Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: Ch 28-31

[00:00:00] Hello, welcome to the podcast. I'm Jon. I'm Lizzie. This is Harry Potter and the First Time Readers You have finished the book can you tell me if you actually like it or not? I love it. It got a hundred times better. Yeah

[00:00:26] Really? Yeah, it's like a completely different book in the second half than the first half. Yeah So where did this rank on your like list? I would say probably first now. Dang You were so down in this book early on But it's more intense than Prisoner of Azkaban

[00:00:48] So because of all that and just like the depth of the plot, yeah, like that makes it go up to first. Yeah Yeah, like builds the world that lulls you into sleep halfway through because you're like what is where is this even going?

[00:01:01] And then all of a sudden the last ten chapters just are like rapid-fire Get ready cuz all of them are all of them were like that 28 okay. So 28 is the madness. We're gonna start with 28 28 is the madness of mr. Crouch Do you remember anything about this chapter

[00:01:21] Yes, but I can't put it into words So this was a funny one because Was it the previous podcast or just in text? I think it was a voice memo you sent cuz you were like I hate mr crouch yada yada yada

[00:01:37] Yeah, I have mixed feelings about crouch but now I feel like knowing everything it's hard to discern like where I was thinking what about Him. Yeah, but yeah, I mean I was definitely confused I was she got me in here with all these people with moody crouch

[00:01:55] Yes, crazy crouch jr. It's good Yeah, crouch jr. Is evil. Yeah, he's pure evil. You were like, I love moody so much He's a great teacher to be completely honest I'm intrigued to like meet who moody actually is in the textbook because obviously he was

[00:02:15] Similar to his real personality if he was able to like yeah, he pulled something off. Yeah, but Man, I was like so sobbing when it when moody was possessed I So this chapter was I gotta find actual

[00:02:38] Sometimes I got to refresh my memory on some of these chapters the madness of mr. Crouch He appears in the forest yeah Okay, so yeah this one was an interesting one so

[00:02:58] This is when they go down to the kitchens Winky's all there and she's like drunk and she's going crazy I didn't realize butter beer was like alcoholic. Like why are the kids? Yeah, I thought it was just gonna be like root beer and then Winky is like

[00:03:12] Totally wasted. I was like what is going on part of me thinks that it's still like non-alcoholic, but It was it is like root beer and maybe she gets like drunk on the sugar or something like that

[00:03:26] She's a house elf and she can't take it. Isn't Dobby like oh, it's like more powerful for a house. Oh, yeah No, cuz Harry said it's not that strong. Yeah, it's not that strong So 2% the amount of underage drinking in this is pretty wild

[00:03:39] But I think people have said this on our podcast or people have like explain this to me in In British culture. It's a lot less weird Not just like underage drinking, but they just like parents are giving their kids stuff to drink all the time

[00:03:52] But that was a funny little part I'll talk about some things in that and then this was funny because in this chapter Crumb and Harry are You know wandering talking about Hermione any and then all of a sudden they find an unconscious. Mr. Crouch or mr. Crouch

[00:04:11] No, mr. Crouch comes out of nowhere and starts like grilling them with not questions, but it seems weird and off Yeah, then Harry runs up they come back and they realize that crotch is gone. He attacked crumb in

[00:04:23] I'll spoil a little bit of the movie when you said that when you texted me and you're like I Mr. Crouch is like so terrible or you're like, mr. Crouch is great and his son is so terrible or what was the thing?

[00:04:37] Cuz no, this is funny I think you texted me and you were like, mr. Crouch, I can't believe he did that to his son He's just like he's so awfully so terrible and in my head. I was like does she not know? Mr. Crouch is died

[00:04:51] In the movie they portray it where he's dead at that point where they walk into the forest and he's dead But he's like talking to them. Yeah, he's talking to them in the books

[00:05:01] And the movies it doesn't happen but that's a huge part of the plot I know this Yeah, you just be be ready for disappointment in this movie this well, that's sad because this movie I'm the most excited about yeah

[00:05:12] They were gonna make this movie in the two movies and they ended up just smooshing it into one There's lots of problems on this they skip over half the plot. It's not great I had my suspicions though that Moody

[00:05:23] Like did something with crouch in the woods. I was like, okay Moody. Where did he come from? He's here too fast and he just said oh like Snape told me but I definitely thought that was suspicious

[00:05:34] I did not expect like the rest of the plot. Yeah, I'd be what it was but That kind of I was like, okay I don't know about that and then I definitely knew he was like imperious and he was like barely

[00:05:47] Like I felt like he was barely breaking through an Imperious curse and I was like either he's talking to Voldemort in like his mind somewhere Yeah, or he's actually present and like talking to Harry, but yeah, it's really weird

[00:06:00] When so even there's before that with Winky on the top of a winky for a second when we key has this line where she says master is Trusting Winky with the most important the most secret. So she's drunk when she's saying this

[00:06:14] But do you get that line now What is master trusting Winky with? Yeah, yeah, I didn't get that at that point. I just thought Winky I kind of sweep Winky under the rug I'm like, I don't know what she's talking about

[00:06:29] but she doesn't know what she's talking about either because I was like maybe the house elf just thinks like Any little fact about him is like some big secret

[00:06:38] Yeah, that is crazy and actually I kind of hate Winky for that because I get that she's just forced to do her job yeah, but I really hate Winky that you had to like

[00:06:47] Keep all this secret and like I don't know she could have prevented some of the Dark Lord rising. Yeah, I know I know but She's a House elves are just interesting in general and She's a really interesting one their loyalty

[00:07:07] They're the most loyal creatures. I feel like in the wizarding world So Judging them on I Guess wizard or witch or human Perspectives is tough Because I think in their nature they're just loyal

[00:07:28] So even though it's like not right or not, correct, they're still loyal to certain people They just have to absorb the morals. Yeah Master. Yeah. Yeah, but Davi broke free from that

[00:07:39] Yeah, Dombey Davi is an anomaly and they even talk about that in this chapter Davi is just like Different from all house elves. Do you think Davi knew what was going on with Winky?

