Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: Ch 1-5

[00:00:00] Welcome to the podcast, I'm Jon. And I'm Lizzie. And this is Harry Potter and the Second Time Reader. Okay, let's try to go through five chapters for this one. And just to start, you don't like this

[00:00:25] book that much so far. I've had a change of heart. Oh, no way. All right, let's go. Yeah, I was not enjoying this. I felt like there was nothing happening. Yeah. But then I like, kind of ran

[00:00:38] it over again to get ready for this. And then I realized I was like, I'm actually enjoying this so much. Yeah, I'm like looking forward to reading it every single day or night or whatever. So I don't

[00:00:49] know, it's just very pleasant. And I feel like I was being too harsh because the first three are really fast. Yeah, they have a whole story. But I mean, but boom, there's no wasted space in the

[00:00:59] first three. Yeah. This one there feels like there's wasted space, but there's not. And I feel like I was just judging that at the beginning. Yeah. But now I'm enjoying the extra time. And

[00:01:10] now I'm like, we're gonna, this series is gonna end eventually. I need to savor every single page. But you've had a complete 180 turn right there. This book is so boring. I don't want it to end.

[00:01:20] This is the greatest. Yeah, I like it. It's good. That's generally what happens around the fourth book. Like people, some people, I mean, the fourth book, I think is where it really picks up.

[00:01:31] But sometimes it does take a little bit through book four. And then you really get hooked and you're like, Oh, dang. Okay. This is fantastic. Yeah, it's definitely slower. Because yeah, I'm like, I'm in chapter 17. And are 18. And it's like, there's moments that are very climactic

[00:01:53] and a lot's happening, but I still feel like overall not like a lot has happened to the major storyline. Yeah. But I'm fine with that. Yeah, I'm just I'm enjoying the ride. Okay. So yeah,

[00:02:05] you have a great point in that in the first three books. You knew what was happening from the get go. There was like some kind of mystery to it. And the fourth book, like something happens

[00:02:16] at the Triwizard tournament, but it doesn't seem like integral to the plot. So you're like, where is this really going? Like what's gonna happen in this one? Yeah. Um, okay. So let's, uh, let's talk about chapter one. Chapter one. Yes. It did the story jumps

[00:02:31] right in. I think maybe I actually kind of take it back more than some of the other books. The story really does jump right in. You don't know exactly what's happening through the rest of the

[00:02:37] story, because it goes, it jumps in and then it takes you out of this little world. And then like, you're not in it for like the next few chapters. So you don't know what's going on. But which I

[00:02:46] think might be part of the reason why it feels more boring. Yeah. Is because you start out like so intense. You're like, Oh, this is great. And then it's just over. And then you just have to

[00:02:55] go through Quidditch and life and Hogwarts. Great. That's what I want though. That's what I want to go through. It just took me a minute to warm up to it. But yeah. How did you like the

[00:03:06] first chapter? I love this chapter. I think it's cool. It's like a different perspective and I'm assuming it's taking place immediately after book three, like Wormtail is rejoining. So I don't know. I like that strong connection of the story instead of just like another summer.

[00:03:24] Yeah. But I don't know. It's so interesting. Yeah. Like the first I read it and I was like, okay, I'm just going to ignore any theories I have or any questions because it'll just come around

[00:03:37] and I'm not going to theorize and I'll just like read the book. And then now I just went back and I'm like, Nope, I actually have so many questions. Like I can't just finish this book. I

[00:03:48] need to think about this. One of the good thing about the first chapter too is that it just, it does put so many questions into your brain for what could happen in like the next few

[00:03:58] parts of the story. But then again, you get taken out of that a little bit. But what are some questions that you have for the first chapter? First of all, is Voldemort

[00:04:06] a blob? Yeah. What is he? That's a great question. Cause I'm picturing him as a blob in a chair. Okay. But I don't think, is that how he is? No. Okay. Cause he's like turquoise to me too. He's

[00:04:23] this little like turquoise melted blob in the seat of the chair and it's so anticlimactic when he turns around and he's like, ah, and then he kills Frank. But I don't know how to picture him here.

[00:04:36] Cause I guess he's fully Voldemort, but he seems like super weak and super dependent on Pettigrew. Yeah. He a hundred percent is very super weak and super dependent on Pettigrew. He's kind of like, um, like do you want the movie depiction of what he looks like?

[00:04:55] Sure. He's like, I guess I could look in this. Maybe. I don't even know if it has that. I think toward the end it might have that, but you didn't want to look toward the end. I think in a,

[00:05:04] do you know, have you ever seen Benjamin Button? He's like an old man, baby. Like he reverses and he ages in reverse. So Voldemort looks like a 60 year old man who's a baby. It's pretty weird and

[00:05:18] gross. So in this, like he's tiny. That's so weird. Yeah. And he's just sitting in his chair. Yep. Just hanging out in the chair. Like he's a baby without the cute baby pudge who can like

[00:05:31] talk in full sentences. It's weird. He's just a tiny man. Yeah. He's a tiny man. Very, very tiny man. That's really weird. Now I'm picturing like the gingerbread man from Shrek. That's better

[00:05:43] than a blob. I like that more than a blob. Yeah. Seriously. The size of the gingerbread man. Um, yeah. Who are the people that are with them? Pettigrew is with Voldemort and then Frank is in the hallway and Nagini. Yeah. And is Nagini a basilisk or is like,

[00:06:02] is that the same species? Nagini is something really interesting and weird. We won't even touch on Nagini in this series. What? Why? Because it's, um, I don't know if I want to, it's not pertinent to this, the, the, the Harry Potter series, the seven books really at all.

