[00:00:00] All right, let's do our final intro. Welcome to the podcast. I'm Jon, Jen, Danny, and Kristen. And this is Harry Potter and the First Time Readers.
[00:00:10] That can't be our last one. Well, a lot of people submitted tons of questions for you guys. So we did a few before but I still want to go over some of these other ones that we'll probably kind of talk through.
[00:00:39] And to start off, one of the most popular and common questions that we got was just do you guys like Harry as a character?
[00:00:51] Actually, hold on. Time out. Let's start with this question. Even a more basic question than that. Did you guys like the series?
[00:01:01] No. I loved the series!
[00:01:07] You liked it. And you loved it.
[00:01:11] Yeah. Cheating answer, but yeah.
[00:01:15] I think it was so hyped up.
[00:01:18] Yeah.
[00:01:19] That I wasn't... I don't know what I was expecting.
[00:01:24] I enjoyed it.
[00:01:25] I mean, yeah. It was hyped up for you and we were doing literally a podcast about it, getting to the end of it.
[00:01:31] So when it got to the end of it, I could imagine in some way it was like, oh, okay.
[00:01:36] Yeah.
[00:01:38] Yeah.
[00:01:38] Like it was good. It was a great series, but like it wasn't life changing.
[00:01:41] Yeah.
[00:01:42] Yeah.
[00:01:43] So maybe if it was faster paced?
[00:01:45] I don't know.
[00:01:47] But then I wouldn't have gotten to like dig into all the...
[00:01:50] Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
[00:01:51] Nitty gritty stuff.
[00:01:52] Yeah.
[00:01:52] And you sacrifice again, everyone thanks you guys because you sacrifice your reading experience for all of us.
[00:01:57] So we could vicariously live through you.
[00:02:00] So that was huge.
[00:02:02] Yeah.
[00:02:02] No, it was...
[00:02:03] It's been fun and I'm glad I know how it ends.
[00:02:06] Yeah, exactly.
[00:02:07] You don't have to fit around squares anymore.
[00:02:09] I don't know how I survived this long.
[00:02:11] I know, seriously.
[00:02:12] But I didn't.
[00:02:13] How about Harry as a character?
[00:02:15] Do you guys like Harry as a character?
[00:02:19] Yeah.
[00:02:19] I think majority, yes.
[00:02:21] There was one book that he was so annoying in.
[00:02:24] I don't remember.
[00:02:25] Probably the fifth one.
[00:02:26] I don't remember.
[00:02:26] I was just going to say, fifth book.
[00:02:27] I don't know what Phoenix is usually the book city he's annoying in.
[00:02:29] Where he's like moody all the time and grumpy and...
[00:02:32] That was probably it.
[00:02:32] Like snapping at Hermione around.
[00:02:34] Yeah, not being a good friend.
[00:02:35] Yeah.
[00:02:36] That was it.
[00:02:36] Yeah.
[00:02:37] Yep.
[00:02:37] Order of the Phoenix was...
[00:02:39] I don't remember.
[00:02:40] Yeah.
[00:02:40] Yeah.
[00:02:40] After Cedric died, I feel like it was kind of like...
[00:02:43] Yeah, like a depressed...
[00:02:44] It affected him a lot.
[00:02:45] Yeah, yeah.
[00:02:47] And that's...
[00:02:48] Yeah, okay.
[00:02:49] I think so.
[00:02:51] What about you?
[00:02:52] I feel like I always liked him.
[00:02:56] Um...
[00:02:56] Like you said, moments that I wasn't his biggest fan.
[00:03:00] Um...
[00:03:01] But with all you guys to keep me in check, Kristen would always say, he's a teenager!
[00:03:06] Give him a say!
[00:03:07] What was he doing at 14 or whatever?
[00:03:08] Alright, fair enough.
[00:03:10] That was good.
[00:03:10] Because it was easy to forget his age or situation and just be judgy.
[00:03:17] Thank you.
[00:03:20] So, yeah.
[00:03:21] I, uh...
[00:03:22] I did like him as a character though.
[00:03:23] And then especially seeing his...
[00:03:25] His whole arc, I feel like it was very satisfying.
[00:03:32] And I feel like it was good.
[00:03:34] Every character has to have a bit of growth, low moments, high moments.
[00:03:39] Um...
[00:03:39] And, yeah, even Kristen from...
[00:03:41] From meeting it from like for a second time, did your opinion of Harry change at all?
[00:03:46] Mmm...
[00:03:50] Not really.
[00:03:50] I didn't really have a strong opinion of him.
[00:03:52] Yeah.
[00:03:53] To begin with.
[00:03:54] Yeah, for sure.
[00:03:54] To be honest, I...
[00:03:56] Didn't really like...
[00:03:58] Well, I didn't like pick apart the series like that when I was watching the movies.
[00:04:03] Yeah.
[00:04:03] Cause that's what I knew.
[00:04:05] Oh, right.
[00:04:05] Um...
[00:04:06] I just liked the storyline as a whole.
[00:04:10] I guess.
[00:04:11] Right, right.
[00:04:12] So...
[00:04:13] But yeah, I like him.
[00:04:16] It's nothing like...
[00:04:17] Yeah.
[00:04:18] Over the top.
[00:04:19] Yeah, for sure.
[00:04:20] Weirdly, I think the more people...
[00:04:21] The more someone reads the series, the more they actually really love Harry.
[00:04:25] So the first time I read it, I remember being like, oh, he's like a cool character.
[00:04:28] I really like him.
[00:04:28] And every single time that I read it now, I'm like more and more impressed of a character.
[00:04:32] Like how he is as a character.
[00:04:34] Mmm.
[00:04:34] Um...
[00:04:35] And you know...
[00:04:35] Cause it's like subtle maturing, right?
[00:04:37] Yeah.
[00:04:37] From the beginning to the end.
[00:04:38] Yeah.
[00:04:47] Even though he's a crap friend in certain parts, how good of a friend he is toward people
[00:04:53] that he loves.
[00:04:53] Like how much he cares about people.
[00:04:55] Mmm.
[00:04:55] Like it's all in there.
[00:04:56] He struggles with getting it out.
[00:04:58] But when he does get it out, he's like an exceptional person.
[00:05:03] Um...
[00:05:04] Becky and Chewy both kind of asked this question.
[00:05:07] Or this is one of Chewy's questions.
[00:05:10] It's for Danny.
[00:05:11] Have you located Hogwarts yet?
[00:05:13] When you guys went to Scotland.
[00:05:15] You looked so hard.
[00:05:17] Although, it's funny actually being in Scotland, I feel like took away some of that fun.
[00:05:23] Oh no.
[00:05:23] Because like it was a blast to be there because it was so magical everywhere.
[00:05:28] But it's not that big of a country.
[00:05:31] So it actually made it harder to picture Hogwarts in a place like that.
[00:05:36] Like, leading up to it, I don't know, maybe you didn't feel the same way, but I pictured
[00:05:42] it being more like out in the middle of nowhere.
[00:05:44] Even Loch Ness, we stayed in a little castle on the south end of the lake, you know, likely
[00:05:50] Hogwarts location.
[00:05:51] It's pretty cool.
[00:05:51] And I was like, it's weird that the whole lake is settled already.
[00:05:57] Yeah.
[00:05:57] You know, like people and towns and everywhere you go, even in remote places, you're still
[00:06:03] seeing like homes and stuff.
[00:06:05] You're never that far from civilization.
[00:06:07] We didn't go to the farthest extent of everything though.
[00:06:10] Um, that's why.
[00:06:11] And that maybe that's it.
[00:06:13] And there were, there were parts in the, in the Northeast we didn't go to where it
[00:06:18] could be, um, those snow capped mountains that Harry and Ron flew over.
[00:06:22] Um, so.
[00:06:24] It like, so looks like.
[00:06:26] Oh yeah.
[00:06:27] Like, I just don't get how you said that you can't.
[00:06:30] Well, it just makes harder to picture it.
[00:06:32] I'm like how?
[00:06:33] Because.
[00:06:33] Everything there screams like this whole scenery from Harry Potter.
[00:06:37] Yeah.
[00:06:37] Oh, you know, part of it was the scale.
[00:06:39] It felt like a very cozy place.
[00:06:41] Yeah.
[00:06:41] But the whole point is you can't see it.
[00:06:44] Um, that is true.
[00:06:45] Um, that is true.
[00:07:00] But.
[00:07:00] So.
[00:07:00] The whole thing is still floating in its own.
[00:07:02] Well, I mean, honestly, maybe that's part of the magic of the whole thing.
[00:07:05] It's so big, but I think it was just hard to picture anything of that scale there, even
[00:07:12] in Edinburgh where they have a very large castle on a hill and the whole city is built around
[00:07:18] it.
[00:07:18] Um, that castle was tiny in comparison to anything that resembles Hogwarts.
[00:07:24] So that was the only part where it was hard to actually picture.
[00:07:28] And then it just made me want to read the history of magic all the more.
[00:07:31] Um, because there could be an explanation for it easily.
[00:07:36] And obviously it is magic.
[00:07:38] So I don't need to be able to find it in the real world.
[00:07:41] But it was a disconnect.
[00:07:43] It was a disconnect.
[00:07:44] That's all I'm saying.
[00:07:48] And I was hoping I'd walk on some random location and be like, this is where Hogwarts
[00:07:52] needs to be.
[00:07:53] But I didn't find any spot like that.
[00:07:58] Um, it was very magical though, for sure.
[00:08:00] And you're, you're there and you're just like, wow, I could see JK taking everything
[00:08:05] in and writing it in her book.
[00:08:07] That's what I felt like in Edinburgh.
[00:08:09] It was really cool.
[00:08:10] That was like the coolest thing.
[00:08:11] It just felt like Hogwarts felt like all of her inspiration was coming from that city.
[00:08:15] Especially when we were next to the hotel where you said that she wrote some of it in.
[00:08:18] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:08:20] And you look across and it was, it was so cool.
[00:08:23] Like looking back at the city from where she wrote the seventh book.
[00:08:26] Yeah.
[00:08:27] It, uh.
[00:08:28] Or even the castle with the arena like set up.
[00:08:32] Oh yeah.
[00:08:32] The stadium seating they do every summer and they have flags at the top of the stadium.
[00:08:38] It literally looks like a glitch match.
[00:08:40] It really does.
[00:08:41] That's cool.
[00:08:41] That's really cool.
[00:08:42] And one of the twergers that were going, passing us said that like she was inspired by the
[00:08:46] So cool.
[00:08:47] All the flags popping up.
[00:08:48] Oh wow.
[00:08:49] And I'm like it literally is exactly that in the movies and in her books.
[00:08:53] You're right.
[00:08:53] I mean flipped but whatever.
[00:08:55] Oh, so good.
[00:08:56] Yeah, that was really cool.
[00:08:58] It'd be like, oh my gosh, it's real life.
[00:09:01] Yep.
[00:09:02] Um, how about this question?
[00:09:04] In the books, there's a lot of people who die in the books.
[00:09:06] Who did you think was the saddest death?
[00:09:09] Like who's?
[00:09:11] Dobby.
[00:09:12] Dobby's really?
[00:09:13] That was the saddest.
[00:09:16] Who else?
[00:09:17] Oh, cause Dumbledore died.
[00:09:19] Yeah, there are a few.
[00:09:21] There's a few.
[00:09:22] So I mean you had Dumbledore, you had Fred, Tonks, Lupin, Cedric.
[00:09:28] I think I was the saddest one of those.
[00:09:29] Moody, Dobby, Harry, kind of.
[00:09:32] But Moody could still be alive, right?
[00:09:34] Honestly, yeah.
[00:09:34] Yeah, we never got that confirmed for sure.
[00:09:39] Mine is based off the movies.
[00:09:41] Mine was Cedric.
[00:09:42] Oh, interesting.
[00:09:43] Yeah.
[00:09:44] In the movies, I think his is actually the saddest.
[00:09:46] Yeah.
[00:09:46] Cedric's or Hedwig's is weirdly sad in the movies too.
[00:09:50] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:09:51] I feel like Cedric's was almost anticlimactic in the books
[00:09:57] because I felt so strongly in that during the movies.
[00:10:00] Yeah.
[00:10:01] And I was like, oh man, this part is coming up.
[00:10:03] And I thought it was like gonna be super emotional in it.
[00:10:06] If I'm remembering correctly.
[00:10:08] Yeah.
[00:10:08] It wasn't.
[00:10:09] I mean, yeah.
[00:10:11] Agreed.
[00:10:11] Yeah.
[00:10:12] Yeah.
[00:10:13] I think so.
[00:10:14] That's the first death in the book.
[00:10:17] Yeah, Cedric's pretty much the first death.
[00:10:19] And especially by something evil.
[00:10:21] Yeah.
[00:10:21] I mean, there's like other deaths that happened in the books before that.
[00:10:26] But yeah, his is the actual first real death.
[00:10:29] Like of a character that we kind of know.
[00:10:31] Mm-hmm.
[00:10:32] And I think I said it during those recordings.
[00:10:35] I feel like the pain of Cedric's death followed us for another book after that.
[00:10:40] So we got to unpack that as Harry did.
[00:10:43] Mm-hmm.
[00:10:43] And that made the pain of it feel more substantial.
[00:10:48] Because it was the first one.
[00:10:51] Mm-hmm.
[00:10:52] I feel like Dumbledore's death was probably the biggest impact.
[00:10:56] Mm-hmm.
[00:10:58] It was more annoying, I think.
[00:11:00] Yeah.
[00:11:01] To be honest, yeah.
[00:11:02] Yeah, fair.
[00:11:03] There were elements of that.
[00:11:04] And Dobby, of course.
[00:11:06] Fred.
[00:11:06] I think Dobby was the worst though, because he was like just freed.
[00:11:10] Yeah.
[00:11:10] He was just so excited.
[00:11:12] Mm-hmm.
[00:11:13] Um, he had this whole new life.
[00:11:15] He's like this innocent creature that's just trying to help.
[00:11:19] And it was shocking the whole like, ugh.
[00:11:21] And like, he was just helping.
[00:11:23] Yep.
[00:11:24] Which, I mean, I guess they all were helping, but like, I don't know.
[00:11:27] It happened too fast.
[00:11:29] Yeah.
[00:11:29] And his whole character was just like, it was just sweet.
[00:11:33] Like, something innocent, I feel like is more hurtful.
[00:11:37] Mm-hmm.
[00:11:37] Like, seeing them die or get hurt or anything.
[00:11:41] Yeah.
[00:11:42] Yeah.
[00:11:42] Because he's like the epitome of just an innocent character.
[00:11:46] Him and Con Creavy and Dennis Creavy, like all that, the whole-
[00:11:50] Oh, yeah.
[00:11:51] All three of them are just the innocent, fun-loving people.
[00:11:54] And yeah, his death kind of hits you because of that.
[00:11:56] It just kind of crushes you a little bit.
[00:11:59] They're all sad, but I think that one got me in the movie.
[00:12:01] Yeah.
[00:12:02] You wouldn't be, you'd probably be in the majority there.
[00:12:04] I would say the majority of people who answered that question would probably say Dobby's as well.
[00:12:08] I think that's like the most devastating one for fans.
[00:12:11] Mm-hmm.
[00:12:12] And speaking of fans, there's another question that came in.
[00:12:15] What do you guys think of the fandom now that you've finished the books?
[00:12:18] Do you think it's like, especially that you guys have saw, you guys saw, you know,
[00:12:22] we went to King's Cross on September 1st.
[00:12:25] You saw like the fans in full force.
[00:12:28] I'm not one of them.
[00:12:30] You can't claim that now, honey.
[00:12:33] Yes, seriously.
[00:12:35] You're in it.
[00:12:38] You're a bigger fan than me.
[00:12:40] But it is funny.
[00:12:42] I still feel like a bit of imposter syndrome about it, where some people are such big fans
[00:12:48] that I feel like it's different for us or we're still new fans, especially compared to
[00:12:55] people who have been fans for, you know, a decade.
[00:12:58] Yeah.
[00:12:59] Then it still feels funny to be around people.
[00:13:01] Yeah.
[00:13:02] Or it also feels like I have to hold back a little bit because in a lot of environments,
[00:13:07] I'm still getting so excited about these things and people are like, what are you nuts?
[00:13:11] Like this is old news.
[00:13:12] Like, um, so it is, it is a funny dynamic, but I do think all the fans in general are pretty
[00:13:20] cool.
[00:13:21] Um, it's like a welcoming fandom.
[00:13:24] You know, everyone's excited.
[00:13:26] Yeah.
[00:13:26] Anyone who's a fan is just so happy to have other people who also are fans.
[00:13:31] It really is.
[00:13:32] I think one of the best fandoms in the world, Star Wars is so divisive for certain things.
[00:13:35] Yeah.
[00:13:36] Harry Potter is becoming a little divisive for the series that's coming out.
[00:13:40] Um, but it still is just like a very warm, welcoming fandom compared to other ones where
[00:13:45] it's like you jump in and people are just happy to have you.
[00:13:47] The first question they're asking is like, you know what house you're in?
[00:13:49] And like, that's all they care about.
[00:13:50] And I do think that's a fascinating part of the fandom that it goes beyond the story itself.
[00:13:56] Hmm.
[00:13:58] Where it feels like, um, in a lot of fandoms, it is so based on the story, Star Wars, you
[00:14:04] might get in debates about different things, but in Harry Potter at a certain point, the
[00:14:09] story of Harry Potter is not what people are talking about.
[00:14:13] Yeah.
[00:14:13] It's the houses and it's the world that they're talking about.
[00:14:17] And I think that is a kind of endearing, cozy, warm fandom.
[00:14:22] Yeah.
[00:14:22] It's a great point.
[00:14:23] Like it's the world that she's built out that fans are really attracted to.
[00:14:26] Do you know like they love the story, which actually is another interesting question.
[00:14:30] This is one of the biggest ones that people talk about.
[00:14:32] If you could, if you, if like you were in charge of an HBO series that wasn't on Harry
[00:14:37] Potter, but it was something in the wizarding world, what would you guys make?
[00:14:40] Like what part of the wizarding world would you want to go into?
[00:14:44] Wow.
[00:14:44] A lot of people say the founders.
[00:14:46] I'll give you a few examples.
[00:14:47] A lot of people say the founders, they would love a founder series.
[00:14:49] A lot of people say the Marauders, they would love a series on the Marauders.
[00:14:52] A lot of people talk about like a CSI kind of show with Harry Potter.
[00:14:55] Or like a, like a, like a cops with like the, uh, the auras or something like that.
[00:15:03] My instinct would be to make the world much bigger and see wizarding elements in other parts
[00:15:11] of the world.
[00:15:11] But I think if I had time to plan it all out, that would betray part of the magic of Harry
[00:15:18] Potter because you never want to lose that coziness.
[00:15:23] So even with the HBO series, I get excited about some of the things they can explore.
[00:15:28] Um, the founders feels perfect because you can do a lot and it connects really easily
[00:15:34] to the world we already know.
[00:15:36] And there's some, some nice threads you can pull there.
[00:15:40] But I think the Marauders would be tough because you're going to, you're going to be stepping
[00:15:45] on some toes as soon as you do that because you're affecting the way someone already pictures
[00:15:50] a character maybe.
[00:15:52] Um, oh man, that'd be tough.
[00:15:55] But I feel like what?
[00:15:57] You know what I picture the Marauders as?
[00:15:58] Yeah.
[00:15:58] More of a sitcom.
[00:16:00] Totally changed the entire vibe.
[00:16:02] Wow, that's funny.
[00:16:03] That would be great.
[00:16:04] That would be so great.
[00:16:04] Because it's, you've got that camaraderie, make it totally new and don't come at it like
[00:16:10] trying to recreate Harry Potter, but make it funny.
[00:16:14] They're funny.
[00:16:15] Yeah.
[00:16:15] You know, like they were, yeah, they were always getting into trouble.
[00:16:19] Like, I don't know.
[00:16:21] I feel like that would be fun just to like make a fun side thing instead of it being
[00:16:26] so like serious because the books get very serious.
[00:16:30] Right.
[00:16:31] You know, I could, I could actually kind of see that even the stuff with Snape, Snape took
[00:16:38] it as his worst memory, but you could actually picture that from the other perspective, not
[00:16:44] feeling as intense as it did from Snape's side.
[00:16:49] Yeah, or sinister, yeah.
[00:16:49] So I could see that being kind of like a rom-com high school vibe or even a sitcom, you know?
[00:16:59] I feel like that would be cool.
[00:17:00] Mm-hmm.
[00:17:01] But there are so many other parts of the world that I'm, I'm not sad, but in a sense,
[00:17:08] sad she didn't explore.
[00:17:09] So if there were other things like separate from Harry Potter, I feel like it would just
[00:17:15] be so cool to explore things she barely hinted at.
[00:17:19] Yeah.
[00:17:20] Other schools would be easy and you would have complete freedom over the story.
[00:17:25] Mm-hmm.
[00:17:26] So it'd be fun to explore that.
[00:17:27] That's why I was just talking to someone, I want a whole series about Elvermorny.
[00:17:31] Yeah.
[00:17:31] Like that.
[00:17:32] That feels like.
[00:17:32] It's a blank slate.
[00:17:34] You could do whatever you want with it.
[00:17:35] Writers are like salivating over something like that.
[00:17:37] And as long as you keep it contained, because that's my biggest fear with HBO and everything,
[00:17:42] you don't want it to turn into, well, no hate on Marvel, but just the idea that when
[00:17:48] you see enough of these movies, everyone gets a little bigger, the enemies get a little
[00:17:52] more powerful.
[00:17:55] Mm-hmm.
[00:17:57] Like, you could do that again easily with each of the schools.
[00:18:23] Mm-hmm.
[00:18:24] Because in the end, none of the other schools even came to help Hogwarts with this, right?
[00:18:29] Like, I'm trying to picture that.
[00:18:30] Yeah.
[00:18:31] Yeah, exactly.
[00:18:31] It was still kind of isolated to one school.
[00:18:33] It was very contained.
[00:18:34] It would be fun to see like a Durmstrang one of Grindelwald.
[00:18:40] Yeah.
[00:18:40] Like what he went through at Durmstrang.
[00:18:42] Yeah.
[00:18:42] Like what the students thought of him, if he got a lot of people on his side.
[00:18:46] It'd be kind of interesting, I think.
[00:18:48] Agreed.
[00:18:48] Um, and then speaking of, speaking of even villains, what do you guys think of Voldemort
[00:18:53] as a villain?
[00:18:54] Like in your media expertise of like watching all these movies and seeing like reading books
[00:19:00] about villains, like, you know, there's so many great villains out there.
[00:19:04] What do you think of Voldemort and how he stacks up?
[00:19:07] Do you think he's actually the main villain of this story?
[00:19:11] Oh.
[00:19:12] Oh.
[00:19:13] Because I mean like, I mean like there's obvious one of Umbridge.
[00:19:15] People say Umbridge is actually a worse villain.
[00:19:17] Hmm.
[00:19:18] Yeah.
[00:19:18] I saw something Stephen King said.
[00:19:20] Stephen King said, yeah, she was the worst.
[00:19:22] Whoa.
[00:19:22] I think, I think he said that she's like the best written villain since like Hannibal Lecter
[00:19:26] or something weird.
[00:19:27] Oh my God.
[00:19:29] Which is so funny because she just never seemed that bad to me.
[00:19:33] And I feel bad even saying that on the pod.
[00:19:35] Here we go again.
[00:19:36] He was always like anti, uh,
[00:19:38] Yeah, and I'm just like, yeah, whatever.
[00:19:40] Anti Umbridge.
[00:19:40] Anti Umbridge.
[00:19:41] What was that in again?
[00:19:42] What book was this?
[00:19:43] She was in the fifth and the seventh.
[00:19:46] Which?
[00:19:46] That's the Order of, no.
[00:19:47] Yeah, Order of the Phoenix.
[00:19:49] And.
[00:19:49] Oh, that's why I didn't like Harry or her.
[00:19:51] Mm-hmm.
[00:19:52] Yeah, and it makes it hard to read that book because you're like in pain reading her, her
[00:19:57] antics there.