[00:07:50] No, that's why they were like all buddy buddy and maybe he was like come on Winky like tell a lie Maybe Maybe Davi's trying to coax Winky into being more like him. Yeah, I don't know if Davi necessarily wants to do that

[00:08:02] I think he's just kind of like in His own world a little bit That's an interesting one though You mentioned something and a previous podcast too with uh, that was hilarious to me because I think you were like Rita

[00:08:21] Needs to just like, you know become an animagus and fly I was so happy Yeah, she's a beetle. I was so close I was like you really missed the opportunity with the mosquito thing That was that was a great prediction that maybe sweat a little bit

[00:08:48] But that was hilarious because you kind of nailed it because in this whole book You're like how the heck does Rita know anything and then all of a sudden it comes out that she is Secretively a beetle you passed the animagus test

[00:08:59] That felt like a little obvious to me though. Just knowing that in a magus exists I was like it has to be that yeah, cuz I don't know I guess there could be other magic that you could invent but I

[00:09:12] Didn't get what she was doing like talking to Malfoy outside where they're like, oh he has a walkie-talkie. Yeah, I didn't know what that was but I don't know It was interesting and then Hermione just keeps her in the jar That is uh

[00:09:30] That is one of the funniest things from book Hermione to movie Hermione movie Hermione has none of like the Insanity that book Hermione does yeah, Hermione is like a little bit like a little bit like a little bit like a little

[00:09:41] Money is literally keeping her in a jar like the end of this It's so ridiculous that she actually does that Hermione is pretty hard-headed like when she gets an idea

[00:09:53] She just goes with it and like she'll push it really far. I think in the trio who's your favorite out of the trio? right now Okay. Well, I feel like Harry probably but I I would say Hermione more than Ron like at this

[00:10:21] What other do you have any other notes in this chapter the madness of mr. Crouch I thought it was really Like the way that Dumbledore Communicated to Hagrid that he was in the forest. He like sent some blast of light into his cabin. I thought that was cool

[00:10:41] Okay, what was that? I don't know like a Patronus or something. Okay, cuz it wasn't Lumos No, it wasn't Lumos. Is that like should I know what that is at this point? Cuz it said like a silver thing

[00:10:56] Yeah, so as he raised his wand into the air and pointed it in the direction of Hagrid's cabin Harry saw something silvery dart out of it and streak away through the trees like a ghostly bird

[00:11:06] ghostly bird is it his I don't know if you can just do a Patronus but like if his Patronus is a Phoenix that would be cool. Hmm. That's like the only bird that I could think of Cuz I think you need to be in danger

[00:11:26] Well, does a Patronus only work on a Dementor? Like is there other reasons to have a Patronus that's a great question. Why would there be other reasons? To protect you like can it just If there's danger in front of you

[00:11:42] Can you just cast a Patronus and it just take away whatever danger or no because in the well the maze I Am sorry for gaslighting you but this whole podcast will be me gaslighting you But he does a Patronus and it's a Bogart yeah, and it doesn't work

[00:12:09] Yeah, which makes me think that that across the board It doesn't work, but I don't know Harry was learning how to do Patronus on a Bogart though in book three But I didn't do it on a Dementor But it took the shape of a Dementor

[00:12:26] Yeah, but that's the same thing as a as the Bogart Maybe the Patronus sees Only works Because that the only other thing that's silver that's coming out of wands right now is

[00:12:43] Thoughts and he's not just like he's guessing. Yeah, how do you know that his thoughts might take the fate and shape of a Phoenix? That actually that would be sweet. Yeah spirit animal but yeah, like Maybe he's just sending a little message where it's like telepathy like

[00:12:59] My brain to yours. It's kind of cool. I don't know what that is I don't think it's that meaningful to be honest. It is a cool bit of magic though

[00:13:07] There's there's parts of these books where you just don't see magic like you've ever seen it and this is one of those were like You send something out as one. That's like a silvery ghostly bird Like what is going on there? What kind of magic is that?

[00:13:21] Will we find out? Mm-hmm. Okay, so then it probably is important The other thing that was really cute was Um When Hagrid realized that like Hermione and crumb were together

[00:13:34] He was like you can't be doing that. Like he got all protective of Hermione and I thought that was so sweet yeah, cuz there's the one chapter where they're just like

[00:13:44] What are we gonna do today? And they just go to Hagrid's all day long. I'm just like I love him so much Yeah Hagrid Hagrid is a lovely person in these books. I

[00:13:55] Know you said you don't like favorites, but do you have a favorite person in the books? Like out of everyone. Yeah serious Still yeah, I honestly I still almost want to say moody even though I know it's not moody, but I really like moody

[00:14:13] Yeah, I don't know that would be like my only options but I feel like moody is not moody so I can't say yeah It is pretty similar. So there's like a point to it where Crouch jr. Really released

[00:14:23] That's why he kept moody around to like study his behaviors and study how he talked and study like what he was doing So what you saw in moody this book is I feel like really close to what moody actually is like

[00:14:34] So maybe maybe he'll pop up another book. So we'll see it We'll see if he comes back and we'll we'll talk about it more. He does Okay, chapter 29 is the dream and in this chapter Harry has a dream

[00:14:56] So he preps for the third task and then he essentially just has a has a dream What is the dream about? I'm trying to remember what the dream is about. I keep thinking of the dream that it's

[00:15:08] Back to chapter one where he's seen that but I don't think it's that dream. Mm-hmm He dreams of flying on an owl into a house inside of which Voldemort is reprimanding Wormtail or having made some mistake noting that some unnamed

[00:15:23] He is dead before telling that he would soon have Harry Serious sends a letter and he signs it as serious after being like only call And it honestly I was like so aware of everything at this point that I was like maybe it's not serious

[00:15:43] Like he broke the code and it's like it's not him But yeah, if he ever spells his name or uses the name that's when you know, it's not him. Exactly But yeah, this was like I'm assuming this part where

[00:15:59] Wormtail messed something up is when he had to kill Bertha Okay, is that right? Cuz like I finished the book Yeah Timeline is still like so foggy on this today

[00:16:10] and I was looking that up a little bit because people were like can this timeline actually be real and Did she just make a mistake and everything but somebody said it could work so I trust that Redditor This one I gotta I'm trying to remember this one

[00:16:32] So he falls asleep in divination class Okay, so there's a there's a really weird note I'm not a weird note in this chapter, but I'm kind of like a funny little line where it says Maybe he didn't want you to get there sit around quickly

[00:16:45] Maybe hang on how fast do you think you could have reckoned? How do you how fast you reckon he could have gotten down to the forest? Do you reckon he could have beaten you in Dumbledore there? Unless he can turn himself into a bat or something said Harry

[00:16:57] so they're talking about Snape here and they're saying if Snape went down and Was the one that attacked crumb? Do you think that saves the bat? If He was an animal that would be a good choice for him do you think it's Patronus is a bat?