[00:06:22] This is something that comes up in the Fantastic Beasts movies. Do you want, it's not really a spoiler, but do you want to know what Nagini actually is? Sure. Nagini is a she and she used to be a human. It's something, I forgot what this is called.

[00:06:36] Let me look it up here. So is she like a slave? She's something called a maledictus. Um, let me look this up and read it to you. A maledictus was a female individual who inherited and carried a

[00:06:47] rare and dangerous type of genetic defect that eventually turned her into a type of beast permanently. The curse was carried from birth and was passed down from mother to daughter. So it,

[00:06:59] it bears no significance on this series, but they added this lore to it earlier on. It's strange. I think so. There's a lot of Harry Potter fans who are kind of like, um, in and out of this theory.

[00:07:11] They, some people love it. Some people are like, ah, it's not like, you know, it doesn't make a ton of sense. Yeah. So it's, it's a bit shaky. It's like added information, but it's confusing.

[00:07:23] Yeah. So like, even though you want it and like, I want to know it's like, oh, whatever. There's some added information that she gave. That's fantastic. And that's great. I don't think the maledictus thing is the coolest thing that she's added. There's a few other things that she's

[00:07:34] added that we'll talk about when we finish this series that I think are fantastic additions, but I don't love the maledictus thing that much. There's another thing that she added called an

[00:07:45] obscurial. I wouldn't even tell you what that is yet. An obscurial, which I think is the best addition that she's made. I think it's one of the coolest additions that she's made. And it, it changes the reading of one character in Harry Potter significantly to the point where

[00:08:00] you read it and you're like, everything makes sense now. When you finished a normal Harry Potter series, you're like, there's a few questions that you still have. You're like this one little thing. I don't fully understand this. And the new series, she put this thing in

[00:08:13] called an obscurial. And as soon as she put that in there, all fans unanimously said, this is exactly, this explains this perfectly. And it was like so satisfying. I want to know who that is

[00:08:23] so badly. Everyone I have a question about and be like, maybe this is whatever that word is that I still don't know what that means. We'll get there when we get there. What else did you think about

[00:08:34] chapter one? What any other questions you have? How do you milk a snake? That's so gross. You know what snake musk is? Like that's okay. It's disgusting. That's why people think snakes smell

[00:08:48] bad because it's like their defense and it's like super rank like pus that they like poop out essentially. So I'm like, he's just drinking that? Like that's what I'm picturing. And for Voldemort, I'm like, maybe it's not a character to drink like the stinkiest substance known to man.

[00:09:05] So it's a, it's actually a little bit darker than that. Um, blood? No, you milk a snake. When you milk a snake, you are taking its, uh, fangs, its venom and you put it in one of those things.

[00:09:19] So yeah, it's TV. I use making out with this milking. Um, he, they take the venom and Voldemort drinking venom from this snake. That's cool. Which is pretty dark. You think it's cool. It's

[00:09:31] pretty dark. So it's like a poisonous snake, I guess. Uh, I guess. I don't think it has to be. Yeah. I don't think it has to be a poisonous snake. Why would it have venom? I don't know. Magical world. Maybe it's not venomous at all. I don't know.

[00:09:46] It's a great question. I'm not, I'm not sure about that one. That's canon that he like gets the venom and drinks it. It's I mean, yeah, it's like what milking a snake is. I mean, it's like, I don't know any other ways to milk a snake.

[00:10:02] Your guess is as good as mine. You're okay. Just relax. Um, yeah, that's a, that's a really great question. It's a weird one in this. Um, this was my other main point was like Wormtail or Pettigrew is like single-handedly keeping him alive right now. Yeah. So either

[00:10:24] Pettigrew needs to kill Voldemort or Pettigrew needs to kill himself and like self-sabotage the world. And then like, that's it. Cause there's no, like that just made me so mad. I was like,

[00:10:36] if Pettigrew is the only reason that Voldemort is alive right now. And like, he knows where he is. All he needs is like three days and then he's going to die if he's not here. Like Pettigrew needs to

[00:10:48] do something. What do you, what do you think Pettigrew's motivation is? I think if you serve the dark Lord, you have a really complex relationship with like living in the wizarding world because you want to serve him because you don't want to get tortured and die.

[00:11:07] But then you also don't want to serve him because the majority of the world is against him. And like, yeah, Pettigrew existed in the normal wizarding world for so long and like he's still

[00:11:21] alive. There's people he knows that are still alive, but I don't know, I guess just like, I don't know why he would want to, I think he's like indebted in a way.

[00:11:31] Jenna asks this question all the time in season one, which is why does anybody follow Lord Voldemort? Which is a fascinating question. And Pettigrew's motivations are a little bit more interesting

[00:11:40] than some of the other ones, to be honest. I think Pettigrew does it out of pure, but also not necessarily, he fears Voldemort, but I think he does it more so out of, he attaches himself onto the strongest person that he sees. So when he was in school,

[00:11:58] he viewed that as Sirius, James and Lupin. And then when he left, when they were, when they graduated, another power rose and he said, that's the person that's going to keep me safe. So I

[00:12:09] think his motivation is really safety. So it's bizarre, like why he's following, cause like he, his life doesn't, the quality of life doesn't seem great right now, but I think he's doing it purely so that he can survive. How do you even like find the dark Lord?