[00:19:59] Um.
[00:19:59] Yeah.
[00:19:59] So yeah.
[00:20:00] That's true.
[00:20:00] I'm surprised you guys didn't talk about the wands.
[00:20:04] That you would like more info on the wand history.
[00:20:08] Oh, well, fair point.
[00:20:09] Good.
[00:20:09] Now that you mention it.
[00:20:12] I was like that.
[00:20:12] Honestly, a whole series about that would be so fascinating.
[00:20:15] I was like, that's definitely coming up as the first thing you guys said.
[00:20:18] So that to me doesn't seem like an HBO series.
[00:20:20] That seems like a, a, uh, a YouTube series where a guy makes wands and the whole, it's
[00:20:26] like a 40 minute long video and there's no, there's no music.
[00:20:30] He doesn't talk.
[00:20:31] He's sitting there just.
[00:20:32] Yes.
[00:20:33] Whittling a wand.
[00:20:33] And I'm just.
[00:20:34] Love it.
[00:20:35] I'm just, I can't look.
[00:20:36] I can't look away from.
[00:20:37] I feel like you're talking about a series you're going to do.
[00:20:40] You know that like something like that exists with violin making.
[00:20:44] Yeah.
[00:20:44] I'm sure it does.
[00:20:46] You know how many series it was like that on YouTube?
[00:20:47] Well, you enjoy that.
[00:20:49] It's like literally, it's just someone making something and they spend the whole video is
[00:20:53] like an hour and 20 minutes and it's just like them making like a pencil.
[00:20:57] And I can watch those for hours.
[00:20:58] Someone's making the wands.
[00:21:00] They're so great.
[00:21:01] Yeah.
[00:21:01] I do that for wands and I'm in.
[00:21:03] Yeah.
[00:21:03] That is a perfect YouTube series.
[00:21:05] Where does the magic come from?
[00:21:07] Exactly.
[00:21:08] I want to see how they embed the magic in there.
[00:21:09] Yep.
[00:21:10] I would love like a deep dive in all the characters, like their backgrounds.
[00:21:14] Yeah.
[00:21:14] Seriously.
[00:21:15] Yep.
[00:21:15] Like history of their childhood and how they grew up and where they went to school and
[00:21:20] all the things.
[00:21:22] I feel like it brings up a weird question of what you can do with a story and when it
[00:21:28] starts to take away from the original story.
[00:21:30] If you make more stories that either are before or after the one we already love, does it have
[00:21:36] to tie into that story or can it be separate?
[00:21:39] And if it's separate, does it take away from the story we love?
[00:21:43] I don't know.
[00:21:44] I kind of go back and forth.
[00:21:45] But I love to know why.
[00:21:46] So that's why I would enjoy the background stories of all them.
[00:21:51] I know.
[00:21:51] But isn't there a series or something that has just like a spinoffs that are just on
[00:21:56] like one character that don't necessarily tie in, but like you can kind of understand a
[00:22:02] personality that you see in the main.
[00:22:05] Yeah.
[00:22:05] That's what a lot of the fan fiction is going to, which is I mean, that leads into two other
[00:22:09] questions that I have for you guys.
[00:22:10] Which smaller character would you like a series about or like would you like another book about?
[00:22:15] And then on top of that, if the series is written from another character's perspective,
[00:22:20] which character would you want that to be?
[00:22:21] Oh, so do the first one.
[00:22:24] We'll do the first one first.
[00:22:25] Which Hermione's parents.
[00:22:29] Oh, like they're letting their daughter go to a world that they know nothing about.
[00:22:36] Yeah.
[00:22:37] I, uh, it's because I was watching Transylvania.
[00:22:42] I don't know enough about what happens in that.
[00:22:45] It's like a human marriage, uh, falling in love with a vampire.
[00:22:48] That's great.
[00:22:49] And then Transylvania 2 talks about being married and that's why I was on my mind.
[00:22:55] Like, oh my gosh, Hermione's parents have no clue about this world.
[00:22:59] And what, when they come visit, what does that feel like?
[00:23:02] And they're okay with her not knowing what she's doing.
[00:23:05] And she's wasting her smarts and talent.
[00:23:08] Yeah.
[00:23:08] Like all the things.
[00:23:09] And I feel like she doesn't talk about them much at all.
[00:23:13] So it is kind of funny.
[00:23:14] You could do anything with that.
[00:23:16] Yeah.
[00:23:16] And, uh, it wouldn't affect the story.
[00:23:18] I'd be really curious.
[00:23:19] Yeah.
[00:23:21] Hmm.
[00:23:21] That's my answer.
[00:23:22] I love it.
[00:23:23] It's a great answer.
[00:23:26] It's an unexpected answer too.
[00:23:28] You know, it is so tough.
[00:23:31] I feel like, um, Xenophilius Lovegood maybe would be my side character that could do a good
[00:23:38] story.
[00:23:39] I think Luna is the main focus there, but she doesn't have to be the main character of
[00:23:43] this story.
[00:23:44] Yeah.
[00:23:44] But I would love to see him from his youth.
[00:23:48] Um, that'd make like a good musical life.
[00:23:51] Whoa, nice.
[00:23:52] That'd be great.
[00:23:53] A musical.
[00:23:53] Like a Xenophilius Lovegood would be like a good musical.
[00:23:56] Oh, that's funny.
[00:23:56] Of his like life and upbringing.
[00:23:58] And cause he's a rapper, XL.
[00:23:59] So yeah.
[00:24:01] He'd be a rap.
[00:24:02] Hamilton vibes.
[00:24:04] Yeah.
[00:24:04] So I feel like that would be a good one.
[00:24:06] Um, wait, what was the second question?
[00:24:10] If a one character could rewrite the series or for, if you could rewrite a perspective.
[00:24:14] One perspective.
[00:24:14] So it's gotta be close enough to this story.
[00:24:18] I think for, for the sake of things, it would be fun.
[00:24:22] I think for a little George RR Martin vibe of from an evil character's perspective.
[00:24:28] Ooh.
[00:24:28] I'm just trying to think of what evil character is evil, but you could relate to.
[00:24:34] So, uh, Mrs. Malfoy would be an interesting one.
[00:24:38] That would be great.
[00:24:39] She's involved in a lot of the darkness, but she's got good in her.
[00:24:43] Yeah.
[00:24:43] So as far as a real, like actual thinking of it leading up to the moment where she sees
[00:24:49] Harry, um, and doesn't know if he's dead or alive and then decides to be good, so to
[00:24:54] speak.
[00:24:55] Um, I think that would actually make for a fascinating story, but you'd still get exposure
[00:25:00] to a lot of already the story we like.
[00:25:02] Um, so that could be a good one, but I'm trying to think if there are other characters
[00:25:07] from the darker side of things.
[00:25:09] Um, but we would see the same thing.
[00:25:12] I feel like from a darker side of things like Voldemort that you don't know, what's the
[00:25:15] story from his perspective?
[00:25:16] Umbridge, same thing.
[00:25:18] Yeah.
[00:25:18] Like Bellatrix would be like, you know, erotic fiction.
[00:25:20] That'd be like weird.
[00:25:21] And then I think, I think Mrs. Malfoy would be the greatest person on the dark side to
[00:25:28] have their account of things.
[00:25:30] Yep.
[00:25:30] Like especially everything they went through as a family, like letting up her son, all
[00:25:34] that kind of stuff.
[00:25:34] I think that'd be great.
[00:25:35] Right.
[00:25:36] And the unbreakable bond and moments like that.
[00:25:38] Jen, you look like you have a great thought.
[00:25:40] Yeah.
[00:25:40] Yeah.
[00:25:40] What are you thinking?
[00:25:41] I'm not sure it's that great, but, um, the series is black brother that passed away.
[00:25:46] Oh, he was interesting.
[00:25:49] That would be a really good story.
[00:25:51] You're right.
[00:25:51] That would be so cool to see him on the dark side and then come to reality and see that
[00:25:56] it was.
[00:25:56] That would be so good.
[00:25:57] There would be so many intense moments in that.
[00:25:59] I know.
[00:25:59] That would be really cool.
[00:26:00] And then, uh, creature would be in it too.
[00:26:02] They must do that in HBO, right?
[00:26:04] Turning some of this into a whole, like a whole season.
[00:26:08] Yes.
[00:26:09] Cause I'm a TV producer.
[00:26:11] I know.
[00:26:12] It's like, they're gonna definitely go into that.
[00:26:15] Right?
[00:26:15] Maybe.
[00:26:16] Everyone wants them to.
[00:26:18] Cause you're talking about it.
[00:26:19] Yeah.
[00:26:19] That would be awesome.
[00:26:21] It's like people who are like diehard Harry Potter fans.
[00:26:24] You don't, we don't necessarily want another Harry Potter series.
[00:26:27] We want all the extra stuff.
[00:26:29] We want.
[00:26:29] Spin offs.
[00:26:31] Yep.
[00:26:31] It's all I want right now.
[00:26:33] Like I'm, I'm not complaining about having a Harry Potter series.
[00:26:35] It's kind of like scary if it's, how is it going to turn out?
[00:26:37] I know.
[00:26:37] Are we going to like it?
[00:26:39] There's a difference.
[00:26:40] Acting like going to be good enough?
[00:26:42] Yeah.
[00:26:42] I do think there's going to be a difference because for, you know, like for Star Wars,
[00:26:46] their original media was the three Star Wars movies that came out.
[00:26:49] And so like that, that's what they're like.
[00:26:51] Like their canon was built off of.
[00:26:53] For Harry Potter fans, we have the books when the movies are coming out simultaneously
[00:26:57] with it.
[00:26:57] We realize that there's a huge discrepancy.
[00:27:00] It's like the Game of Thrones series.
[00:27:01] Like people loved it.
[00:27:02] But toward the end they were like, Oh, this is nothing like, you know, the books aren't
[00:27:04] even out yet.
[00:27:05] So it's even different from that.
[00:27:07] With this one, it's like, there's such a discrepancy between the movies and the
[00:27:11] books that fans are, we're like excited to get another piece of media that's like
[00:27:16] Harry Potter related.
[00:27:17] Yeah.
[00:27:17] But we're not our, all of our like eggs aren't in this basket because the books have already
[00:27:22] come out and people who are diehard book fans are like, we already have this.
[00:27:25] This is okay.
[00:27:26] We want spinoff series and that's like the best thing that you could do.
[00:27:29] But if this series comes out at bombs, that's okay.
[00:27:31] If this series comes out, it does great.
[00:27:33] That's even better.
[00:27:33] We would be really excited if it did.
[00:27:35] I guess in a way it's like they can maybe go dive deeper into each book, which is something
[00:27:40] I always wanted after watching.
[00:27:42] Yes.
[00:27:43] Yeah.
[00:27:43] Agreed.
[00:27:44] Just hopefully they do it well.
[00:27:46] Yeah.
[00:27:47] Agreed.
[00:27:48] Agreed.
[00:27:48] I'm sure they will.
[00:27:50] We're all nervous for that.
[00:27:51] She's a part of the producing.
[00:27:52] Yeah, she is.
[00:27:54] Which makes the things canon, you know?
[00:27:58] Yeah.
[00:27:59] Yeah.
[00:28:00] Yeah.
[00:28:00] That'd be.
[00:28:00] Although her other book has a series too.
[00:28:03] Her other series.
[00:28:04] Really?
[00:28:05] Yeah.
[00:28:06] I didn't even know that.
[00:28:06] Yeah, you've been diving deep.
[00:28:07] Because I'm on the second book.
[00:28:09] What is that called again?
[00:28:10] And she has it on Amazon.
[00:28:12] It's really a TV series though?
[00:28:14] Yeah, BBC.
[00:28:15] No way.
[00:28:16] BBC too.
[00:28:17] Hmm.
[00:28:17] I gotta check that out.
[00:28:18] I've heard it's great.
[00:28:19] The Strike series or whatever.
[00:28:21] Yeah, Cormoran Strike.
[00:28:22] Hmm.
[00:28:22] It's totally different than, I like cannot get over, it's the same author.
[00:28:27] She wrote like similar, but like, it's not a kid's book.
[00:28:31] Yeah.
[00:28:31] Not a kid's book.
[00:28:32] And I felt like she was really throwing it in there like, look, I'm not a kid's book
[00:28:36] by a writer.
[00:28:39] So that was kind of funny.
[00:28:41] Yeah.
[00:28:41] But there, it is good.
[00:28:44] Um, what is your guys' favorite spell in the Wizarding World?
[00:28:51] Oh, I don't remember anymore.
[00:28:53] No.
[00:28:54] Well, if you do remember, it must be your favorite.
[00:28:56] Lumos.
[00:28:58] Nice.
[00:28:58] No, Expecto Patronum.
[00:29:00] It's the most practical.
[00:29:00] It's the most practical.
[00:29:01] You could do, you could do Lumos with your phone.
[00:29:03] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:29:04] Oh yeah.
[00:29:05] Siri.
[00:29:06] Yeah.
[00:29:07] Okay, Google.
[00:29:10] Lumos.
[00:29:16] Google.
[00:29:18] Ay, ay, ay.
[00:29:19] There you go.
[00:29:20] So lame.
[00:29:21] Oh, it worked.
[00:29:22] I couldn't even see it.
[00:29:22] All right, nice.
[00:29:23] I'm glad.
[00:29:24] Um.
[00:29:25] You're so magical.
[00:29:26] So magical.
[00:29:27] I feel like, um, the first that comes to mind is Expelliarmus because Harry says it so
[00:29:33] many times.
[00:29:34] And I do kind of like it.
[00:29:36] It is a very hairy spell.
[00:29:38] It is enough to win a battle, but you're not killing anybody.
[00:29:43] Um, there's not a lot of creativity to it though.
[00:29:46] Yeah.
[00:29:46] So, I don't know.
[00:29:47] I, I feel like I wish we knew more of the spells that, uh, wordless magic Dumbledore
[00:29:54] is doing.
[00:29:54] What's about the Boggart one?
[00:29:56] What was that one?
[00:29:57] You got this.
[00:29:58] Yeah.
[00:29:58] You can get this.
[00:29:59] I know you can.
[00:29:59] Oh gosh.
[00:30:00] It was like.
[00:30:01] It's crazy.
[00:30:02] I say it sometimes when I accidentally say the word.
[00:30:04] Yeah, cause it's like a word.
[00:30:04] And then I say it.
[00:30:06] Um.
[00:30:07] It's crazy.
[00:30:07] It's like absurd.
[00:30:08] It's an absurd little word.
[00:30:10] It's.
[00:30:11] It's like excited.
[00:30:13] No, it's like.
[00:30:14] Hmm.
[00:30:17] You guys are quick.
[00:30:18] Come on, you got it.
[00:30:19] I know.
[00:30:19] Just come back to me.
[00:30:20] I'll cut out all the blank space so it looks like you get it right away.
[00:30:24] Hmm.
[00:30:26] Pfft.
[00:30:27] No, no, no.
[00:30:28] No laughing at this.
[00:30:29] Everyone has a favorite spell.
[00:30:32] Uh.
[00:30:33] Ridiculousness.
[00:30:34] Yeah.
[00:30:35] Yay.
[00:30:35] Ridiculousness.
[00:30:36] I love that.
[00:30:36] Ridiculousness.
[00:30:37] What did I add to it?
[00:30:39] Uh, the ness part.
[00:30:40] Oh yeah, because I, I liked that one.
[00:30:42] We were doing it and stuck that way.
[00:30:44] Yep.
[00:30:45] Uh.
[00:30:46] I was trying to figure that one out for this.
[00:30:49] Yeah.
[00:30:49] Silent time.
[00:30:51] They were quizzing me.
[00:30:56] I don't even know if I had a, I don't know.
[00:31:03] No spells stuck out to me.
[00:31:04] I was like, I love that spell.
[00:31:07] Well, I mean, honestly, that's fair.
[00:31:08] Yeah.
[00:31:09] It's a great, it's a great point.
[00:31:10] Sorry guys.
[00:31:11] Cause what, how about, how about just like a random bit of magic?
[00:31:14] Not even in just a spell.
[00:31:15] Like, is there, is there a bit of magic in the series that you guys thought was the
[00:31:18] coolest bit?
[00:31:19] I think, I mean like the Patronus to me is one of the obvious ones where I think that
[00:31:23] is one of the coolest bits of magic that exists in Harry Potter.
[00:31:25] That's really neat.
[00:31:27] That one really sticks with me because not only was it cool in its own way and influential
[00:31:33] to the story.
[00:31:34] Um, but I just love that there's such an emotional element to it.
[00:31:38] I feel like it lets us know how some spells are done.
[00:31:43] Um, because otherwise you're just kind of like, well, why do they have to learn?
[00:31:48] What are they doing?
[00:31:49] They're just flicking wands around.
[00:31:50] Is it how you move the wand?
[00:31:51] Is it whatever?
[00:31:52] And I feel like that spell took it to a new level of the emotion behind the spell.
[00:31:58] Um, it made it feel more complex and it was so fun seeing Harry be so good at something
[00:32:07] where you can really get psyched about him being the chosen one.
[00:32:10] Um, so I, I, yeah, obviously it has a lot of heft to it.
[00:32:16] I'm trying to think through other, other parts of the magic world.
[00:32:20] I forgot what the question was cause you talked a lot.
[00:32:23] Well, what, what's your favorite spell?
[00:32:24] That was where it started.
[00:32:25] It's over here.
[00:32:27] Um, and then like what other like, I got a lot of magic in the world.
[00:32:30] You're just so like, I get like stuck loss in your world.
[00:32:33] You're trying to make it a positive now.
[00:32:34] Okay.
[00:32:34] It was a positive.
[00:32:36] I just don't remember the question.
[00:32:38] Yeah.
[00:32:41] What, so what was the question?
[00:32:42] Um, what bits of magic do you love in the world?
[00:32:44] Oh yeah.
[00:32:45] I know.
[00:32:46] It's so cute.
[00:32:46] You just go on and on about one little thing.
[00:32:49] Oh yeah.
[00:32:49] It's adorable.
[00:32:49] Well, it's cause I hold back cause I don't want to bore you with it all day.
[00:32:51] No, you're not boring me.
[00:32:53] Now I'm just like letting it out.
[00:32:54] Everyone loves your stuff.
[00:32:56] And they want to hear all the ins and outs.
[00:32:59] Bit of magic.
[00:33:01] The, what are those dead horse things were interesting.
[00:33:04] You got this.
[00:33:05] Oh gosh.
[00:33:06] Another quiz.
[00:33:07] They're Thestrals.
[00:33:08] We're not trying to quiz you.
[00:33:09] Um, those are some of my favorite parts still.
[00:33:11] But the dead horse things are pretty cool.
[00:33:14] Oh, and I love the creatures.
[00:33:15] Like Buckbeak and stuff.
[00:33:17] Hmm.
[00:33:18] I find that like so fast.
[00:33:20] Well, that's a good way to say it.
[00:33:21] You're right.
[00:33:21] The creatures do have quite a new.
[00:33:23] Unicorns.
[00:33:23] Hmm.
[00:33:25] Like the care of magical creatures class would be so fun.
[00:33:27] So fun.
[00:33:29] I just, yeah.
[00:33:31] See, I'm learning the powers behind them.
[00:33:34] Cause some of them have like special gifts.
[00:33:36] And if you could tap into them.
[00:33:39] Yeah.
[00:33:40] Hmm.
[00:33:41] Why?
[00:33:41] What?
[00:33:41] Sorry.
[00:33:42] I'm more.
[00:33:42] No.
[00:33:45] What got you?
[00:33:47] I'm just more character driven.
[00:33:49] Yeah.
[00:33:49] Yeah.
[00:33:49] Yeah.
[00:33:50] Cause I'm like, I'm, I know it's like about magic and I'm like, I couldn't give, I don't
[00:33:56] care.
[00:33:58] Yeah.
[00:33:58] You just want another character.
[00:34:00] About the stories of the characters.
[00:34:01] About that.
[00:34:01] Yeah.
[00:34:02] Just like their journey.
[00:34:06] Yeah, sure.
[00:34:07] Yep.
[00:34:08] Okay.
[00:34:09] Um, yeah, I just, I love, well, I love like psychology.
[00:34:14] So I love the wise of like why they're doing things that they're doing.
[00:34:20] Yeah.
[00:34:21] And you got a lot of that with these characters.
[00:34:23] Yeah.
[00:34:24] Great segue question.
[00:34:25] Who is your guys favorite character?
[00:34:28] Hmm.
[00:34:29] You can do a top three or it doesn't have to be like one, two, three.
[00:34:32] It could just be three of your favorites.
[00:34:34] Have to have to keep it a three.
[00:34:35] Jen.
[00:34:36] I'm looking at you specifically.
[00:34:38] Jen is going to go.
[00:34:39] Jen is going to go.
[00:34:39] Jen, Hermione, Ron, Harry, Lupin, Tom.
[00:34:43] Yeah.
[00:34:43] I'm not going to pick.
[00:34:44] I'm indecisive.
[00:34:49] I just love Luna.
[00:34:52] Yeah.
[00:34:52] Yeah.
[00:34:53] She's a good one.
[00:34:54] She's just, um, I don't know.
[00:34:58] A hot tamale.
[00:34:59] She is very much a hot tamale.
[00:35:01] Yeah.
[00:35:02] She's just unique.
[00:35:03] She's just Luna.
[00:35:04] She's her, you know?
[00:35:05] Yeah.
[00:35:06] So she's definitely one of my top favorites.
[00:35:10] Yeah, she is great.
[00:35:11] Everything that came out of her mouth was just like a soothing, perfectly timed.
[00:35:15] Yeah.
[00:35:15] Just a sweet friend.
[00:35:17] Conversation.
[00:35:17] Yeah.
[00:35:17] Like really caring.
[00:35:19] Yep.
[00:35:21] Yeah, she is so sweet.
[00:35:22] Yeah.
[00:35:25] It's tough.
[00:35:26] I'm breaking it down book by book almost.
[00:35:28] I know.
[00:35:28] No.
[00:35:29] Because it changed a lot and then by the end it was different than how it started.
[00:35:32] But when you ask the question, I'm trying to go based on instincts.
[00:35:36] And one of the first people that come to mind was Lupin.
[00:35:39] I was just going to say that.
[00:35:40] Hmm.
[00:35:40] Oh, sorry.
[00:35:41] I didn't mean to steal it.
[00:35:42] Yeah.
[00:35:42] What's your number two?
[00:35:44] Oh, it doesn't have to be in order, but you know.
[00:35:46] I just thought Ginny was like a funny character.
[00:35:49] Oh yeah.
[00:35:50] Yeah.
[00:35:51] She's so great.
[00:35:51] And then I went to, well only in the books.
[00:35:54] Yeah.
[00:35:55] He's in that movie.
[00:35:56] He's not existing.
[00:35:59] And then Lupin because he's the most memorable like professor for me.
[00:36:04] Yep.
[00:36:04] Cause he like kind of took Harry and like taught him so much and then continues like protecting
[00:36:09] him as the books go on.
[00:36:12] Hmm.
[00:36:12] Mm hmm.
[00:36:15] There was another one that I can't think of.
[00:36:17] Hmm.
[00:36:19] It's funny that to me, the Weasley family almost feels like its own character.
[00:36:25] Hmm.
[00:36:25] Like them collectively.
[00:36:27] Yeah, seriously they do.
[00:36:27] Um, because there is a lot of similar energy.
[00:36:30] They are a family and it feels unfair to call it out as any one of them because it's
[00:36:37] just that feeling of being in the borough that I'm trying to give credit to that home, that
[00:36:41] family that Harry never had.
[00:36:43] Um, so Lupin comes to mind and then the Weasleys.
[00:36:49] Mm hmm.
[00:36:50] I don't know what a third person here.
[00:36:52] Everyone I think of then I come up with the reasons why they are.
[00:36:56] I know.
[00:36:56] I don't know.
[00:36:56] I don't know.
[00:36:57] I don't know.
[00:36:58] And then Dobby, he's like, he's just like a sweet, innocent character.
[00:37:04] Yeah.
