[00:00:00] So what are your, I mean it's been a while since we've seen it, but what are your general impressions on the movie we just watched?
[00:00:07] Oh, I did like it. I felt like it was closest to the books, minus the things that they left out in previous ones, like you were saying. I thought it was the most accurate, which was good.
[00:00:23] Yeah, I feel like the acting was good, the production value real high, and I felt like it was slower than I expected, which was refreshing because I thought it was going to be, I don't know, like a little more of a whirlwind.
[00:00:41] So I love that they split the book up into the two movies. I could feel that pacing, all of the camping and wandering around, like you actually had time to feel that slowness.
[00:00:53] I was thinking of other movies that do similar things, Sam and Frodo wandering around in the second movie and stuff. It's like, it just felt like it was, you were in there amongst it, and the drama.
[00:01:10] Yeah, because that is kind of a complaint that people give of the reading of the second book or of the last book. They say the, not necessarily the pacing's bad, but people get sick of the camping chapters.
[00:01:21] I feel like the movie was a little slower and that it kind of like made you sit in those for a bit and like experience what they went through, but it was still paced really well. I thought the pacing of it was very true to the book. So I was a fan of it.
[00:01:34] And I think as someone who has read and then watched, it feels like a funny dynamic because we know what's coming and we don't want it to be over. So I don't mind sitting in it a little longer, but then the opposite you get if you're watching fresh for the first time, you don't know if something bad is going to happen at any moment.
[00:01:57] So there might be that same kind of pressure that you would get when you're experiencing anything for the first time. So I don't know which one is better, but I could see why someone would complain about it. The pacing is slow, but I thought it was a good thing.
[00:02:11] Yeah. And it's interesting for what people who only see the movies versus people who read the books and most people who read the books, this is probably like one of their top two movies as far as an adaptation. People love this one because it's a very true adaptation to the books. Except again, like some of the stuff that we'll talk about that they kind of missed because of previous movies errors. But I'm curious. I don't know, but I feel like some people who are movie only, this might not be one of their favorites because there's no like,
[00:02:40] yeah, like crazy action that happens. Like it's not like the culmination of things at the end of the movie where what you're expecting. Do they fully understand what's happening now? Yeah, that's the thing. I don't think they do. I watch Harry Potter forever ago. Like I had no context. I'm like, I don't really know what's going on. Yeah, but now when you read the books, it makes more sense. I mean, I watched him so long ago, but like I just remember not really fully understanding what was happening.
[00:03:02] But I feel like if you watched it, even if it was a long time ago, if you like understood it and was like, oh my God, like it made an impression. Maybe. I'm curious what Brandon and Lauren, what they think of this one. Yeah, I am curious. It'd be fun to like talk to them when they jump on the podcast. When we talked to them about what movies they liked versus not liked. Yeah.
[00:03:29] Yeah, I would understand if people didn't like that one though, because it is slower. I can text them really quick. They don't know what's happening. You can tell a text Brandon and say give me your ranking of all the bodyovers. Or start thinking about it for your first podcast. Yeah, exactly.
[00:03:44] Yeah, I feel like sometimes the hard part about the movies is you don't always get the motivation because you don't hear the full explanations. You don't know all the details and like for the tent stuff, for example, I felt like it was the radio stuff was kind of missed. And so you feel separated and I'm wondering now what happened with the radio? Did they ever hear the radio friends?
[00:04:11] Because Ron was tinkering with it, but it was more of just connection to the outside world.
[00:04:15] That was one of those things for book lovers that you saw and you're like, oh, there it was. I didn't hate that they didn't have the radio in them. And we can talk about that more later. But I didn't hate it because in the book, it was kind of a pretty important part because they got to hear their voices of people that they loved. I understood in the movies why they cut it out because it wasn't like a vital thing. It didn't move the plot along significantly.
[00:04:38] You just like kind of got a breath of fresh air because something good is happening or like, you know, terrible things aren't happening. They could hear people that they love their voices. But Ron was just kind of tinkering with it. And so you heard it of how I think they said there's one like montage scene where they're moving from place to place like traveling because Ron is splinched. And I think some there's like an announcer. It's not Lee Jordan, but there's like an announcer on the radio saying like the list of casualties. Yeah. Or something. And he lists off all the people who have died.
[00:05:09] But that's like all we got of the radio pretty much. So they played it and Ron and Hermione or Harry and Hermione danced to the radio. You probably even forgot that scene. That was a controversial scene. It's unforgettable. Yeah. Also, the Phineas Nigella stuff wasn't in there. I was like, oh man. But again, that's where in the books you have a little bit more to think about. And in the slow moments, you're wondering, is this going to get them caught? Is this why should they do that? They're messing with this.
[00:05:37] They're wearing it like a necklace. The drama, the radio, all this stuff. It just feels like that tension of the first time experience and not knowing and being nervous for them. So it was a little bit more comforting in the movies to be able to just sit in it and know that it like, all right, it's waiting time. Yeah. Yeah, sure. You don't remember the dance, huh? No, I just asked you why was it very memorable for you?
[00:06:03] Well, it just it felt to me like we were leaning towards and even I'm just thinking as a movie watcher leaning towards Ron Hermione. And so it feels like to have Harry and Hermione have a moment like that felt out of place to me. It felt like it crossed from friendship to more in like at least the movie aesthetic, if nothing else.
[00:06:33] And like, if I was just a movie watcher, I'd be like, I don't hate it. You know, they could couple up maybe I've been watching too much of the perfect match, but I'm like, well, maybe they're a perfect match.
[00:06:45] I mean, there's nothing like confirmed, but there's a theory for why they actually put that scene in the movie, because the movies are coming core like they're correlating to the books as far as the timeline is concerned. And no one knew, like you kind of knew that Ron and Hermione were going to end up together, but you didn't really know. So like in some people's mind, they were building it up for the fact that Harry and Hermione was going to be together.
[00:07:09] So they kind of threw those people a bone a little bit and are like, this is what it would have looked like. Right.
[00:07:14] I saw that were like, oh, that was kind of cute. And I like like a lot of people love that scene for that reason. I don't hate it. I think it's like, you know, good to throw the fans a little bone for what the fan discussion is.
[00:07:25] See, I didn't think that I just thought it was like a testament to their friendship that they could do that.
[00:07:27] Yeah, which is what because you read the books. So I think I guess as a book reader, you see that and you know the ending. So it does feel very like I read, watch it. And I'm like, oh, it's really lovely that they're just friends. And like Harry is doing a really good job of just getting her mind off of things. Right? Exactly. And it's lovely. I love it.