[00:12:22] Yeah, that's a great question. It's a great question. We'll come to that a little bit. There's a, there's a little bit of a detail of information at the end that we'll talk about

[00:12:34] for how this actually happened. Cause I feel like you have to put in a lot of effort to go find him and you probably have to do some like ritual and like sell your soul to him. I don't know.

[00:12:44] Great question. Yeah, probably. It's like a promise of power, but it's probably not like, he probably won't actually give it to them to be honest. Cause Voldemort doesn't seem like he's

[00:12:54] going to give away his own power. He's like vying for his power, his power. He doesn't care about others. But if you're a death eater, there is a certain aspect of like, you're going to turn heads

[00:13:03] when you walk. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And I think a lot of people would want that. Yeah, for sure. So you're yeah, that's a great point, but not, it seems like not many death eaters,

[00:13:14] death eaters are outspoken right now. Cause like I got to that part at the Quidditch thing where they're having their little riot, but they're still all masked and like, I don't know. They're not comfortable with being, yeah. They're not comfortable with being outed yet. I know. Yeah.

[00:13:29] Yeah. You actually can't see their masks. Their masks are on the end of the book and the illustrated one. I thought they just had their hoods down like their cloaks. I think their hoods. Um, Voldemort says that he needs to kill Harry Potter. And then he goes,

[00:13:47] I'm not asking you to do it alone. By that time, my faithful servant will have joined us. So the faithful servant that Trelawney was talking about, it wasn't Pettigrew. Who do you think it is? I don't know. Um, but does that not prove her thing wrong? Her prediction?

[00:14:10] This is not the same day that she's making the prediction that at midnight tonight, a faithful servant is going to rejoin. Yeah. But a faithful servant, it's not like the most faithful Lord Voldemort is saying the most faithful servant, the most, my faithful servant

[00:14:26] will have a church. Um, I don't know who that would be. Who has never given up on Voldemort? Probably like Mr. Malfoy or something. I don't know. Should I have I encountered them thus far?

[00:14:40] No. But you've read this book before and you just forgot a lot. So there's that. I don't know. It is Snape. Maybe, maybe, maybe we'll see. Snape hasn't been faithful though.

[00:14:54] Um, I like this line. Wizards who are supposed to be dead would do well not to run into Ministry of Magic witches at wayside inn. Are wizards? Did I just auto correct that in my mind?

[00:15:04] No. Ministry of Magic witches at wayside inn. So who is he talking about? Do you remember who he's talking about? Oh, is that Bertha? Yeah, it's Bertha. Yeah. So they erased something from Bertha's memory or they went through these memory charms that she already had on. So something

[00:15:21] happened to her already that was erased that Voldemort went through and I don't know what that is. So like she knows something or something happened to her previously. It's yeah, it simultaneously shows like the darkness that uh Lord Voldemort has and how he just kind of sees

[00:15:41] people as disposable. That whole section with Bertha Jorkins is a really, really weird one. We'll talk about that one even as we go later. But yeah, I uh, I don't know if I want to give

[00:15:51] too much away. But she has like some lore that somebody washed away her memory from right? That's what he's making it sound like because he's like it would be like how do I not use that

[00:16:03] information that she already had? So I don't know if he's talking about. So she didn't have like her memory right before that. She just took information from her and then like disposed of her. Turned

[00:16:12] her into Nagini. Yeah, there you go. That's what I thought you were gonna say. I was like oh no. Yeah, it wasn't like she had her memory blocked before that. It was like she just had some bits

[00:16:22] of information and um Bertha kind of just took that memory from her or like searched into her mind and took that from her and this is like part of his plan now. But you don't know what that is

[00:16:37] yet. You're trying to figure what that is. We'll figure out what that is. All right Wes. Um and there's a whole really disturbing discussion about so one of the questions you're asking is what does Voldemort look like? Is a really fascinating discussion but it's really disgusting

[00:16:53] because of potential theories and it's nowhere in the books but she's kind of come out with some of these theories afterward because someone asked her that and she's kind of confirmed some of these

[00:17:02] things. So um where does Voldemort come from and like what does he look like is a fascinating question because again the movies portray him as like this old baby and in the end of the book he

[00:17:15] is like this old baby as well. He's like weird so you're like how does what like what is happening here? And her answer to that was that um essentially Pettigrew raped Bertha and then through dark

[00:17:27] disgusting magic she birthed this child and then they attached Voldemort's soul to this child. Oh my gosh. Isn't that so dark? That is vile. Yeah it is reprehensible. I might be wrong about that but it is it is pretty ridiculous. That sounds

[00:17:50] dark enough for him. Yeah for for sure. Oh my gosh. Um so keep that in mind it's a little bit disturbing but any other questions in chapter one? Any other things you wanted to talk about?

[00:18:02] No this one. This is where like the bulk of like the meat meaty stuff happens and then it kind of takes us out of that for a bit but um what's the spookiest place you've ever been? The spookiest

[00:18:12] place I don't know probably Eastern State Penitentiary. That was terrifying. It is terrifying. That really scared me to the bones like I can't do spooky stuff um yeah that came

[00:18:28] to mind immediately. Yeah it's a terrifying place um we had this uh I don't know if I told this in season one yet but we had this at my uh school we had these train tracks that went down like for

[00:18:41] miles and miles and miles and like halfway down these train tracks like a mile down these train tracks there was this abandoned house it was just like a stone house like a super old house

[00:18:50] and some of my roommates came back one night and they're like oh like we're gonna go to the old abandoned house um people are like oh you know you can go like see children's faces in it.