[00:17:15] What do you think is Patronus is? Yeah, honestly a bat something spooky probably like a snake that would be crazy, okay Something that feels dark Okay, like what's a dark animal like Orca a killer whale Um, no, I like the bat idea a lot

[00:17:41] Because he's like kind of bat like okay. So he's wearing dark robes his greasy hair Do you why don't you like bagman? Well, I thought bagman was the gonna be the main like bad guy. Yes

[00:17:57] so that I got really confused about because I remember saying oh, I think Bagman is behind the whole Quidditch tournament thing and Imperius winky, but then it's actually crouch Junior under a invisibility cloak. Yeah, which is wild. Yeah this it gets really dark

[00:18:18] I feel like that's so messed up to like Imperius your son and then the whole potion that Voldemort makes I know like it just drops off I know It's wild

[00:18:30] I know and that's why you get even more dark stuff in the next chapter because that's when most people Really discover that they hate crouch senior is in the next chapter, which is the pensive

[00:18:41] Because he's like presiding over his son's trial and he has like he looks like he's out for blood And he doesn't even have any compassion on his son. So it that chapter you're like, oh man

[00:18:51] I feel so bad for crouch junior and then at the end you're like I freaking hate this. I hate him I know I hate everyone in this book and then you're just kind of being like led by her writing

[00:19:01] That's what I'm just like, it's just like a real thing. Should I actually dislike these people? In a serious letter he says there's someone there's somebody highly dangerous at Hogwarts It's clear to me

[00:19:13] They wanted you to stop crouch from seeing Dumbledore and you were probably feet away from them in the dark You could have been killed. So does serious know who's Like who Moody actually is in this because Dumbledore doesn't know who he is serious doesn't either

[00:19:30] So I'm assuming Dumbledore and serious are having all these little side meetings cuz Dumbledore knows he's in Hogsmeade And like they're communicating a lot, I guess Mmm, probably not a ton of side meetings, but they're probably having some

[00:19:46] Maybe to discuss certain things. We're sending letters in some way That's an interesting one I've never I don't think it's like explicit that they're having a lot of meetings They probably aren't like meeting a ton, but maybe Sending some letters to each other

[00:19:59] But not the crazy thing is both of them were blindsided by this like Dumbledore who is the greatest wizard of all time Is blindsided by the fact that Moody is Spartacus jr. Like you didn't see that coming easy

[00:20:12] Yeah, how does it even happen? He's a party crash jr. Is a great He like covered all his basis with this like his magical prowess is impressive So is it when Moody can see through invisibility cloaks? Is that a trait of Moody or that's because

[00:20:29] Crouch is such a like crouch jr. Is such a powerful wizard. It's a trade of his eye Okay, and but he had his eye like how does that work great question? He stabbed out his eyeball. That's a great question Never I know

[00:20:44] Cuz it said somewhere was like he took his leg and he took his eye my my understanding would be when you take Polly just potion, I guess one of your eyes just like Goes into non-being

[00:20:55] Not it pops back in so there's probably like a gap. So he probably just takes Moody's eye and then pops it in and it works Yeah, it's pretty gross Yeah, it was interesting to me how all of the people like serious

[00:21:15] Dumbledore McGonagall like they don't actually know entirely what's happening either. Yeah, and they think they're being Protective or they're being very prepared for all this but they really don't know what's happening. Yeah, like they're just going on

[00:21:31] Whatever hunch they have. Yeah, to be honest, that's like scary too because they're going on whatever hunch they have They have no real idea of what's going on and they're all blindsided at the end of this where they they really like

[00:21:46] The whole tournament is a little crazy, but there's so much I Don't want to talk about who's responsible for Cedric's death but that's like it's like a tragic point where Cedric dies at the end because

[00:21:58] Not because like the teachers were irresponsible or anything like that because they just didn't see some of the signs that were happening They just couldn't piece things together. Yeah, it's impossible probably to piece any any of these things together, but I'm curious

[00:22:09] There's like after this book not just after this book but an all of Hogwarts I feel like there should be a Like an aptitude test for teachers Like you drink veritaserum or something like that and like you have to swear an oath or something like that

[00:22:24] Just so we know that you're a legitimate Legitimate person because probably this is not maybe not rampant But like how are they not double-checking to make sure this teacher is actually the correct teacher. I feel like the normal Procedure in real life is more

[00:22:41] Like stringent. Yeah. Yeah, we have so so many more restrictions in our educational system than Hogwarts says I wrote doesn't care Dumbledore doesn't yeah Dumbledore doesn't care. Yeah Yeah, you should probably like look in the mirror and like tell us what you actually see

[00:22:58] Like do you actually want take some truth serum? Mm-hmm answer like a list of all these questions Like in the first book all of a sudden quarrel who used to never wear a turban and all of a sudden comes to school fully draped in a turban

[00:23:11] Maybe it's insensitive. You're like, um, can you undo that turban just so we can double-check? You're not confiscating anything into the castle. Oh, you're confiscating Lord Voldemort into the castle I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah, like I don't know Like necessarily plot holes, but it is just like hello. Yeah

[00:23:31] Yeah. Yep. We're like you have to just stay in a room for like 24 hours without any access to like Drinking you can't drink anything Cuz that this school it just seems massively irresponsible for letting this guy in Who like elected Dumbledore?

[00:23:55] The school governors is that that's not the original like founders, right? There's no people many many years Yeah, the original founders were years and years and years before that So there's been tons of headmasters in between them

[00:24:08] But the the school governors are like the you know, the Board of Education or whatever So Dumbledore was a professor there and he taught you know what he taught Alberts No, it's not transfiguration

[00:24:22] He's a great transfiguration teacher and he taught it for a while and then he took up the post of headmaster after that There's lots more involved in that but we'll talk about that another time

[00:24:39] Chapter 30 anything else in chapter 29 or you go to chapter 30 chapter 30 is a juicy one. It's a really good one It's the pensive where Harry sneaks some memories into the pensive

[00:24:51] I was waiting for this chapter so much because you were asking so many questions in the previous podcast at all these different people Like just wait until this chapter. This is the one where you get a lot of information

[00:25:01] This is like the first big information dump. I feel like yeah explains a lot of stuff Yep, but I want a pensive so bad. Yeah, that would be incredible. I'll be the best thing ever. So cool but I don't like how

[00:25:15] Like you see all these thoughts that Dumbledore has but there's no actual conclusion Which kind of made me nervous because I was like he has all these thoughts But he's not even like piecing them together super well

[00:25:28] And that kind of scared me because I was like Dumbledore doesn't know what's happening either. Yeah, and then it comes back Right at the end where all these things kind of intertwine and like Dumbledore is talking to Harry