[00:07:46] But for people who are Harry, Hermione shippers are like, that's the moment they should have fell in love.
[00:07:52] There are a lot of people in that category that want them together. No, there wasn't a ton. I mean, there was a lot of people say it makes more sense, which it kind of does. They seem more like a power couple together. But yeah, then I don't know.
[00:08:05] What about Ginny? Yeah, I know. Yeah. Ron can't marry his sister. So what about Ginny too? So yeah, those Weasleys.
[00:08:15] Weasel themselves. And yeah, just like who could run end up with Ginny and Neville. That's an easy one. Someone and fair. But I would say the Harry Luna thing works for me too. So you keep you keep Ron, Hermione, and then you do Harry Luna. And that just feels great. Yeah.
[00:08:37] No, you don't like Ginny. Well, Ginny is not that great. Yeah. Like after watching the movie, I'm just like, Oh, yeah. I hope this show really portrays her and Dumbledore. Both of them. I know there's so many characters. And what you're Neville. Yeah, I know. I actually think Neville in the movies is pretty good. Or you don't like it.
[00:09:01] I don't remember it. Oh, he's not memorable. He's not that significant in the movies because they don't give him enough lines. But I think. Oh, what's his name? I heard his name. I'm trying to say. I think he plays Neville well. So I want them to write Neville better as a character. That's what I meant. Yeah. Agreed. So I'm saying yes to the two actors. Correct. But I don't think they wrote Ginny's well. Yeah, they didn't write. Dumbledore was acting because I think they could have done it well. Yeah, for sure. Fell flat.
[00:09:28] We got to get our hands on the scripts to know. Like, I'm just like, our approval. He runs in and grabs Harry. Yeah. It's like, I know what did the script say there? How did it describe what he was doing? It feels weird. What was that? It was the idea that he he grabs Harry and he's like, Did you put your name in the Goblet of Fire? Right. That's what it was. Yeah.
[00:09:50] It's like walks over and calmly yet. Yeah, it just felt totally different. Again, like he's always in control. And he's like, maybe that's because they wanted to be more. It was dramatic. Yes. Who he is. Dumbledore is a lot of people don't care about who he is. And when they're watching the movies, they just want to get to this story. Like what happened? I don't know. It's like, that's me. I was gonna say you're talking for yourself.
[00:10:17] That's funny. Yeah, we'll do a deep dive on these characters. But welcome to the podcast. I'm John. Oh, Danny and Kaylee. Harry Potter and the first time readers. Nice job. You nailed it. It's like the same cadence. Yeah.
[00:10:45] All right. So let's just kind of go through this and pick out some scenes that we liked and like, and then kind of just talk over some of the major themes. But the movie kind of starts off with them.
[00:11:01] And then Hermione is wiping your parents memory. And sad, like a quick but good. Mm hmm. That's why I again, I think this movie did a lot of things that they squeezed. I feel like the majority of what was in the book right into this movie in some way or another. Like you Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because in the in the in the books, all we got was Hermione saying that scene. And it's like a devastating line in the books. And if they left that out, we would have understood.
[00:11:31] But like closes a hole that I feel like we needed to be closed. Because otherwise, if you're watching the movie, not that you're like thinking of Hermione's parents all the time because you've never really seen them. But you're like, I wonder where Hermione is. I wonder if like they're going to use like the family as you know, as a battle against or like hold them hostage. But we didn't get Ron's ghoul. So that was the other thing. You're like the Weasleys. Oh, yeah, that's right. Wow.
[00:11:59] That's a bummer where he gets spattered right. And yeah, the ghoul. Mm hmm. So smart Ron. I know. Mm hmm.
[00:12:07] And then the movie. So the movie opens up with I don't know if you guys remember some of this, but the charity Burbage scene where there are the Death Eaters are all around in the Malfoy Manor and charity Burbage is like sprawled out on this thing.
[00:12:23] Oh, those and end up killing her. And then he says, like, you know, Nagini dinner or something like that. Nagini comes in this was a swallow. Charity Burbage is the Muggle Studies professor. So all these scenes are like very they're in the books. But to see their friends. Yeah, that's what she says. Yeah. It's a snake.
[00:12:44] I know that was that must have killed her. Yeah, I know. He played it well, though, like with he doesn't show any emotion. Yeah, you don't like him. It's fine. Yeah, I don't know. I was like, wow. Hmm. Makes me question altogether. Was he upset? Yeah. He's like, man, you're not really whatever.
[00:13:03] I'm still like, I'm still actually analyzing Snape and Dumbledore, and I still don't know how I feel about them. Still, while on my second read, it'll be much more telling. And I'm eager to reread it all and see how it feels. But yeah, I'm still left a little bit like there's not a lot of trust there.
[00:13:30] Hmm. It doesn't matter how many times you read it to there's always going to be debate with this. And sometimes you fall in one camp or the other, like Dumbledore is a less divisive. I mean, he's divisive, but he's a less divisive character than Snape. Snape's not the most divisive either. Most people think he's a pretty terrible person. But whether
[00:13:48] Kristen did. Yeah, whether his actions are justified or not, like that's kind of not really where the debate lies for me. He's just a heavily debated character. Dumbledore is too, but a little less than Snape, I think. And then there's always the debate, the debates of like, are the marauders actually legitimately good people? I guess you're was serious. A good person was James, a good person, right? Like Lupin's always like Lupin's my favorite. Yeah, yeah.
[00:14:11] Struggles with certain things. Right. I love him. But yeah, it's going to be fun to do deep dives on some of these characters for whether you think they're good or not. Snape is the tough one. Um, they played him great. Whatever his name is. Alan Rick. Yeah. Alan Rickman. Rickman. Yeah. Who's since died. He's deceased. Yeah. Right.
[00:14:40] Yeah. He passed, but he. Yeah. A few years ago. He was young. He's not that old. I know. I think he was early 60s or something like that. He was too old.
[00:14:53] Um, so they how did you think they displayed the the seven potters when he's escaping? Remember, they all come into the house. The house is weird.
[00:15:03] I thought that was good. Oh, yeah, it was lighthearted and funny. And then it was good contrast. Like helps bring you out of the opening scene. It felt like it all happened so fast. Yeah. Like leaving the house and everything in the sky, the whirlwind. But it probably was just like it was. And reading it. You can slow the pace. But when you're watching it, it's just a whirlwind. Yeah.