[00:18:59] I was like big thing it's like sick so we all went and then we came back and then we were just like hanging out like playing video games or something like that and then a few more people

[00:19:07] come and they're like oh we're gonna go check it out if you want to come we're like no we just went and saw we're not really interested so everyone else goes except for me and my roommate

[00:19:15] and we're just like chill on playing video games we're like let's scare them like let's absolutely terrify them so we sprint on the on the tracks and we're like right as soon as we

[00:19:27] we see the house we see all of them are walking to the house we're like crap we just missed them we're not gonna be able to scare them in the house so we're like okay we gotta get them some

[00:19:36] other way so we go a little bit further down like 100 yards down the train tracks and they come back on the train tracks and they're there they walk toward us and one of my friends is hiding in the

[00:19:44] reeds like 20 yards in front of me and i'm hiding like right as soon as they're like about to cross me so they they walk by me they don't see me my one friend how old are you 21 we're like hanging

[00:19:57] out the reeds over there my one friend jumps out he goes everyone shut up get on the ground and literally all of them they put their hands up like this and they're like terrified one of my

[00:20:06] friends starts backing up and then i jump out from behind i go where do you think you're going everyone get down right now give us your wallets and one of my friends gets on he gets on the

[00:20:15] ground he goes oh my gosh oh my gosh he goes please don't hurt us he was like literally i feel so mad about this but they all get down they start putting out their wallets and then we like blew over

[00:20:23] like you guys are so ridiculous i can't believe you thought that we were gonna rob you they're like yeah it's in the middle of the dark woods and some two random people come out that's so

[00:20:33] crazy that was one of the funnier spookier things that i've done but eastern state penitentiary is terrifying it's a terrifying place a lot of spooky stuff happens in my house like i have so many

[00:20:42] like ghost stories of freaky stuff happening but that like that could be a whole nother podcast we'll do a spooky podcast the like the one thing that gets me every time is i have i don't have

[00:20:56] any more but i used to love having like touch lamps where like you just tap them and they turn on yeah and i had this one well i've had like three because once they turn on by themselves i get a new

[00:21:06] one so maybe it's just the switch you know like whatever but like that's the worst like i would just be in bed and the lamp is like you have to actually like touch it pretty hard to turn it on

[00:21:18] it's not like it's not it just doesn't go if you toss like a piece of paper on it like it has to be a good touch okay and then it's just like boom it just turns on in the middle of the night and

[00:21:29] then you're just sitting there or i'm just sitting there in my bed like are you serious like what's happening so then i'd like do i just get up and turn it off is like they're gonna be a person

[00:21:38] there when i turn it off you know like in the movies where the lights on and then there's a person and then it's off yeah lots of like lights going on and off doors yeah that is my one

[00:21:47] terrifying thing like anytime i like turn a light on and off real quick like if it's if it's off and i have to turn it on and i turn it back off then i turn it back on i'm like as soon as i turn it off

[00:21:57] i know that someone's gonna pop up and i send her back on there's she's waiting for me and looking at me it's like a terrifying thing one time i was like in my closet and there was a box of

[00:22:07] band-aids that was on its side and i was just like milling around my closet cleaning up and it just boop it just stood up yeah and i was like nope nope nope nope and that was it like literally

[00:22:21] against gravity i don't understand how it happened so there's someone died in the house i'm pretty sure the first the guy that had it oh so you're living in a haunted house yeah it's a lot of

[00:22:34] stories gross i can't do that i can't either i live in fear i live in constant fear run across the hallway in the middle of the night oh gosh it's ridiculous it's not fun i can do that any

[00:22:51] other questions in this chapter because i can't talk about creepy things anymore um no this chapter no i feel like we covered it um okay let's go to chapter two chapter two is the scar and there's

[00:23:02] not a ton that happens in this chapter to be completely honest we forgot to give a summary of the first chapter by the way well who cares i'll give you my summary yeah nice okay this is for

[00:23:11] chapter one okay chapter one opens presumably where book three left off with wormtail rejoining voldemort and begins to explain the story of the murder of mr and mrs riddle which we didn't even talk about that yeah this chapter narrates frank eavesdropping on a conversation among

[00:23:28] voldemort pedigree nagini in which they threatened to kill harry potter voldy kills frank too sad what do you think with riddles um i don't know what to think about the riddles like could

[00:23:43] mr and mrs riddle have been fine like the town didn't like them right they said they were awful people yeah but then there's that random kid and i was like maybe that kid is

[00:23:54] some like i thought the pale boy who was last seen i was like is that voldemort after like he becomes his weird snake kind of self like okay that person instead of just normal tom riddle

[00:24:11] but i don't know i just marked it and i was like we'll come back to it eventually exactly yeah like the sixth book is when we'll come back to a lot of this stuff um not that a lot of this is answered

[00:24:22] but it gives us a little bit of a timeline for when he's voldemort versus when he's tom riddle all that kind of stuff great questions we just can't answer them yet all right uh chapter two

