39] House elves are gonna look back on these systems that were created by wizards that weren't really created by House elves and they're gonna say why are we abiding by these? These are not good systems for us So it's like sometimes we lose lose

[00:40:50] So it's a fascinating question to me of like how you actually go about doing this and what Hermione would actually do for it Yeah, I don't think Hermione is the person to do anything for it. Interesting that you say that She's from muggles

[00:41:07] so she does not understand the nuance of just having House elves be part of your life or your people maybe that's the best person to take it over and to cause change because maybe

[00:41:24] Wizards don't see their blind spots and they don't realize how unethical this is and she comes in not knowing anything about the situation and she really recognizes it for what it is, which is slavery and but if you take out a

[00:41:37] Kid from a terrible family and say your family's terrible you deserve a better life have utter freedom That's not helping the kid The kid does not know what to do He's never had that before we're talking about a child versus what should be how sales it should be

[00:41:57] Adults being able to make those decisions but house elves are not on the same level as an adult It's crazy All of my muggle like racism This is when the podcast changes Lizzy's gonna give a dark wizard here following Voldemort, maybe I really am a Slytherin

[00:42:19] But I don't think house elves are ready to just pull the rug out from under them and say be free Because even Winky's talking about it like she doesn't want it Yeah, and then yeah, she does not want it either Yeah so

[00:42:31] Which is a another great one because I think you're bringing one of the best points is like what do the what do the? How selves actually want he is getting up to all sorts of hijinks, sir. What is unbecoming to a house elf?

[00:42:47] Like some common goblin so our goblins like better or worse These chapters and especially the next one let's go into the next one because the next one we actually hear a little bit more about like I guess some of like the

[00:43:06] biases that wizards have and some of the fears that wizards have of certain things but it's such like even why you're bringing that up is such a fascinating one to me because What muggles think of wizards is a really fascinating question

[00:43:22] What wizards think of muggles what wizards things of house elves how house elves think of goblins how house elves think of humans? They think of wizards like it's so intermixed and there's so many biases on every single side

[00:43:33] It's like what is the actual truth that if you're to strip away all those kind of things is everyone in the same playing field? Or is there really like a hierarchy in a pecking order our wizards really the highest thing our goblins

[00:43:45] The highest thing is, you know, our house elves really the highest entity who guards green gods are those trolls There are some trolls that are guarding your green gods, but it's like goblins goblins Yeah, but I think it's it's like a foreign

[00:44:03] Concept in a way because like in our world, there's only humans and animals and like that's that we are animals Okay. Well, here we go It's like so yeah I guess I'm anthropocentric in my human superiority because when given the opportunity to save a human or an animal

[00:44:23] I'm gonna save a human. Yeah for sure. So Outside of that there is no other Relationships that I need to navigate like that so I don't know where all these little creatures come into play and if that's even correct because like an

[00:44:38] animal is an animal and then you get into like Well, my dog's more important than like your pet snail like That's all relative Is it? Yeah Yes Some animals are harmful a sentience and I guess like amount

[00:45:01] Like I guess ants you can never know you everyone kills ants whenever they walk around really but that's it, that's a fascinating one because I'm thinking of What are our morals actually? What is like our actual moral compass look like? I think we're right in order to

[00:45:24] Save a human over an animal But I think of I mean, I think dogs are like the purest souls that we are given on earth And if I think of like I'm thinking through this situation like say I am drowning a lake drowning in a lake

[00:45:38] Versus like another dog is further down another another portion of lake and another dog is drowning at that portion of lake. I Think Wes would probably try to save me rather than the other dog

[00:45:48] and so it's like humans saving their own species, but a dog goes and saves a person who that he has a closer relationship with so That is another fascinating one to me of like What is actual because we are animals? but What is the right? morality

[00:46:13] Look like in that situation I almost want to go down the animal list and see at which point an Animal doesn't save either you or the dog. Yeah, just save themselves Reservation and then that's like the animals that we can deem like lower

[00:46:29] Interesting. I like that actually I like that distinction. They don't have like these animals suck all the rest of our cool Cuz then they're not they don't have relationship I guess Connection yeah, that's a which is your sentient. Yeah, I guess sentience is really

[00:46:49] But there's things like have you seen the video of the guy getting a dust off a spider and the spider like lifts up His leg after he realizes that the humans like helping him out

[00:47:00] Then he goes leg by leg and the guys like freaking out in the background like no way The spider totally gets what I'm doing like he knows I'm helping So I think there's so much more to the animal king agreed and

[00:47:12] untapped yes potential for relationship that I don't want to have relationship with a spider Yeah, but and there's cute and cuddly things that we can have relationships with like dogs