[00:15:29] And there are some things in the movie like when you're reading the books, I remember there's scenes in the books where Dumbledore or not Dumbledore Voldemort. Remember, he's there in the little motorcycle on the carriage and then the Death Eaters are supposed to be on their broomsticks riding along with them.
[00:15:45] And then all of a sudden Harry sees a vision of Voldemort flying and you're like, oh, he can fly now. This is like terrifying. And it's like flying toward him in the movies. The Death Eaters are essentially flying along with them, which is a little like less exciting or like it's a little less grand for one.
[00:16:03] Yeah. So again, like they cut that and it was it's not the worst thing that they cut that, you know, they got to say. Yeah, I feel like the appropriate clipping of the.
[00:16:28] The only thing that I was thinking is when reading it, there was a big moment, if I'm remembering correctly, where we wondered if Hagrid was OK. And we just didn't get that at all in the movie. So I was tense, like waiting for how they're going to do that because it was Hedwig and then Hagrid. So it just felt like one of those weird things that you're like, oh, my goodness, there are no rules anymore.
[00:16:52] And so being worried at the chapter end is Hagrid OK? But then again, for pacing and whatever, you can switch that, switch it up and skip things. But maybe it was a good thing. I'm relieved that Hagrid didn't have a close call.
[00:17:06] But yeah, and that is OK. So that's one of the big things in the movie, too, is that certain characters didn't have that like they certain characters didn't have the moments that they should have had. So that moment with Hagrid was scary because like in that moment, the books, you realize how much you care for Hagrid and you're like, no, you can't die. It's like devastating.
[00:17:23] Yeah, if he died, that would have been maybe the most devastated that you've been because you were like, yeah, I mean, you're like, what is happening right now? Yeah. But another moment that they didn't have in the movies, which is my and a lot of people, they don't like it at all, is Dudley never really has his redemption moment, but it is in a deleted scene. So watch the deleted scene.
[00:17:48] That's awesome. It's actually like a pretty cool deleted scene. It's like one of my favorites. Why would they delete it? I know they shouldn't have deleted that. It was a bummer. Was it from this movie or the next movie?
[00:17:58] It's from this movie. So right before the people come and they do the seven potters thing, all the Dursleys are leaving. And there's two moments that happen. One is not controversial at all. And one is slightly controversial because they added something that is in the books.
[00:18:16] The one is Dudley is like pretty much does exactly what he does in the books. He says, I don't understand. Like, why aren't we leaving? And then he just walks up to Harry. I think he says the same thing. I think he says, like, I don't think you're a waste of space. And then he goes and shakes his hand. And there's like a cute little moment between them.
[00:18:38] But right before that, when Petunia is about to leave, she looks at Harry and goes, it wasn't just you who lost a mother in that night. I also lost a sister. And it's a great line. I actually think it's a really powerful line. But it shows like her regret and everything that happened. And like, she's kind of a more humanized character. But they completely cut that from the movie.
[00:18:58] So I'll send it to you guys. I'll show you guys the deleted scenes because they don't elaborate on the history of. Yeah, it's true. It doesn't have as much weight. It probably is great for someone that read the book, but they're probably like that doesn't need to be there from. Yeah, because they didn't explain it in the movies really at all. Do you even know that their sisters?
[00:19:18] Lily and Petunia. I think so. You must. I don't I can't remember how, but. And that she didn't have any powers, but her sister did, I guess, as soon. I don't know. I can't remember why. Or is it coming up like the whole. That's actually really fascinating. Up until this point, I'm curious of people who have seen the movies. You can make a deduction for it. I know, but like. But if there's nothing like explicitly about.
[00:19:45] I feel like these are some of the questions we have to ask. Brandon. Yeah, seriously. I did ask some of them, but what they think about things, what their impressions are not like it's a quiz, but just honestly. Yeah. But as just a little impression.
[00:19:57] Or even the stag thing, the patronus of the stag. Is that even come up that that's Harry's dad's? No. Yeah. So I brought that up to Brandon. He goes, wait, what? Yeah. I mean, probably not like that is probably cooler.
[00:20:11] And the Marauders map. Yeah, you don't know anything about that. You don't you don't know that they made anything like that in the movies. The movies don't put any of that information in.
[00:20:24] Oh, but for this movie specifically, they do a good job with the information. But like the things that they haven't built up in the movies, they kind of just like the guy was like, I guess the director just didn't feel like they needed to put him in, which is why they kind of cut.
[00:20:37] And they didn't even talk about the what are they called? Animagus. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. Yep. Yep. At all. That's why it's going to be fun talking about the the books in the movies with them.
[00:20:49] Yeah. What did you guys think about Rufus Scrimgeour? So one of the next scenes, they go to the borough and they're like preparing for the wedding. And then Rufus Scrimgeour gives the will. Yeah, I forgot. I liked it. I liked him because I felt like he was a good guy.
[00:21:18] I liked him because I felt like he was a really good balance. Yeah. Of kind of how I pictured him, except he was a little younger than I pictured, like in the movies. I was like, oh, and and he's Bill Bill. Yeah, it's like he's he's cool. And he he played it well where you don't trust him, but you kind of like him. Yeah. Right there in the middle.
[00:21:45] And in the suspense of it, I feel like that's what it needed to be. And then knowing where his character goes or I should say where I put him in my own mind, I'm like, oh, yes, I like him. Like by the end, I was like, yeah, he's he's a good guy. Maybe misguided. But then I think with that in mind, great character. Yeah.
[00:22:09] I really liked him in the movies because he did play that role really well, like in with Fudge, you kind of just hate Fudge. But with with Scrimgeour, you kind of understand where he's coming from a little bit more. And he's he's less in the movies, too, because he's not like trying to play this like Harry B, like the marketing campaign of what they're doing here. But he definitely is a little more suspicious. And he's like, he plays him really well, I think, to the point where you're a little more sympathetic with him in the movies and the books. So I kind of liked him.
[00:22:40] I thought no, I was not if they leave anything out of the will. I'm remembering. I feel like the trance about the snitch was different, but I can't remember what it was.
[00:22:59] I feel like it was the the timing of Harry saying, oh, let me try. Oh, I didn't catch it. I caught it with my mouth. Like, I feel like just the timing of him exploring that was a little different.
[00:23:11] Oh, and because didn't it immediately? Didn't he already know? I open up the clothes. But then in the movies they waited. That was like a big reveal later on in the movie.