[00:24:32] you have a summary for chapter two i do harry potter wakes up in his bed in privet drive to his scar burning and a vague memory of the scenes playing out in the previous chapter

[00:24:42] he debates what to do and who to tell finally deciding to send his first letter to sirius black which i'm not sure if it was his first letter it didn't really say if he wrote back to

[00:24:52] sirius's yeah because sirius wrote him two letters but i don't think harry wrote him it's lazy of harry i would be writing a letter every single day yeah are you a letter writer

[00:25:04] i love letters they're the best like i don't know what else can i say what was the last letter that you wrote and like mailed um i okay i wrote a letter but i didn't mail it like two weeks ago i

[00:25:20] hand delivered it wow that's even better i don't know and then the one that i mailed summer i guess so a few months nice that's more than a few months yeah maybe it's fall i don't

[00:25:33] know they're fun yeah good letter letter writing is fun i used to do with my friend all the time done in a while though um this is kind of about harry scarhurst um why do you think harry scarhurst

[00:25:44] because voldemort is 200 miles away and that's close enough which is crazy because he knows that that means that voldemort's nearby yeah and he's like oh that's there's no way that he could be

[00:25:56] near yeah like why is there no way of course there's a way that voldemort could be here like i was just like what are you doing but like what is it about the um anatomy of his scar

[00:26:08] why does it like hurt whenever voldemort is near or whenever voldemort's showing like crazy or like murdering or something like that i don't know it's probably like to his soul or

[00:26:18] something that he can like feel his presence i don't know i guess that's part of being a horcrux is that like maybe he has voldemort's soul in him and then it like wants to like rejoin

[00:26:35] i don't know why it would hurt though because i feel like it would almost be like in lord of the rings like the pull of the ring yeah like put it on yeah yeah for sure but i don't know why it just

[00:26:46] hurts it's just deeper than the flesh i guess my answer in this one in this chapter that i have of okay so like again how did harry survive that's a question but there's another one of voldemort's

[00:27:01] uh the line says as far as he knew he was the only living person to have survived a curse like voldemort maybe a weird one but do you think that there's anybody else in the world who's just

[00:27:09] survived a killing curse and again how did harry survive do you remember how harry survived because his mom's love yeah protected like cheesy his mom's love you know yeah when you're asking the

[00:27:19] wizarding world if someone else survived do you think like because if it's just a uh someone casting themselves in front for love and could this have happened with another person i think

[00:27:31] you'd have to be no because i think throwing the killing curse around is not like a light-hearted activity that everyone's willing to do yeah but like and i don't think the love for a lot of people

[00:27:47] would be there like that's uncanny and i don't know why people would be killing like mothers and children like they're usually the last ones but i don't know because i'm picturing like a love

[00:27:59] triangle and someone like being like no like you can't have her and just like killed them but the love protected them but i don't think that's strong enough yeah all right love triangle going on is

[00:28:10] this a leading question is there no it's just a curiosity i'm just kind of curious what you think about that um let's go over chapter three too because again there's not a ton that happens in

[00:28:19] chapter two unless you have any more points in chapter two you want to talk about do the dursleys know that sirius black is harry's godfather because they know he's a murderer and they know who serious

[00:28:31] black is but did they did harry connect those dots why do you think he should have um i don't know that's actually a great question i don't know maybe they didn't maybe they connected that's

[00:28:41] maybe they didn't the news was like oh they found him or like they tried to cover it up and then he can't actually say it's serious black because then he's like a that seems like a lie yeah i don't

[00:28:53] know i gotta try to remember that maybe they do know about it and maybe that's why harry keeps him in fear because he has a murdering godfather a murdering in quotes yeah he leverages that yeah

[00:29:04] a lot so they probably do know actually that is something that guy that it's serious black was on the news yeah would you have told dumbledore that your scar was hurting or who would you have told

[00:29:16] me personally no because i'm very uh i'll suffer on my own like but okay you also understand that your suffering means that like the greatest threat to the nation is nearby so let's add that to the

[00:29:35] like where where is he oh he's right there um yeah with that added to the mix i think harry has maybe more of a responsibility to tell dumbledore these things um i don't think i would personally say

[00:29:48] anything though if it was just like you know your scar was hurting i would just suck it up because i don't want to maybe one of the biggest things about me is i don't want to necessarily be a

[00:29:57] bother to some people so like i feel like it'd be a bother like what's going on in harry's mind is kind of going on in my mind too is like he doesn't want to sell dumbledore because he's like

[00:30:06] i don't want to be a bother to these people and the same is happening in my mind where i'm like i don't want to tell this person this because i don't want to like annoy this person and then for

[00:30:15] them to be like harry stop telling me these things obviously it would never happen but it's like still a fear that he has and then i probably wouldn't tell people too because i just want to figure out

[00:30:23] myself because i'm very cerebral and so like if i have an issue that's going on i want to figure that issue out completely on my own and then be able to share that with other people which isn't

[00:30:33] healthy but you know we're all working through our issues but at least you know yourself that's what counts yeah would you i don't know it's the fact that dumbledore is such a huge threat

[00:30:45] that makes me feel like it's almost my duty to like tell people because if i just suck up the pain yeah i could be causing like death so many people's death yeah or a whole rising up of like all the

[00:31:01] death eaters and stuff so i feel like at that point i'm also i'm just like a like asset to the nation and i'm just like all right this is like my duty i just have to just suck it up and just tell people