[00:37:04] Hmm.
[00:37:05] And I feel like everything he does was like for good.
[00:37:08] Like he didn't really have any faults and if they were, it was just like helping people.
[00:37:13] Right.
[00:37:14] Yeah.
[00:37:14] He was annoying in the second book for sure.
[00:37:16] Oh, that's right.
[00:37:17] See, I forget some of the stuff.
[00:37:18] Yeah.
[00:37:19] Yeah.
[00:37:19] He was super annoying actually.
[00:37:21] Maybe I take it.
[00:37:22] But like he is really genuinely he's trying to help though.
[00:37:26] But he just doesn't know.
[00:37:27] Yep.
[00:37:27] He's not helping at all.
[00:37:29] Yeah.
[00:37:30] He doesn't really.
[00:37:31] Right.
[00:37:33] Hagrid.
[00:37:34] Maybe I swap it out.
[00:37:35] I thought about that.
[00:37:36] He's a good one.
[00:37:36] I'm going to say McGonagall instead.
[00:37:38] Oh, she's good too.
[00:37:39] Oh, that's my fourth and fifth.
[00:37:41] Yeah.
[00:37:41] Classic.
[00:37:45] I have like Luna though a lot.
[00:37:47] I like that.
[00:37:47] Yeah.
[00:37:48] Yeah.
[00:37:50] Um.
[00:37:52] This looks weird.
[00:37:54] Sorry.
[00:37:55] I'm like trying to figure out this crochet thing.
[00:37:57] It's driving me nuts.
[00:37:57] But I, I also love Mrs. Weasley.
[00:38:00] Yeah.
[00:38:00] When you were talking about the family.
[00:38:02] Yeah.
[00:38:02] I'm like she, I always commented on her.
[00:38:05] I loved her.
[00:38:07] I think cause it's like you got the motherly vibe from her.
[00:38:09] So true.
[00:38:10] You know?
[00:38:11] There was no one else, right?
[00:38:13] Besides her.
[00:38:14] Yeah.
[00:38:15] I was trying to think.
[00:38:15] McGonagall, but she's more to her.
[00:38:18] Yeah.
[00:38:18] Yeah.
[00:38:19] No one compared to her.
[00:38:20] And then at the end when she cursed at Bellatrix.
[00:38:24] Not my daughter.
[00:38:25] Yeah.
[00:38:26] It was a great line.
[00:38:27] That actually, yeah.
[00:38:30] Ditto too.
[00:38:31] Or even I'm thinking of the moment.
[00:38:33] All yours ditto.
[00:38:34] And all yours ditto.
[00:38:34] Isn't she the one who stood up first and got mad at Sirius to say, don't you dare think
[00:38:40] you're the only person who cares about her?
[00:38:42] Yeah.
[00:38:42] So good.
[00:38:43] And that moment of just like, it's not only warm mom, but like mama bear.
[00:38:48] Yeah.
[00:38:48] Like I will fight for this boy.
[00:38:50] Right.
[00:38:51] Um, yeah.
[00:38:52] She is such a, you know, she's like very, like a little too mom-ish cause she worries
[00:38:56] about character so much, but she really is such like a reasonable person in the series.
[00:39:01] I know.
[00:39:01] But that's what I'm saying.
[00:39:02] I love that so much.
[00:39:04] Like everyone's mom here.
[00:39:07] I think it's just so great that she does that because everyone else is coming up with
[00:39:13] plots and plans and she is literally just trying to keep everyone safe.
[00:39:16] She's like the only person in the series really trying to do that.
[00:39:18] Yeah.
[00:39:19] Yeah.
[00:39:20] Such a mom thing.
[00:39:21] I love it.
[00:39:21] How much danger they're in.
[00:39:25] Oh, it's so good.
[00:39:26] There's always, there's gotta be a spell.
[00:39:28] Like just put a bubble on them while they're like toddlers.
[00:39:32] Wouldn't be a podcast without a Christian verb.
[00:39:34] Yeah.
[00:39:34] That's necessary.
[00:39:39] Yeah.
[00:39:40] There's so many good characters in the book too.
[00:39:42] Um, I mean, level is definitely one of mine.
[00:39:44] Lupin's probably mine.
[00:39:45] Oh my gosh.
[00:39:46] I totally forgot about Neville.
[00:39:48] I know.
[00:39:48] Wow.
[00:39:49] I'm excited if you guys do this for a second time.
[00:39:51] No, like not in a.
[00:39:52] Yeah.
[00:39:53] Me too.
[00:39:53] I'm excited.
[00:39:54] Did you not say Tonks?
[00:39:56] And Tonks is my third.
[00:39:58] Oh.
[00:39:58] Yeah.
[00:39:59] Those are probably my top three.
[00:40:00] Oh, it hurts.
[00:40:01] Even when I say Lupin.
[00:40:02] It would be cool to say Lupin.
[00:40:03] I had to say Lupin because it had an impact.
[00:40:06] Yeah.
[00:40:06] But by the end, my opinion of him has shifted a little.
[00:40:09] Yeah, absolutely.
[00:40:10] Oh, because the dad thing.
[00:40:11] Yeah.
[00:40:12] Like just some of the stuff in the end, it just kind of changed, but I'm still sticking
[00:40:16] to it the early days of Lupin and he was still good in the end, but not, not as.
[00:40:23] And I do really think that's why this is a really good series too, is because the characters
[00:40:27] do have a lot of change.
[00:40:28] Yeah.
[00:40:28] Other arcs like Lupin is different from book three than he is book, you know, seven or six.
[00:40:33] Same thing as Ollie there.
[00:40:34] It really did.
[00:40:35] Yeah.
[00:40:35] I like it.
[00:40:36] Harry has huge character arcs.
[00:40:37] It would be cool to reread it and see, like knowing the end, you could focus on like other
[00:40:41] parts of it.
[00:40:42] Yeah, seriously.
[00:40:42] Which is, I mean, that's another interesting question.
[00:40:45] If you guys reread this, what do you, what would you think your main like focus would
[00:40:51] be?
[00:40:52] Would you focus on like one or two characters?
[00:40:53] Would you just do it out of pure enjoyment again?
[00:40:57] I would look for hints about what's his name.
[00:41:00] Definitely.
[00:41:01] Yeah.
[00:41:01] That fits you.
[00:41:02] Yeah.
[00:41:02] Dumbledore and Snape would be my character focuses.
[00:41:05] Yeah.
[00:41:06] Um, but I would just, I think I would focus on the warmth of being back in the world.
[00:41:10] Yeah.
[00:41:11] Um, it's funny though.
[00:41:14] Dumbledore, I viewed him as being, it feels like throughout the series he was saying, Oh
[00:41:20] no, I'm not that good.
[00:41:22] Um, no, no, no, no.
[00:41:24] You know, like he would say random things and I would take it as being humble.
[00:41:28] Mm hmm.
[00:41:28] But by the end of the series, I was like, Oh no, he was kind of telling us all along,
[00:41:32] like he's not that good or he's acted selfishly or I should have told you all along,
[00:41:37] Harry, I kept this from you and I was wrong.
[00:41:39] And, Oh my gosh.
[00:41:40] And so I think in the end I did find myself still a little bitter towards him.
[00:41:45] And I want to read that in light of everything we know and see how it affects the way I view
[00:41:50] him as a character.
[00:41:51] Um, I think it'll be good because he's so warm at the beginning that it would help remind
[00:42:00] me of the things I love about Dumbledore.
[00:42:02] But then I also might read it with too much skepticism and then say, Oh wow, I really do
[00:42:08] think he's a little bit too selfish.
[00:42:11] So I'm curious.
[00:42:12] I actually don't know how I'm going to view him coming from the man who liked Umbridge
[00:42:19] or didn't mind her.
[00:42:20] I should say I'll be corrected.
[00:42:23] Yeah, so true.
[00:42:27] Danny's gonna read it.
[00:42:28] He's like gonna be like, I really love Umbridge.
[00:42:31] She's just such a good character.
[00:42:36] Which is okay.
[00:42:37] So that you guys are actually like another good point.
[00:42:40] What is, what is your guys favorite?
[00:42:42] Like, I guess, location in the books.
[00:42:44] Or like series of chapters or like what's, what's like your favorite spot in the books
[00:42:50] that you just are like looking forward to returning to?
[00:42:56] My snowy scenes at Hogwarts.
[00:42:58] Yeah, they're so cozy.
[00:43:00] I like my cozy scenes.
[00:43:01] I like Christmas time.
[00:43:03] Mm-hmm.
[00:43:04] Yeah, that's always your favorite moment was like, I like when they're just sitting
[00:43:07] together in a cozy wintery scene.
[00:43:09] Yep.
[00:43:11] Forget everything else.
[00:43:14] Significant plot developments.
[00:43:15] Yeah.
[00:43:16] Yeah, whatever.
[00:43:17] They're hanging out doing homework in the common room.
[00:43:19] Yeah.
[00:43:20] There are so many places that are warm and cozy to me now.
[00:43:23] Mm-hmm.
[00:43:23] But, the first, Diagon Alley.
[00:43:27] Yeah.
[00:43:28] Second, The Burrow.
[00:43:29] Third, Hogsmeade.
[00:43:31] Oh, yeah.
[00:43:31] And I feel like in general, Hogwarts is true.
[00:43:34] But, there are moments in the common room that feel warm.
[00:43:40] But, because Hogwarts still feels so big.
[00:43:43] When I'm picturing the warmth of Hogwarts, a testament to the video game.
[00:43:47] Mm-hmm.
[00:43:47] I'm picturing the video game.
[00:43:48] Yeah, same.
[00:43:49] The video game makes it-
[00:43:50] So good.
[00:43:51] So good.
[00:43:52] Like, it is so magical.
[00:43:53] You feel like you're there.
[00:43:55] It is like, I'm down with this.
[00:43:57] But, when reading the books, I didn't necessarily pick up on all of that.
[00:44:00] There were moments of it, but not compared to the coolness and intrigue of Diagon Alley.
[00:44:06] Yeah.
[00:44:07] The warmth of the burrow.
[00:44:08] Um, the field trip vibes of Hogsmeade.
[00:44:12] Um, so those are the ones that stand out to me.
[00:44:15] What were your highlight spots?
[00:44:18] Well, you don't even know if you're gonna read it a second time.
[00:44:20] But, if, what would be the thing that pulls you into reading it a second time the most?
[00:44:25] Like, if you had to pick out a series of chapters.
[00:44:29] That's like, so hard.
[00:44:31] I know.
[00:44:31] I don't think of them, because remember how I like to skip scenes?
[00:44:35] Right, so-
[00:44:35] And I just wanted to know about what happened next.
[00:44:38] You're such a plot-driven reader.
[00:44:40] I would like, stop describing the details.
[00:44:44] Even though it's funny because I'm very detail-oriented.
[00:44:48] So, it's weird that I don't like reading a page.
[00:44:51] That is so funny.
[00:44:51] The mystery gotcha.
[00:44:52] She does that in her second series, too.
[00:44:54] Yeah?
[00:44:55] You're just like, get to the plot.
[00:44:57] Yeah.
[00:45:02] Um, I like the ones you said.
[00:45:04] Like, Hogsmeade would be an interesting one.
[00:45:07] Um, Taigano.
[00:45:09] I don't know.
[00:45:10] I mean...
[00:45:12] All I'm picturing is like, Warner Bros.
[00:45:13] The Universal Studios.
[00:45:15] Yeah, the lot.
[00:45:15] Seriously, yeah.
[00:45:16] Mm.
[00:45:17] Which was really neat.
[00:45:19] Um, yeah.
[00:45:22] And then some of those rooms I feel like would just be interesting, too.
[00:45:26] Like, um...
[00:45:29] What's the...
[00:45:29] The...
[00:45:29] Not the Vanishing Room.
[00:45:31] Yeah, the Vanishing Room.
[00:45:32] No.
[00:45:32] Yeah, Room of Requirement.
[00:45:33] Yeah, that.
[00:45:34] Ooh, yeah.
[00:45:35] That's a great spot.
[00:45:36] That is.
[00:45:36] I'm like, oh, that's like so cool.
[00:45:37] You could just picture like however you want it to be and it just appears.
[00:45:41] Mm-hmm.
[00:45:41] Just roam around all day there.
[00:45:43] Yep.
[00:45:44] Is that in the video game?
[00:45:47] Yes.
[00:45:48] Yeah.
[00:45:48] Very much so, in fact.
[00:45:49] Oh, I forgot.
[00:45:50] I could be playing that.
[00:45:51] I know.
[00:45:52] Seriously, you could be roaming around the castle.
[00:45:53] You already made your character and everything.
[00:45:55] That's a perfect hobby for surgery recovery.
[00:45:58] Yes.
[00:45:59] There you go.
[00:46:00] Perfect.
[00:46:00] And you don't have to spend any money while you do that.
[00:46:03] Her other hobby is shopping, so...
[00:46:06] I'm like, oh, no, no.
[00:46:07] I'm not even kidding.
[00:46:08] If you live stream your playthrough of the video game, you get thousands of people watching
[00:46:14] that.
[00:46:15] I don't even...
[00:46:16] Like, what?
[00:46:17] You put it on the video game and then I have to...
[00:46:21] Yeah.
[00:46:21] I just feel like you're heading in the little corner in the video game on the main screen.
[00:46:24] Oh.
[00:46:25] Danny knows how to do all that.
[00:46:26] You guys...
[00:46:26] It would be perfect.
[00:46:28] Yeah, you'd crush it.
[00:46:29] You would just see me getting so mad when I mess up.
[00:46:33] God.
[00:46:34] It was so good.
[00:46:35] It was great.
[00:46:36] And honestly, you just got started.
[00:46:38] So...
[00:46:39] It's true.
[00:46:39] I barely got...
[00:46:40] You still have some of the best moments of the movie.
[00:46:41] It was really fun, but I like being with someone playing it.
[00:46:45] Yeah, yeah.
[00:46:46] You can both do it.
[00:46:47] That'd be great.
[00:46:48] I wish I had a co-op mode.
[00:46:49] That'd be so fun.
[00:46:50] Oh, that would be great.
[00:46:51] Oh my gosh.
[00:46:51] That's alright.
[00:46:52] Yeah.
[00:46:52] Maybe soon.
[00:46:53] Then all of us can play together.
[00:46:55] That'd be a game too.
[00:46:56] Yeah, that's true.
[00:46:58] But yeah, that would be...
[00:47:01] Maybe I would have more opinions if I read a second time.
[00:47:06] Yeah.
[00:47:06] Of where I would like to go.
[00:47:10] That is kind of like another question too.
[00:47:13] Also, if you hear any chewing in the background, Wes has been chewing his bone for the entire
[00:47:17] podcast.
[00:47:18] Wow.
[00:47:19] Well done.
[00:47:19] Some of our listeners really love that.
[00:47:22] Yeah, I know.
[00:47:23] A lot of ASMR right there.
[00:47:24] Like extra sound.
[00:47:26] I couldn't get over it.
[00:47:27] I know.
[00:47:28] People aren't going to be able to want to...
[00:47:29] They're not going to want to listen to this episode.
[00:47:32] It's the last one.
[00:47:33] You have to.
[00:47:34] I know.
[00:47:35] You're obligated to.
[00:47:38] But yeah, we can do it.
[00:47:39] This is pivoting the whole discussion a little bit.
[00:47:41] We'll go back to Harry Potter at the end in the last few minutes.
[00:47:44] But did you guys like podcasting?
[00:47:46] Was there...
[00:47:47] Someone wants to know...
[00:47:49] Cause I...
[00:47:50] It was funny like me working this with you guys, like knowing you guys too.
[00:47:53] Were there ever points where you just wanted to like not do this anymore?
[00:47:56] Did you really enjoy it?
[00:47:57] What was like...
[00:47:58] Were there parts where you didn't like at the start and you started to really like it?
[00:48:02] And do you think you're going to do this more in the future?
[00:48:05] it
[00:48:06] depends
[00:48:11] Kristen's like I am out
[00:48:12] I'm retiring
[00:48:13] it was fun while it lasted
[00:48:17] in case I didn't see her
[00:48:19] good afternoon good evening
[00:48:22] no that wasn't
[00:48:24] you guys go first
[00:48:25] I think you enjoyed it for a while
[00:48:27] no I loved it
[00:48:28] you go first
[00:48:30] I think well like I said
[00:48:33] previously on these things
[00:48:34] that I just started getting into reading
[00:48:37] I never finished that many books
[00:48:38] because I would start and just stop
[00:48:41] but I find it so fun
[00:48:43] to discuss chapters
[00:48:45] and things that happen
[00:48:46] I'm like oh this is what book club's all about
[00:48:49] what was I missing this whole time
[00:48:50] because it's fun to dissect that part
[00:48:54] I guess it just
[00:48:55] depended on what was going on in life
[00:48:57] where I was like if I was busy
[00:48:59] I'm like oh now I gotta go
[00:49:00] record it
[00:49:02] and like it was
[00:49:03] I enjoyed it when I was here
[00:49:05] but I might have
[00:49:06] dreaded coming
[00:49:07] and I'm like
[00:49:08] you did always say that
[00:49:09] I'm like it's kind of like
[00:49:10] going to the gym
[00:49:11] or something
[00:49:12] where I'm like dreading going
[00:49:13] but then I feel good after
[00:49:14] I was like yeah
[00:49:17] so there's
[00:49:18] there were moments of those
[00:49:19] and your work schedule was tough too
[00:49:21] like if you knew you had to get up early
[00:49:23] you're like oh man
[00:49:24] especially because you were in between jobs
[00:49:25] sometimes too
[00:49:26] yeah
[00:49:26] my shifts were so crazy
[00:49:29] so that was hard
[00:49:33] and then it was funny
[00:49:34] in the beginning
[00:49:35] was funny to see how censored
[00:49:37] and like weird it felt
[00:49:39] and then how now at the end
[00:49:41] I'm like I don't care
[00:49:42] if there's cameras here
[00:49:43] right I was thinking that too
[00:49:45] we were so self conscious
[00:49:46] wait can I say
[00:49:47] what
[00:49:48] I don't know
[00:49:49] re-listen
[00:49:50] can you delete stuff
[00:49:51] like
[00:49:52] crop it
[00:49:52] yeah crop it was always a thing
[00:49:54] oh yeah
[00:49:54] no we don't care
[00:49:56] just say whatever
[00:49:58] but I think it's fun
[00:50:00] I feel like if people are curious about it
[00:50:01] they should just try it
[00:50:02] yeah
[00:50:03] because I think
[00:50:04] you know
[00:50:05] it's fun getting people together
[00:50:07] and talking about
[00:50:07] a common interest
[00:50:09] yep
[00:50:09] well that's one of the things
[00:50:11] I mean obviously to answer the question
[00:50:13] I loved it
[00:50:14] through and through
[00:50:15] I would look through
[00:50:15] no
[00:50:16] but when people would ask about it
[00:50:20] I would always say
[00:50:21] just do it
[00:50:23] because it's kind of like
[00:50:24] there's something great about it
[00:50:26] that it's time with friends
[00:50:28] time with people you care about
[00:50:29] with a very
[00:50:33] intentional goal
[00:50:34] so it ends up being the perfect balance of things
[00:50:37] where you have scheduled time
[00:50:39] it's therapeutic
[00:50:40] it's fun
[00:50:42] and you're on like
[00:50:44] a bit of a mission together
[00:50:45] you're on a journey together
[00:50:47] so it's
[00:50:48] the podcast was our mountain troll
[00:50:50] you know
[00:50:52] and so
[00:50:53] it's like then
[00:50:54] that's what
[00:50:55] it's the
[00:50:55] it's what forges our friendship
[00:50:57] you know
[00:50:58] in a lot of ways
[00:50:59] and that especially for us
[00:51:00] because it was our relationship
[00:51:02] oh yeah
[00:51:02] so then
[00:51:03] I feel like that to me
[00:51:04] was the bonus magic
[00:51:06] of all of it
[00:51:07] is that
[00:51:08] I can't isolate
[00:51:09] any of the factors here
[00:51:10] the time together
[00:51:11] the friendship
[00:51:12] the story
[00:51:13] the characters
[00:51:14] the podcasting element
[00:51:16] there were so many unique things
[00:51:18] about the experience
[00:51:19] that I just say
[00:51:21] anyone should do it
[00:51:23] but doing what we did
[00:51:25] especially we have a crush on someone
[00:51:26] well especially then
[00:51:27] there you go
[00:51:28] I have the seven books
[00:51:28] in two years
[00:51:29] Danny you should write a book
[00:51:30] honestly
[00:51:31] start a podcast
[00:51:32] if you have a crush
[00:51:34] just start a podcast
[00:51:35] lock them in
[00:51:36] it's really long
[00:51:37] I'll never
[00:51:38] dedicate two years
[00:51:40] but that's the thing
[00:51:41] that's so tough
[00:51:42] do you want to read
[00:51:42] Harry Potter together
[00:51:43] I know
[00:51:43] on a whim
[00:51:44] at whatever
[00:51:44] 2am
[00:51:46] the whole thing
[00:51:47] was so funny
[00:51:48] and then all of a sudden
[00:51:48] Jen texts me
[00:51:49] and I'm like
[00:51:50] great
[00:51:50] I know someone
[00:51:51] that would love
[00:51:52] to know
[00:51:52] that we're reading this
[00:51:53] thank you for telling me
[00:51:55] so good
[00:51:57] yeah
[00:51:58] that's so funny
[00:51:59] not that I forgot
[00:52:00] but it's like
[00:52:01] such a part of our story