[00:25:39] But I was like, oh he doesn't even know like he's just taking all these random ideas that he has Yeah, it's like oh, maybe that will maybe that's something That is a great point

[00:25:49] It is a little bit unnerving to know that Dumbledore doesn't really have a grasp on the situation Because in the other books he kind of does seem to have a grasp on the situation even though there's terrible things happening

[00:25:57] He's like still in control and so at least knows some of the stuff that's gonna happen in this one like in book two, there's an example when Someone asked a question about the Chamber of Secrets and And

[00:26:10] they are like but who could it be that opened the chamber and Dumbledore is like The question isn't who but how? And you're like this dude knows everything that's going on and he's just figuring out how

[00:26:25] Voldemort Tom Riddle opened to the Chamber of Secrets like he knows everything in this one He has these memories that are just out there and you just don't know He's not piecing them together yet. But these memories were so good. They're like such great information

[00:26:39] Love this information in these Yeah, cuz it's the backstory to so many. Mm-hmm characters that you have no context for yeah like who? Bagman yeah, so what's baggins backstory? So he in his trial

[00:26:56] He like goes free because everybody just like is applauding him and that he's cool and he's a quidditch guy Mm-hmm, which I don't think that's right. No Right, he's a Death Eater. Mm-hmm, or I guess he's a Death Eater but that I hate it

[00:27:12] I was like no way the general public is just like this guy's cool. We'll let him go even though he's a Death Eater well, he's not a Death Eater, but he was closely he did some dealings with

[00:27:23] People that he shouldn't have done dealings with what did he do? What does it say in this chapter? What did bagman do? I think he was caught like

[00:27:31] Too close to them or like caught up with them the day Ludo bagman joins us be a sad day indeed for the ministry He gave information Brookwood who had been a friend of Ludo's father had persuaded Ludo into giving him information

[00:27:51] And he gave information about the ministry to the Death Eater, yeah, he gave a ministry Sorry, he gave Brookwood information about the ministry So he's just passing on for information and he doesn't necessarily know what he's doing

[00:28:08] I guess he's like a little bit of an oaf. Do you believe that though? Yeah I just felt like he was playing dumb Yeah, I think so. I think to a part but I think he just is dumb

[00:28:26] Like I do do you think that he is more conniving than The this book is leading on like cuz does he pop up in future books as someone who's like really dangerous? probably I think

[00:28:40] I think he definitely is trying to fly under the radar right now and then Later something's gonna happen where he has this like pivotal moment And I don't know if he's gonna go to the moon or something

[00:28:53] where he has this like pivotal moment and I don't know if he's gonna go to the dark side or not, but I Feel I just keep getting the impression that he's just glossing over everything

[00:29:05] Trying to sweep things under the rug. I don't like that because if you know That the person you're talking to is Working for the Dark Lord. Like why are you talking to them? He's your friend. It's complicated Complicated but

[00:29:23] That's the thing I think I think there's complications, you know, it's not just There's a line that pops up in the next book I think is great But the books don't really follow this line at all says the world's not split of the good people on Death Eaters

[00:29:36] You said that like I know because it's such a freaking great line, but I love that line for this moment, too It's like bagman You know some people are just idiots and they don't really know like they have a friend and

[00:29:49] Like the friends asking about questions and you know the friends shady, but you're like, this is my friend So let me just like, you know talk to them about some of the stuff that I saw So he might just be completely dumb and innocent

[00:30:00] He also could be really evil and conniving and could pop up as like the main assailant in the next few books so we'll say I'm gonna die on chapter one of the next So we learned about him who else do we learn about

[00:30:21] We learn what happened to Bertha, right? Is Bertha in here? Did we learn about birth? I wrote the other main thing is the whole crouch jr. Situation. Yeah with his wife yeah, her crouch his wife and his son and they That is crazy

[00:30:38] Yeah, like knowing after the fact like the later chapters of how that actually went down Mm-hmm is really crazy. But for this whole trial, it's like Yeah, he just sends them away one thing that I love in these

[00:30:55] In these trials is the switch between people who are like Like uber Righteous for justice they like are like everyone is gang mentality And then another one where like it's bagman's trial and everyone's lax and they all think he's really cool

[00:31:15] So they don't care about like enacting what should be justice or like Oh good luck in the Quidditch World Cup or whatever. They say you're like, this is great. They got like a celebrity here, but crouch jr While he's terrible

[00:31:29] He definitely falls on a time when everyone is just thirsty for I guess justice or not necessarily justice just revenge right here because it's like after the dark Lord has Gone away and these these four people are on trial These four terrible people are on trial and

[00:31:50] Crouch just sends his son away Really without any like remorse or without any like second glance or second look or second thought or anything like that. He Renounces him basically. Yeah, I have no son. Yeah, which is crazy It's a very bad dad move

[00:32:07] Well, what would you do if you're a dad in that situation? You have to try your son. First of all, you shouldn't even have to try your son. That's ridiculous. Yeah, that's messed up yeah, but he actually thinks that his son is

[00:32:19] Bad because there's something later on where he's like, oh like my son has 12 owls or owls And he's proud of him. Yeah, but now he's just like completely is the opposite Yeah, it shows you how bagman

[00:32:36] Senior or no how crouch senior just switches from one thing to the other like during crouches schooling years He was a good student. He was getting out of Oz. He was like brilliant and then he

[00:32:47] At this point in the book, you don't know if he's good or bad He seems like he's good and his father is just like an insane person But he seems to go to the dark side he seems to go to follow be a follower of Voldemort and then

[00:33:00] That's when his father like renounces him because his father doesn't want anything to do with that at all but the crazy thing is you learn that his father's kind of like two-faced and

[00:33:10] That he's he does he says he doesn't want anything to do with that and like that's even he's talking to Moody I think about this in one of the chapters like, you know, how how the lengths that I've gone to

[00:33:21] eliminate people from who are Death Eaters and like I want nothing to do with them and they're terrible but he took his wife and Swapped them in prison and he was just hiding his son, which is a little crazy

[00:33:34] It's kind of like a psychological. Yeah thriller horror movie. I know thing to me like imprisoning your own son in Some altered mental state in your basement like or not basement, but it feels like it would be in a basement Yeah Yeah, yeah, it's just like deeply

[00:33:57] Disturbing how crouch is just Flip-flopping. Yes, but he's he's almost true to himself in a way like unless if his wife didn't beg him To save his son. I don't know if like he would have gone back and changed that decision, you know

[00:34:15] Yeah, I don't think he would have to be honest. I Think that I think it was just time when everyone just was like they wanted There's one thing that I that crushes me in this chapter that I kind of love but it crushes me is that

[00:34:32] Everyone who is trying these four people Had a love of Frank and Alice Longbottom Like those are two cool people and they were all so furious But these four people had a part in driving Frank and Allison saying that they wanted they would do

[00:34:51] Anything to destroy these people so there's like part of me that I'm like I would be right there along with them like Frank and also the coolest It's like let's get these freaking dirtbags in prison, but it's not justice

[00:35:03] You can't like be angry about certain things like that and be the one that's enacting justice on someone. That's really revenge So this is a revenge case other than a justice case It was a good point

[00:35:16] But dang the death that it gives to Neville, that's one of my favorites one of my favorite That was painful. Yeah, like I That broke my heart that he has says he visits them and he loves his parents and then I know Is wait does Moody give the?