[00:23:20] But in the books, that was part of the will. Right? Yes. Rather than being on the snitch itself. Scrimgeour said that to them. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. He didn't say I was. Oh, that was actually on the thing.
[00:23:34] That was right away. No, Harry touched it with his hands. He touched it with his hand. So he held it. Right after that moment, Harry, when Scrimgeour left, he was like shouting victory. He's like,
[00:23:45] you guys remember how I caught my first snitch? And they're like, no, Harry. He's like, I almost swallowed it. So that's when he puts it to his mouth. Yeah. But in the burrow right there, it happens right after.
[00:23:54] OK, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was pretty quick. But then nothing more happened. Yeah, nothing more happened because they didn't understand it. Yeah. Essentially, that was remember that was the looming
[00:24:04] question over the book. Yeah. What does that mean? But do we even like that? Yeah, I was waiting for something way more important. Yeah, I know. Yeah, no, that is true. Out of the snitch. I thought this was going to kill
[00:24:20] like Voldemort or save them or something. And it was like, oh, you bring back dead people to walk with you to your death. But it's significant, though, because he becomes the master of death. Like he is the he is the true master of the Deathly Hallows.
[00:24:37] And that's that's a huge he's like the most powerful wizard in existence at that point. That no one knows about. Yeah, for sure. Which is even greater because Harry doesn't want that.
[00:24:46] It was like a humility. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think it just didn't feel as grand. It should have been a different thing, though. It should have been the snitch. Wait, what? It shouldn't have been the snitch? No, wait, sorry.
[00:24:59] Oh, I was just going to say that, like he was so humble about it and it was so subtle that I almost felt like I needed to like I need another character to guide me through this. I needed a Dumbledore
[00:25:11] to like help me as a reader and even Harry to understand the significance. But I felt like he understood it so quickly and then was moving on. And then it it just felt so subtle, like he didn't
[00:25:24] use the power in a way. Yeah. In a moment that would have been more satisfying. Like of the Deathly Hallows. I don't know something about it. I guess it felt like because it was leading up to what felt like
[00:25:40] a fight, kind of even though he was giving himself up in that moment when he's walking through the Forbidden Forest. I guess I thought something more was going to happen and then to have him arrive
[00:25:52] and then immediately end up in at nine and three quarters. It felt like almost anticlimactic, but there was so much like fear and worry and whatever. Again, second time reader, we better understand the weight of it all as I read it because it all happened so fast.
[00:26:16] How did you guys like a wedding scene? And even when they left the wedding, when they got chased by the the Death Eaters and that little cafe that they were in. I didn't really like that.
[00:26:26] Why not? I just felt like they were introducing the characters like Floor and what the heck is it? Bill? Bill, is it? They hadn't met him. That was a pet peeve of mine.
[00:26:39] They haven't met. Yeah, I know. I don't like that. We haven't met who? No, like in the movies. He's nice to meet you. Bill to Harry. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I didn't like that. That's yeah, that's absurd.
[00:26:52] But that's because they didn't talk about the Death Eaters. So dumb. I don't like it. Because they didn't do any of the dragon stuff in the other thing in the Triwizard Cup. Well, Charlie
[00:27:02] was in Relina. Charlie, Bill in the movies plays Charlie and Bill. Oh, really? Because they completely cut Charlie from the movie. Oh my goodness. That's why I'm like, I thought he was in the forest during the Triwizard Tournament. Codebreaker. And Charlie is working with dragons
[00:27:20] in Romania. That's so lame. All right. I did not even process that. Okay, that makes a little bit of sense. They completely cut Charlie out of the movies. Yeah, but then that being the first time
[00:27:30] they meet is wild. Yeah, it should not be the seventh movie. And he knows. Yeah, I just didn't like the introductions was like rushed. And then it didn't seem like that. I don't know. It was
[00:27:43] like, you had no idea what was going on. Like, they weren't like saying that Harry had to be undercover so that way no one knows that we're in danger. And we're still walking around as himself
[00:27:55] at the wedding. Yeah, I know. With all these bonus people around. And did we see them casting like a million enchantments? Or was this just like a casual wedding? Did we even see her walk down the
[00:28:06] aisle? Like she was like, didn't she like, she was a side character at this way. Yeah, it was like, yeah, when she was wearing the tiara, she was walking down and the tiara too. How like her
[00:28:17] beauty made other people more beautiful. Yeah. I don't know how they would have done that with film. But it would have been interesting to see how they could do that. Well, that that wedding
[00:28:26] could be a whole episode in the TV show. I know it was really on the nose with the necklace in Harry's face when he's like saying hello and then it's like right here. Yeah,
[00:28:37] I did like some parts of it. Yeah, I just felt rushed. But the necklace they don't explain enough because Victor Crumb comes and he's the one that gives a download. And that's why you're
[00:28:47] led to a different conclusion because you think this is a mark of Grindelwald. Yeah, it's a mark. So you don't really have that at all in the movies, which again, it's maybe you think it's
[00:28:57] a good thing. Yeah, you maybe think everything is a bad thing. Exactly. Yeah. But you guys knew it was a mark of Grindelwald. You knew it was that Durmstrang. So you're like, this is a weird mark.
[00:29:07] And your guys, you guys. It's funny because the books you were so concerned about Grindelwald the whole entire time. And he plays such an insignificant role. And so the movies, they're like, yeah, he doesn't play a significant role at all. So that's kind of but in the books,
[00:29:21] it's like a huge question that comes up. You're like, how is this guy going to be involved in the plot? So it's it's good. It's interesting. Yeah, that's annoying that she did that.
[00:29:31] Yeah, you talking for I was obsessed. Yeah, I'll admit. Every in Crockpot only because you know what I love. I love when things come up so early and then they get carried all the way through.
[00:29:43] Yeah. And I felt like because he did come up early on. I was like, Oh yeah, this is so many cool possibilities. But then it just gets closer and closer to the end. And I'm like,
[00:29:52] or there's nothing there. And I really still was surprised in the end that there was no more of a connection with family ties. Again, maybe it's my Star Wars upbringing, but like, I wanted there to
[00:30:07] be more connections. Yeah, for sure. And like moments or Harry's grandparents or like more of that the her bonus books that she can write in a few years when she's ready for it. I don't know.