[00:52:03] that that's like
[00:52:04] really cool too
[00:52:05] like the
[00:52:05] yeah
[00:52:05] oh yeah
[00:52:07] it really is fun
[00:52:08] because the whole thing
[00:52:09] is documented
[00:52:10] and it was fun
[00:52:11] like keeping that
[00:52:11] secret from everyone
[00:52:12] and all of a sudden
[00:52:13] people
[00:52:14] like people were
[00:52:15] there was hilarious
[00:52:17] comments
[00:52:17] in like our reddit
[00:52:19] there was a post
[00:52:19] before
[00:52:20] of
[00:52:21] someone was like
[00:52:22] Jen seems really annoyed
[00:52:24] with the guy
[00:52:25] sometimes during the podcast
[00:52:28] and
[00:52:28] there was like
[00:52:29] 20 comments
[00:52:30] under it
[00:52:30] everyone was like
[00:52:31] just wait
[00:52:32] dot dot dot
[00:52:35] it was so funny
[00:52:36] because I think
[00:52:37] there was like
[00:52:37] an episode
[00:52:38] where like
[00:52:38] me and Danny
[00:52:39] just kept going
[00:52:40] on and on and on
[00:52:41] I think you were
[00:52:41] just like guys
[00:52:42] let's wrap it up
[00:52:43] come on
[00:52:45] just wait
[00:52:46] oh that's so funny
[00:52:47] because they're
[00:52:47] new listeners
[00:52:48] yeah
[00:52:48] new listeners
[00:52:49] commenting on like
[00:52:50] yeah
[00:52:50] if people start
[00:52:51] from scratch
[00:52:52] it's so fun
[00:52:53] getting to the point
[00:52:54] where they're at
[00:52:55] in like the
[00:52:56] I think
[00:52:56] in a book six
[00:52:58] we start
[00:52:58] and we're like
[00:52:59] hey by the way
[00:52:59] Jen and Danny
[00:53:00] you guys are engaged
[00:53:01] you know
[00:53:01] so fun
[00:53:02] you guys are married
[00:53:03] now
[00:53:04] it's like
[00:53:04] yeah it's great
[00:53:05] the hidden
[00:53:05] like
[00:53:06] subtle
[00:53:07] people picking up
[00:53:09] on the subtext
[00:53:09] people were reading it
[00:53:10] yeah
[00:53:10] there's like a
[00:53:11] there's a story
[00:53:12] within our podcast
[00:53:13] that's so fun
[00:53:14] yep
[00:53:15] I'm not gonna have
[00:53:16] to re-listen to ours
[00:53:17] yeah
[00:53:18] right
[00:53:18] you should
[00:53:20] as you read through
[00:53:21] for the second time
[00:53:22] you can listen
[00:53:23] through for the first time
[00:53:24] I need a little break
[00:53:25] guys
[00:53:26] alright
[00:53:26] we'll start next
[00:53:27] I'm also in her other series
[00:53:29] which is also
[00:53:30] ridiculously long too
[00:53:32] really
[00:53:32] how many books are in it
[00:53:33] it is
[00:53:34] I think nine books
[00:53:35] whoa
[00:53:36] nine
[00:53:36] is she finished with it
[00:53:37] I think
[00:53:37] I don't think so
[00:53:38] but I'm not sure
[00:53:40] because I haven't
[00:53:40] we'll get into that one
[00:53:41] because she has at least
[00:53:42] seven
[00:53:42] and they're the same way
[00:53:44] where they start small
[00:53:45] and then they're massive
[00:53:46] like encyclopedias
[00:53:49] I'm like
[00:53:49] what the heck
[00:53:50] but you love it
[00:53:51] I've got lots to say
[00:53:52] you are such a reader now
[00:53:54] yes
[00:53:54] seriously
[00:53:55] I'm only listening
[00:53:56] to audiobooks
[00:53:57] but that's reading
[00:53:58] yeah it's reading
[00:53:59] yeah maybe
[00:54:00] wow
[00:54:00] and I will say
[00:54:01] maybe if they're a good reader
[00:54:02] on audiobooks
[00:54:03] because both of us agreed
[00:54:04] because we're doing
[00:54:05] reading the goldfinch now
[00:54:06] and that reader is terrible
[00:54:07] but
[00:54:08] Andy Serkis
[00:54:09] on Lord of the Rings
[00:54:10] I literally listened
[00:54:11] to the first
[00:54:12] 20 seconds of it
[00:54:13] and I am so hooked
[00:54:15] he is
[00:54:17] such a good
[00:54:17] people
[00:54:18] the only
[00:54:19] the only complaint
[00:54:20] that people have of him
[00:54:20] is that he makes
[00:54:21] everything too dramatic
[00:54:23] like
[00:54:23] he's like
[00:54:24] when you're reading
[00:54:25] through like a boring line
[00:54:26] he's trying to make it dramatic
[00:54:27] and people are like
[00:54:28] it just gets a little
[00:54:29] annoying after a while
[00:54:30] that makes sense
[00:54:30] but the first 20 seconds
[00:54:32] the line where he's reading
[00:54:33] yeah me too
[00:54:34] I love it
[00:54:35] the first 20 seconds
[00:54:36] he's reading
[00:54:37] yeah
[00:54:37] because he reads
[00:54:39] the inscription
[00:54:39] on one ring
[00:54:40] to rule them all
[00:54:40] and I'm sitting there
[00:54:41] listening
[00:54:41] and I was like
[00:54:42] sweating
[00:54:43] when he was reading that
[00:54:44] which is a whole
[00:54:45] different thing
[00:54:46] for everyone
[00:54:46] everyone wondering
[00:54:47] we are starting
[00:54:48] a Lord of the Rings
[00:54:51] fellowship of the first time readers
[00:54:53] we're getting into that
[00:54:54] so we're doing more podcasting
[00:54:56] don't worry
[00:54:57] getting into that
[00:54:59] Kristen is
[00:55:00] yeah
[00:55:00] she's retiring
[00:55:00] and Kristen loves podcasting
[00:55:01] so
[00:55:02] Kristen is welcome back
[00:55:03] anytime
[00:55:09] see I'm not
[00:55:10] the biggest talker
[00:55:13] if you ask me
[00:55:14] pointed questions
[00:55:15] I can answer them
[00:55:16] but
[00:55:16] I don't
[00:55:17] expound on
[00:55:18] I'm not you
[00:55:19] Danny
[00:55:21] but
[00:55:21] no
[00:55:22] this was like
[00:55:22] a really
[00:55:23] really fun experience
[00:55:24] it was something
[00:55:24] different
[00:55:25] it pulled me
[00:55:26] out of my comfort zone
[00:55:30] because if you
[00:55:31] asked me
[00:55:31] like a couple years ago
[00:55:32] if I was gonna do this
[00:55:34] I'd be like
[00:55:34] no
[00:55:34] I don't wanna talk
[00:55:36] in front of people
[00:55:37] no thanks
[00:55:39] but no
[00:55:40] if you wanna do it
[00:55:41] I definitely
[00:55:42] say
[00:55:43] go for it
[00:55:44] just try it out
[00:55:44] it doesn't hurt to try
[00:55:45] and like
[00:55:47] it was so cool
[00:55:47] getting to know you guys better
[00:55:49] you know
[00:55:49] it's like
[00:55:50] we all met
[00:55:50] the book club
[00:55:51] and
[00:55:51] and then it was just like
[00:55:53] a closer
[00:55:54] friendship building
[00:55:55] so
[00:55:56] it was
[00:55:56] in that aspect
[00:55:57] it was really special
[00:55:59] you destroying
[00:56:00] my reading plan
[00:56:02] just
[00:56:03] just slightly
[00:56:04] it was such a
[00:56:05] just by like
[00:56:05] a year and a half
[00:56:06] I was just
[00:56:06] I was like
[00:56:07] telling the people
[00:56:08] that I work with
[00:56:08] I was
[00:56:10] oh cause
[00:56:10] Halloween
[00:56:11] I was a Ravenclaw student
[00:56:12] oh that's awesome
[00:56:13] and so I came up
[00:56:14] and I was like
[00:56:14] yeah
[00:56:15] ended up doing a podcast
[00:56:16] I was like
[00:56:17] you know
[00:56:17] it was a whole thing
[00:56:18] I made a reading schedule
[00:56:19] that got destroyed
[00:56:21] reading schedule
[00:56:22] was what
[00:56:23] seven months
[00:56:23] was that what it was
[00:56:24] a book a month
[00:56:25] yeah
[00:56:25] it was
[00:56:26] I think it was
[00:56:27] June
[00:56:27] and it probably
[00:56:28] would have worked
[00:56:29] yeah
[00:56:29] it would have worked
[00:56:30] great
[00:56:31] and then we would have
[00:56:32] been at Disney already
[00:56:33] I know
[00:56:34] my bad
[00:56:35] my bad guys
[00:56:36] I always say that
[00:56:37] cause I went to both
[00:56:38] the same time
[00:56:39] yeah
[00:56:40] we'll go
[00:56:41] Universal
[00:56:42] whatever
[00:56:43] we got to go to Scotland
[00:56:44] so that was cool
[00:56:45] yeah exactly
[00:56:45] exactly
[00:56:46] positive
[00:56:46] silver linings
[00:56:47] so true
[00:56:48] and after we do a second time read
[00:56:50] and we get Lauren and Brandon
[00:56:51] or someone else
[00:56:52] then we'll go
[00:56:52] oh that'd be fun
[00:56:53] well
[00:56:53] I still think Lauren and Brandon
[00:56:56] we gotta get them roped in
[00:56:57] and then I was thinking
[00:56:59] your sister's new
[00:57:01] friend
[00:57:02] has he read
[00:57:04] Harry Potter
[00:57:05] oh that's a fascinating idea
[00:57:07] I'm gonna ask him
[00:57:08] I should text him
[00:57:10] oh actually
[00:57:10] they would be really fun
[00:57:12] cause I still think
[00:57:13] for your relationship
[00:57:15] Harry Potter and the podcast
[00:57:17] cause I think
[00:57:19] she would be so
[00:57:20] good
[00:57:21] on this podcast
[00:57:22] so like
[00:57:24] energetic
[00:57:24] and articulate
[00:57:25] they would crush
[00:57:27] very much so
[00:57:29] on the second half
[00:57:32] what's that word again
[00:57:35] I'm gonna text him right now
[00:57:37] it works for relationships
[00:57:38] I guess
[00:57:38] so
[00:57:41] yeah
[00:57:41] so yeah
[00:57:42] I mean everyone is asking
[00:57:44] that's like the biggest question
[00:57:45] that we get
[00:57:45] cause people
[00:57:45] people want us to do other stuff
[00:57:47] and series
[00:57:47] and stuff like that
[00:57:48] yeah they want us to
[00:57:49] relationships
[00:57:51] but we are
[00:57:52] we are planning other stuff
[00:57:53] so don't worry
[00:57:53] there will be
[00:57:54] more series in the future
[00:57:55] there's more first time reader
[00:57:57] series in the future
[00:57:58] did you
[00:57:59] are you still doing
[00:58:00] I told Danny
[00:58:00] but I haven't told you guys
[00:58:02] I just started with my niece
[00:58:03] cause she just turned 11
[00:58:04] or she's turning 11
[00:58:05] this week
[00:58:06] so
[00:58:07] last Friday
[00:58:08] she came over
[00:58:09] and we recorded
[00:58:09] a 10 minute episode
[00:58:10] about what she expects
[00:58:11] from the series
[00:58:12] like
[00:58:12] like how
[00:58:13] is she excited
[00:58:14] to read it
[00:58:15] and then we went
[00:58:15] to the Bronx Zoo
[00:58:16] and we just hung out
[00:58:17] for the day
[00:58:17] oh that's really sweet
[00:58:19] the greatest thing ever
[00:58:20] you guys got to go
[00:58:20] go to the zoo
[00:58:21] it was the coolest
[00:58:22] experience
[00:58:23] I'll sell it after
[00:58:24] but it was all fun
[00:58:25] I haven't been there
[00:58:26] since like middle school
[00:58:27] but it was unbelievable
[00:58:28] it's funny
[00:58:29] the middle school
[00:58:29] literally just went there
[00:58:30] yeah
[00:58:31] it was so good though
[00:58:32] the place where you had
[00:58:33] boots on that were
[00:58:33] hurting your feet
[00:58:34] oh nice
[00:58:35] and then we took a picture
[00:58:36] and some animals
[00:58:37] were not outside
[00:58:37] we started Harry Potter though
[00:58:38] because we took a picture
[00:58:39] of the snake
[00:58:39] and we sent it to them
[00:58:41] yeah
[00:58:41] my
[00:58:42] weirdly
[00:58:42] the only animal
[00:58:44] that my niece
[00:58:44] really gravitated toward
[00:58:45] was the
[00:58:46] bow constrictor
[00:58:48] she was like
[00:58:48] yeah
[00:58:49] she was like
[00:58:49] it was like
[00:58:50] following her finger
[00:58:51] it was crazy
[00:58:52] I was like
[00:58:55] are you speaking
[00:58:56] to the snake right now
[00:58:59] did you ever take
[00:59:00] a house test yet
[00:59:01] no not yet
[00:59:02] I'm gonna wait
[00:59:02] until she gets
[00:59:04] to that point
[00:59:04] in the books
[00:59:05] okay
[00:59:05] and this will be
[00:59:06] this will be a series
[00:59:08] that happens over
[00:59:08] seven years
[00:59:09] so she's gonna read
[00:59:10] a book a year
[00:59:10] oh wow
[00:59:11] so it's gonna be like
[00:59:12] oh that's so cute
[00:59:14] wait she doesn't know anything
[00:59:16] no nothing
[00:59:17] really
[00:59:17] so her age too
[00:59:18] the hardest part will be
[00:59:20] when she's really into it
[00:59:21] yeah
[00:59:22] or with other kids
[00:59:23] holding back
[00:59:23] and not mentioning it
[00:59:24] to anyone else
[00:59:25] who is a reader
[00:59:26] around her
[00:59:26] what I'm hoping is
[00:59:28] eventually it turns into
[00:59:29] maybe some of her friends
[00:59:31] jump in on the podcast
[00:59:32] or like jumping on
[00:59:33] at least reading it with her
[00:59:34] where they read one book
[00:59:36] together
[00:59:36] and they stop
[00:59:37] and they don't read
[00:59:38] the next one
[00:59:39] until they're a year older
[00:59:40] I don't know
[00:59:41] if that's gonna work
[00:59:42] out very well
[00:59:42] but I'm like
[00:59:43] that the hype
[00:59:44] around that
[00:59:44] where like
[00:59:45] even if I can get them
[00:59:46] what grade is this
[00:59:46] for this age
[00:59:47] so she's going
[00:59:48] into middle school
[00:59:49] she's in fifth grade
[00:59:50] right now
[00:59:50] she's going
[00:59:51] she's like going
[00:59:52] to be a sixth grader
[00:59:53] so she'll start
[00:59:54] reading them
[00:59:55] she's like a little
[00:59:56] old for her
[00:59:57] she's like one of
[00:59:58] the older kids
[00:59:58] in her grade
[00:59:59] so she's gonna
[01:00:00] read it now
[01:00:01] cool
[01:00:02] that's so fun
[01:00:03] she's gonna jump
[01:00:04] into it
[01:00:04] and even if that
[01:00:05] happened at
[01:00:06] book three or four
[01:00:08] some friend is like
[01:00:09] oh I want to
[01:00:10] this
[01:00:10] they could catch up
[01:00:11] they could catch up
[01:00:11] quick
[01:00:12] and then yeah
[01:00:12] yeah
[01:00:13] I think it'd be great
[01:00:14] that's so awesome
[01:00:15] so we got lots
[01:00:16] planned anyway
[01:00:16] for podcasting
[01:00:17] as far as that's
[01:00:19] concerned
[01:00:20] um
[01:00:23] uh
[01:00:25] what other Bernie
[01:00:26] questions
[01:00:26] I want to
[01:00:26] we'll talk about
[01:00:27] the rankings
[01:00:27] of the books
[01:00:28] in a bit
[01:00:28] and then we'll do
[01:00:29] like the final
[01:00:30] hot tamale
[01:00:30] you know
[01:00:31] hot
[01:00:31] uh
[01:00:32] final questions
[01:00:33] but
[01:00:34] that's written
[01:00:34] on our
[01:00:35] one of our
[01:00:35] wedding things
[01:00:36] by you
[01:00:37] remember
[01:00:38] I had a picture
[01:00:39] I had a frame
[01:00:40] and we asked
[01:00:40] people to like
[01:00:41] write or doodle
[01:00:42] or something
[01:00:42] and I think
[01:00:43] you wrote
[01:00:43] something awesome
[01:00:44] but I don't
[01:00:45] know
[01:00:45] I don't remember
[01:00:46] but I just
[01:00:47] saw it today
[01:00:47] it's hanging up
[01:00:48] in our bathroom
[01:00:49] and it said
[01:00:49] hot tamale
[01:00:50] I was like
[01:00:50] whoa
[01:00:51] I forgot
[01:00:52] about that
[01:00:52] phrase
[01:00:52] that's great
[01:00:53] I love that
[01:00:54] describe the
[01:00:55] couple
[01:00:56] that's what
[01:00:56] it is
[01:00:57] that's so
[01:00:57] great
[01:00:58] I wrote that
[01:00:59] yeah
[01:01:00] your name's under
[01:01:00] it
[01:01:10] in our description
[01:01:11] on the frame
[01:01:12] oh that's fun
[01:01:13] so cute
[01:01:14] that's cute
[01:01:16] um
[01:01:16] any other
[01:01:17] any other
[01:01:18] questions that
[01:01:19] you guys had
[01:01:19] or like
[01:01:20] burning things
[01:01:21] that you wanted
[01:01:21] to talk about
[01:01:22] before we do
[01:01:22] the wrap up
[01:01:24] hmm
[01:01:26] anybody else
[01:01:27] online want
[01:01:27] to ask a
[01:01:28] question
[01:01:31] I'm sure
[01:01:32] I'll think
[01:01:32] of something
[01:01:32] later
[01:01:34] I'm not
[01:01:35] ready for it
[01:01:35] to be over
[01:01:37] oh I will
[01:01:38] say the one
[01:01:39] moment
[01:01:39] because I
[01:01:40] didn't
[01:01:41] watch the
[01:01:42] movies with
[01:01:42] you guys
[01:01:42] but the
[01:01:43] last movie
[01:01:45] was it
[01:01:45] the last
[01:01:46] movie
[01:01:46] where in
[01:01:47] the book
[01:01:48] um
[01:01:49] mrs.
[01:01:50] malfoy
[01:01:50] goes to
[01:01:51] harry
[01:01:52] but in
[01:01:53] the book
[01:01:53] she like
[01:01:54] she's like
[01:01:55] draco
[01:01:56] I never
[01:01:57] knew what
[01:01:57] was going
[01:01:57] on
[01:01:58] really
[01:01:59] because you
[01:02:00] would always
[01:02:00] say like
[01:02:01] yeah
[01:02:02] you would
[01:02:02] have to
[01:02:02] know
[01:02:03] and it
[01:02:03] was so
[01:02:03] funny
[01:02:04] because that
[01:02:04] moment
[01:02:04] in the
[01:02:05] book
[01:02:05] in the
[01:02:06] movie
[01:02:06] I'm
[01:02:06] always
[01:02:06] like
[01:02:06] what
[01:02:07] is
[01:02:07] like
[01:02:07] what
[01:02:08] is
[01:02:08] happening
[01:02:09] I'm
[01:02:09] so
[01:02:09] confused
[01:02:10] if you've
[01:02:11] just seen
[01:02:11] the
[01:02:12] confusing
[01:02:12] for
[01:02:12] what
[01:02:12] actually
[01:02:13] is
[01:02:13] happening
[01:02:13] um
[01:02:14] so
[01:02:15] but
[01:02:15] I
[01:02:16] I
[01:02:16] just
[01:02:17] didn't
[01:02:17] care
[01:02:19] for
[01:02:20] Brandon
[01:02:21] and
[01:02:21] Lauren
[01:02:21] we
[01:02:21] should
[01:02:22] have
[01:02:22] them
[01:02:22] watch
[01:02:23] the
[01:02:23] movies
[01:02:23] first
[01:02:24] watch
[01:02:24] like
[01:02:25] one
[01:02:25] movie
[01:02:25] and
[01:02:25] then
[01:02:25] maybe
[01:02:26] like
[01:02:26] talk
[01:02:26] about
[01:02:26] movies
[01:02:26] some
[01:02:42] actually
[01:02:42] confused
[01:02:42] in
[01:02:42] the
[01:02:42] movies
[01:02:43] yeah
[01:02:43] that
[01:02:43] was
[01:02:44] funny
[01:02:44] because
[01:02:45] I
[01:02:45] would
[01:02:45] ask
[01:02:45] them
[01:02:46] how
[01:02:46] do
[01:02:46] you
[01:02:46] know
[01:02:47] what
[01:02:47] happens
[01:02:48] here
[01:02:48] they don't
[01:02:49] explain
[01:02:49] it
[01:02:49] yeah
[01:02:50] like
[01:02:50] what
[01:02:50] are you
[01:02:50] talking
[01:02:51] about
[01:02:51] and
[01:02:52] Jen
[01:02:52] could
[01:02:52] be
[01:02:52] like
[01:02:52] well
[01:02:53] in
[01:02:53] the
[01:02:53] book
[01:02:53] I
[01:02:54] schooled
[01:02:54] them
[01:02:54] on
[01:02:55] like
[01:02:55] the
[01:02:56] marauders
[01:02:56] that makes
[01:02:57] me so
[01:02:57] happy
[01:02:58] that was
[01:02:58] so funny
[01:03:02] it's
[01:03:03] great
[01:03:03] it's
[01:03:04] awesome
[01:03:14] someone
[01:03:14] asks
[01:03:14] if a
[01:03:15] sequel
[01:03:15] is
[01:03:15] made
[01:03:16] what
[01:03:16] would
[01:03:16] you
[01:03:16] want
[01:03:16] it
[01:03:17] what
[01:03:17] direction
[01:03:17] would
[01:03:18] you
[01:03:18] want
[01:03:18] it
[01:03:18] to
[01:03:18] go
[01:03:18] in
[01:03:19] like
[01:03:20] a
[01:03:20] whole
[01:03:20] series
[01:03:20] of
[01:03:21] sequels
[01:03:21] so
[01:03:21] yeah
[01:03:22] let's
[01:03:22] say
[01:03:22] there's
[01:03:22] a
[01:03:22] sequel
[01:03:22] made
[01:03:23] I
[01:03:23] mean
[01:03:23] there's
[01:03:23] there's
[01:03:23] a few
[01:03:23] directions
[01:03:24] they can
[01:03:24] go
[01:03:24] in
[01:03:24] would
[01:03:24] it
[01:03:25] be
[01:03:25] completely
[01:03:25] divorced
[01:03:25] from
[01:03:26] everything
[01:03:26] it would
[01:03:27] tie
[01:03:27] the
[01:03:28] story
[01:03:28] together
[01:03:29] in
[01:03:29] all
[01:03:29] the
[01:03:30] ways
[01:03:30] that
[01:03:30] she
[01:03:30] left
[01:03:30] open
[01:03:32] I
[01:03:34] do
[01:03:35] find
[01:03:35] myself
[01:03:35] kind
[01:03:36] of
[01:03:36] hoping
[01:03:36] that
[01:03:43] hinted
[01:03:43] at
[01:03:44] and
[01:03:44] during
[01:03:44] a
[01:03:44] second
[01:03:45] time
[01:03:45] read
[01:03:45] I'll
[01:03:45] keep
[01:03:46] a
[01:03:46] tally
[01:03:46] of
[01:03:46] all
[01:03:47] the
[01:03:47] things
[01:03:47] I
[01:03:47] thought
[01:03:48] were
[01:03:48] going
[01:03:48] to