[00:35:37] book about The is a ghillie weed was it called? Yeah, he gives that to Cedric or to Neville to Neville Yeah, cuz that's when He's Talking to Harry later and he's like you're so psych stuck up. You didn't even ask Neville for help

[00:35:54] Like yeah, he would have helped you instantly. Yeah And that's definitely Harry's thing he just does that he wants to do everything independently Yeah, so this was the devastating part He says You know, you know the trial you found me in the one with crouches son well

[00:36:18] Were they talking about Neville's parents? Dumbledore gave Harry a very sharp. Look Has never ever told you why he has been brought up by his grandmother Here he shook his head

[00:36:30] Wondering as he so as he as he did so how he could have failed to ask Neville this and almost four years of knowing him Yes, they were talking about Neville's parents at Dumbledore. His father Frank was an order just like professor Moody

[00:36:43] He and his wife were tortured for information about Voldemort's whereabouts after he lost his powers as you heard So they're dead said Harry quietly. No said Dumbledore his full his voice full of bitterness Harry had never heard before They are insane

[00:36:59] They are both in st. Mungo's Hospital for magical maladies and injuries I believe Neville visits him with his grandmother during the holidays. They do not recognize him Harry sat there horror-struck He had never known never in four years bothered to find out So devastating

[00:37:21] He just is so in his own world he doesn't ask anybody what's going on Okay, but is there a point where you want to let that like that kind of information? Do you want to let a person divulge that information to you? I

[00:37:34] Wouldn't just straight-up be like, where's your parents? But you can tell that Neville is emotionally distraught a lot of the times and he's just like a different kind of kid like he's obviously Nervous and he's not like super skilled or like something's holding back

[00:37:51] There's other ways around that you can get people's life story without straight up asking them. No, but I don't know if a 13 year old boy or whatever age he was at that time Is gonna be able to do that and

[00:38:05] You just rereading that right now that hospital in the next book. That's one of the chapter titles You're looking at the next the chapter titles in the next book. Yeah I'm only on like chapter two. Okay, but now I'm curious. I'm like, are they gonna meet his parents?

[00:38:23] I mean, I guess there's hundreds of people in the hospital, but That the fact that it's mentioned yes makes me wonder hmm interesting It's that's where Dudley went in book one to get his tail removed Is it a wizarding hospital? Yeah So, where is that located?

[00:38:45] Oh somewhere in London and There's no muggles in it. Are there usually no usually not It's just uh, but I guess if a muggle gets inflicted with something they probably bring him there

[00:38:54] It's actually cool. There's cool lore on that. We'll talk about that when you get to that chapter that you know Yeah, it is we'll get there eventually I'll read fast I know But yeah, these trials are

[00:39:09] Devastating they're interesting. We have one with Karkaroff to where he's trying to give information so he can be set free But you like the idea of the pensive. I do I think you should keep it locked up I do I think you should keep it locked up

[00:39:26] Yeah, I could use that for sure I feel like Like he says it's excessive thoughts that you put in there like he says something like that But how do you get a pensive like did he invent that for himself?

[00:39:39] I don't think he invented that for himself. Just buy it from the store. Maybe yeah, probably really expensive though Definitely has to have some like Ancient kind of magic attached to it. It's not just like, you know a basin

[00:39:51] It's not just like a bowl you can I can put my memories in my bowl and just keep my bowl like locked away Maybe they have like a cheaper version You can buy the upgraded version able to hold 10 thoughts

[00:40:10] Memory limits. Yeah, literally like a computer. They're like disk drives. You can buy a 32 gigabyte memory drive 64 gigabyte memory drive Anything else in the chapter that you like that well you want to talk about before we go next Yeah the oh

[00:40:38] Here's a line from Dumbledore that I like a lot Curiosity is not a sin. He said but we should exercise caution with our curiosity. Yes, indeed And for the man who doesn't like to give good answers most curiosity It's just I don't know

[00:40:57] He's not like he's not telling him to not be curious but he's kind of inhibiting his free curiosity, which I feel like is just like a Preplanned way to avoid giving good answers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah for sure

[00:41:13] So he does skirt the issue with a lot of different things. So There's also another line that we that we didn't mention but they talked about Dumbledore's hatred of dementors here Which we that's a whole different issue where he says tumble dorm

[00:41:29] He Moody says let's hear this information I say and throw him straight back to the dementors Dumbledore made a small noise of descent through his long crooked nose House forgetting you don't like to mentors. Do you Elvis said Moody with a sardonic smile?

[00:41:42] No said Dumbledore calmly I'm afraid I don't I have long felt the ministry is wrong to ally itself with such creatures So you think the ministry should oh no actually so I kind of think he's right About that, but I don't like how he says with

[00:42:08] with such creatures Like why are you standing up for the? Look look at the thing that you've you created I think Well, the mentors are not like, you know great. You definitely want to avoid dementors in my life

[00:42:29] They are just creatures like much like I want to avoid lions in my life I would love to see a lion from far off But I don't want to like, you know be eaten by a lion or like a bear Yeah, exactly

[00:42:46] Thank you. Exactly if you were you can't blame them So the the fact of the ministry allying itself with creatures seems strange to me I don't necessarily think it should ally itself with any creatures if I'm being completely honest

[00:42:57] I think all creatures have autonomy and there should be like a society where there might be Relationships with each of them like the the goblins kind of controlling the bank and the money that seems fine

[00:43:11] That's like they're controlling one thing there their side of things but they're not like under wizards House-elves seem a little too subservient to wizards, which I don't like I'm definitely gonna be part of spew the house-elf liberation front