[00:30:21] But I thought the wedding scene was good, in general. And that's why I thought the whole movie was good because even the things they missed. I didn't miss them that much while
[00:30:30] I was watching. Yeah, agreed. I agree. Those they good. Yeah, they cut out the things that I think if they had to make a quick movie, they cut out the things that are okay to cut. Like, you know,
[00:30:40] you don't necessarily need the Victor Crumb scene out there. It adds like a good bit of, you know, attention to the books and like comedy to the books as well. You don't need that. It's
[00:30:48] like a good thing to cut. It would have been great to see Dudley's redemption. But like, you know, you go off in the end of this, and you just still hate Dudley, even though it's
[00:30:55] a deleted scene. So you still actually get to see it, which I don't care. I don't mind. What do you guys think of the so after that they leave the wedding, and then
[00:31:06] they kind of like go to Grimold place and they set this plot up for the ministry and they go raid the ministry. What do you guys think of the whole rating of the Ministry of Magic? It was pretty decent. Yeah.
[00:31:20] Yeah, I can't really think of anything to complain about. Yeah. I mean, it was different. Oh, the only thing is with Harry, like the end, right? Doesn't Harry like let all them escape
[00:31:31] all the people that were in trial? All the muggle born? Yeah, we don't get that at all. Yeah. Yeah, it was basically just them running away, right? Nobody else went with them. Yeah, because you don't even have the other people in the movie. Yeah, that's true. So.
[00:31:47] But to your point, it would have been great to see Harry because that's like his character is I want to save as many people as possible. So they were like line the hallways of the of the courtroom
[00:31:55] and there were the dementors are being held back. And then as Harry was leaving, he like brought all of them with him. He's like, I'm not leaving anybody behind. So I'm with you. That would have been great, great to see as far as like the character of Harry,
[00:32:08] because I think they they didn't nail the character of Harry in the movies. Yeah. But Carrie is a little bit better of a person, I think a little bit more his personality. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel Radcliffe just wanted Tony. So, whoa, really? I mean, how many years after?
[00:32:27] Yeah. Well, we're for Harry Potter. No, no, no, no. Yeah. That's Tony's for Broadway. I have no idea. I don't think he's in the Cursed Child, but that'd be cool if he was. Yeah, he's he's on Broadway.
[00:32:41] You know, I thought the ministry, we got to see just a little bit more of it. It's just not how I pictured it. I don't know why I pictured it like just like an 80s office building or something. It's just like,
[00:32:53] I know it's underground and everything, but there were just like moments outside of the office when Harry is what he dropped those little things. What the decoy detonator, the decoy detonators, and they're making all the noise in even that space. I was like,
[00:33:10] it just feels like kind of classy and cool. Yeah. It's still like a little cold, but a little grand. It was just not how I pictured it. I pictured it a little more zany and a little more lame. I don't know why I pictured it like that.
[00:33:21] It was interesting to see that kind of my ideas of it. Yeah. I don't know why. Yeah, look at it is actually interesting. The I like how he does it. Does an illustrated version. He does like a whole layout of what
[00:33:38] what do you think it would look like? It's like more of a blueprint than anything else, but it's still kind of cool. But some of the things that they added in for this scene specifically, I actually loved like I love the interaction with Ron.
[00:33:51] Like Ron was just hilarious through the whole heist. So funny. He has that one line where they're in the elevator and he's like, what am I going to do? My wife's downstairs all alone.
[00:34:01] Ron, you're not married. She's not your wife. And then they like kiss at the end, which is really funny. No, no, I didn't think so. OK, because he goes home throwing up because they
[00:34:11] they give him a puking pastels or whatever like that. And then there's one great scene that everyone loves in the movies that they don't have in the books, which is Umbridge knows that it's
[00:34:25] Harry who's stealing the locket because he rips it off her and she goes, I'm sorry, Dolores, but I must not tell lies. And he takes the locket, stuns her and takes locket. And you're like,
[00:34:33] you get satisfaction. Yeah, that's pretty good. Or in the books, he's still this the person that he's hiding. He's still in the polyjuice form. So they get the locket. They stunned Umbridge with
[00:34:46] the polyjuice forms. They get the locket and they they skedaddle from there. So we Harry's himself in the book when he's taking it from Umbridge. No, no, no, no, he's not. He's still he's still
[00:34:58] polyjuice form, whatever the guy. Right. And in the movie, he was in the movie. He starts to transform. He's the one and then like his face is transforming and he has the line. And as soon
[00:35:09] as he's back, he's back to Harry Potter. I'm sorry, Dolores, but I must not tell lies. And that he that was a book. I like that, though. It's a good it's a good transition to change.
[00:35:23] Well, we have one next. How did you guys like the whole camping scene? Like a lot of the rest of the movie is essentially them in the wilderness, like going from place to place.
[00:35:37] And the one thing that I the only reason I don't like this is because we don't get something that comes before, which is Creature's Tale. Creature has no redemption, which is my my biggest qualm
[00:35:49] with this movie. It's a good point. That creature has you don't really know anywhere that like what happens with him, even when he gets sent away to go find Mundungus. You don't get the moment
[00:35:58] where like Harry gives him like, you know, this is fake locket or the Blackfeather family heirloom. That's right. So you don't get any of those moments which make Creature such a compelling character, like he has one of the best redemption arcs, to be honest, in the entire series.
[00:36:11] And you don't have any of that, which is a little depressing for me. But how do you guys like all the camping bits, even like Ron leaving all like the middle part of this movie? Jen. Kaylee.
[00:36:29] I thought it was pretty good. I guess it's not. I can't like it was a good chunk of the time. I feel like it was pretty good. I think there were moments where I was like, OK, like,
[00:36:47] yeah, speed it up a little bit. We can continue a little. Or then the only other thing was that I wish they showed the the crew that were like the good people that like they were.
[00:37:01] I know. Well, who was they were at the campfire? They were like, you know, getting there debating whether they would show themselves or not. Yeah. That would have been a nice scene because they show the other two twice. They weren't even in.
[00:37:14] Yeah, that wasn't even was it the Death Eaters? That wasn't a thing. Yeah, that wasn't. So that was weird. It's interesting because in the in the movies, their camping scene is actually a lot more bleak
[00:37:27] than the books and the books. It still sucks. But they have moments of like super highs and super lows in the movies. Their camping scene kind of just like sucks. It's like nothing really
[00:37:39] could happen. So like the they start camping, you know. They're not having a great time. They're not really having any luck. They can't destroy the Horcrux. But all of a sudden,
[00:37:50] like, you know, they they see Dean and they have like they see other people and they have a discussion. They're like excited about that. And then all hell breaks loose after that.