[00:31:14] because like the world could be going to flames and we're gonna be in danger if you don't tell dumbledore about your scar hurting it's a great point but i also don't want to tell dumbledore

[00:31:24] because i don't like trust him yet yeah so i don't know you're in quite the conundrum here i know i think i would just wait it out honestly like how he did and then maybe i would be like so like if

[00:31:38] my scar was hurting like what would that hypothetically speaking if we ever get in this situation and do like after the fact what do i do yeah but why does he think it's so crazy that dumbledore

[00:31:51] is near like i do not understand that why does he think it's so crazy that what that not dumbledore that voldemort is nearby because he's like there's no way he's close enough what if he's telling the

[00:32:04] truth and what if he's not what so like he's telling the truth yeah who's telling the truth that he he doesn't think he's close enough but it he knows from experience yeah that you're

[00:32:17] how you have to be close right but like what what's what's the proximity of how close he has to be does he have to be within like you know talking distance like this because he was walking around

[00:32:30] coral all the time and he was in the back girl's head and harry's scar didn't hurt all the time when he was in hogwarts which it should have we're talking about proximity here unless voldemort is

[00:32:41] 25 feet away in the other house why would a scar be hurting if it was 200 miles away is it like tied to emotions because voldemort's killing someone and that's super like a really heightened experience yeah so that's why i probably in this book is where it progresses to

[00:32:58] not only is it proximity but it's voldemort experiencing deep emotions harry feels and does voldemort ever feel anything from harry's side we'll see we shall see okay all right uh it's it's a tough one yeah i'm not gonna give away that much but

[00:33:18] because he is kind of omniscient and he knows where he is anyways i feel like yeah exactly yeah so yep whatever all right let's go over chapter three speed read this all tonight then then uh chapter three is the invitation give me a quick summary of the invitation

[00:33:34] lots of letters the weasleys will be taking harry to the quidditch world cup my summaries are not that's great phenomenal they're just there this time no that's great because literally that's pretty much all that happens they uh they just got a bunch of

[00:33:50] letters and harry's reading a bunch of letters the descriptions of aunt petunia in this chapter my favorite thing what are some of the reads on them hang on i gotta find it okay aunt petunia was cutting a grapefruit into quarters her lips pursed over her horse-like teeth

[00:34:08] that is so crazy that is a wild one that is so funny um this sentence i you read this sentence in the other podcast but i'm gonna read again because i had this idea before i heard the

[00:34:20] podcast the school nurse had sent had seen what aunt petunia's eyes so sharp when it came to spotting fingerprints on her gleaming walls and in observing the comings and goings of the neighbors simply refused to see that far from needing extra nourishment dudley had reached

[00:34:36] roughly the size and weight of a young killer whale i just love this sentence structure like the eyes like so keen yep that was a good one she is yeah she's a good writer again i think we talked

[00:34:49] about this in the first book but she leaves her surprises till the end of the second the uh the sentence too so like roughly the size of a killer whale it's like makes you laugh but if it was

[00:34:57] earlier on the whole rest of the sentence would be boring she knows how to structure sentences really well she's a very good sentence writer yeah i'm a fan of her sentence writing i agree

[00:35:04] yeah and her insults are great she throws out some great insults in this one the horse teeth one is one that sticks with me all the time now i just like i can picture that i know i just picture

[00:35:13] her with like these huge teeth that like are coming like out of her out of her uh mouth she has like a huge overbite or something like that yeah um here's an animal animal rights question is

[00:35:25] it abusive to send errol the owl who is this old owl who can barely make it is it abusive to send this owl to harry for with a letter i was allowed to stop on the way yeah they are okay um then

[00:35:41] probably not i guess they're allowed to stop i've actually never thought about that like i don't if he can stop and take breaks and be okay that's fine but yeah it's definitely he's not the ideal

[00:35:54] candidate like there's he's in bad shape but i guess the wisest decision would be to buy a new owl or another owl and then send that one instead and then just keep arrow as like your loving pet

[00:36:08] yeah right yeah he's like a pet he transitions from a working working pet so just like a pet that you love like he can just fly around the baron yeah exactly give him like packages to deliver to the people around the house you know

[00:36:20] yes cute little jobs like that um have you ever eaten birthday cake for breakfast oh yeah for sure oh yeah yeah like anytime there's cake whatever i'm cake lying around of course yeah breakfast is a construct like i'll eat whatever

[00:36:39] i want for breakfast pretty much most american breakfast is like cake anyway it's like pancakes yeah literally pancakes with whipped cream on it and fruit or like chocolate chips it's like you're eating dessert anyway or we're just disguising it yeah i have totally eaten cake

[00:36:54] for breakfast but have you eaten how long would that cake last in floorboards that's a real question in four because he pulls it out from these floorboards and how long has this cake

[00:37:06] been sitting there like how long would i let it sit there and eat it how clean is my floor um one week max the seventh day is the last time on the seventh day you're like scoop

[00:37:24] spooning away the mold sections and like it's still good it's still good it's like blue cheese is it like gosh it's a homemade cake or it's full of preservatives because preservatives last forever that's true and like when i'm picturing the quintessential birthday cake it's full of

[00:37:42] preservatives yeah that's true that's a great point wasn't it baked by haggard though so i don't know if it's preservative maybe it's the mrs weasley was it baked or hermione i forgot who