[00:43:24] But dementors it seems like the ministry is using dementors for what they want from it there I guess there is like a a I Don't know. I think you mentioned this a while ago. It seems maybe like it could actually work because they're controlling dementors

[00:43:40] For where they can feed and what they can feed on it's not just like they're roaming throughout being able to you know feed on anyone but It just seems strange. It seems like corruption can happen at any moment right there

[00:43:54] So, why do you think Dumbledore has always hated the mentors I Was a question I've never thought about before Cuz it could be something that he was just brought up with like that mindset Yeah, for sure, but for Dumbledore who is very open-minded person

[00:44:18] to not like them I feel like he would have almost explored the That side of like oh, what are the ethics of like why do we hate dementors? But he still doesn't like them

[00:44:30] because my thing is that because he is the guy for second chances and standing up for people he doesn't like how Like restrictive and just like black and white the dementors are but I

[00:44:42] Don't know. I feel like there could be a longer history of why he doesn't like them Like did they take somebody from his life? Yeah, maybe we'll get that do we get that? Is that a thing? You should know by now. I'm not gonna give you any answers

[00:45:00] There's something that you we learned about in the next book Which is called legilimency and occlumency. We'll get there when we get there But it's reading reading someone's mind and being able to block out someone else from reading your mind

[00:45:16] so legitimacy is to be the ability to read someone's mind and Occlumency is the ability to shut someone out from reading your mind So I am a very good occluments. I can shut you out from reading I Have to learn Legilimency

[00:45:37] Yeah, maybe now that I said that I feel like Dumbledore probably Something happened with him like the dementors killed somebody his backstory is gonna be really fascinating if we ever get his backstory Does he have any siblings? Yes That guy

[00:45:55] That's the only one that I remember yeah, I think we talked about last podcast to how Or no, I don't know if he talked about stuff about last podcast I think we talked about this. I was talking about this on a movie that I was watching

[00:46:08] his relationship with Aberforth seems strange because He talks about his brother's affinity with goats and I feel like that's a lie I feel like he's not right on that and we'll talk about that as we go on

[00:46:20] Because there's more to it, but I just don't think he likes his brother very much And he has issues with his brother and he's just you know Doing what an older brother does like making fun of their brother in small little jabs and small little ways

[00:46:36] We will talk about that way more when we get there But um, all right chapter 31 is the third task I Was dying I read that and it was just like these little tiny bushes in the Quidditch field and I was like no way and then

[00:47:01] Somebody was like, oh, they'll be like 10 feet high in a month And I was like reading my book on my lap and I was just like I Can't believe this and then I just started dying laughing cuz this whole like I guess two episodes maybe yeah

[00:47:19] We were just you were gaslighting me so hard And I think you fully got me to doubt myself because I was like, it's probably like 10 other different movies Yeah Why why would you Cuz that was

[00:47:38] Yourself that I didn't say oh, yeah, there's amazing it so you're excited for the maze Evans You just got the joy of self-discovery. I was so on top of it though because it is a maze It is the obstacles. Yeah out the maze you nailed it

[00:47:52] But yeah, I was like thinking about people listening to this like everyone is gonna be dying laughing at me Or just like wow, she's really dumb No No one's gonna think that at all. I

[00:48:06] Think it's more like it's fun to see your mind track and some sense on some things that you That you remember but you're really reliving this book for the first time because you don't remember a ton of it

[00:48:16] Like you remember a lot of the core of it, but still it's like And then you showed me the chapter art too and you're like, oh like that's helpful. Maybe Looking at this lion lady What I remember Like could you Matt?

[00:48:32] I think I said during that where I was like, could you imagine if they like, you know Meet a you know, like a hedge of mazes and they got a chase a dragon throughout it I was like literally giving you half the plot of this but

[00:48:44] Just making it sound ridiculous And it does it's like the more you talk about it almost just like doubt myself more and more so like, okay He's read this like 15 times. I'm probably making no sense People are listening to this Meanwhile, sorry, I was gaslighting you

[00:49:02] Either I feel like now my theories are gonna be a lot crazier and I'm gonna be like More bold to be like on top of my theories and own it cuz like maybe I am right

[00:49:13] Yeah, or I'm gonna just doubt myself because already like five times in this podcast. I'm like wait, are you lying to me? But yeah Yeah, um, yeah You won't trust me at all and at the very end when you have a great reading experience

[00:49:32] Then we get to go on to Lord of the Rings not really knowing anything that happens that together We've both seen the movies I know for sure but there's still more that happens in the books Yeah, I can trust you fully at some You

[00:49:55] Trust me you just can't trust me with the podcast Yeah, exactly. No, I trust you with a lot of information. I trust you too much information Anyways, they do this whole maze thing. Yeah, it's supposed to be protected by

[00:50:13] McGonagall moody other people around the outside of the maze And then that definitely like clicked in my mind cuz I texted you and I was like In the middle of the chapter, I think some I don't know

[00:50:27] But I was like, yeah crumb is cheating and you're like crumbs cheating. And I was like, yeah, he like Yeah, it's on the Cedric like you don't think that's cheating and you're like, oh, yeah a hundred percent and then I was like

[00:50:40] I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie Oh, yeah hundred percent and then I was like Dang it There's something in that chapter that doesn't it say like his eyes like where it didn't look normal

[00:50:55] So you definitely I think it's like Yeah, I don't know if you're gonna use an unforgivable curse. I think you're looking a little crazy But yeah, that was kind of funny so you did mess up a little bit I know I know I know

[00:51:15] Won't happen again. Don't worry Maybe I can get you to trip up over text Now I'm gonna be super Anything that you send I'm gonna like reread the entire book and be like wait, what can I say? What can I say?

[00:51:33] There is a really lovely note right before they're about to do this chapter These people or they have like this this meet-and-greet with a family and Harry doesn't really want to go cuz he's like, you know, he's like no one's gonna show up for me and then

[00:51:49] Cedric but he pops out of the door and he's like hey come on You got people waiting for you and he thinks it's the Dursleys for a hot second. And then he realized that it's the Weasley's

[00:52:00] Just they're so nice. They're the best. He needs them. So I know I know I'm so glad that they just Adopted him into the family. Me too They're so great, they're so great for him and especially the fact that they are like

[00:52:17] Well-versed in the wizarding world. Mm-hmm. It's nice that he has like a good Wizarding family too because if you just had like Hermione's parents That would be totally different like they're accepting of Hermione, but they're muggles

[00:52:31] But to have the Weasley's who like know all this stuff and have the history at Hogwarts and yeah Then it's just like he fully gets Embedded into the wizarding. Yeah, it's so helpful for him Yes

[00:52:42] he can bounce so many different things off on them and like try to figure certain things out and Ron really is is like his his real introduction into the wizarding world when he's on the train and

[00:52:52] Ron gives him like the details in the download of all these like little bits of information Ronda good. Uh, they're such a good family from makes me so happy that mrs. Weasley showed up. I love this And that Dumbledore let that let them come to I know. Yeah

[00:53:11] Yeah, you when we find out Kramer's torturing Cedric in the maze which is crazy What do you think about the unforgivable curses? Like what do you mean what do I think about them? Do you think that all of them are unforgivable?