[00:47:23] But then there's also these things like like octopuses are some of the octopi. Yeah are some of the most brilliant Creatures that exist but no one really wants to have a relationship with an octopus But they're brilliant Moving on to the dark mark chapter 9

[00:47:47] Any questions about the dark mark or any I'll give me a quick some of your the dark mark Oh, I think you said you'll give me a quick summary. No you give me a quick summary all right

[00:47:58] The gang settles down for the night only to be awoken to death eaters making a scene torturing muggles The trio flees to the woods where the dark mark is cast above them And they are suddenly caught up in the middle of a bunch of Ministry of Magic officials

[00:48:10] Winky is found holding Harry's wand the dark mark has not been cast for 13 years Which is crazy so since Harry? Was attempted to kill the dark mark I think that's what the book is about Which is crazy so since Harry Mm-hmm was attempted to be killed yes

[00:48:29] Or since Voldemort attempted his go yeah Avada Kedavra Whatever is not say that out loud No, that's the killing curse about a cadaver is a killing curse. There's another one. That is the How you cast the dark mark some little different?

[00:48:46] What do you think of the dark mark? I think it's really cool kind of like I don't like that people are getting killed Back to my normal morals here. She's back everyone um, but I do think that's kind of an awesome way to like Like incite fear Wow

[00:49:07] Like that's so cool like you just kill someone then boom the whole sky is like a skull yeah, and Mr.. Weasley had an awesome paragraph about that like yes, how that's so scary the last time people saw that was when Harry Was gonna be killed he says

[00:49:26] Oh Ron goes. I don't get it said her on frowning. I mean It's still only a shape in the sky Ron You know who and his followers sent the dark mark into the air whenever they killed said mr. Weasley the terror it inspired you have no idea

[00:49:48] You're too young Just picture coming home from work and finding the dark mark hovering over your house and knowing what you're about to find inside Mr.. Weasley winced everyone's worst fears the very worst

[00:50:01] There were silence for a moment then bill removing the sheet from his arm to check on his cut said Well, it didn't help us tonight whoever conjured it We scared the Death Eaters way the moment

[00:50:11] They saw they all disapparated before we got near enough to unmask any of them. We caught the Robertses Before they hit the ground though, we're having their memories modified right now Death Eaters said Harry what are Death Eaters?

[00:50:26] It's what you know who supporters called themselves said bill I Think we saw what's left of them tonight the ones who managed to keep themselves at Azkaban anyway But I love that paragraph is mr. Weasley like really gets it and the kids don't get it

[00:50:41] It's awesome. I know There's a lot of cool things in this chapter to like they use a spell called prairie and can taught them To like cast the previous spell out of the wand

[00:50:54] Yeah, right just like sucks it back out of the line you're like oh you use this one But do you know what's what is what is going on in this chapter like cuz there's a bunch of stuff happening What are some questions that you have?

[00:51:05] Well, they put the people under the Imperius curse. I'm guessing after hearing about that from Maddai Okay, that was my thought what people the Muggles Okay, so they put them under the Imperius curse interesting. Okay, is that correct?

[00:51:24] In part yeah, yeah, we'll definitely learn more about that later I Thought it was crazy how the whole like all the 20 Ministry of Magic people operated in a second and Right about right there. Yeah, and then Harry just ducked but

[00:51:45] That seems like such a scary way to do that like stand in the circle Yeah Yeah, I think Harry should have like his own Dark mark type of thing where like he can have a sign that like oh my scars hurting or

[00:52:04] Like Voldemort's near and then boom all these ministry people operate and then that's a great idea as a self Protection type of thing. That's actually a really good idea

[00:52:13] Because if they have the capability to do that, I didn't realize that they could all just like boom show up But Harry needs that imagine But Harry needs that imagine he goes down in the Chamber of Secrets does his little help me thing boom everybody's there

[00:52:32] He gets it like touch touch anytime he touches a scar it's an immediate all the Wizards in the Ministry of Magic just operate right on Tim. What do you need Harry? They could make him a spell

[00:52:44] That he that would actually be brilliant that would solve so many problems in this book Harry has this spell that he uses or like cast something into the air that he just solves all his safety spell. I

[00:52:54] Don't get how Ron Hermione and Harry are so chill about this whole thing in the woods They're just like walking through the woods. Yeah, it's no big deal It is pretty wild and they've never seen this before

[00:53:06] So I guess there's part of them that they don't understand what's happening But if I've never seen it before I'm just reading about it. I don't want to be there. Yeah Completely agree, that's completely agree. There is something about this that like Being in the woods