[00:37:59] Like Ron leaves. It's like furious is terrible. And then all of a sudden you have like a good moment again. And it just keeps going back in the books from good moment to bad moment.
[00:38:07] And the movies, it's much less about that. It's like they're in the pits right now. They have no idea how to destroy this Horcrux. Ron left like they have no qualms of they have
[00:38:15] like nothing good is happening, which is I mean, play is decent as far as a movie because. Yeah. Yeah, I guess it's I guess it's also setting the scene for the more dramatic
[00:38:34] like end. So it's a slower pace leading up to it. Maybe I didn't really like that in the book either. Yeah, I guess. Let's get to the point. They also didn't talk about the.
[00:38:54] Yeah, they didn't talk about the saying his name, Voldemort. Yeah. And how that's a curse now like that wasn't brought up at all. It doesn't someone say it doesn't Hermione say it. Yeah. And we're like, what? Don't say the memory. No. Honestly, I don't remember. I was thinking
[00:39:14] that the movie still did it correctly, but just didn't address it. Didn't talk about it. Yeah. But I don't remember. And maybe that's why those guys were there all of a sudden.
[00:39:24] You actually so you kind of know later on in the movies, but they they reveal it in a different way when they're at Xenophilus is Lovegood's house. And he says he just like looks at them and says
[00:39:39] Voldemort. And all of a sudden the Death Eaters come crashing into his house and like destroy his house. And they left that in a totally different way that we'll talk about in a bit
[00:39:47] at the end. But that's maybe how you would know, because like he said it and all of a sudden Death Eaters just popped in. But still, I don't know if you'd be able to deduce that if you've seen
[00:39:57] the movies. That's like a right. I might go over your head. I don't think so. Maybe it's like more of a grand entrance or something like that. So Ron leaves and then after this, we have this moment where they go to
[00:40:19] like a little village. And they see I feel the backshot, something hollow. Yeah. Godric's Godric's Godric's. How did you like the scene with the snake, with Bethilda, with the tombstones of all that? That was pretty good. And yeah, yeah, good. Good.
[00:40:39] I thought they did that pretty well. Yep. You could almost like smell it because there's like flies. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's also is cool to see how Hermione was starting to realize it on the first floor, like something's off. But she couldn't communicate with Harry. So the
[00:41:00] tension buildup of that scene was even more. Yeah, agreed. And there's there's something too I like about this. Maybe I go back and forth on this, but in the books they go in polyjuice form.
[00:41:15] And one of the key points of this whole series in the books is that they're seeing magic that they've never seen before because they're so disturbed by what happened in the movies. It's
[00:41:23] maybe less so about that, but I like that Harry goes back as himself and he's like, I'm he's like, this is Godric's hollow. I'm not coming here as someone else. I kind of like that. He says that
[00:41:32] I would maybe be the same a little bit. And I actually really love I think it's a really touching moment when they're at the the gravestone of Harry's parents doesn't hold a candle to the
[00:41:43] book because the book is like Harry's like wishing he was with them in the ground. Has like a death wish in this moment. It's so perfectly written in the in the books and in the movies. I thought
[00:41:53] they portrayed it pretty well. Yeah, like they did some good emotion. You know, Hermione makes this wreath. It's like kind of lovely. It's quaint. A little bit snow falling. It's it's kind of a nice scene. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, but Hilda was pretty strange looking. Okay,
[00:42:16] so after this scene, we get a what? The laughing queen over here. After the scene, we get Ron, who is who finally comes back and they find the sword. What do you guys think of that? And then like the Hermione, the whole battle between both of them.
[00:42:38] The sword. So remember the sword in the pond? The doe brings the Patronus, but we don't know who it is. Yeah. And you don't know who's they even. We don't even know that it is somebody.
[00:42:55] Yeah, it's just like a magical doe in the woods. You're like, cool. They don't even go over Patronus either. So it's like that creature on its own. Yeah. They just have blue blobs
[00:43:09] animals with some witches and wizards. Yeah, they don't go over it. Well, they do a little bit because you understand it like when Lupin is training Harry how to do it. Right. Like doesn't he do that whole scene where he's like teaching him? It's in his office. Yeah.
[00:43:26] Is that the book or the movie? Well, both. I'm actually thinking of the movie though, because wasn't it like Lupin is actually sitting down with Harry and teaching him how to do it with?
[00:43:38] Was a bogart in like a box and he's opening it and teaching Harry. And I remember it was a good scene because there was some a story or some emotion there that I was like, that was good.
[00:43:52] So I think people do understand it. And then maybe even with Dumbledore's army, don't we? I can't remember if this is me imagining as I'm reading, but there were like scenes where they were all doing their Patronus and they're kind of jumping around or something.
[00:44:07] Oh, yeah. That's true. So I feel like it's known enough that they might have known it was Patronus and maybe even a movie watcher would be like, that's a Patronus. But where did it come from?
[00:44:17] Is it Dumbledore? Is it whatever, you know? I thought the scene was good. And it was like a weird moment as you're watching when you're like, oh, this is pretty intense between Harry and
[00:44:30] Hermione here. And then Ron, you can see like the struggle and then you're like, oh, this is a lot. I could see the emotion and the weirdness of it all. And then again, even in that moment,
[00:44:46] he distinctly takes that anger out on the locket. But in the book, I don't remember how it was said, but it was enough where I was like, I wonder if a little bit of him was trying to stab Harry.
[00:44:59] Harry almost gets out of the way in the book. He's a little nervous. So it feels like it was a different dynamic just a little bit. So I was relieved that Ron in the
[00:45:10] movie was so distinctly like, it felt like deciding this is bad, but this is not true. Locket death. I think part of that too, I think it's really good. I think part of that is because in the books,
[00:45:23] we're just in Harry's head. So maybe Harry has these insecurities that like him and Ron are a little, you know, less. Maybe there's like some kind of wall between them, which is Hermione.
[00:45:35] In the movies, you got the scene where there's like no doubt Ron and Hermione are going to end up together. You like know that you get a few bones thrown, but it's like this is the way it is.
[00:45:45] So that's a great point. I kind of like that. There's a good comedic moments in there though, when Ron is like talking about how he, he like found his way back. He's like that ball of light.
[00:46:03] And then Harry's like, you just keep talking about that ball of light and she won't be mad at you. But you don't get the lurking of Snape in the forest as well, which is something that you guys
[00:46:18] remarked when you saw the movie, because he's behind a tree in the books. Yeah. There's nothing. Yeah. And again, you even said you don't get a, um, what's his face, the painting. That's how he figures out where they are.