[01:03:48] come
[01:03:48] back
[01:03:48] and
[01:03:49] didn't
[01:03:50] and
[01:03:52] I
[01:03:53] feel
[01:03:53] like
[01:03:53] there
[01:03:53] are
[01:03:54] open
[01:03:54] ends
[01:03:55] to
[01:03:55] this
[01:03:55] story
[01:03:56] things
[01:03:57] that
[01:03:57] were
[01:03:57] not
[01:03:58] just
[01:03:58] mentioned
[01:03:58] but
[01:03:59] I
[01:03:59] feel
[01:03:59] like
[01:03:59] almost
[01:04:00] foreshadowed
[01:04:01] and
[01:04:01] obviously
[01:04:02] some
[01:04:03] of the
[01:04:03] big
[01:04:03] ones
[01:04:03] being
[01:04:03] with
[01:04:04] Snape
[01:04:05] specifically
[01:04:05] and
[01:04:08] the
[01:04:08] history
[01:04:09] of
[01:04:09] Harry's
[01:04:09] parents
[01:04:10] and
[01:04:11] the
[01:04:11] Potter
[01:04:12] line
[01:04:12] and
[01:04:13] Harry
[01:04:13] and
[01:04:14] I
[01:04:14] feel
[01:04:15] like
[01:04:15] if
[01:04:16] she
[01:04:17] had
[01:04:17] the
[01:04:17] foresight
[01:04:17] to
[01:04:18] plan
[01:04:18] all
[01:04:19] of
[01:04:19] these
[01:04:19] books
[01:04:19] she
[01:04:20] also
[01:04:21] had
[01:04:21] the
[01:04:21] foresight
[01:04:22] to
[01:04:22] plan
[01:04:22] the
[01:04:23] eighth
[01:04:25] ninth
[01:04:25] and
[01:04:25] tenth
[01:04:25] book
[01:04:26] that
[01:04:26] she
[01:04:26] plans
[01:04:27] on
[01:04:27] writing
[01:04:27] when
[01:04:28] she's
[01:04:28] near
[01:04:29] retirement
[01:04:30] so
[01:04:31] that's
[01:04:31] my
[01:04:32] dream
[01:04:32] a little
[01:04:33] bit
[01:04:33] that
[01:04:33] she
[01:04:33] would
[01:04:34] take
[01:04:34] the
[01:04:34] story
[01:04:35] and
[01:04:36] just
[01:04:36] finish
[01:04:37] it
[01:04:37] not
[01:04:38] to
[01:04:38] insult
[01:04:38] anything
[01:04:39] that
[01:04:39] was
[01:04:39] already
[01:04:39] written
[01:04:39] but
[01:04:41] I
[01:04:41] do
[01:04:41] feel
[01:04:41] like
[01:04:42] there
[01:04:42] is
[01:04:42] more
[01:04:42] to
[01:04:43] tell
[01:04:43] with
[01:04:44] the
[01:04:44] characters
[01:04:44] and
[01:04:45] the
[01:04:46] locations
[01:04:46] we
[01:04:47] already
[01:04:47] love
[01:04:48] happy
[01:04:48] ending
[01:04:48] well
[01:04:49] I
[01:04:50] think
[01:04:50] it
[01:04:50] already
[01:04:50] was
[01:04:50] a
[01:04:50] pretty
[01:04:51] happy
[01:04:51] ending
[01:04:52] and
[01:04:53] I'm
[01:04:53] not
[01:04:53] even
[01:04:53] saying
[01:04:54] the
[01:04:55] whole
[01:04:55] world
[01:04:55] in
[01:04:56] peril
[01:04:56] again
[01:04:56] or
[01:04:57] Voldemort
[01:04:57] coming
[01:04:57] back
[01:04:57] nothing
[01:04:58] dramatic
[01:04:58] like
[01:04:58] that
[01:04:59] but
[01:04:59] I
[01:04:59] just
[01:04:59] think
[01:05:00] there's
[01:05:00] more
[01:05:00] that
[01:05:00] could
[01:05:01] be
[01:05:04] I
[01:05:04] don't
[01:05:05] need
[01:05:05] a lot
[01:05:06] of
[01:05:06] peril
[01:05:07] in the
[01:05:08] next
[01:05:08] story
[01:05:10] undoubtedly
[01:05:11] there will
[01:05:11] be
[01:05:12] because
[01:05:12] that
[01:05:12] does
[01:05:12] make
[01:05:12] for
[01:05:12] good
[01:05:13] stories
[01:05:15] but
[01:05:15] it
[01:05:15] just
[01:05:15] feels
[01:05:16] like
[01:05:17] you
[01:05:17] could
[01:05:18] tell
[01:05:18] a lot
[01:05:18] more
[01:05:18] there's
[01:05:19] a lot
[01:05:19] more
[01:05:20] to it
[01:05:20] and
[01:05:22] there's
[01:05:22] just
[01:05:22] I feel
[01:05:23] like
[01:05:23] the end
[01:05:23] of it
[01:05:24] scratched
[01:05:24] a lot
[01:05:25] of those
[01:05:25] itches
[01:05:25] but I
[01:05:26] still
[01:05:26] got a few
[01:05:27] itches
[01:05:29] I'm dreaming
[01:05:30] of that
[01:05:31] a little
[01:05:31] bit
[01:05:31] and I
[01:05:32] haven't
[01:05:32] watched
[01:05:33] much
[01:05:33] of what
[01:05:33] she said
[01:05:34] after the
[01:05:34] series
[01:05:35] because
[01:05:35] what
[01:05:35] I
[01:05:35] have
[01:05:35] seen
[01:05:36] and
[01:05:36] heard
[01:05:37] makes
[01:05:37] me
[01:05:38] think
[01:05:38] she's
[01:05:39] just
[01:05:39] confirming
[01:05:39] that
[01:05:40] the
[01:05:40] door
[01:05:57] well
[01:05:58] yeah
[01:05:58] but
[01:05:58] I'm
[01:05:59] trying
[01:05:59] to
[01:05:59] just
[01:06:00] open
[01:06:00] that
[01:06:00] tap
[01:06:00] slowly
[01:06:01] I'm
[01:06:01] not
[01:06:01] trying
[01:06:01] to
[01:06:02] drown
[01:06:02] in
[01:06:02] this
[01:06:02] waterfall
[01:06:03] of
[01:06:03] Harry Potter
[01:06:03] magic
[01:06:04] there is
[01:06:04] a lot
[01:06:07] but I'm
[01:06:08] kind of
[01:06:08] going
[01:06:08] through
[01:06:09] and what
[01:06:09] I posted
[01:06:10] a little
[01:06:10] bit of
[01:06:10] is just
[01:06:11] all of
[01:06:11] the things
[01:06:12] from
[01:06:12] Pottermore
[01:06:13] which
[01:06:14] are
[01:06:14] the things
[01:06:15] JK has
[01:06:16] written
[01:06:16] specifically
[01:06:17] about different
[01:06:18] elements of
[01:06:18] the wizarding
[01:06:19] world
[01:06:19] and the
[01:06:20] highlight
[01:06:20] of that
[01:06:21] so far
[01:06:21] McGonagall's
[01:06:22] story
[01:06:22] so good
[01:06:23] isn't that
[01:06:24] so fascinating
[01:06:24] so good
[01:06:25] her back
[01:06:26] so great
[01:06:27] and maybe
[01:06:28] they'll dive
[01:06:28] into that
[01:06:28] in the
[01:06:29] series
[01:06:29] because
[01:06:30] that's
[01:06:31] worthy
[01:06:31] of a
[01:06:32] decent
[01:06:32] amount
[01:06:32] of
[01:06:32] little
[01:06:32] bonus
[01:06:33] time
[01:06:34] but
[01:06:35] yeah
[01:06:35] there's
[01:06:36] so much
[01:06:37] potential
[01:06:38] the world
[01:06:39] we already
[01:06:40] know
[01:06:40] from
[01:06:40] Harry
[01:06:40] Potter
[01:06:41] she just
[01:06:42] goes a little
[01:06:42] deeper
[01:06:42] into it
[01:06:43] so on
[01:06:43] Pottermore
[01:06:45] however
[01:06:45] many it
[01:06:46] is
[01:06:46] I'll call
[01:06:47] it 40
[01:06:47] or 50
[01:06:49] little
[01:06:49] excerpts
[01:06:50] that she
[01:06:52] has just
[01:06:53] put out
[01:06:54] there
[01:06:54] post
[01:06:55] books
[01:06:56] in like
[01:06:56] 2015
[01:06:58] and
[01:06:59] each one
[01:07:00] is about
[01:07:00] a specific
[01:07:00] topic
[01:07:02] and some
[01:07:03] of them
[01:07:03] are really
[01:07:03] short
[01:07:04] and some
[01:07:04] of them
[01:07:05] are long
[01:07:05] and the
[01:07:06] McGonagall
[01:07:06] one was
[01:07:07] long
[01:07:07] and it
[01:07:07] read like
[01:07:08] a story
[01:07:08] about
[01:07:09] her life
[01:07:10] and her
[01:07:10] marriage
[01:07:11] and how
[01:07:12] her marriage
[01:07:13] ended
[01:07:13] and all
[01:07:14] the drama
[01:07:16] and that
[01:07:16] stuff was
[01:07:17] fun
[01:07:17] but I
[01:07:18] don't want
[01:07:18] to read
[01:07:19] that too
[01:07:19] quickly
[01:07:19] because that
[01:07:20] is the
[01:07:20] meat
[01:07:26] but yeah
[01:07:26] I feel
[01:07:27] like
[01:07:27] I still
[01:07:27] want to
[01:07:27] have
[01:07:27] another
[01:07:28] second
[01:07:28] read
[01:07:28] experience
[01:07:29] that's
[01:07:29] a little
[01:07:29] more
[01:07:30] pure
[01:07:30] before I
[01:07:31] go too
[01:07:31] deep
[01:07:31] down
[01:07:32] that
[01:07:32] rabbit hole
[01:07:34] we'll see
[01:07:36] all right
[01:07:37] I rambled
[01:07:37] on have you
[01:07:38] thought of a
[01:07:38] good answer
[01:07:39] Jen
[01:07:39] sequel
[01:07:40] potential
[01:07:40] I'm glad
[01:07:41] you repeated
[01:07:42] the question
[01:07:46] you sucked
[01:07:53] all the
[01:07:53] oh man
[01:07:59] a sequel
[01:08:01] yeah
[01:08:02] I mean
[01:08:02] maybe you
[01:08:03] would tie
[01:08:03] in like
[01:08:04] the kids
[01:08:05] and their
[01:08:06] new life
[01:08:07] in Hogwarts
[01:08:08] and how
[01:08:08] it's changed
[01:08:09] after
[01:08:10] you know
[01:08:11] Baltimore
[01:08:12] was defeated
[01:08:13] and what
[01:08:13] that looks
[01:08:14] like
[01:08:14] and maybe
[01:08:15] the other
[01:08:15] schools
[01:08:16] would be
[01:08:16] integrated
[01:08:17] more
[01:08:17] into it
[01:08:18] not just
[01:08:18] that one
[01:08:20] I don't even
[01:08:20] know when
[01:08:21] they the
[01:08:21] ball or
[01:08:22] something
[01:08:22] is that
[01:08:22] the only
[01:08:23] time they
[01:08:23] come
[01:08:23] to check
[01:08:24] it out
[01:08:25] maybe
[01:08:25] there'd be
[01:08:25] more field
[01:08:26] trips
[01:08:26] or something
[01:08:27] to kind
[01:08:28] of see
[01:08:28] the other
[01:08:29] schools
[01:08:32] and then
[01:08:32] seeing the
[01:08:33] characters
[01:08:33] as parents
[01:08:34] would probably
[01:08:35] be kind
[01:08:35] of funny
[01:08:35] yeah
[01:08:36] agreed
[01:08:36] that's a
[01:08:37] great thing
[01:08:38] that you
[01:08:38] mentioned
[01:08:38] I would
[01:08:39] be so
[01:08:39] fascinating
[01:08:40] to see
[01:08:40] like
[01:08:41] maybe
[01:08:41] this would
[01:08:41] be
[01:08:41] boring
[01:08:42] but like
[01:08:43] legislation
[01:08:43] that the
[01:08:44] wizarding
[01:08:44] world
[01:08:44] puts into
[01:08:45] place
[01:08:45] to like
[01:08:46] prevent
[01:08:46] something
[01:08:46] like this
[01:08:47] from happening
[01:08:47] again
[01:08:47] or like
[01:08:48] how the
[01:08:48] schools
[01:08:49] change
[01:08:49] what they
[01:08:50] teach
[01:08:50] or like
[01:08:51] how they
[01:08:52] behave
[01:08:52] or act
[01:08:53] in order
[01:08:53] to not
[01:08:54] let some
[01:08:54] of this
[01:08:54] stuff
[01:08:54] happen
[01:08:55] again
[01:08:55] like
[01:08:56] how they
[01:08:56] rebuild
[01:08:56] yeah
[01:08:57] I think
[01:08:57] that stuff
[01:08:58] would be
[01:08:58] so fascinating
[01:08:58] to see
[01:08:59] yeah
[01:08:59] you're
[01:08:59] right
[01:08:59] because
[01:09:00] most
[01:09:00] movies
[01:09:00] they like
[01:09:00] you know
[01:09:01] they cut
[01:09:01] out
[01:09:01] as soon as
[01:09:02] they're starting
[01:09:02] to rebuild
[01:09:03] because it's like
[01:09:04] you know
[01:09:04] that's when the end
[01:09:05] really
[01:09:05] yeah
[01:09:06] yeah
[01:09:06] all the conflict
[01:09:07] happens
[01:09:07] they destroy a city
[01:09:08] and like
[01:09:09] the movie ends
[01:09:10] it'd be kind of fun
[01:09:11] to see how they
[01:09:12] rebuild
[01:09:13] I think what you
[01:09:14] were saying
[01:09:14] about classes
[01:09:15] like okay
[01:09:16] maybe we teach
[01:09:16] kids how to
[01:09:17] defend themselves
[01:09:18] better than
[01:09:19] we were doing
[01:09:21] yeah
[01:09:21] just in case
[01:09:22] yeah you're right
[01:09:23] like defense
[01:09:24] against the dark arts
[01:09:25] but that was one
[01:09:26] class and it wasn't
[01:09:27] until older
[01:09:29] and they were kind of
[01:09:30] maintaining teachers
[01:09:30] well hopefully
[01:09:32] that curse
[01:09:32] is gone
[01:09:33] yeah
[01:09:33] now
[01:09:34] who's been the
[01:09:34] teacher since
[01:09:35] yeah
[01:09:36] and it would be
[01:09:37] fun to see that
[01:09:38] I thought you were
[01:09:38] going to tell me
[01:09:39] no I don't know
[01:09:40] we know
[01:09:40] just the way you
[01:09:41] talk
[01:09:43] do we know
[01:09:43] I don't think so
[01:09:44] it would be so fun
[01:09:45] to see like Harry
[01:09:46] take that role
[01:09:46] like I would love
[01:09:47] to see
[01:09:47] I was always bummed
[01:09:49] that Harry didn't
[01:09:49] like you know
[01:09:50] go into Quidditch
[01:09:50] right after
[01:09:51] like you know
[01:09:52] he deserves
[01:09:53] I thought he was
[01:09:54] going to be
[01:09:55] an Auror
[01:09:56] yeah
[01:09:56] which he does
[01:09:57] he goes and does
[01:09:58] oh
[01:09:59] which we're going
[01:10:00] to kind of see
[01:10:00] you seem so
[01:10:02] unenthusiastic
[01:10:02] I kind of am
[01:10:04] because I like
[01:10:04] that he goes
[01:10:05] into that profession
[01:10:06] but I think he
[01:10:07] could actually
[01:10:07] be more used
[01:10:08] like he deserves
[01:10:09] like a 10 year
[01:10:10] breather
[01:10:10] go let him play
[01:10:11] Quidditch
[01:10:12] and let him
[01:10:12] just like
[01:10:13] decompress
[01:10:13] for 10 years
[01:10:14] he could have
[01:10:15] a great
[01:10:15] Quidditch career
[01:10:16] I think of being
[01:10:16] a professor
[01:10:17] would be more
[01:10:17] interesting
[01:10:18] and then he
[01:10:18] goes and
[01:10:19] becomes a professor
[01:10:20] the defense
[01:10:20] against the dark
[01:10:21] arts professor
[01:10:21] that's like his
[01:10:22] second career
[01:10:23] and his third
[01:10:23] career is lower
[01:10:24] summers as an
[01:10:25] Auror
[01:10:26] yes exactly
[01:10:27] yeah
[01:10:27] you know
[01:10:28] yeah
[01:10:28] and that's where
[01:10:29] he's learning
[01:10:29] all the practical
[01:10:30] things that he
[01:10:30] can teach
[01:10:31] yeah
[01:10:32] because he was
[01:10:33] such a good
[01:10:34] teacher
[01:10:35] right
[01:10:35] multiple careers
[01:10:36] in your lifetime
[01:10:37] well yeah
[01:10:37] it's hard to
[01:10:38] support with
[01:10:38] inflation
[01:10:40] and honestly
[01:10:41] it would be fun
[01:10:41] to see a series
[01:10:42] of Harry's psyche
[01:10:43] going through
[01:10:44] teaching
[01:10:44] like I don't
[01:10:46] know if he
[01:10:46] would particularly
[01:10:47] enjoy it
[01:10:47] I think he'd
[01:10:48] think himself
[01:10:48] inadequate at times
[01:10:49] like it's so
[01:10:51] different from a
[01:10:52] Dumbledore teaching
[01:10:52] where Dumbledore
[01:10:53] is so overly
[01:10:54] confident in his
[01:10:55] abilities and he's
[01:10:55] like almost like
[01:10:56] but he's an adult
[01:10:57] now
[01:10:58] yeah exactly
[01:10:58] so would Harry
[01:10:59] feel very confident
[01:11:00] in his teaching
[01:11:01] abilities
[01:11:01] Ginny would
[01:11:02] help him
[01:11:03] yeah
[01:11:03] oh yeah
[01:11:03] little confidence
[01:11:05] that Ginny has
[01:11:05] is rubbing off
[01:11:06] on Harry
[01:11:07] so I just think
[01:11:08] that'd be such a
[01:11:09] fascinating and
[01:11:10] fun deep dive
[01:11:11] on like seeing
[01:11:12] what Harry went
[01:11:13] through for the
[01:11:14] next few years
[01:11:14] of his life
[01:11:15] in like a more
[01:11:16] interesting way
[01:11:17] than just being
[01:11:17] an Auror
[01:11:18] I think he has
[01:11:19] like he can have
[01:11:20] cooler backstory
[01:11:20] yep
[01:11:21] I don't know
[01:11:22] an Auror feels
[01:11:23] like not the
[01:11:24] best use of
[01:11:25] Harry
[01:11:25] ah yeah
[01:11:26] I kind of
[01:11:26] agree
[01:11:27] like it made
[01:11:27] sense when
[01:11:28] Voldemort was
[01:11:28] out there
[01:11:29] but now
[01:11:29] like what's
[01:11:30] the you know
[01:11:31] what do you
[01:11:32] you already did
[01:11:33] it you got to
[01:11:34] the top
[01:11:34] you crushed
[01:11:35] all evil
[01:11:35] and now
[01:11:36] what is it
[01:11:37] being an Auror
[01:11:38] I feel like
[01:11:39] it's not
[01:11:41] maybe that's
[01:11:42] what it could
[01:11:43] be about
[01:11:43] him finding
[01:11:44] out it's not
[01:11:44] all it's cracked
[01:11:45] up to be
[01:11:45] um
[01:11:47] but was he
[01:11:48] actually good
[01:11:48] or was it just
[01:11:49] because he was
[01:11:50] a Horcrux
[01:11:50] that he was
[01:11:51] good
[01:11:52] yeah
[01:11:53] that's a great
[01:11:54] point
[01:11:54] because maybe his
[01:11:55] confidence is going
[01:11:56] to falter for that
[01:11:56] and Ginny is
[01:11:57] giving him pep
[01:11:59] talks every single
[01:12:00] day after he
[01:12:01] teaches because he
[01:12:01] feels inadequate
[01:12:02] because maybe
[01:12:02] the entire time
[01:12:03] he really just
[01:12:04] was doing this
[01:12:05] because he had
[01:12:06] a part of
[01:12:06] Voldemort living
[01:12:07] inside of him
[01:12:07] so maybe
[01:12:08] when that part
[01:12:09] is destroyed
[01:12:09] he doesn't know
[01:12:11] how to do
[01:12:11] magic that well
[01:12:12] anymore
[01:12:12] I don't know
[01:12:14] how much do you
[01:12:14] think his
[01:12:15] personality changed
[01:12:16] I viewed it
[01:12:17] as almost
[01:12:18] not at all
[01:12:19] but you
[01:12:20] are viewing it
[01:12:21] a little bit
[01:12:21] like that
[01:12:22] his personality
[01:12:23] would change
[01:12:23] he might not
[01:12:24] be good
[01:12:24] at the same
[01:12:24] things
[01:12:25] he might
[01:12:26] change in
[01:12:26] confidence
[01:12:27] more or less
[01:12:28] we don't know
[01:12:29] that's interesting
[01:12:30] that's a fascinating
[01:12:31] idea
[01:12:37] he fixes
[01:12:38] his wand too
[01:12:38] I forget
[01:12:39] because in the
[01:12:40] movies
[01:12:40] he snaps it
[01:12:41] and doesn't
[01:12:42] fix his wand
[01:12:42] in the books
[01:12:43] he fixes his
[01:12:44] wand
[01:12:44] and then
[01:12:45] leaves the
[01:12:46] wand
[01:12:47] in
[01:12:47] and
[01:12:47] yeah
[01:12:48] it's a huge
[01:12:49] open end
[01:12:49] and leaves
[01:12:50] the wand
[01:12:50] fully put
[01:12:52] together in
[01:12:52] Dumbledore's
[01:12:53] grave
[01:12:54] that's the
[01:12:55] perfect sequel
[01:12:55] right there
[01:12:56] perfect sequel
[01:12:57] we can tie up
[01:12:58] all the loose
[01:12:59] ends that
[01:12:59] already exist
[01:13:00] because there
[01:13:00] were always
[01:13:01] planning on
[01:13:02] doing
[01:13:02] but
[01:13:02] I think
[01:13:03] there will
[01:13:04] always be
[01:13:04] a master
[01:13:05] of the
[01:13:05] elder wand
[01:13:07] like
[01:13:07] even if
[01:13:08] harry just
[01:13:08] dies
[01:13:09] I still think
[01:13:10] the elder wand
[01:13:10] probably has
[01:13:11] enough wherewithal
[01:13:12] and almost
[01:13:12] like I think
[01:13:13] joe like
[01:13:14] knew that she
[01:13:15] was writing
[01:13:15] that in there
[01:13:16] too
[01:13:17] she left
[01:13:18] that door
[01:13:18] open
[01:13:19] it's like
[01:13:19] yeah
[01:13:19] she knew
[01:13:20] it
[01:13:20] yeah
[01:13:21] she's leaving
[01:13:21] some doors
[01:13:22] open
[01:13:22] try these
[01:13:23] other things
[01:13:24] yeah
[01:13:24] agree
[01:13:24] no of course
[01:13:25] I'm not saying
[01:13:26] right now
[01:13:26] I'm saying
[01:13:26] when she's
[01:13:27] 70
[01:13:30] she's gonna
[01:13:30] come back
[01:13:31] to it
[01:13:31] or
[01:13:32] she wrote
[01:13:33] the book
[01:13:33] and it
[01:13:33] releases
[01:13:34] on her
[01:13:34] death
[01:13:35] that's a little
[01:13:36] much
[01:13:36] but
[01:13:36] I feel like
[01:13:38] I don't know
[01:13:40] it is
[01:13:41] odd to leave
[01:13:43] that open
[01:13:43] ended
[01:13:43] when she
[01:13:44] laid so much
[01:13:45] groundwork for
[01:13:46] it
[01:13:47] and then
[01:13:47] just to leave
[01:13:48] it in the
[01:13:48] world
[01:13:48] I kind of
[01:13:49] forgot about
[01:13:49] that
[01:13:49] that makes
[01:13:50] so much
[01:13:50] sense
[01:13:52] and then
[01:13:53] it could be
[01:13:53] a lord of the
[01:13:54] rings parallel
[01:13:54] for the actual
[01:13:55] story
[01:13:56] whenever it
[01:13:56] comes out
[01:13:58] someone
[01:13:59] so someone
[01:14:00] just said
[01:14:00] this on the
[01:14:01] live too
[01:14:01] but I just
[01:14:01] saw a little
[01:14:02] article about
[01:14:03] this too
[01:14:03] and that
[01:14:04] there's a
[01:14:05] Hogwarts
[01:14:05] legacy sequel
[01:14:06] and it's
[01:14:06] going to
[01:14:06] coordinate
[01:14:07] with the
[01:14:07] big picture
[01:14:08] story elements
[01:14:09] in the
[01:14:09] HBO series
[01:14:11] I don't know
[01:14:11] how that's
[01:14:12] going to work
[01:14:12] but I think
[01:14:13] they're
[01:14:14] weirdly
[01:14:14] I think
[01:14:15] they're
[01:14:15] taking a