[00:37:52] the cake was baked by now i'll cut haggard's honestly would last forever yeah like those are bricks exactly it's a brick it's meant to last forever yeah um any other points in this this

[00:38:04] chapter before we got to four no all right chapter four give me a summary back to back to the burrow back to the burrow via the magic of flu powder the dursleys and weasleys have an eventful meeting

[00:38:18] fred and george give dudley an engorging toffee and his tongue becomes huge mr weasley has to stay back and fix him while being pelted with objects from uncle vernon this chapter annoys really thank you so much why it's just like messy and they should have done

[00:38:39] better and it's annoying and it just irks me to read this i hate it this annoys me so much for the same reasons i'm like the weasleys are lazy mr weasley needs to do his

[00:38:53] research and realize the proper way to enter a house via muggle they're such a mess like no they just come clamoring in wherever they go and it's like never i don't know i would have

[00:39:06] knocked on the door hello thank you everything's nice and cordial because i feel like you're also creating like the reputation around uh yeah around harry too where if you leave a good impression

[00:39:21] the dursleys might be totally happy to let him stay with you forever and ever yeah but i feel like they're jeopardizing that for her wow that's actually a fascinating one i've never thought about

[00:39:31] that if they're nicer to harry maybe they'll go let him harry stay over there rather than like because they were terrible they want to punish harry even more and make him stay with the

[00:39:42] dursleys even longer dang that's depressing but this one annoys me so much because i'm like the dursleys need to be able to do better in this situation the dursleys oh sorry the uh no the

[00:39:51] weasleys yeah it's just like an invasion of privacy too like if i'm the dursleys in this situation and someone just comes blasting through your chimney like that and there's a mess in the house

[00:40:01] i and this is one of the few chapters that i truly understand the dursleys point of view because i'm like if someone just comes through a chimney and my whole entire apartment is like in

[00:40:11] shambles i don't care if they can fix it i don't care i don't like i'm not gonna fig like learn if they can fix it really quick i don't know if i care about that that much i'm like great i have

[00:40:20] to pay all this i'm so mad and frustrated that happened i'm like completely sympathetic with the dursleys here yeah the weasleys did not do great no the dursleys did nothing wrong yeah i

[00:40:32] i'm with them their reactions are normal yeah like magic is happening in their house they hate magic and even just for the weasleys to assume or mr weasley to assume that oh i'll just magic away

[00:40:45] whatever is like happening you're not even supposed to act like that in a normal house yeah and thankfully it is the dursleys who understand how magic works but if it wasn't them he'd probably

[00:40:57] have to do some memory charm yeah like undo all this damage but they i think the kids also have a little vendetta against the dursleys and they want to see and they don't care about how they

[00:41:11] react to anything yeah but to be honest none of the kids should probably have gone if you're if you're taking harry that should have been this these things should be like

[00:41:21] ministry mandated or looked at like if you're going to pick up harry i guess i guess this is all normal so maybe they shouldn't mandate this but like if you're going to pick up harry you

[00:41:32] don't have to bring all your like half your family with you they just go to the house after right yeah yeah i'm like just bring ron maybe just to like say hi you don't need to bring the twins

[00:41:43] but the twins they go because they want to torture dudley a little bit this is true yeah yeah because he could have just driven a car down there pick them up or um like you don't know apparition yet

[00:41:57] or apparition but like they could just operate all you do yeah didn't anybody operate in the books yeah to the quidditch world cup no that's that's uh that's not operating oh well yeah actually

[00:42:08] no you're bill they took um um bill and charlie operated and percy operated there's a lot of operating in this book really yeah all of the ministry officials operate straight to the oh

[00:42:20] that's right that's right that's right yeah yeah i thought you were talking about the what's the object that they all use why am i blanking in the word the porky pork yeah yeah i thought you're

[00:42:29] talking about that yeah there's a lot of operating in this book um they should have just operated right outside the dursley's house and like then they could just knock on the door i'm like why

[00:42:39] isn't there like a 101 course of how to talk to a muggle in the wizarding world yeah and mr weasley should know that yes literally head of the head of the office about muggles ridiculous

[00:42:52] i don't know um has anything uh let me i'll ask that one later but what do you think is the deal with petunia because out of all of them there's a there's a lot of magic happening right now but

[00:43:01] out of all of them being scared of magic petunia seems by far the scaredest why do you think that she's like terrified of magic because her sister probably used magic against her oh dang that's

[00:43:12] dark i'm guessing wow it's dark like she probably played tricks on her and bullied her i don't know i don't know their relationship but i'm assuming based on the fear that like something really bad

[00:43:27] happened to her dang or like she probably did all these weird things that fred and george are doing but like doing them to petunia what's what's um thanks so petunia mrs potter's name lily lily

[00:43:42] yeah lily and petunia was maybe messing around too much ouch that hurts we'll see we'll see if that's the case it's then there's a concrete answer to this yeah yeah um anything else in

[00:43:59] this chapter before we go into the final one for this one nope all right let's talk about weasley wizard wheezes give me a quick summary of this um harry uses the flu powder suddenly part of the

[00:44:10] crazy and lovable weasley home we meet bill and charlie learn that percy works for mr crouch as well as get a lot of time with the weasleys um yeah perfect um so we learned about bill and

[00:44:24] charlie and one works with dragons and the other works at gringotts which one would you rather do and if you were a wizard what would you want your job to really be well my theory which one's bill