[00:53:27] Do you think that one is worse than the other ones? Um, I Would say probably Well, no because you caught me up on this once cuz I was gonna say death is worse but I think imperiousing someone and like living

[00:53:47] Their life for them like you can cause so much more damage to more people if you're just like imperiousing someone then if you just kill someone and And killing someone Like but if you're in piercing someone you could like wreck whole families. You could wreck whole yeah

[00:54:05] I don't know like whatever their job is like if you imperious someone at the ministry You could destroy the ministry, you know Wow That's where I'm feeling like if people have been imperious in the past and the present at this point

[00:54:21] definitely people in the future are gonna be Imperious and I'm just like there's no way to trust anyone. Yeah, so it's good that it's illegal, but there's also really no

[00:54:32] Like tracking on it either. Yeah, cuz you would think if it could be tracked like that. It would be You would be tracked at the ministry and it would be checked at Hogwarts, which was like the two hubs of the Wizarding World, but it's not so imagine

[00:54:48] where else it's going unchecked because if you Kill someone it's a finite and like you're gonna know. Yep, but Imperious goes unnoticed and then what's the other one is crucial? Yeah, that's bad, but that's temporary. So I don't know Yeah It's bad

[00:55:06] But like you definitely know someone is has issues if they're doing the cruciatus curse for so long that a person goes insane from it that's That's the worst of the offenses. I think the worst use of an unforgettable curse

[00:55:21] That's the worst use of it. Crucio is probably the easiest if You're just using it for like in a period of time but if you're using it for so long the person their mind becomes addled and they don't remember who they are I

[00:55:36] Think that leaves itself into the worst And it's worse than killing someone. Yeah, I was I think it's worse than like controlling someone but I think I think I think The imperious curse is pretty

[00:55:49] Wickedly dark, I think it's darker than a lot of other people think it's dark Because I think there's a there's something in it where like, you know, if someone's good and they use the imperious curse

[00:56:00] You could use it to like for kind of like things that you need or but no one who's really good is using the imperious Curse all that much like do you ever think that Harry or Ron or Hermione would ever use the imperious curse?

[00:56:11] Like as far as if you can polyjuice yeah for sure I know so if If any of them are using it, it just seems strange But like I guess Dumbledore could use it and maybe his motives would be a little bit better

[00:56:24] But he again he's one of those people who thinks he's above the law. So like would it really be good? So that one just has a lot of darkness to it, but they're all dark they're all they're all pretty wicked and evil It's just it's crazy that

[00:56:36] Someone was imperious My crumb was imperious in this and he was using the cruciatus curse on other people. That's wild Yeah, man, I feel like I almost am surprised that they're illegal in the world or like

[00:56:53] Unforgivable because I would think with all that power that wizards have it would kind of just be like part of life You got to live with that people Can hurt you and I don't know like you would learn how to defend yourself from that

[00:57:06] Yes, so it's surprising to me that they kind of like put restrictions on that. Yeah Yeah The the unforgivable curses are interesting. We will continue to talk about those because they will pop up in other parts of the books But yeah, they're funky

[00:57:23] What um, what was your favorite one of the maze tasks that they had to do? Would you like the most? I thought it was cool when he tried to use his Patronus cuz he was like I got this yeah, and then he didn't have it but

[00:57:39] The little Sphinx thing that was cracking me up that was really funny Yeah, did you try to take time and like guess what the riddle is? No, I gave up

[00:57:54] Forever I was surprised that he got it. It didn't make sense to me though. Like I was trying to work it out I've almost googled it but I was not done with the book yet. So I was like Not gonna do it but

[00:58:11] What were the other things in the maze So there were blast-ended screws huge ones that Harry had a deal with there were the Sphinx was in it the Boggart was in it The ones that I just said

[00:58:36] There wasn't that there wasn't a ton. There was a cuz Moody was knocking them out for him apparently Yeah, yeah, so Harry didn't encounter a ton He encountered a few different things. He encountered the spiders. I think what the spiders were in it

[00:58:51] Were they? Oh, yeah. Yeah, the spider was right after the Sphinx and that's when he got injured and then him and said you decided to grab it at the same time. Yeah Yeah It doesn't say anything about crumbs eyes looking crazy. I

[00:59:09] Guess that's just movie some of the stuff from from the movie just goes into my head in the movie He has like like completely white and eyes pretty much. It's a little creepy So you definitely know something? It's like probably they do that to signal like the Imperius

[00:59:26] This was the first time that Harry was actually prepared for something in his life I feel like Every other task. Yeah on a whim or just going with what other people said But he actually knew what to do here, which was kind of refreshing. I know finally

[00:59:43] He's just not an idiot for once in his life Yep the second task would have been hilarious to see that him just swimming on the surface at the of the lake like

[00:59:52] Bobbing his head up and down trying to look because he was he was literally going to that task No idea what he was gonna do. Yeah until Dobby saves the day and there's nothing you could have done either Like I know you can't swim that far. Yep

[01:00:04] So I was like good his education is paying off And he was like actually caring about other people too a little bit cuz he was like, oh is Fleur okay yeah, and then they're like Died or something. Yeah, I don't know how to say that and then

[01:00:23] He ran for Cedric like he ran through the hedge to get him so I was like, okay good Do you think you'd have gone through the maze Yeah Spent 45 seconds on that riddle and I couldn't do it, but the rest of this I

[01:00:44] Think I probably could have I don't know if I would win But I'm a very competitive person. I can do well If I was here in Hogwarts and I was of age I would probably Try for the try wizard Cup

[01:01:02] Is it the cup? Is it the tournament? Yeah, that's right. Where's the cup? Yeah, would you do it? It was just a guy with a fire but try was pretty much. Yeah for sure. I would definitely do it Would you win?