[01:14:16] some of
[01:14:17] the video
[01:14:17] game elements
[01:14:17] of like
[01:14:18] the actual
[01:14:19] castle
[01:14:19] and some
[01:14:20] of the
[01:14:20] grounds
[01:14:20] and some
[01:14:20] of the
[01:14:20] story
[01:14:21] into the
[01:14:22] HBO series
[01:14:23] which is
[01:14:24] kind of
[01:14:24] cool
[01:14:24] I feel
[01:14:25] like
[01:14:25] that
[01:14:25] will be
[01:14:26] a
[01:14:26] fascinating
[01:14:26] part
[01:14:27] of it
[01:14:27] to see
[01:14:28] much more
[01:14:29] unity
[01:14:29] between
[01:14:31] seasons
[01:14:31] of the
[01:14:32] show
[01:14:32] in
[01:14:33] little
[01:14:33] things
[01:14:34] even
[01:14:34] just like
[01:14:34] the
[01:14:34] castle
[01:14:35] and the
[01:14:35] grounds
[01:14:36] and
[01:14:36] places
[01:14:37] where they
[01:14:37] filmed
[01:14:37] because
[01:14:38] I feel
[01:14:38] like
[01:14:38] some
[01:14:38] of
[01:14:38] that
[01:14:39] was
[01:14:46] but that
[01:14:46] would be
[01:14:47] so cool
[01:14:47] to see
[01:14:47] the video
[01:14:48] game
[01:14:48] tied in
[01:14:48] I saw
[01:14:49] that
[01:14:49] announcement
[01:14:50] but I
[01:14:50] didn't know
[01:14:50] much about
[01:14:51] it
[01:14:51] yeah
[01:14:51] I don't
[01:14:51] know exactly
[01:14:52] what that
[01:14:52] means
[01:14:53] but
[01:14:54] it's
[01:14:55] going to
[01:14:55] be fun
[01:14:55] to see
[01:14:55] what they
[01:14:56] do
[01:14:57] yeah
[01:14:57] yeah
[01:14:58] it's
[01:14:58] pretty
[01:14:59] great
[01:15:05] let's
[01:15:05] do
[01:15:05] a
[01:15:09] you
[01:15:09] can
[01:15:09] rank
[01:15:09] the
[01:15:09] books
[01:15:10] if
[01:15:10] you
[01:15:10] want
[01:15:11] or
[01:15:12] you
[01:15:12] can
[01:15:12] just
[01:15:12] give
[01:15:12] me
[01:15:12] what
[01:15:13] your
[01:15:13] favorite
[01:15:13] book
[01:15:13] is
[01:15:15] I'm
[01:15:15] not
[01:15:15] sure
[01:15:15] I'm
[01:15:16] going to
[01:15:16] remember
[01:15:16] what
[01:15:17] that's
[01:15:18] why
[01:15:18] I said
[01:15:18] you
[01:15:18] don't
[01:15:18] necessarily
[01:15:19] have
[01:15:19] to
[01:15:19] rank
[01:15:19] them
[01:15:19] you
[01:15:20] can
[01:15:20] just
[01:15:20] give
[01:15:20] me
[01:15:20] what
[01:15:20] your
[01:15:21] favorite
[01:15:22] one
[01:15:22] is
[01:15:22] but
[01:15:22] if
[01:15:23] you
[01:15:23] give
[01:15:23] me
[01:15:23] that
[01:15:23] one
[01:15:23] you
[01:15:23] have
[01:15:23] to
[01:15:23] say
[01:15:24] why
[01:15:27] why
[01:15:27] why
[01:15:28] don't
[01:15:28] we
[01:15:28] get
[01:15:28] back
[01:15:28] in
[01:15:28] school
[01:15:31] homework
[01:15:32] yeah
[01:15:32] this is
[01:15:32] like
[01:15:33] a
[01:15:33] pop
[01:15:33] quiz
[01:15:34] it
[01:15:34] is
[01:15:36] not
[01:15:38] at
[01:15:39] the
[01:15:39] forefront
[01:15:39] of
[01:15:39] my
[01:15:40] mind
[01:15:42] what
[01:15:43] did
[01:15:43] I
[01:15:43] say
[01:15:43] last
[01:15:43] time
[01:15:44] well
[01:15:45] I
[01:15:45] think
[01:15:46] it
[01:15:46] is
[01:15:46] interesting
[01:15:46] with
[01:15:46] time
[01:15:47] because
[01:15:48] then
[01:15:48] time
[01:15:48] kind
[01:15:49] of
[01:15:49] filters
[01:15:49] out
[01:15:50] other
[01:15:50] things
[01:15:51] that
[01:15:51] were
[01:15:51] less
[01:15:51] impactful
[01:15:52] yeah
[01:15:52] oh
[01:15:53] I'll
[01:15:53] never
[01:15:53] forget
[01:15:53] the
[01:15:54] beginning
[01:15:55] okay
[01:15:55] nice
[01:15:56] what
[01:15:56] part
[01:15:56] was
[01:15:56] that
[01:16:04] yeah
[01:16:04] and
[01:16:05] I
[01:16:05] was
[01:16:05] what's
[01:16:06] happening
[01:16:06] and
[01:16:06] is
[01:16:07] that
[01:16:07] where
[01:16:07] moody
[01:16:08] is
[01:16:09] the
[01:16:09] fake
[01:16:10] yeah
[01:16:10] see
[01:16:11] because
[01:16:11] we
[01:16:11] were
[01:16:11] detectives
[01:16:12] and
[01:16:13] that
[01:16:13] one
[01:16:13] because
[01:16:15] we
[01:16:15] figured
[01:16:16] it
[01:16:16] out
[01:16:16] yeah
[01:16:16] I
[01:16:17] think
[01:16:17] the
[01:16:17] fourth
[01:16:17] was
[01:16:18] probably
[01:16:18] your
[01:16:18] favorite
[01:16:18] for
[01:16:19] those
[01:16:19] reasons
[01:16:19] yeah
[01:16:20] you
[01:16:21] seemed
[01:16:21] to
[01:16:21] really
[01:16:21] enjoy
[01:16:21] it
[01:16:22] I
[01:16:33] on
[01:16:34] the
[01:16:34] plane
[01:16:34] listening
[01:16:35] together
[01:16:35] and
[01:16:35] talking
[01:16:36] about
[01:16:36] it
[01:16:36] that
[01:16:37] doesn't
[01:16:38] seem
[01:16:38] like
[01:16:38] his
[01:16:39] personality
[01:16:40] yeah
[01:16:41] that
[01:16:41] was
[01:16:41] great
[01:16:42] that
[01:16:42] was
[01:16:43] so
[01:16:43] cool
[01:16:43] yeah
[01:16:44] it
[01:16:44] was
[01:16:44] it
[01:16:44] was
[01:16:44] great
[01:16:45] it
[01:16:45] was
[01:16:45] that's
[01:16:45] probably
[01:16:45] why
[01:16:46] I like
[01:16:46] him
[01:16:46] yeah
[01:16:47] because
[01:16:48] because
[01:16:49] it
[01:16:49] was
[01:16:51] you
[01:16:51] know
[01:16:51] right
[01:16:52] we're
[01:16:53] a little
[01:16:53] um
[01:16:55] biased
[01:16:56] in some
[01:16:56] ways
[01:16:57] from
[01:17:03] prisoner
[01:17:04] of
[01:17:04] Azkaban
[01:17:05] has
[01:17:06] gone
[01:17:06] up
[01:17:07] in my
[01:17:07] list
[01:17:08] it's
[01:17:09] a great
[01:17:09] book
[01:17:10] as a
[01:17:10] movie
[01:17:11] and
[01:17:11] book
[01:17:12] but
[01:17:13] because
[01:17:13] they were
[01:17:13] kind of
[01:17:13] working
[01:17:14] together
[01:17:14] because
[01:17:15] the
[01:17:15] studio
[01:17:15] I guess
[01:17:16] cycles
[01:17:17] through
[01:17:17] some
[01:17:17] of the
[01:17:17] stuff
[01:17:17] they
[01:17:18] have
[01:17:18] in
[01:17:18] their
[01:17:18] warehouse
[01:17:19] and
[01:17:20] they
[01:17:20] were
[01:17:21] focusing
[01:17:21] specifically
[01:17:22] on
[01:17:22] um
[01:17:23] props
[01:17:24] and
[01:17:24] sets
[01:17:25] from
[01:17:25] prisoner
[01:17:26] of
[01:17:26] Azkaban
[01:17:26] so
[01:17:27] that
[01:17:27] helped
[01:17:28] bring it
[01:17:29] front of
[01:17:29] mind
[01:17:30] um
[01:17:30] but I
[01:17:32] feel like
[01:17:32] there was
[01:17:33] something
[01:17:33] magical
[01:17:34] about it
[01:17:34] and I
[01:17:35] feel like
[01:17:35] that's
[01:17:36] where the
[01:17:36] movies
[01:17:37] brought it
[01:17:37] to a
[01:17:38] great
[01:17:38] level
[01:17:38] of
[01:17:39] they
[01:17:39] had
[01:17:39] a
[01:17:39] budget
[01:17:40] it
[01:17:40] started
[01:17:40] to get
[01:17:41] like
[01:17:41] more
[01:17:42] well
[01:17:42] known
[01:17:42] it
[01:17:43] felt
[01:17:43] more
[01:17:43] polished
[01:17:44] and
[01:17:44] it
[01:17:45] was
[01:17:45] reaching
[01:17:45] like
[01:17:46] um
[01:17:46] kind
[01:17:47] of
[01:17:47] peak
[01:17:47] magic
[01:17:48] um
[01:17:48] but
[01:17:49] it
[01:17:49] was
[01:17:49] still
[01:17:51] I
[01:17:51] don't
[01:17:51] know
[01:17:52] it
[01:17:52] still
[01:17:52] felt
[01:17:52] like
[01:17:52] it
[01:17:52] was
[01:17:53] something
[01:17:53] special
[01:17:54] still
[01:17:54] a
[01:17:55] hidden
[01:17:55] gem
[01:17:55] still
[01:17:56] like
[01:17:56] it
[01:17:56] didn't
[01:17:56] feel
[01:17:57] too
[01:17:57] Hollywood
[01:17:57] yet
[01:17:57] um
[01:17:58] but as
[01:17:59] far as
[01:17:59] my
[01:18:00] actual
[01:18:01] ranking
[01:18:01] I feel
[01:18:02] like
[01:18:02] I'd
[01:18:02] go
[01:18:05] four
[01:18:06] three
[01:18:07] wait
[01:18:08] wait
[01:18:08] okay
[01:18:09] four
[01:18:09] is
[01:18:09] your
[01:18:09] favorite
[01:18:09] five
[01:18:10] two
[01:18:10] one
[01:18:11] okay
[01:18:11] can
[01:18:12] you
[01:18:13] say
[01:18:13] the
[01:18:13] titles
[01:18:13] again
[01:18:14] um
[01:18:16] it's
[01:18:16] the
[01:18:17] sorcerer's
[01:18:18] stone
[01:18:18] chamber
[01:18:18] of
[01:18:18] secrets
[01:18:19] prisoner
[01:18:19] of
[01:18:19] azkaban
[01:18:20] goblet
[01:18:20] of
[01:18:20] fire
[01:18:20] um
[01:18:21] the
[01:18:22] order
[01:18:22] of
[01:18:22] the
[01:18:22] phoenix
[01:18:23] half
[01:18:23] blood
[01:18:23] prince
[01:18:24] and
[01:18:24] death
[01:18:24] hallows
[01:18:25] oh
[01:18:25] half
[01:18:26] blood
[01:18:26] prince
[01:18:26] was
[01:18:26] good
[01:18:27] too
[01:18:27] that's
[01:18:28] great
[01:18:28] so
[01:18:29] half
[01:18:29] blood
[01:18:29] prince
[01:18:29] is
[01:18:30] an
[01:18:30] interesting
[01:18:30] one
[01:18:30] because
[01:18:30] I
[01:18:31] thought
[01:18:31] you
[01:18:31] were
[01:18:31] going
[01:18:31] to
[01:18:31] like
[01:18:35] half
[01:18:35] when we
[01:18:36] finished
[01:18:36] it
[01:18:37] you
[01:18:37] liked
[01:18:38] it
[01:18:38] you
[01:18:38] guys
[01:18:38] liked
[01:18:39] it
[01:18:39] but
[01:18:39] it
[01:18:39] was
[01:18:39] like
[01:18:39] I
[01:18:40] think
[01:18:40] when
[01:18:40] that
[01:18:40] one
[01:18:40] sinks
[01:18:41] in
[01:18:41] a little
[01:18:41] bit
[01:18:41] I
[01:18:41] think
[01:18:41] you
[01:18:41] guys
[01:18:42] reread
[01:18:42] that
[01:18:43] one
[01:18:43] that
[01:18:43] might
[01:18:43] be
[01:18:43] your
[01:18:43] favorite
[01:18:43] okay
[01:18:44] yeah
[01:18:44] but
[01:18:44] I
[01:19:05] like
[01:19:06] want
[01:19:07] the
[01:19:07] next
[01:19:07] yeah
[01:19:07] yeah
[01:19:10] so
[01:19:12] I
[01:19:13] can't
[01:19:13] enjoy
[01:19:13] it
[01:19:14] because
[01:19:15] I
[01:19:15] need
[01:19:15] to
[01:19:15] know
[01:19:15] the
[01:19:15] ending
[01:19:16] yeah
[01:19:16] but
[01:19:17] now
[01:19:17] it
[01:19:17] might
[01:19:17] be
[01:19:17] different
[01:19:18] what
[01:19:18] yeah
[01:19:19] no
[01:19:19] it
[01:19:19] just
[01:19:20] it's
[01:19:20] tough
[01:19:20] because
[01:19:21] my
[01:19:21] answer
[01:19:22] would
[01:19:22] change
[01:19:22] on a
[01:19:23] day
[01:19:23] to
[01:19:24] day
[01:19:24] basis
[01:19:24] and
[01:19:25] I
[01:19:25] could
[01:19:25] read
[01:19:25] one
[01:19:26] article
[01:19:26] or
[01:19:27] watch
[01:19:27] one
[01:19:27] little
[01:19:28] thing
[01:19:28] and
[01:19:28] my
[01:19:28] list
[01:19:29] would
[01:19:29] shift
[01:19:29] around
[01:19:30] because
[01:19:30] it's
[01:19:31] not
[01:19:31] that
[01:19:35] the
[01:19:37] first
[01:19:43] one
[01:19:46] has
[01:19:46] always
[01:19:46] been
[01:19:47] magical
[01:19:47] because
[01:19:48] it's
[01:19:48] introduction
[01:19:48] to
[01:19:48] the
[01:19:49] world
[01:19:49] but
[01:19:50] in
[01:19:50] light
[01:19:51] of
[01:19:51] the
[01:19:51] whole
[01:19:51] scope
[01:19:52] we
[01:19:53] know
[01:19:53] now
[01:19:55] the
[01:19:56] first
[01:19:56] one
[01:19:56] just
[01:19:56] I
[01:19:57] don't
[01:19:57] know
[01:19:58] something
[01:19:58] about
[01:19:58] it
[01:19:58] just
[01:19:58] feels
[01:19:59] less
[01:20:00] impactful
[01:20:00] not
[01:20:01] like
[01:20:01] it's
[01:20:01] worse
[01:20:02] I'm
[01:20:02] not
[01:20:02] trying
[01:20:02] to
[01:20:02] hate
[01:20:02] on
[01:20:03] it
[01:20:05] so
[01:20:06] it
[01:20:06] does
[01:20:07] I
[01:20:07] don't
[01:20:07] hate
[01:20:07] any
[01:20:08] of
[01:20:08] the
[01:20:08] books
[01:20:09] it
[01:20:10] is
[01:20:10] just
[01:20:10] genuinely
[01:20:11] hard
[01:20:11] to
[01:20:11] choose
[01:20:12] because
[01:20:12] they're
[01:20:13] all
[01:20:13] great
[01:20:13] in
[01:20:13] their
[01:20:13] own
[01:20:13] way
[01:20:14] but
[01:20:15] if
[01:20:15] I
[01:20:16] right
[01:20:16] now
[01:20:16] were
[01:20:17] to
[01:20:17] say
[01:20:18] I
[01:20:18] would
[01:20:18] say
[01:20:20] four
[01:20:20] Goblet
[01:20:21] of
[01:20:21] Fire
[01:20:21] three
[01:20:22] Prisoner
[01:20:23] of
[01:20:23] Azkaban
[01:20:23] three
[01:20:24] is your
[01:20:25] second
[01:20:25] favorite
[01:20:26] I
[01:20:26] think
[01:20:26] that
[01:20:27] just
[01:20:27] trended
[01:20:27] so high
[01:20:28] I
[01:20:28] don't
[01:20:28] know
[01:20:29] why
[01:20:29] it
[01:20:29] is
[01:20:29] great
[01:20:30] when
[01:20:30] you
[01:20:30] reread
[01:20:31] it
[01:20:31] it
[01:20:31] fits
[01:20:31] it's
[01:20:32] a
[01:20:32] good
[01:20:35] the
[01:20:35] final
[01:20:36] three
[01:20:36] feels
[01:20:36] tough
[01:20:37] because
[01:20:37] Deathly
[01:20:37] Hollows
[01:20:38] I
[01:20:38] really
[01:20:38] did
[01:20:38] enjoy
[01:20:39] the
[01:20:39] ending
[01:20:39] but
[01:20:40] it
[01:20:40] left
[01:20:40] me
[01:20:40] with
[01:20:40] a
[01:20:41] couple
[01:20:41] itches
[01:20:41] so
[01:20:42] I
[01:20:42] would
[01:20:42] say
[01:20:42] Deathly
[01:20:42] Hollows
[01:20:43] then
[01:20:43] Chamber
[01:20:44] of
[01:20:44] Secrets
[01:20:44] and
[01:20:45] Philosopher's
[01:20:45] Stone
[01:21:00] I'll
[01:21:06] well
[01:21:06] yeah
[01:21:06] because
[01:21:07] the
[01:21:07] whole
[01:21:07] series
[01:21:07] black
[01:21:08] thing
[01:21:08] I
[01:21:08] think
[01:21:09] actually
[01:21:09] has
[01:21:10] a lot
[01:21:11] of
[01:21:11] merit
[01:21:11] to
[01:21:12] it
[01:21:12] as
[01:21:12] far
[01:21:12] as
[01:21:13] quality
[01:21:14] intrigue
[01:21:15] that
[01:21:17] has
[01:21:17] aged
[01:21:18] well
[01:21:18] that
[01:21:19] has
[01:21:19] aged
[01:21:19] very
[01:21:20] well
[01:21:20] and
[01:21:20] I'm
[01:21:21] looking
[01:21:22] forward
[01:21:22] to
[01:21:22] reading
[01:21:22] that
[01:21:23] again
[01:21:23] because
[01:21:24] we
[01:21:25] get
[01:21:25] more
[01:21:26] information
[01:21:26] that
[01:21:27] now
[01:21:27] we
[01:21:27] can
[01:21:28] read
[01:21:28] with
[01:21:28] a
[01:21:28] new
[01:21:28] light
[01:21:29] so
[01:21:30] I'm
[01:21:30] kind
[01:21:30] of
[01:21:31] psyched
[01:21:31] for
[01:21:31] that
[01:21:31] one
[01:21:33] it
[01:21:33] is
[01:21:33] I will
[01:21:34] say
[01:21:34] a
[01:21:35] second
[01:21:35] read
[01:21:35] is
[01:21:36] really
[01:21:36] fun
[01:21:36] like
[01:21:37] going
[01:21:37] through
[01:21:37] them
[01:21:38] then
[01:21:38] you're
[01:21:38] able
[01:21:38] to
[01:21:39] pick
[01:21:39] up
[01:21:39] on
[01:21:39] the
[01:21:39] clues
[01:21:39] that
[01:21:40] you
[01:21:40] kind
[01:21:40] of
[01:21:40] missed
[01:21:40] because
[01:21:41] the
[01:21:41] third
[01:21:41] book
[01:21:41] there's
[01:21:42] parts
[01:21:43] of me
[01:21:43] when I
[01:21:43] read
[01:21:43] the
[01:21:43] third
[01:21:44] book
[01:21:45] in the
[01:21:46] beginning
[01:21:46] I'm
[01:21:46] like
[01:21:46] okay
[01:21:47] when
[01:21:47] will
[01:21:47] this
[01:21:47] pick
[01:21:48] up
[01:21:48] and
[01:21:48] then
[01:21:48] halfway
[01:21:48] through
[01:21:49] the
[01:21:49] third
[01:21:49] book
[01:21:49] it
[01:21:49] just
[01:21:51] goes
[01:21:51] and
[01:21:53] every
[01:21:53] single
[01:21:53] time
[01:21:53] I
[01:22:04] that's
[01:22:04] why
[01:22:04] Lupin
[01:22:05] is
[01:22:05] when
[01:22:11] he's
[01:22:13] teaching
[01:22:14] the
[01:22:14] Patronus
[01:22:15] to
[01:22:15] Harry
[01:22:15] and
[01:22:16] all
[01:22:16] of
[01:22:16] these
[01:22:16] great
[01:22:16] moments
[01:22:17] so
[01:22:18] again
[01:22:18] my
[01:22:18] list
[01:22:18] might
[01:22:18] change
[01:22:20] and
[01:22:21] I
[01:22:21] will
[01:22:22] have
[01:22:22] to
[01:22:22] reorder
[01:22:22] that
[01:22:23] list
[01:22:23] as
[01:22:23] I
[01:22:23] read
[01:22:24] the
[01:22:24] second
[01:22:24] time
[01:22:24] so
[01:22:26] your
[01:22:27] final
[01:22:27] answer
[01:22:28] is
[01:22:28] you're
[01:22:29] saying
[01:22:29] Goblet
[01:22:30] of
[01:22:30] Fire
[01:22:31] is
[01:22:31] just
[01:22:31] your
[01:22:31] favorite
[01:22:32] through
[01:22:33] and
[01:22:33] through
[01:22:33] and
[01:22:33] that's
[01:22:33] been
[01:22:33] pretty
[01:22:34] consistent
[01:22:34] for us
[01:22:34] for a
[01:22:35] while
[01:22:35] yeah
[01:22:37] that makes
[01:22:38] sense
[01:22:39] and
[01:22:40] then
[01:22:40] Half
[01:22:40] Blood
[01:22:41] I
[01:22:41] think
[01:22:42] it's
[01:22:42] similar
[01:22:42] but
[01:22:42] maybe
[01:22:43] I'd
[01:22:43] flip
[01:22:43] no
[01:22:44] no
[01:22:44] that's
[01:22:44] a
[01:22:45] so
[01:22:45] you
[01:22:45] would
[01:22:46] say
[01:22:46] Goblet
[01:22:46] of
[01:22:46] Fire
[01:22:46] then
[01:22:47] Half
[01:22:47] Blood
[01:22:48] Prince
[01:22:48] maybe
[01:23:04] I
[01:23:38] it's a great list
[01:23:41] nice
[01:23:43] it is funny
[01:23:43] chamber is
[01:23:44] again when you
[01:23:45] reread it
[01:23:46] again when
[01:23:47] not if
[01:23:48] yeah respect
[01:23:49] chamber
[01:23:50] you're gonna reread
[01:23:51] chamber
[01:23:51] and it's still
[01:23:52] probably gonna rank
[01:23:53] at the bottom of your list
[01:23:54] but you're gonna reread
[01:23:54] and you're gonna be like
[01:23:55] that was just a fun book
[01:23:56] it was
[01:23:57] it's
[01:23:57] all of them are still
[01:23:58] so good
[01:23:59] they're like
[01:23:59] just great
[01:24:00] it's a great series
[01:24:01] it's so good guys
[01:24:02] so good
[01:24:04] good you started a podcast
[01:24:07] yeah exactly
[01:24:09] exactly
[01:24:10] it is funny
[01:24:11] we have someone
[01:24:12] who's in chat right now
[01:24:13] and they just said
[01:24:14] they just finished
[01:24:16] binging our podcast
[01:24:17] for the first time
[01:24:19] season one
[01:24:19] well done
[01:24:20] and it's like
[01:24:21] everyone finds us
[01:24:22] because they're looking
[01:24:22] for exactly what we have
[01:24:24] which is like a
[01:24:25] first time read experience
[01:24:27] that isn't like
[01:24:28] Potterless
[01:24:28] which is like
[01:24:29] just flamboyant
[01:24:30] and flippant
[01:24:30] and like they don't
[01:24:31] treat it with any seriousness
[01:24:32] they're like
[01:24:32] they want a first time
[01:24:33] read experience
[01:24:34] of people really
[01:24:35] going through this
[01:24:36] slow
[01:24:36] deep dives
[01:24:37] onto everything
[01:24:38] we gotcha
[01:24:39] that's what our MO is
[01:24:41] we need to take it
[01:24:41] very seriously
[01:24:42] as we should
[01:24:44] sorry for the eating
[01:24:45] yeah that is the one
[01:24:47] there is one episode
[01:24:48] where you're eating popcorn
[01:24:50] and people cannot get
[01:24:51] through that episode
[01:24:52] that is so funny
[01:24:54] oh my goodness
[01:24:58] we
[01:24:59] Chewy
[01:24:59] so Chewy
[01:25:00] was one of the most
[01:25:02] instrumental people
[01:25:03] in this podcast
[01:25:04] to behind the scenes
[01:25:04] because he recorded
[01:25:05] all your predictions
[01:25:07] which I still have to
[01:25:08] go through all
[01:25:09] all of them
[01:25:09] and maybe just
[01:25:10] individually with us
[01:25:10] three we can kind
[01:25:11] of go through
[01:25:11] some of those
[01:25:12] even like online
[01:25:13] or something like that
[01:25:13] just to see what
[01:25:14] you've
[01:25:15] what you've
[01:25:16] created
[01:25:16] I think I won
[01:25:18] I think you might have
[01:25:20] we'll see
[01:25:21] we'll see
[01:25:22] did you guys
[01:25:23] have a favorite
[01:25:23] prediction
[01:25:25] that you guys
[01:25:25] made in the series
[01:25:27] wait
[01:25:27] say that again
[01:25:28] do you guys
[01:25:28] have a favorite
[01:25:29] prediction
[01:25:29] that you made
[01:25:30] in the series
[01:25:30] like what was
[01:25:31] one thing
[01:25:31] that you predicted
[01:25:32] that you got
[01:25:33] right
[01:25:33] well I said
[01:25:34] it just before
[01:25:35] I got so excited
[01:25:36] that I think
[01:25:37] that was your
[01:25:38] the imposter
[01:25:38] I'm like how
[01:25:39] could I have
[01:25:40] gotten that
[01:25:40] yeah
[01:25:40] yeah that was
[01:25:41] I mean I'm sure
[01:25:42] other people have
[01:25:43] too but
[01:25:43] yeah
[01:25:44] that was very