[00:53:27] Like I've never experienced something quite as scary as being alone in the middle of the woods like sleeping alone in the middle of woods and That there's like some of the same

[00:53:38] Feelings that you get even if you're with a bunch of people and something terrible like this is happening Like there's definitely some of those feelings like you're any after at or at any tree

[00:53:46] You feel like something could pop out and like terrify you or like kill you or something like that so there's even like all these lines like I She writes this in a really good way because there's a lot of tension

[00:53:57] But she should have put more attention in some of this but she even has like this line like a rustling noise Made all three of them jump Winky the house elf was fighting her way out of the out of a clump of bushes nearby

[00:54:08] She was moving in a most peculiar fashion apparently with great difficulty It was as though some someone invisible were trying to hold her back And it's like weird lines like that that you're like, what the heck is going on there with winky?

[00:54:21] But like I love that any any quick moment Makes these three jump because that's exactly what anybody would do in that situation if you're in the middle of the dark woods You hear anything you're like

[00:54:32] It's like freaky there is a lot of people around them to the for sure Yeah, yeah scary What are the questions you have in this chapter or what are some of your notes? I think crouch is really suspicious Yeah, I don't know what to think about that

[00:54:54] Because he's like he doesn't he's gonna punish winky. Mm-hmm but I Don't know like he just is on the wrong Track with talking to everybody in this whole like

[00:55:10] Judgment of who did it? Yeah the thing. I don't know. He's just very he's shifty. Yeah, I don't trust him yet but then bagman in He's like confused in the woods and he has this moment where he's like confused and then he shows up late this whole thing

[00:55:30] Yeah, so then I also don't really trust him Either so, I don't know why they're both being weird So and you don't even know that you're playing the book who you trust you're cuz you're a chapter 18 You don't know who you trust more or less. I know

[00:55:46] It's great if I trust them. Yeah, you just have it all but um Crouch says this line I have no use for a servant who forgets what is due to her master and to her masters reputation and That seems like something Voldemort would say

[00:56:03] Dang, so I just wonder if crouch had somebody say something like that to him or in his presence and maybe crouch was like a death eater or messed around with Voldemort and I don't know because he's pretty he's in the ministry

[00:56:22] But apparently the ministry's been infiltrated in past. Yeah, and especially with the Imperius curse like people are functioning without Knowing it or without their own will so that kind of made me doubt everything after hearing about that for sure You'll get more information about that later

[00:56:43] That's definitely one world we'll talk about but the suspicion of crouch and bagman is You're exactly where J and where Joe wants you to be She's like casting suspicion on these characters

[00:56:56] And she casts a bunch of suspicion on all these other characters that are happening up and that are popping up in here And she's confusing you Yeah, cuz I don't want to just take the bait and be like he showed up late. Yeah, right

[00:57:08] He cast the spell. Yeah, but at the same time I can't trust you. Yeah for sure Yeah Like why did he show up late if you're not just trying to take the bait? You're like, okay What was his actual reason for showing up late?

[00:57:20] What is crouch doing like when he is he looking for winky at that one moment? Like what does he actually do it and crouch wasn't even at the World Cup. Yeah game. Yep so Mr. Weasley says that half the muggle killings back when you were when

[00:57:44] Can't read every time I try to read out loud in the podcast I'll just cut that out. I'll cut out any four point So if you mess up just start from scratch and I'll just cut it out cut out every single time I say like Normal human speech

[00:57:59] Try I feel like I've said like so many times. Oh, you haven't okay The point said mr. Weasley with a hollow laugh Harry That's their idea of fun half the muggle killings back when you know who was in power were done for fun

[00:58:11] I suppose they had a few drinks and a few beers Empowered were done for fun. I suppose they had a few drinks tonight and couldn't resist reminding us all that Lots of them are still at large a nice little reunion for them That is crazy

[00:58:25] So dark, so how many just muggles are dying all the time back in? the days So any Death Eater can kill anybody in the name of old war and then just cast the death

[00:58:39] Mark yeah, that's they were doing because it was it was instilling such fear into people and That mark has such fear because of what they were doing They were just going around killing people who they wanted to it was as you want it to be it was

[00:58:53] These people these wizards Exerting their power over muggles and like really horrifying ways and Everyone was petrified of this dark mark because you knew is a sign of death. So like It's some of the best branding that's ever existed in the world

[00:59:14] Which is like tragic, but it's like they only use it at the perfect time So this mark instills so much fear into people Honestly, there isn't another like mark that just instills fear into people like this one