[01:01:14] I would hate the second task cold water. You'd be in it cuz you're like cold plunges. I'm like You're like my people swimming around I I Would love the first task the first task would be fun for me Second task, I would hate third task would be great

[01:01:34] I would love the third task like I love the idea of like Unexpected things that kind of pop up at you every once in a while but the Sphinx is pretty dangerous the Sphinx is like

[01:01:43] People don't realize how dangerous of a of a being this thing is of a creature the beast Did I ask you this would be your person at the bottom of the lake? Oh Oh great question

[01:01:57] In the second task assuming it has to be a person yeah, who would it be probably my niece? Oh That's tragic Good you get to go rescue her. Yeah, probably her or West would be down there Oh

[01:02:23] Yeah, just be like everybody's pets yeah, I never want to go feral over that they're like I have to get my I Don't care about a human. Let me get my pet Who would it be for you? I don't know probably Like one of my family members. Yeah

[01:02:41] Yeah That's cool, that's cool, it's a great question Did you find the Sphinx this thing because I have her little riddle. Oh, yeah, like say it to me I don't know what the answer is. I forgot what the answer is

[01:02:56] You already meant we mentioned the answer like three times First think of the person who lives in disguise who deals in secrets and tells not but lies Next tell me what's always the last thing to mend the middle of middle and end of middle

[01:03:10] The last thing to mend the middle of middle and end of end and of the end and Finally, give me the sound often heard during the search for a hard-to-find word now string them together and answer me this Which creature would you be unwilling to kiss?

[01:03:26] Look how good I can read when the room is bright What are these words yeah, I was confused when she kept saying like What's the last thing to mend in the middle of middle and end of end what is that?

[01:03:43] How is that a spider like what part of D the end end of end? It's like a crossword clue end of end End on the middle of middle the middle of mill These are in the middle of middle

[01:03:59] Cuz I was like obviously he doesn't want to kiss a dementor, yeah, that's what everyone's first thought is it's a mentor I Feel like I also don't say yeah, it's a British thing everyone says or we say a spider spider Boston yeah

[01:04:17] Yeah, and then he goes thanks and Harry and amazed at his own brilliance he dashed forward Answers one thing right? I know right? Yeah Every every one of the other objects is being moved out of his way and here he's like I'm so good at magic

[01:04:32] This is great. No one could touch me and that's such a good Hermione task, too I know But it was it was great at the end when he goes

[01:04:41] I was the only one who was thick enough to take that song seriously said Harry bitterly just take the cup No said Cedric. He stepped over the spiders spiders tangled legs to join Harry who stared him Cedric was serious

[01:04:53] He was walking away from the sort of glory Hufflepuff house haven't had in centuries What do you think of Cedric? I? Really like Cedric. Yeah, nothing Has ever like there's never been a time where I'm just like, oh, I don't like Cedric

[01:05:08] He just kind of gets better and better and he's a side character, but he still develops and I don't know He's just a nice guy. Yeah, like he's just genuinely a nice person. He's a genuinely great person. Yeah It's like so noble. I know seriously

[01:05:24] Yeah, and he's like literally walking away from it It's like one thing to say, you know, I like you take and just stay right next to it Like hopefully he'll say no you take it. I'll take it He says you take it and he literally is walking away

[01:05:35] Like he doesn't intend to take it and like everything that would mean for his family for his house. Oh Man, Cedric is such a great person I love Cedric so much and it's interesting the fact that

[01:05:47] Harry's still underage and like claims that he didn't put his name into I feel like at this point Cedric is just like, you know, it is what it is

[01:05:55] I know but I don't like I'm kind of surprised that he would give it up to Harry like I guess I don't fully understand his Decision like I don't know because why didn't he take it?

[01:06:11] He just didn't take it because Harry was helping him with the tasks. This is funny because to me this is like What because I'm just a Hufflepuff. This just makes more sense to me and I don't necessarily know how to explain it

[01:06:26] It's not really out of nobility that you do this. It's out of what you think is the greater form of victory? So it's not really altruistic. I think the reason that Cedric is doing this

[01:06:36] I think that he is gaining some kind of greater self-satisfaction based on passing the cup off to someone else in his head He knows he really won and that's all Cedric really needs if for Cedric sake

[01:06:48] For his dad, he wants that cup. He wants eternal glory once a thousand galleons for Hufflepuff house They want that they want the glory for it

[01:06:54] but I think everyone in Hufflepuff house would still see this happen and then Cedric would tell this tale later and it would be everyone in Hufflepuff house would be like So proud of the decision that Cedric made Because it simultaneously

[01:07:08] shows that Hufflepuff house really deserve to win that we're secretively all of Hufflepuff house has a legend about the Strywizard tournament being like You know Harry Potter won it but Cedric like

[01:07:20] He would he won it and not only did he win it he was actually noble enough to let Harry have this by himself That is like a Hufflepuff through and through if I were to define what a Hufflepuff is

[01:07:30] that is it like and it's not necessarily out of like Cedric's not really doing it out of that. I think Cedric is genuine genuinely doing it out of being a upstanding lovely human being like he's doing this because he is He's not self-defacing but he's just like I

[01:07:51] Just don't think he I just don't think this thing has the value for him that being a good Like being a good person and letting someone else win This has more value to Cedric than winning this thing for his family and for his house

[01:08:04] And that is a true Hufflepuff. Yeah, like he's sticking to his values. Yes above any other rating that And I love that Thank you for explaining that Do a Slytherin you're like, why wouldn't you want that? Yeah ambition. Come on

[01:08:23] No, I do not after finishing this book. I do not want to be a Slytherin Slytherins are great. Don't worry Slytherins are great All right, well let's wrap these thumbs up

[01:08:41] We'll do the next six chapters because the next six are a unit but this it's a good end right here. So Who is your favorite? character in these four It's really just very kind of like Harry is pretty much it so I actually I'm gonna say something different

[01:08:58] I'm gonna say mrs. Weasley for showing up for him. I love that so much that she's like, she's such a mother to even him. I Just think that's great Who's a hot tamale? Cedric It's an easy one, yeah, it's an easy one Cedric is it

[01:09:15] Now what's your favorite moment in these? Thanks, I Not the Sphinx can my favorite moment be realizing that you gas lit me so Hard It was just the line the maze yeah, that was my favorite moment That's a great moment I love that it's a good moment

[01:09:43] Mine was Probably the pensive moments like all the memories in the pensive I think are so good and they bring so much light to different characters, especially Neville way. I love dearly. I love him

[01:09:57] Well, thanks for joining us on our journey of Harry Potter and the first-time readers second time reader