[00:46:32] You're talking about what kind of, what woods they are. So like Snape goes and searches the woods and like finds them. I did think of that. Even though that was your, that was your theory.
[00:46:43] And it was true about the painting. Oh yeah. Yeah. I thought it was for evil. Um, when we were reading, you mean where I was like, this is dangerous. Why are you saying
[00:46:54] things around the painting? Cause it's like, yeah, but I feel like, but it was for good this whole time, right? This whole time. I feel like, um, if you're making a movie that is already a
[00:47:09] book, you can get away with a lot. Um, as far as plot holes or little lectures, you can skim over things because you know that if anyone wants to know, they could always read the books and find
[00:47:22] out like the story behind the story. Um, it's not an excuse for any of it, but I am curious how, if it's ever explained or you just need to suspend your disbelief and say, well, somehow Snape knew where they were in the forest.
[00:47:35] And if you've read, if you've read the books, you've just become snobby toward the movies. I will say that watching House of Dragon right now. And the people I'm like seeing all these videos about people who read the books and they're like, Oh, it's like nothing. How I
[00:47:49] pictured it. And this, these one, this one person took out the most minute dumbest thing, uh, or he was like when, uh, who is it? Lucerys goes to Winterfell. Did you see, did you see this? Okay. Have you guys seen any of the, uh, the episodes? No, no.
[00:48:07] Okay. So one character goes to like Winterfell and the person was like, Oh, they didn't show really what they needed to show in the books. And it was like, all they had in the books was like, they had, they feasted together and they like went on a
[00:48:16] hunt together. And the one guy was mad. They didn't include that. I'm like, it's like one sentence in the book. And you're like, what? They want to dedicate all this time and money
[00:48:26] and a budget to go for a hunt and have a feast. Yeah. So that can be silly. It's a little extreme for some of it. But as a movie watcher primarily, what I would do is I would Google about it. So that way I could
[00:48:40] piece things together. So I would be doing that. I'd be like, this doesn't make any sense. I think it's annoying for movie. You need to Google things to understand what's happening. Agreed. Yeah. That shouldn't happen. The movie should be self-explanatory. I guess. You shouldn't need to do that.
[00:48:56] But I need to know details. So even if it wasn't in the movie, It should have been better to include this. You didn't have to do that. I know, but then it would have to be how long? But yeah, I know. That's the point. You're right though.
[00:49:08] A good movie should kind of be like, You don't ask questions. Yeah. So you understand what's happening. And if you are a research person, you can be like, oh, what is really the detail with this character? And you can do your own in-depth research.
[00:49:19] Right. If you want to go in depth, in depth. Yeah. Well, Lauren and Brandon I don't think have ever questioned anything. And they love it. But that's part of the thing that I think is so beautiful about it as a movie.
[00:49:31] Some things you don't need to know the answers to. And if you're watching it, the movie apparently, because it's pretty popular, they've captured what people care about. And even if people haven't seen the deleted scenes, are people thinking,
[00:49:48] Oh, where's Dudley? Does he have a good arc? Or are they just like, yeah, get him out of here. I'm glad he wasn't in the movie. You know, like, I don't know. Maybe people don't even care.
[00:49:56] And in movie one, Dudley seems like a big deal. He's like villain number one, basically, or number two or three, maybe. But like, he was a character. And by this, it's like, who's Dudley? Yeah. I agree. Yeah, it's true. He's got no powers. You mean nothing to me.
[00:50:14] I mean, I don't know about all that, but it just feels like it's his significance goes down. And so as a movie watcher, maybe you're like, I don't know, doesn't matter. And again, a lot of it does come down to screen time, because he hasn't been built up
[00:50:27] for with the book. So you don't like when you read the books, you hate him so much more. So when his redemption comes, you're like, wow, that was actually like kind of a cool moment. Even though he just says Harry wasn't a waste of space.
[00:50:38] Like it's like almost comedic in the books. But you still feel the journey a little bit because you realize he put the tea outside of Harry's door, the soup or something. So like, you know that it wasn't just one moment of him feeling this way.
[00:50:50] He was trying to make up for Harry that summer, however long the summer was. And so then it's like, oh, well, it wasn't just a one moment thing. He's been trying. And for Dudley, you just get the feeling he's trying as hard as he can
[00:51:03] to have emotion and he just doesn't know what he's doing. But it's cute. So I love that redemption arc. Yeah, honestly, it's great. Okay, two more scenes, the two like biggest scenes at the end. Xenophilius Lovegood's house. How did you guys like that scene? With Luna. So.
[00:51:23] That's decent. Yeah, not a huge, not a ton of changes from the books. There's there's a few changes, but the one scene embedded in this scene that it's still it's like people's favorite scene
[00:51:35] is the telling of the tale of the three brothers. Everyone who rewatches these movies loves that because the animation is actually. Oh, that was really good. Yeah. Like people return to the scene and they love it. They should have drew it in.
[00:51:51] In her book, she should have had like a little. What is that called? Graphic novel. Just go right in there. Go right in. Yeah, that'd been kind of cool. Yeah, seriously, it's a great idea. You sell it, sell to them.
[00:52:06] One of the things the the movie doesn't include are. When they go up to Luna's room and they see their faces painted on the wall, which is kind of funny. So you don't get that. And then another thing is Harry, Ron and Hermione just leave in a tizzy.
[00:52:26] And they don't protect. Xenophilias. Remember the way they left was like Hermione is like, Hermione did it. Do you trust me? Do this, do this, do this. We need to do this. And Harry and
[00:52:38] Ron don't know what's going on, but they follow her. So Hermione like is protecting this guy. And again, this is one of the things that I love so much in the books is that
[00:52:47] not only is Harry out to protect people, Hermione is really out to protect people as well. Like Ron does it too, but it's like the trio, this group, they're like learning from each other
[00:52:56] and they want to save other people. And the movies you get less of that and they're a bit more reckless, which I don't love so much. Right? You're right. Because it's weird. I was looking
[00:53:08] out for that scene. Yeah. Expose him so that way he doesn't look like a liar. Yep. You don't have it. And it's a little thing, but I pictured it much bigger, like the house and everything.
[00:53:22] I don't know exactly why. But then it also feels funny that you can have a tent that's magical and big and way bigger than it looks. And then you're in this like tiny house. Yeah, exactly.