[00:59:26] it's like people talk about, you know, the swastika maybe but like the swastika like It's not a fearful mark it's just like what they the this Order as colors were and there what their flag was With this it's like anytime you see that mark, you know

[00:59:43] Someone's died and you know, you think it might be someone that I know if it was over your house You're like, okay, that's it. My family's dead. I Wouldn't even want to go inside. Yeah, no Chance say goodbye. Yeah Yeah, so that's like they're achieving my

[01:00:03] Wizard only world thing. I don't like that. I'm against what I said in the previous podcast Okay, good. I'm glad I'm glad we got there I'm glad that I'm glad that uh, you're against that now I didn't think it would last long

[01:00:22] Anything else in this chapter before you hit the last one which is mayhem with the mystery I'm confused as to why some spells are harder than others and why like Winky couldn't have done that. I guess winky is a house elf

[01:00:45] So I don't expect her to be good at magic But even when they're saying Harry Potter couldn't have done that it takes a very powerful wizard things like that or the killing spell

[01:00:56] It's like yeah, mad. I was like you everyone can cast it on me right now, and I'm not gonna die. I don't understand It's what we learned in book three with the Patronus charm

[01:01:08] this is a weird one because every single spell that they learn they have to learn this and there's I have debate in my mind I'm not sure if there's actually a debate in the community

[01:01:19] for how this actually works if it's like riding a bike or if it's like once you Or if it's like you have to focus every single time on something. I think different spells are different differently attained so like Wingardium Leviosa to me is like

[01:01:36] You learn the spell and it has a lot to do with the movement of your wand Like if you're moving your wand in the right way So Wingardium Leviosa is is levitating

[01:01:46] So you like levitate something and it has a lot to do with how you say it and the wand motion of how you move your wand in midair and that's like you don't have to think of any like

[01:01:59] Happy thoughts when you're doing that the Patronus is different and the Patronus is like a spell that you have to keep You have to maintain So you have to maintain happy thoughts when you're doing this

[01:02:09] So it's a much more difficult spell to do and there's for sure like Moody talks about this later in the chapters where? you have to Really want to kill someone in order for that spell to work. It wouldn't just work on like anybody

[01:02:25] You really really have to mean it and none of those students probably at that time really really hate someone enough They would they would they would mean it yeah, so there's like the intention behind it, but then there's also the

[01:02:41] Spells that are more practical and it's yeah the way you wave your wand. I think so And I think I think there's a little bit of an intention behind it But I think there's some spells that are just more difficult than others. It's like, you know

[01:02:56] Like learning any Random skill I guess we have so like riding a bike is I mean it's like easy now like but once you know how to ride A bike, you know how to ride a bike. I

[01:03:05] Guess it's the same for like any of those random things like, you know jumping out a pogo stick I don't know I mean, I'm sure some people are like, you know good at that immediately

[01:03:14] But when I was a kid, I tried that and I couldn't do that really well But then you get better at it and you just keep practicing and you keep so that's kind of what I equate it to you Just keep practicing practicing at certain things

[01:03:24] but there are definitely some spells that are harder than others to master because it takes some kind of like Maybe more focus. Hmm a clarity of mind. Yeah. There you go. There you go. I love that Yeah

[01:03:40] Let's do the last chapter which is mayhem at the ministry really quick because not a ton happens in this chapter be completely honest Yeah, give me a quick summary of this one. I don't have a summary for this. Yeah, this one is literally just as it says

[01:03:52] There's mayhem at the ministry Amos diggory contacts. Mr. Weasley through the fire. Yeah we hear about Mad I for the first time and There's a big mystery about what's gonna happen at Hogwarts Which is the Triwizard tournament? Yeah, yeah for sure

[01:04:11] But yeah like when Amos pops up in the fire I think that is the next chapter Yeah, that's that's chapter 11 Not a ton happens in chapter 10. So I'll cut this all out

[01:04:26] But all that happens in chapter 10 is there's a bunch of mayhem and they're still at their campsite and they at Kind of the end of the chapter they just go back so it's like essentially a continuation of the other one Oh

[01:04:38] Harry tells Ron and Hermione his scars been hurting. Yeah life at the borough dress robes cool clock. Yeah You paranoid all the time I Don't want to be on that clock. Yeah, no, no, thank you So there's one thing that I want to discuss in this and

[01:05:05] Maybe it's a little depressing but I like depressing things. What else is now? I know there you go. It says this Mrs. Wentman mrs. Weasley sees the kids she says I shouted at you before you left. Mrs. Weasley said starting to sob It's all I've been thinking about