[01:25:45] satisfying
[01:25:45] I feel like
[01:25:46] the scabbers
[01:25:47] prediction was
[01:25:48] very satisfying
[01:25:49] yeah that was
[01:25:49] great
[01:25:49] only because
[01:25:50] that there was
[01:25:51] not a doubt
[01:25:52] in my mind
[01:25:53] it all just
[01:25:53] came together
[01:25:54] it clicked
[01:25:54] in a way
[01:25:55] that was
[01:25:55] satisfying
[01:25:56] only because
[01:25:57] of the timing
[01:25:58] and the 13
[01:25:58] years and I was
[01:25:59] like there it is
[01:26:00] yeah
[01:26:00] and a lot of
[01:26:01] predictions never
[01:26:02] felt like that
[01:26:03] it was more
[01:26:04] of a lot
[01:26:06] of other
[01:26:06] predictions were
[01:26:07] more of throwing
[01:26:08] something out
[01:26:08] there and then
[01:26:09] some of them
[01:26:09] stuck and that's
[01:26:10] fun too
[01:26:10] but I feel like
[01:26:11] those early
[01:26:12] predictions were
[01:26:13] fun just
[01:26:14] because we
[01:26:16] actually knew
[01:26:17] we were hot
[01:26:18] on the trail
[01:26:18] you know we
[01:26:19] were like chasing
[01:26:20] down the leads
[01:26:21] there
[01:26:23] so yeah I
[01:26:24] would say the
[01:26:24] goblet of fire
[01:26:25] predictions and
[01:26:27] scabbers those
[01:26:28] were some
[01:26:29] highlights for
[01:26:30] maybe you
[01:26:30] beat me then
[01:26:31] I don't
[01:26:31] remember
[01:26:32] no I mean
[01:26:33] you guys were
[01:26:33] pretty close
[01:26:34] Danny was
[01:26:35] you know
[01:26:35] casting a
[01:26:35] wide
[01:26:36] yeah I was
[01:26:36] going to say
[01:26:36] if we were
[01:26:37] even tied
[01:26:38] it definitely
[01:26:39] goes to you
[01:26:39] because I
[01:26:40] just said
[01:26:41] way too much
[01:26:42] so it's not a fair
[01:26:43] comparison
[01:26:43] if it's on
[01:26:44] like you know
[01:26:46] proportionally
[01:26:46] yeah yeah
[01:26:47] you would
[01:26:48] destroy Danny
[01:26:49] I predicted
[01:26:50] a thousand things
[01:26:51] you made like
[01:26:52] ten predictions
[01:26:52] and like nine
[01:26:53] of them was true
[01:26:54] yep
[01:26:54] Danny made like
[01:26:55] ten thousand
[01:26:56] and nine of them
[01:26:56] were true
[01:26:57] yeah so it's
[01:26:58] a bad ratio
[01:26:59] there is an
[01:27:00] episode that I
[01:27:01] would love for
[01:27:02] us to listen
[01:27:03] to again because
[01:27:04] you asked us like
[01:27:05] to predict what
[01:27:06] would happen in
[01:27:06] the rest of the
[01:27:07] book like in
[01:27:08] the series
[01:27:09] yep I remember
[01:27:10] that and I
[01:27:10] remember talking
[01:27:11] going on and
[01:27:12] on about
[01:27:12] Dumbledore and
[01:27:13] what I thought
[01:27:13] was gonna happen
[01:27:14] but I don't
[01:27:15] remember it
[01:27:16] but I was like
[01:27:16] oh how
[01:27:17] what things
[01:27:18] were I close
[01:27:19] to and what
[01:27:20] things were we
[01:27:20] so far off
[01:27:21] and I just
[01:27:23] thought of the
[01:27:23] moment of
[01:27:23] predicting that
[01:27:24] either Fred or
[01:27:25] George would die
[01:27:26] because that also
[01:27:27] was a moment of
[01:27:28] clarity for me
[01:27:28] when I think I
[01:27:29] was saying
[01:27:30] something and I
[01:27:30] was like oh my
[01:27:31] goodness they're
[01:27:32] not both gonna
[01:27:32] survive yeah
[01:27:33] because they're
[01:27:34] twins so it'd be
[01:27:35] so easy to kill
[01:27:36] one of them but
[01:27:37] I don't know if
[01:27:38] there were any
[01:27:38] other really how I
[01:27:39] thought he was
[01:27:40] always good and I
[01:27:41] wasn't so convinced
[01:27:43] yeah yeah some
[01:27:44] people still aren't
[01:27:48] well the ultimate
[01:27:50] questions is Snape
[01:27:51] good
[01:27:52] it is it is kind
[01:27:53] of fun too because
[01:27:54] it was yeah in my
[01:27:56] perspective just sitting
[01:27:57] back and listening to
[01:27:58] you guys do your
[01:27:58] predictions it was so
[01:27:59] fun because there
[01:28:01] were times where you
[01:28:02] guys just nailed it
[01:28:03] and me and Christian
[01:28:05] just had to keep our
[01:28:05] mouth shut or we
[01:28:06] just give each other
[01:28:07] a look or like
[01:28:08] something we were
[01:28:08] like sweating over
[01:28:10] here and the
[01:28:11] Goblet of Fire one
[01:28:12] was particularly fun
[01:28:13] I think that was one
[01:28:13] of the best moments
[01:28:14] in the podcast
[01:28:15] because we were
[01:28:16] still at a pace
[01:28:17] where we were going
[01:28:17] faster through the
[01:28:18] series and like you
[01:28:19] guys like you just
[01:28:20] Jen just got it
[01:28:21] like one of my
[01:28:22] favorites was in
[01:28:23] the third one too
[01:28:24] where Danny just
[01:28:24] sent me a bunch of
[01:28:25] voice notes of like
[01:28:25] how much he got in
[01:28:27] that series and
[01:28:28] that was great but
[01:28:29] then when you guys
[01:28:29] piece everything
[01:28:30] together in the
[01:28:30] fourth book because
[01:28:31] really you shouldn't
[01:28:32] be able to piece
[01:28:32] things together and
[01:28:33] then when you got
[01:28:34] that I remember
[01:28:35] sitting here like
[01:28:36] sweating and then
[01:28:38] everyone's like
[01:28:38] mentioning it in the
[01:28:39] in the pot in the
[01:28:41] chat too I just
[01:28:42] became good at
[01:28:42] gaslighting where I
[01:28:43] was like I don't
[01:28:44] know if that's
[01:28:44] really gonna happen
[01:28:45] I don't think so
[01:28:45] I felt so bad
[01:28:48] but toward the end
[01:28:50] toward the end of
[01:28:51] the podcast when you
[01:28:52] guys started nailing
[01:28:52] like horcrux
[01:28:53] predictions or like
[01:28:54] what is what in
[01:28:55] the series too that
[01:28:56] was so fun for me
[01:28:58] because it really
[01:29:01] made me feel like a
[01:29:01] first-time reader
[01:29:02] again it made me
[01:29:03] feel like the places
[01:29:04] you guys are at in
[01:29:05] the book like I
[01:29:05] would continuously
[01:29:06] go over like okay
[01:29:07] you know what is
[01:29:08] what are the
[01:29:09] horcruxes where
[01:29:10] are they and you
[01:29:10] guys have come up
[01:29:11] with locations like
[01:29:12] you even even even
[01:29:14] the idea of of
[01:29:15] horcruxes when you
[01:29:16] guys predicted that
[01:29:17] you predicted that
[01:29:18] earlier on before
[01:29:19] horcruxes were
[01:29:19] even mentioned and
[01:29:21] I'm like you guys
[01:29:23] just had so many
[01:29:24] good moments in
[01:29:25] this of good
[01:29:25] predictions that
[01:29:26] you guys don't
[01:29:27] even realize that
[01:29:28] when we go over
[01:29:29] some of the
[01:29:29] predictions and
[01:29:30] when we look at
[01:29:30] some of that
[01:29:31] stuff I think
[01:29:31] you guys are
[01:29:31] gonna be pretty
[01:29:32] blown away by
[01:29:32] some of the
[01:29:33] stuff that you
[01:29:33] actually look
[01:29:34] through in the
[01:29:35] series and I
[01:29:36] think we were
[01:29:37] helped a little
[01:29:37] bit by your
[01:29:39] questions where you
[01:29:41] would ask us things
[01:29:43] that I don't know
[01:29:44] if you put
[01:29:44] anything in our
[01:29:45] minds but you
[01:29:46] at least you did
[01:29:48] such a good job
[01:29:49] early on because
[01:29:49] I've listened to
[01:29:50] some of the
[01:29:50] episodes where
[01:29:51] you ask questions
[01:29:52] that then we
[01:29:54] realize are hinting
[01:29:55] at things which is
[01:29:56] so great but I
[01:29:58] feel like then you
[01:29:59] could plant some
[01:30:00] seeds that maybe
[01:30:01] bloomed and
[01:30:02] blossomed into
[01:30:03] things so if we
[01:30:05] got any guesses
[01:30:06] about some of the
[01:30:07] absurd stuff we
[01:30:09] maybe can't take
[01:30:10] all the credit
[01:30:10] but it was so
[01:30:12] good
[01:30:12] that man and
[01:30:13] moody one though
[01:30:14] he didn't give us
[01:30:15] any tips on that
[01:30:16] I didn't
[01:30:16] yeah and what did
[01:30:17] we think about
[01:30:18] that we thought it
[01:30:18] was Barty Crouch
[01:30:19] senior
[01:30:20] yeah
[01:30:22] now I'm curious
[01:30:23] just to like check
[01:30:25] us a little bit
[01:30:25] it's not like we
[01:30:26] nailed it
[01:30:27] you know but
[01:30:27] like pretty close
[01:30:28] because our big
[01:30:29] thing was the map
[01:30:31] and so Harry's
[01:30:32] looking at the
[01:30:33] Marauders map and
[01:30:33] we're like it's on
[01:30:34] the map it has to
[01:30:35] be him but then
[01:30:36] now I'm curious
[01:30:37] looking back like
[01:30:38] how we were
[01:30:39] exactly thinking
[01:30:40] it wasn't Mad
[01:30:40] Eye Moody
[01:30:41] like how
[01:30:42] right we knew
[01:30:42] that it wasn't
[01:30:43] him and we
[01:30:45] didn't even remember
[01:30:46] that he was
[01:30:46] swigging out of
[01:30:47] his flask did we
[01:30:48] because that
[01:30:49] would have helped
[01:30:49] seal the deal
[01:30:50] I know that
[01:30:50] would have
[01:30:50] sealed the deal
[01:30:51] but then I think
[01:30:52] when that came up
[01:30:52] we're like oh
[01:30:53] yeah of course
[01:30:53] yeah he was I
[01:30:55] remember that but
[01:30:55] I wouldn't have
[01:30:56] put it together
[01:30:56] right
[01:30:57] um
[01:30:58] so good though
[01:30:59] yeah that was
[01:31:00] so good
[01:31:01] yeah
[01:31:01] yeah
[01:31:02] and then watching
[01:31:03] the movie felt so
[01:31:04] different because
[01:31:05] we're like
[01:31:05] watching the
[01:31:06] from the beginning
[01:31:07] I know
[01:31:08] I'm like that
[01:31:09] was dumb
[01:31:09] it's so much
[01:31:10] more fun but I
[01:31:11] guess they can't
[01:31:12] expand on it
[01:31:13] yeah
[01:31:13] and those are
[01:31:14] going to be some
[01:31:15] of the interesting
[01:31:15] choices in the
[01:31:16] show too
[01:31:17] stupid little tongue
[01:31:18] thing
[01:31:18] oh my gosh
[01:31:19] drives me absolutely
[01:31:21] crazy
[01:31:30] one of the most
[01:31:31] fun parts for me
[01:31:31] where I actually
[01:31:32] had to like you
[01:31:33] know put things
[01:31:34] into the into
[01:31:34] the podcast that
[01:31:35] fans who have
[01:31:36] read this would
[01:31:37] know but uh
[01:31:39] I did that so
[01:31:40] many times and
[01:31:41] that was like my
[01:31:41] favorite part of
[01:31:42] the podcast
[01:31:42] yeah
[01:31:44] when I asked you
[01:31:45] guys a question
[01:31:45] I mean like the
[01:31:46] most obvious one
[01:31:46] was like there's a
[01:31:47] there's a you
[01:31:48] know a word that
[01:31:49] harry potter fans
[01:31:49] always always always
[01:31:51] always
[01:31:51] yeah that was
[01:31:52] I like spelled
[01:31:53] it out for you
[01:31:53] guys
[01:31:54] oh yeah
[01:31:54] a few times
[01:31:55] sitting here
[01:31:58] I did that
[01:31:59] with a few
[01:31:59] different questions
[01:32:00] but I think I
[01:32:01] got you back
[01:32:01] because I said
[01:32:02] oh it has to be
[01:32:03] always
[01:32:03] that's for
[01:32:04] everything
[01:32:05] when we were
[01:32:06] wedding playing
[01:32:07] yeah
[01:32:07] like
[01:32:08] I know
[01:32:09] they spoiled it
[01:32:09] but then he
[01:32:10] said no
[01:32:10] he said no
[01:32:11] no
[01:32:11] gaslighting
[01:32:12] yeah you have
[01:32:13] to gaslight
[01:32:13] it's the only
[01:32:14] option
[01:32:15] so mean
[01:32:16] it's not fair
[01:32:18] you're supposed
[01:32:18] to be on my
[01:32:19] side
[01:32:22] but all right
[01:32:22] let's wrap it
[01:32:23] up let's go
[01:32:23] over
[01:32:25] the final
[01:32:26] of the entire
[01:32:27] series
[01:32:27] what is your
[01:32:29] who is your
[01:32:29] hot tamale
[01:32:30] of the whole
[01:32:30] series
[01:32:30] who is your
[01:32:33] favorite character
[01:32:35] and what is your
[01:32:36] favorite moment
[01:32:36] in the whole
[01:32:37] series
[01:32:44] I'm just gonna
[01:32:45] stick with
[01:32:46] Ginny as my
[01:32:46] hot tamale
[01:32:47] yeah she's a
[01:32:47] good hot tamale
[01:32:48] that's a good
[01:32:48] one
[01:32:51] favorite character
[01:32:53] and scene
[01:32:54] scenes are so
[01:32:55] hard
[01:32:58] there's a lot
[01:32:59] yeah there's a
[01:33:00] lot in there
[01:33:00] some of them
[01:33:01] are really
[01:33:01] far away
[01:33:02] I know
[01:33:04] what rises
[01:33:05] to the surface
[01:33:06] anything in
[01:33:07] particular
[01:33:08] it probably
[01:33:09] would just be
[01:33:10] like those
[01:33:10] ones like
[01:33:11] those aha
[01:33:12] ones where
[01:33:12] you start
[01:33:13] like figuring
[01:33:14] out like we
[01:33:14] were talking
[01:33:15] about the
[01:33:15] mad-eye
[01:33:16] moody or
[01:33:16] like when
[01:33:18] we find about
[01:33:19] snape
[01:33:19] maybe like I
[01:33:21] like I like
[01:33:22] the discovery
[01:33:22] one so
[01:33:23] that was one
[01:33:25] of those were
[01:33:25] my favorite
[01:33:26] those were the
[01:33:26] ones I was
[01:33:27] rushing to
[01:33:28] get to
[01:33:29] um
[01:33:31] and favorite
[01:33:33] character
[01:33:35] oh that
[01:33:37] one's hard
[01:33:37] I can't pick
[01:33:38] one
[01:33:41] I like
[01:33:43] Hermione a
[01:33:44] lot
[01:33:44] yeah
[01:33:45] she's like
[01:33:47] relatable
[01:33:47] and I
[01:33:49] can see
[01:33:50] myself in
[01:33:50] her sometimes
[01:33:51] yeah
[01:33:52] so maybe
[01:33:54] her
[01:33:54] since she's
[01:33:55] the whole
[01:33:56] way through
[01:33:57] the book
[01:33:58] well I'll
[01:33:59] say hot
[01:34:00] to Molly
[01:34:01] I'll give
[01:34:01] it to
[01:34:02] Ron
[01:34:04] um
[01:34:04] it's a
[01:34:05] great one
[01:34:06] yeah I
[01:34:06] love it
[01:34:06] I just feel
[01:34:07] like overall
[01:34:09] he added
[01:34:10] such levity
[01:34:11] to moments
[01:34:13] um and
[01:34:14] he was such
[01:34:15] a good like
[01:34:15] encourager
[01:34:16] and he kept
[01:34:17] things
[01:34:19] light
[01:34:19] and fun
[01:34:22] and I
[01:34:23] don't think
[01:34:24] Harry could
[01:34:24] have done
[01:34:24] this without
[01:34:25] him
[01:34:25] same is
[01:34:26] true for
[01:34:26] Hermione
[01:34:26] to be fair
[01:34:27] and I
[01:34:27] think in
[01:34:28] she had a
[01:34:28] lot more
[01:34:29] tangible
[01:34:29] um
[01:34:30] contributions
[01:34:31] but
[01:34:34] yeah so
[01:34:35] recently maybe
[01:34:35] that's how I
[01:34:36] viewed Ron
[01:34:36] so hot
[01:34:37] tamale for
[01:34:38] sure
[01:34:38] and I'm
[01:34:39] saying that
[01:34:39] partially so
[01:34:40] I can give
[01:34:40] the house
[01:34:41] cup favorite
[01:34:42] character to
[01:34:43] Harry
[01:34:44] yeah
[01:34:44] because I
[01:34:46] feel like by
[01:34:46] the end of
[01:34:47] it he just
[01:34:47] deserved it
[01:34:48] you know
[01:34:48] and it's like
[01:34:49] it's a little
[01:34:50] cheating you
[01:34:50] know it's
[01:34:51] it's his
[01:34:52] story but
[01:34:54] I do feel
[01:34:55] like
[01:34:56] I like forget
[01:34:57] about him
[01:34:57] well I know
[01:34:58] and even in the
[01:34:59] way we talk
[01:34:59] about a lot
[01:35:00] of things
[01:35:00] it's just the
[01:35:00] most obvious
[01:35:01] yeah it's like
[01:35:02] a little too
[01:35:03] obvious but
[01:35:03] it it does
[01:35:05] feel like
[01:35:06] it wouldn't be
[01:35:07] fair to the
[01:35:08] way I actually
[01:35:08] view the story
[01:35:09] if I gave it
[01:35:11] to anybody
[01:35:11] else because
[01:35:13] maybe it's
[01:35:14] so obvious
[01:35:15] to people
[01:35:15] that they
[01:35:16] don't talk
[01:35:16] about Harry
[01:35:17] anymore so
[01:35:18] he feels like
[01:35:18] the forgotten
[01:35:19] character even
[01:35:20] though he's
[01:35:20] the main
[01:35:20] character
[01:35:23] so at the
[01:35:24] moment he
[01:35:24] is not the
[01:35:25] forgotten
[01:35:25] character for
[01:35:26] me he
[01:35:27] he'll get
[01:35:28] my house
[01:35:29] cup because
[01:35:30] I just feel
[01:35:31] like through
[01:35:31] and through
[01:35:32] we saw his
[01:35:32] arc and it
[01:35:33] was great
[01:35:34] and it was
[01:35:34] satisfying
[01:35:35] so and
[01:35:38] I related to
[01:35:39] him in some
[01:35:39] ways too
[01:35:39] it felt like
[01:35:41] in his
[01:35:42] flaws
[01:35:43] they were
[01:35:44] reasonable
[01:35:44] it was like
[01:35:46] you see the
[01:35:47] growth you
[01:35:48] can root for
[01:35:48] him but
[01:35:49] you see a
[01:35:49] good heart
[01:35:51] so Harry
[01:35:53] harder to
[01:35:54] choose the
[01:35:54] best moment
[01:35:55] though
[01:35:55] yeah it's
[01:35:56] one of the
[01:35:56] toughest
[01:35:56] so tough
[01:35:57] or like even
[01:35:58] just favorite
[01:35:59] chapter was
[01:36:00] there like a
[01:36:00] chapter that
[01:36:00] stuck out to
[01:36:01] you guys most
[01:36:02] yeah because I
[01:36:03] remember every
[01:36:04] chapter from
[01:36:04] us
[01:36:06] we should we
[01:36:07] went three at
[01:36:08] a time
[01:36:09] I mean I
[01:36:10] still remember
[01:36:11] yeah we
[01:36:11] still remember
[01:36:12] my first read
[01:36:13] of reading
[01:36:14] through I
[01:36:15] mean I was
[01:36:16] in high school
[01:36:16] so it was a
[01:36:16] different reading
[01:36:17] experience but
[01:36:17] reading through
[01:36:18] the cave I
[01:36:18] still think is
[01:36:19] my favorite
[01:36:19] chapter of
[01:36:20] the whole
[01:36:20] series because
[01:36:21] of how dark
[01:36:24] and action
[01:36:25] packed and
[01:36:25] like intense
[01:36:27] it was I
[01:36:27] still remember
[01:36:28] like not being
[01:36:30] able to read
[01:36:30] fast enough but
[01:36:31] not being able
[01:36:31] to read slow
[01:36:32] enough like I
[01:36:32] it was like
[01:36:33] agony I
[01:36:34] could I had to
[01:36:34] read like
[01:36:34] paragraphs over
[01:36:35] again because I
[01:36:36] wanted to get
[01:36:36] to the next
[01:36:36] one but I
[01:36:37] couldn't yeah
[01:36:38] I had to reread
[01:36:39] that last one
[01:36:40] because I didn't
[01:36:40] know where I
[01:36:40] was going and
[01:36:41] I was like it
[01:36:41] was so
[01:36:42] discombobulating but
[01:36:43] I remember that
[01:36:43] chapter so much
[01:36:44] because it was
[01:36:45] like culminating
[01:36:45] at this moment
[01:36:46] trying to figure
[01:36:47] out what they
[01:36:48] were what they
[01:36:48] were doing
[01:36:48] where they
[01:36:49] were going
[01:36:51] and I still
[01:36:52] remember that
[01:36:53] chapter so
[01:36:53] clearly on my
[01:36:54] first read but
[01:36:55] that was I mean I
[01:36:56] was in high school
[01:36:57] maybe it's a bit
[01:36:57] more like memorable
[01:36:58] when you're going
[01:36:59] through it especially
[01:37:00] because like people
[01:37:01] are still talking
[01:37:02] about the series
[01:37:02] then that was
[01:37:04] when the books
[01:37:04] had just come out
[01:37:05] so it was
[01:37:06] probably a little
[01:37:06] bit different
[01:37:07] from reading it
[01:37:07] in like with the
[01:37:09] waves that we
[01:37:09] read it in which
[01:37:11] maybe it's a little
[01:37:12] less memorable for
[01:37:13] certain chapters and
[01:37:14] or moments or
[01:37:15] did you I think
[01:37:16] it's just the way
[01:37:16] I read things
[01:37:17] yeah yeah
[01:37:18] also for sure
[01:37:19] I just remember it
[01:37:20] in like a lump sum
[01:37:20] yeah
[01:37:21] did you have other
[01:37:24] friends that were
[01:37:25] reading at the same
[01:37:25] time for the like
[01:37:27] as they were coming
[01:37:27] out um and