[00:44:36] is the uh grave robber right is that which is a great theory um wait what does charlie do he works with dragons in romania and works with dragons right he was the guy that took norbert

[00:44:48] in the first book i would do that yeah i'd be with the dragon yes yeah that'd be fun you would be a good magizoologist like someone that works with animals that'd be fun the uh the first uh

[00:45:00] extra movie fantastic piece in where to find them is kind of about a magizoologist who's great i love him he's like my one of my favorite characters in the whole saga he's great but i feel like you'd

[00:45:09] you'd thrive in that just taking care of animals and like beasts i would like haggard's job honestly like just doing random tasks all day i don't know it seems pretty fun yeah for real be a professor

[00:45:25] yeah teach a few classes go to the uh keep the grounds and just kind of go hang out with cool animals because your own little house on the ground you can keep it as simple as you want

[00:45:37] there's a refrigerator in there or not we don't know yet but yeah yeah what would you do um something like that would be fun um if i would like i i kind of see myself as oliver woodish here

[00:45:58] when i was in high school like i was very much in the sports like very much yeah kind of like lead on so when he goes and plays reserves for a pro team i'm like that's

[00:46:07] probably what the direction that would go on if i was a wizard but then i don't know what i would do after maybe work with animals i'll go be your your assistant haggard to me haggard

[00:46:20] you're haggard i couldn't figure out how to say that yeah there's so many wizarding jobs that like haven't even crossed my mind but when you think about quidditch there's probably like yeah so many jobs just within that yeah there's a ton of jobs yeah just within quidditch

[00:46:38] there's a ton of jobs in the wizarding world we'll talk about those more um especially in the fifth book because harry kind of has a deep dive with one of the professors about what he wants to

[00:46:47] do with his career so we'll talk about this more in the fifth book but it's a fascinating discussion anyway can i be a robe maker a robe maker yeah you can make cool robes yeah that'd be fun yeah

[00:46:59] you can adopt like a wand you can work with madame malkins or olivanders olivanders would really be my like one of my favorite things does he like carve them out himself yeah it's a great question

[00:47:10] for how he actually makes them no one knows it's a family tradition passed down from generation to generation and no one really knows because like my question is how do you get the core in the wand

[00:47:21] that's my question too yeah i don't know like is it surgical is it you'd like put a little pinhole in it and like just shove it in like a tiny little bit at a time it takes like hours and hours and

[00:47:30] hours so finally you get it in there and it's good yeah i'm assuming you can just magic it together before the wand itself is magical yeah it'd be lovely i don't know or being an auror we learned what that was yeah that'd be great seems really cool um

[00:47:48] we can talk about this more during when we meet more of the teachers but if i was any teacher i would love to be the history of magic teacher i'd love to take over ben's job

[00:47:58] i love history yeah ben's is great that's like are you trying to do that because you just love history or because you want like to nerd out more and both every one of these kids understands how cool this is yes because there's so much

[00:48:19] i there has to be so much cool like wizard history that we don't know so it'd be so fun to like look into that and write books on that and talk about the history of things that are happening

[00:48:31] in the wizarding world but also ben's is such a boring teacher that should be such a fun class like any of your history classes should be so fun but all my history classes growing up were so

[00:48:40] boring because my teachers were so boring but he's like the perfect history teacher then exactly yeah yeah he fits he fits the description perfectly what a boring history teacher is all about yeah which i hate come on make history fun guys

[00:48:57] any other points in this this chapter before you wrap it up i just feel like this is when i really start to like ron oh really why he just has a lot of good lines and it's fun to see their whole

[00:49:07] family interacting together like this chapter and chapter six are very similar they just kind of combine to me in my mind but yeah i really like ron ron's so good uh he's like one of my favorites

[00:49:20] he's the best i mean it's kind of he's getting there like all my rankings of them are all yeah yeah for sure yeah yeah uh who was your favorite character in these five chapters

[00:49:38] probably i don't know um let me think i want to say like bill or charlie but they really didn't do anything like they just were mentioned names in these um maybe ron probably just for chapter

[00:49:55] yeah i'm gonna i like the twins all the time but these are this is one of the only chapters where i don't like them because they bait dudley like that and i'm like look i know he's a mean guy and i

[00:50:04] know dudley sucks but that's not how you're going to solve the problem you're probably gonna make the problem worse for harry later when he comes back because dudley's gonna be furious at harry over

[00:50:12] the whatever that happened here they push it too far yeah i know yeah one of the only chapters i don't like them here um i think my favorite moment in this one these these five is just harry eating

[00:50:24] a meal with all of them like he's at the uh borough and they're just chilling and they're eating a meal and harry's like everyone no one here dislikes me i'm like having a meal it's just

[00:50:34] not like a bunch of people who are like just truly your friends and you're just hanging out with them i love those things like i get to sit and have dinner with a bunch of people that are like friends

[00:50:44] like every night of the week even though i'm like extremely introverted i love just chilling with people yeah eating good food swapping stories give me a good campfire or something like that i mean what's your favorite moment um i really like all the letters that i've

[00:51:01] written i don't know if that's like technically a moment but it's a good moment i just like the letters you want to sign us off thanks for joining us on our journey i need to do it in my normal

[00:51:13] voice yeah thanks for joining us on our journey of harry potter and the second time readers peace bye