[01:05:22] What if you know who had got you and the last thing I ever said to you was you didn't get enough? OWLs Oh Fred George Do you remember the last thing that you ever said to a person

[01:05:37] What I know it's a morbid question. Um, well like any grandparents or any like Someone like one of the last things you said even like to a friend that you remember that you just like not that you lost

[01:05:49] Or that died but like that you just ran out of touch with or like Goodbye, I don't think so. I don't I'm not present like that. Yeah In those moments is almost impossible to keep track of some of that stuff in your head

[01:06:03] I've had someone come back to me after years and say this is the last thing I said to you. I'm sorry Wow And I didn't remember it didn't matter to me and just live in life yeah, and it I think it just kind of like a

[01:06:22] Her up a little bit for a while, but I don't know. I have not Nothing comes to mind that I have like that's good. That's healthy a big last moment with someone That's kind of nice. Do you know? Not really? I Remember some of the last moments

[01:06:42] That I had with my Grandpa who was like the greatest guy. I loved him I remember some of the last moments that I had with him before he passed away, but it was just because

[01:06:54] We were taking to the hospital and he was like loopy and he was on drugs And he was like, but he had like moments of clarity when we were in the car So I remember driving him there and he was like all over the place

[01:07:06] But then he'd like look at me and like you'd ask me a question It was like an intense and I just never like hanging out with him and Knowing in my head that this was the last time I was ever gonna get to hang out with him

[01:07:16] Because then we all knew he was going to the hospital and he was gonna pass away in the hospital it was like everyone just felt it so I Remember in the car just being there and like time just felt like it was going so fast

[01:07:28] But so slow at the same time I was able to like savor that moment to a point where it was really really sweet and that's forever etched into my head I

[01:07:38] Don't remember a ton of the things that we talked about or things that I said to him or things that he said to me But I just remember that moment and then I remember When we got out of the car, we helped him into the wheelchair

[01:07:49] We wheeled him into the hospital and that was the last I ever saw him So I remember that was sad, but it's so etched into my brain. Yeah Now that you bring that up. I remember

[01:08:00] Like I had that with my grandma and I was like a kid so I don't remember I Still don't remember much of her life. Mm-hmm, and I'm the youngest on that side of the family So it's like everyone else has these memories with her

[01:08:16] Yeah, like it's this big everyone reminisces all the time and I kind of miss out on that but I remember visiting her in the hospital and she had like These balloons that were tied down to this little stuffed animal

[01:08:30] That had like a weight in it and then I she gave me this stuffed animal and I kept it forever and it was so nice That's so sweet. Yeah, I also my first like existential

[01:08:42] Like moments of life and death. I had an aunt who's not really my aunt but she's Aunt Lizzie yeah, and I was like little Lizzie and I not like necessarily named after her but I Mean I was like probably like five years old like I was tiny and

[01:09:00] we would visit her in the hospital and it was so just like such a strange experience like looking at her and being like this is Lizzie and she's a hundred plus years old. I think she's like 104 Wow

[01:09:13] And I was like and I'm Lizzie and like this is just the beginning in the end Then like I was like five years old And it just like hit me and I feel like I still think about that all the time

[01:09:25] That's actually pretty profound. But yeah, cuz I was like, this is the beginning and like I'm Lizzie. This is Lizzie We're the same Wow a five-year-old having an existential crisis like that. That's like so That's wild and I remember

[01:09:41] Looking up at her in the hospital bed. Like that's how tiny it was that the bed was like higher than me So, I don't know she read my card you had to go right up to her face so she could Man

[01:09:59] Well on that sad note, thanks for joining us on a whole and let's use it. What's your favorite moment and your favorite? your favorite character I'm gonna say my favorite moment is Is The burrow chapters where they're just living together. Yeah, actually my favorite moment is when

[01:10:22] Mrs. Weasley gives Ron her the robes Yeah, and Ron's like I just rather go naked and then she's like take a picture I Say I'll say Ron again is my favorite. Yeah, Ron's a great one of these ones. I

[01:10:43] kind of love Ron too, so I'm gonna say Ron the same because he really is like the a Huge source of information because it's crazy He has lived in the wizarding world for so long

[01:10:53] But he doesn't know what the dark mark is and like he gets all this stuff explained to him So he's fascinating and that he shows like what a wizard growing growing up really knows and understands And I think you learned so much from in these chapters

[01:11:06] And I think my favorite moment is like the pre Quidditch tournament when they're just like hanging out and there's like a buzz in the air and like everyone's excited about the game and I Love moments like that. So It's my favorite

[01:11:20] Well, thanks for joining us on our journey of Harry Potter and the second time reader peace You