[01:37:29] then like was it
[01:37:29] a race weirdly I
[01:37:31] I remember
[01:37:33] it would be for
[01:37:34] me
[01:37:35] I don't remember
[01:37:37] a ton of other
[01:37:38] friends that I had
[01:37:39] at the moment
[01:37:40] reading it I
[01:37:40] remember people I
[01:37:42] played soccer with
[01:37:43] like I remember
[01:37:43] when I was in
[01:37:44] middle school and
[01:37:45] talking about it
[01:37:46] with your brother
[01:37:46] to some extent
[01:37:47] really yeah I
[01:37:49] was playing rec
[01:37:50] soccer and he and
[01:37:51] we were on opposing
[01:37:52] teams for rec soccer
[01:37:53] but we played in the
[01:37:53] same traveling team
[01:37:54] and I remember we
[01:37:55] were just sitting
[01:37:56] there talking about
[01:37:56] it and Dan one
[01:37:57] of our other like
[01:37:58] intermediate not this
[01:37:59] Dan another Dan
[01:38:01] came and was
[01:38:01] talking about the
[01:38:02] series and I
[01:38:03] hadn't read it at
[01:38:04] that point and I
[01:38:05] remember I finished
[01:38:06] it and then I
[01:38:07] think I talked to
[01:38:07] like Eddie and
[01:38:08] Peter at it at a
[01:38:09] practice about like
[01:38:10] you know where I
[01:38:10] was in the series
[01:38:12] or something like
[01:38:12] that I forgot
[01:38:13] exactly what it
[01:38:14] was but I still
[01:38:15] have like a weird
[01:38:15] memory of that
[01:38:17] um but when I
[01:38:18] when I read it
[01:38:19] it was very much
[01:38:19] like individual
[01:38:21] um and then I
[01:38:23] I would read
[01:38:24] things online and
[01:38:25] I would read
[01:38:25] theories of things
[01:38:26] that were going
[01:38:27] to happen in
[01:38:27] between the series
[01:38:28] so it was still
[01:38:29] like individual
[01:38:30] but you're part
[01:38:30] of this larger
[01:38:31] community
[01:38:31] yeah yeah
[01:38:32] so it was just
[01:38:33] such a fun
[01:38:34] experience
[01:38:34] I can't believe
[01:38:36] man
[01:38:36] yeah
[01:38:38] I think I'll
[01:38:39] say my
[01:38:41] favorite moment
[01:38:42] probably or
[01:38:44] scenes that stood
[01:38:45] out because we've
[01:38:46] covered some of
[01:38:47] those already a
[01:38:47] little bit like
[01:38:48] Diagon Alley was
[01:38:49] you know stood
[01:38:50] out in its own
[01:38:50] way the Triwizard
[01:38:52] tournament I feel
[01:38:53] like yeah is
[01:38:54] defining to the
[01:38:55] series for me
[01:38:56] um when I think
[01:38:59] of the series I
[01:39:00] do go back to
[01:39:01] that that's one
[01:39:02] of my first
[01:39:03] thoughts all of
[01:39:05] the events of
[01:39:05] the Triwizard
[01:39:06] tournament um
[01:39:07] specifically the
[01:39:08] one on the lake
[01:39:08] for some reason
[01:39:09] yeah that's true
[01:39:10] um so yeah
[01:39:11] Goblet of Fire
[01:39:12] very influential
[01:39:14] in the way I
[01:39:15] view the whole
[01:39:16] story I think
[01:39:17] it's the right
[01:39:18] middle ground of
[01:39:19] playful and warm
[01:39:22] mysterious and
[01:39:23] then starting to
[01:39:23] get dark as well
[01:39:24] yeah at the end
[01:39:25] so yeah it kind
[01:39:26] of sums it up in
[01:39:27] my mind
[01:39:29] that's great
[01:39:32] um I think I
[01:39:35] actually thought
[01:39:36] of things
[01:39:38] I think I want to
[01:39:39] give the hot
[01:39:40] tamale to
[01:39:40] mrs weasley
[01:39:41] oh yeah
[01:39:42] that's a great
[01:39:42] one
[01:39:43] that's a great
[01:39:44] one
[01:39:45] um
[01:39:46] especially at
[01:39:46] the end
[01:39:47] yeah
[01:39:47] yeah
[01:39:48] oh yeah
[01:39:48] loved that fire
[01:39:50] and you know
[01:39:51] her and mr
[01:39:52] weasley
[01:39:53] with her love
[01:39:54] potion
[01:39:54] yeah
[01:39:55] oh gosh
[01:39:56] that's funny
[01:39:56] and their nickname
[01:39:59] or something
[01:40:00] yeah
[01:40:00] Molly Wobbles
[01:40:01] yeah
[01:40:02] they were cute
[01:40:04] yeah
[01:40:05] so I'll give
[01:40:06] that to her
[01:40:06] and then I
[01:40:07] think I
[01:40:09] want to give
[01:40:11] the house cup
[01:40:13] to Dumbledore
[01:40:13] hmm
[01:40:15] whoa
[01:40:16] yeah
[01:40:17] um
[01:40:18] I just
[01:40:19] I love
[01:40:21] that he
[01:40:22] acknowledges
[01:40:22] he's flawed
[01:40:23] yeah
[01:40:24] he made
[01:40:25] mistakes
[01:40:25] he made
[01:40:26] mistakes
[01:40:26] when he was
[01:40:27] younger
[01:40:27] he tried
[01:40:28] to like
[01:40:30] account for
[01:40:31] them as
[01:40:31] he got
[01:40:31] older
[01:40:32] he made
[01:40:33] mistakes
[01:40:33] when he
[01:40:34] was older
[01:40:34] but he
[01:40:35] never claimed
[01:40:36] to be
[01:40:37] perfect
[01:40:38] you know
[01:40:39] people
[01:40:40] tended to
[01:40:40] view him
[01:40:41] that way
[01:40:41] but I
[01:40:43] just love
[01:40:43] the complexities
[01:40:43] behind
[01:40:45] him
[01:40:46] and I
[01:40:47] guess
[01:40:47] some of
[01:40:47] my favorite
[01:40:48] moments
[01:40:48] were
[01:40:48] his
[01:40:50] quotes
[01:40:50] at the
[01:40:51] end
[01:40:51] of the
[01:40:52] last
[01:40:52] book
[01:40:52] just like
[01:40:53] the wisdom
[01:40:55] I can't
[01:40:56] remember
[01:40:56] specifics
[01:40:57] but I
[01:40:57] just remember
[01:40:58] really really
[01:40:58] liking that
[01:40:59] like the
[01:41:00] conversations
[01:41:01] yeah
[01:41:01] in King's
[01:41:02] Cross
[01:41:02] and stuff
[01:41:03] like that
[01:41:03] yeah
[01:41:03] so good
[01:41:05] yeah
[01:41:05] so I'd go
[01:41:06] with that
[01:41:07] yeah
[01:41:08] it's great
[01:41:09] I was like
[01:41:10] when's he in
[01:41:10] King's Cross
[01:41:12] yeah so true
[01:41:15] um
[01:41:16] I'm not gonna
[01:41:17] pick my typical
[01:41:17] favorite characters
[01:41:18] for all this
[01:41:19] kind of stuff
[01:41:19] were hot tamales
[01:41:20] I'm gonna give
[01:41:21] a hot tamale
[01:41:23] this time
[01:41:24] to
[01:41:26] um
[01:41:30] Regulus
[01:41:32] it was fun
[01:41:33] reading it this
[01:41:33] time and being
[01:41:34] like like
[01:41:34] thinking of
[01:41:35] just what
[01:41:37] that I would
[01:41:37] again
[01:41:38] like a series
[01:41:40] on him
[01:41:41] would be
[01:41:41] so good
[01:41:42] so fascinating
[01:41:43] and he's like
[01:41:45] an underwritten
[01:41:45] character
[01:41:45] but it's great
[01:41:46] such
[01:41:47] such a fascinating
[01:41:49] backstory
[01:41:49] just to see
[01:41:50] like how he
[01:41:50] left
[01:41:51] I think he has
[01:41:52] a lot of hot
[01:41:52] tamale energy
[01:41:53] I would love
[01:41:54] a series on him
[01:41:55] I think he'd
[01:41:56] be a great
[01:41:56] like anti-villain
[01:41:58] like like someone
[01:41:59] who goes back
[01:42:00] and forth
[01:42:01] and like finally
[01:42:02] decides
[01:42:02] makes a good
[01:42:03] like a decision
[01:42:04] for the good
[01:42:05] I think that'd
[01:42:06] be such a good
[01:42:06] one
[01:42:07] so he's
[01:42:07] he's kind of
[01:42:08] my hot tamale
[01:42:08] yeah
[01:42:09] um
[01:42:10] my favorite
[01:42:11] character in
[01:42:12] this read
[01:42:14] um
[01:42:16] which was
[01:42:16] how many
[01:42:17] reads
[01:42:18] it's like
[01:42:18] you know
[01:42:19] yeah I don't
[01:42:20] know I lost
[01:42:21] count
[01:42:21] 15 16
[01:42:22] oh really
[01:42:24] like up there
[01:42:25] yeah it's
[01:42:26] a while
[01:42:27] because I
[01:42:27] would always
[01:42:28] just have this
[01:42:29] on listening
[01:42:29] to it somewhere
[01:42:30] so I've like
[01:42:30] lost track
[01:42:31] of how many
[01:42:31] times I've
[01:42:31] actually done
[01:42:32] it but I've
[01:42:33] probably read
[01:42:34] it through
[01:42:36] six or seven
[01:42:36] times and probably
[01:42:37] listened to it
[01:42:37] through like ten
[01:42:38] times
[01:42:39] wow
[01:42:40] yeah
[01:42:40] it's a lot
[01:42:41] he never
[01:42:42] stops
[01:42:42] basically
[01:42:43] yeah
[01:42:44] pretty much
[01:42:45] just continual
[01:42:48] um
[01:42:49] favorite character
[01:42:50] this series
[01:42:51] in read
[01:42:52] through
[01:42:52] was probably
[01:42:55] ron
[01:42:56] I think I have
[01:42:56] to give it
[01:42:57] to ron
[01:42:57] in this one
[01:42:57] um
[01:42:58] I just love
[01:42:59] his loyalty
[01:43:00] he's
[01:43:02] he's uh
[01:43:03] been one of
[01:43:03] those characters
[01:43:04] who's like
[01:43:04] slowly risen up
[01:43:05] in the rankings
[01:43:06] for the last
[01:43:07] few years
[01:43:08] and I
[01:43:08] initially loved
[01:43:09] him but I
[01:43:10] didn't you know
[01:43:10] he wasn't like
[01:43:10] he's like too
[01:43:11] typical of a
[01:43:12] favorite character
[01:43:13] um but this
[01:43:14] time I read
[01:43:15] him and I
[01:43:15] think he's
[01:43:16] like so
[01:43:16] integral to
[01:43:17] the trio
[01:43:18] um just
[01:43:19] yeah again
[01:43:20] even what you
[01:43:20] said Danny
[01:43:21] bringing levity
[01:43:21] to certain
[01:43:22] situations
[01:43:22] and like
[01:43:23] really like
[01:43:23] letting the
[01:43:24] trio go on
[01:43:24] in the fourth
[01:43:25] or in the
[01:43:25] seventh book
[01:43:26] just really
[01:43:26] like pushing
[01:43:27] him on
[01:43:27] he abandons
[01:43:28] them but then
[01:43:29] comes back
[01:43:29] and like is
[01:43:29] very gung-ho
[01:43:30] about things
[01:43:31] um
[01:43:32] reading him
[01:43:33] this time was
[01:43:34] just really fun
[01:43:35] like seeing
[01:43:35] how he works
[01:43:36] is all like
[01:43:37] his yeah
[01:43:38] his inner
[01:43:38] workings
[01:43:38] was really
[01:43:39] great
[01:43:40] and then
[01:43:41] favorite moment
[01:43:42] in this series
[01:43:42] and this is
[01:43:43] like a very
[01:43:43] typical one
[01:43:44] that people
[01:43:44] give but
[01:43:45] the mirror
[01:43:46] of Arasad
[01:43:46] chapter just
[01:43:47] struck me
[01:43:47] so much
[01:43:48] like when I
[01:43:49] was reading
[01:43:49] that for
[01:43:50] this time
[01:43:50] I did like
[01:43:51] even well up
[01:43:52] a little bit
[01:43:53] like I teared
[01:43:53] up at that
[01:43:54] chapter because
[01:43:54] I think it's
[01:43:55] really one of
[01:43:56] her best
[01:43:56] written chapters
[01:43:57] ever um
[01:43:58] just of what
[01:43:59] Harry desire
[01:44:00] like it's the
[01:44:00] first time he
[01:44:01] sees his parents
[01:44:01] the first time
[01:44:02] he really can
[01:44:03] recognize what
[01:44:03] his desires are
[01:44:04] and how much
[01:44:05] he desires his
[01:44:05] parents and
[01:44:06] then how that
[01:44:07] curtails with the
[01:44:08] end of the book
[01:44:08] where he just
[01:44:09] he sees his
[01:44:10] parents grave
[01:44:11] and he just
[01:44:12] wants to like go
[01:44:13] down and be with
[01:44:13] them and then
[01:44:14] the very very end
[01:44:16] of the book where
[01:44:16] he like actually
[01:44:17] sees them again
[01:44:17] and is like on
[01:44:19] the verge of
[01:44:19] death and is
[01:44:20] accepting of it
[01:44:21] because he is
[01:44:21] going to see
[01:44:22] them and he's
[01:44:22] going to spend
[01:44:23] time with them
[01:44:23] I'm like how
[01:44:25] the mirror of
[01:44:26] Arasad just like
[01:44:26] has echoes in
[01:44:27] the rest of the
[01:44:28] series is just
[01:44:30] perfect writing I
[01:44:31] think it's so
[01:44:32] exceptional I
[01:44:33] think it's so
[01:44:33] good so those
[01:44:36] are mine for
[01:44:37] this read
[01:44:39] Dumbledore had
[01:44:40] the sock right
[01:44:41] and the mirror
[01:44:42] of Arasad
[01:44:43] yeah
[01:44:45] yeah I
[01:44:46] thought he
[01:44:47] would get that
[01:44:47] I know right
[01:44:48] I know
[01:44:49] one of many
[01:44:53] yeah that is
[01:44:54] my prevailing
[01:44:55] theory I think
[01:44:56] it's a great
[01:44:56] one I think
[01:44:56] it's a good
[01:44:57] theory that's a
[01:44:58] fun thing too
[01:44:58] we can come up
[01:44:59] with like different
[01:44:59] side cannons and
[01:45:00] side theories about
[01:45:01] certain things
[01:45:02] that's where it's
[01:45:02] fun but yeah
[01:45:08] well thanks for
[01:45:09] joining us on
[01:45:10] this journey of
[01:45:10] Harry Potter and
[01:45:11] the first time
[01:45:12] readers until
[01:45:14] next time
[01:45:20] should we pop
[01:45:37] champagne right
[01:45:38] now pop a little
[01:45:39] champagne let's
[01:45:40] celebrate
[01:45:41] a little
[01:45:42] celebration yeah
[01:45:43] you can get some
[01:45:44] cups or mugs in
[01:45:44] my drawer too
[01:45:46] whatever was it
[01:45:47] under the couch
[01:45:49] you're storing
[01:45:50] the champagne
[01:45:51] under the couch
[01:45:52] no no
[01:45:56] that must have
[01:45:57] been so fun for
[01:45:58] John though
[01:45:58] like oh my
[01:45:59] gosh guys I can't
[01:46:00] he's typing in the
[01:46:01] chat like discussing
[01:46:02] what we're talking
[01:46:03] about I don't know
[01:46:04] how you did that
[01:46:05] I was so nerdy
[01:46:06] it was peak
[01:46:07] enjoyment for me
[01:46:09] so just I even
[01:46:11] just want to thank
[01:46:11] you guys for that
[01:46:12] too that was like
[01:46:13] yeah you guys
[01:46:15] sacrificing your
[01:46:16] read and just
[01:46:17] like even enduring
[01:46:18] this on some
[01:46:18] nights where
[01:46:19] like you know
[01:46:19] podcasting can be
[01:46:20] annoying you have
[01:46:22] to come from work
[01:46:22] and you know it's
[01:46:23] not the easiest
[01:46:23] thing in the world
[01:46:24] but just sitting
[01:46:26] here and like
[01:46:27] talking about these
[01:46:28] books with you that
[01:46:28] I love and you
[01:46:31] know like I I'm
[01:46:32] like a Harry Potter
[01:46:32] nerd I love it but
[01:46:33] I always just had
[01:46:34] the series on just
[01:46:35] just because I
[01:46:36] enjoyed it and it
[01:46:37] was fun and then I
[01:46:38] started like really
[01:46:39] reading it more and
[01:46:40] more and I started
[01:46:41] getting more into it
[01:46:43] and I always wanted
[01:46:44] to you know have
[01:46:45] like first time
[01:46:46] experience with it
[01:46:47] again and then
[01:46:47] Jen was like hey
[01:46:49] I'm reading over the
[01:46:50] first time I'm like
[01:46:52] as soon as you texted
[01:46:53] that I was like okay
[01:46:54] well we're starting
[01:46:55] this podcast I was
[01:46:56] like how do I how
[01:46:57] do I get this going
[01:46:58] in a way that they
[01:46:58] don't even know we're
[01:46:59] starting it you know
[01:47:00] like how do I how
[01:47:01] do I do this
[01:47:01] you did a great job
[01:47:02] so it was
[01:47:03] you're welcome
[01:47:04] yeah yeah thank
[01:47:05] you so much
[01:47:06] thanks for the
[01:47:07] reading plan
[01:47:07] he always was like
[01:47:09] dangling this carrot
[01:47:10] in front of me though
[01:47:11] like about Harry Potter
[01:47:12] it would come up in
[01:47:13] conversations and
[01:47:15] stuff and I'm like
[01:47:16] yeah okay like don't
[01:47:17] give it away one day
[01:47:18] I'm gonna read it
[01:47:20] I literally would
[01:47:21] cover my ears when
[01:47:22] you guys yeah talking
[01:47:23] to other people
[01:47:24] so one day I knew
[01:47:25] I was going to
[01:47:26] there you go
[01:47:27] I'm glad that it
[01:47:28] just took me to
[01:47:29] convince you
[01:47:29] yeah exactly
[01:47:31] someone that was
[01:47:32] like very matter of
[01:47:33] fact
[01:47:33] yeah yeah
[01:47:34] you didn't need
[01:47:35] theoretical stuff
[01:47:36] you needed someone
[01:47:37] to be like okay
[01:47:37] you're reading it
[01:47:38] this day
[01:47:38] let's start
[01:47:39] yeah I need
[01:47:39] discipline
[01:47:39] boom
[01:47:42] let's walk
[01:47:43] through it together
[01:47:44] I still remember
[01:47:45] the whole conversation
[01:47:46] that's what's so
[01:47:47] funny
[01:47:47] I can replay it
[01:47:49] in my mind
[01:47:50] that's so funny
[01:47:51] yep
[01:47:52] but it is it is
[01:47:53] so funny too
[01:47:54] because everyone
[01:47:55] that is in our
[01:47:55] little like little
[01:47:56] community wants
[01:47:57] that same thing
[01:47:57] they want what you
[01:47:59] guys had to be able
[01:48:00] to read it for the
[01:48:01] first time
[01:48:01] so I cannot even
[01:48:04] express how much
[01:48:05] people this meant
[01:48:06] to other people
[01:48:06] too like for the
[01:48:07] nerds in the
[01:48:08] Harry Potter world
[01:48:09] for you guys to
[01:48:10] read it for the
[01:48:10] first time and
[01:48:11] like even sacrifice
[01:48:12] because you would
[01:48:13] have if you read
[01:48:14] this you would have
[01:48:14] read it quicker
[01:48:15] than seven months
[01:48:16] it would have been
[01:48:17] like you know
[01:48:18] three four months
[01:48:19] you probably would
[01:48:19] have finished the
[01:48:19] series
[01:48:20] you would stop us
[01:48:21] at the worst times
[01:48:22] it would stop
[01:48:23] annoying
[01:48:24] but that did help
[01:48:25] us appreciate
[01:48:26] a lot of things
[01:48:28] now maybe we
[01:48:29] went yeah
[01:48:29] agreed
[01:48:29] I do agree
[01:48:31] but it just meant
[01:48:32] that we really
[01:48:33] got to soak it in
[01:48:33] yeah for sure
[01:48:34] rather than
[01:48:35] Netflix binging
[01:48:36] whatever
[01:48:36] it was back
[01:48:38] to the good old
[01:48:38] days where you
[01:48:39] have to wait a week
[01:48:40] for the next episode
[01:48:40] or something
[01:48:41] you know
[01:48:41] this is more
[01:48:42] serial
[01:48:42] it really was
[01:48:43] like that
[01:48:43] what was that
[01:48:44] life
[01:48:44] we were like
[01:48:45] so eager
[01:48:46] to read more
[01:48:48] it was great
[01:48:48] we would leave
[01:48:49] here and we
[01:48:50] would read
[01:48:50] when we got
[01:48:51] home
[01:48:51] because we're
[01:48:52] like yes
[01:48:52] we can read
[01:48:53] the next
[01:48:53] finally
[01:48:53] we can read
[01:48:54] the next
[01:48:54] year
[01:48:54] I would turn
[01:48:55] on my audio
[01:48:56] book like
[01:48:56] leaving the
[01:48:57] parking
[01:48:57] I love that
[01:48:58] oh that makes
[01:48:59] me so happy
[01:49:00] funny
[01:49:01] yeah
[01:49:01] it's a good
[01:49:02] series
[01:49:02] it was good
[01:49:03] I know how
[01:49:04] it ends
[01:49:04] but this is not
[01:49:05] goodbye
[01:49:06] this is see you
[01:49:07] later
[01:49:07] yeah this is
[01:49:07] see you later
[01:49:08] not goodbye
[01:49:09] closing a chapter
[01:49:10] yeah
[01:49:10] when the series
[01:49:11] comes out
[01:49:12] forget about it
[01:49:12] I know
[01:49:13] of course
[01:49:13] we're coming
[01:49:14] full circle
[01:49:15] we're coming back
[01:49:17] and that'll be
[01:49:18] easy just watch
[01:49:18] something
[01:49:19] I know
[01:49:19] yeah
[01:49:20] I mean we just
[01:49:21] want international
[01:49:22] just to go to
[01:49:23] filming locations
[01:49:24] it's gonna be
[01:49:25] great
[01:49:25] I know
[01:49:26] audio books
[01:49:27] have become
[01:49:27] my thing
[01:49:27] too
[01:49:28] yeah
[01:49:28] there's so
[01:49:29] many good
[01:49:29] readers
[01:49:30] I'm excited
[01:49:30] so we have
[01:49:31] lots of other
[01:49:31] stuff planned
[01:49:33] thanks for
[01:49:33] everyone for
[01:49:34] watching
[01:49:35] thanks
[01:49:36] we'll jump
[01:49:37] back on
[01:49:39] we'll jump
[01:49:39] back on
[01:49:40] soon
[01:49:41] have a good
[01:49:41] night everyone
[01:49:42] or good
[01:49:42] morning or
[01:49:43] good evening
[01:49:43] wherever you
[01:49:44] at
[01:49:45] good morning
[01:49:45] good evening
[01:49:46] and night