[00:53:34] The storytelling was great. You kind of wonder why all wizards don't just live in mansions. You know, why doesn't every single wizard just make their house a little bit bigger? If space
[00:53:43] is not there, you know? They're in the middle of nowhere. And you can build it with magic. You don't even need a roof. It's just like a big old skylight, but the rain never comes in.
[00:53:53] That'd be cool. Yeah. Well, it's kind of like what it is in the Great Hall, right? And they just get to look up at the rain. I couldn't tell in the Great Hall,
[00:54:01] is it just a projection of the sky or are they actually seeing through to like the weather and the sky and stuff? I think it's a projection of the sky. Yeah. Same. All right. Projection
[00:54:08] is almost as good as reality. You're like, just like it. Well, if it's a close enough projection. But yeah, it is funny. All the wizard homes are so small. Something about it, I guess. They don't want attention. They don't need the space. Yeah. Doesn't matter to them.
[00:54:28] You want to be cozy. Wow. Yeah, you're right. And then the last scene in the entire in the movies is when they go to Malfoy Manor, they get caught, they go to Malfoy Manor and then the Dobby. No. Devastating. I cried.
[00:54:46] The dagger. Yeah. I should. I did see a TikTok of two guys that were from America and they made a whole video about like they're going to see the Dobby memorial scene. So they booked tickets to
[00:54:58] Europe. They went to England and they went to that one little shell cottage area where they filmed. And there was like all sorts of like, you know, rocks that they have scattered over there. That's the Mecca. So crazy that they created that. I know. It's awesome.
[00:55:19] Well, what did you guys did you guys have any qualms with the last scene? No, sad. There at Malfoy Manor. Honestly, things don't change that significantly in that scene. Right. Everything's kind of as is in the books. Wait, I think I'm like trying to remember. It's
[00:55:36] been too long. I remember not being as satisfied with the worm tail death. Yeah, that's and that's how you don't do his arm thing. Right. Again, I understand why they cut it out. It's not like
[00:55:47] I was that upset, but I think I was just a little excited to see that part. Yeah. I was like, but you're you were excited to see it as a book reader. Right. And the movies had no
[00:55:57] explanation of that in prior movies. So the director is pigeonhole. He was trapped. He's like, yeah, I can't just all of a sudden have his arm kill him because they didn't really make any
[00:56:06] explanation for that. Right. So if they do that, you're like, that's weird. It maybe would have been good for book readers because you're like, you would have been able to explain it. If I'm
[00:56:13] like sitting in and I read the books and I'm watching the movie with a friend, I'm like, guys, this is the reason like if you're watching with Brandon, Lauren, you're like, there's so much backstory behind this. You don't even understand. And your friends are like,
[00:56:24] shut up. Just watch the movie. But no, I want to know. Yeah. But even like I'm thinking they could do creative things like in the tent. They have some dialogue where Harry explains. Yeah. Right.
[00:56:36] Or like something somehow it could come up. Yeah. But it just it might have wasted time or something. But again, it's one of those other things to be excited about with the show. Exactly. More
[00:56:44] time to flesh out the details. Exactly. But I feel like in general, I liked I liked it. I liked that there was at least a little bit of Luna Ollivander stuff. So I thought that was so
[00:56:57] cute in the books. It felt like she was like taking care of him and stuff. Yeah, I can't think of anything to complain about. Just yelling at the screen like just leave Dobby. Oh, yeah, I know.
[00:57:12] You're talking to me about being free and blah, blah, blah. But it wouldn't matter anyway. It wouldn't have mattered. But it felt like it did. Yep. Honestly, I think that's the best portrayed
[00:57:23] death of the whole series. You have it's just so sad. Yep. And they're on the beach and he like says Harry Potter as his last words. Mm hmm. It was good. Yeah. And I think it was portrayed well,
[00:57:38] like it worked well as a visual because in the book it took a while to like figure it out. But in the movie, you're like you see it. You understand it. It was powerful. It was like,
[00:57:53] I guess that was one of those things where you feel a little lost for a second. And then as you're regaining your composure in the book, you're like, wait, what? But in the movie, you you understand that it's happening, but it doesn't take away from the sadness. Yeah,
[00:58:07] so I thought it was it was a good moment and well done. Yeah, I also liked Hermione and Bellatrix scene where Bellatrix is like writing. Yeah. And torturing her on Hermione's arm, which that didn't happen in the book, right? I mean, the torturing. Yes, but not. I don't
[00:58:26] remember any specifics. And it was kind of nice to have a visual. Yeah, yeah. It was like muggle or mudblood, right? Mudbloods. Oh, yeah. Yikes. And then you get the one you guys have commented
[00:58:40] on the scene where the hair comes and jacket. That was great because that's the small again, where it felt almost funny in the book where you're like, yeah, they had a hair. But how do
[00:58:49] they know who's it really is? Yeah. But that was like specific. Yeah. Good job. Remember that? Oh, for the next movie. That's right. But that that's kind of the fun stuff because you don't
[00:59:00] notice and you don't remember it. And then you rewatch it and you find all these like smaller little details that are in there. So again, this is this is probably the movie that maybe holds up
[00:59:07] the best, because when you rewatch them, you're like, oh, they actually kind of added some really interesting things into this one. And it's a pretty good adaptation. So the other ones, maybe not so much. But yeah, they throw some good little tidbits in this one.
[00:59:23] Anything else about these? I'm trying to think if there's anything. We'll be a little quicker for the next time between the movie and the pod. It comes back. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Oh, yeah, exactly. The script to you. Yeah. Scene opens.
[00:59:44] That's helpful. It is helpful. Now I think that's it. Yeah. Those are all the big ones. Who did you OK? So who do you guys think is the hot tamale of this movie? Who's the best character? And do you have a favorite moment of this movie?
[01:00:01] Mm hmm. I like when Dobby saves them and that whole Dobby scene, even though it's sad. Can that be a favorite moment? Yeah, it's a good one. Yep. Or when Ron comes back. Yeah, when Ron comes back was pretty good. Yeah, I like that part.
[01:00:22] I feel like the ministry stuff stands out to me and Dobby's scene at the end. I feel like those are the ones that if I'm just thinking of the movie, it's just ministry tent. Dobby dies.
[01:00:38] That's like that's how I'm just picturing those three things. Yeah, I'm just trying to think through that open was intense. Yeah. The Ministry of Magic, like where they're polyjuiced. But the opening scene with Voldemort was jarring, too. I, of course, didn't like it, but
[01:00:56] I don't remember. Well, just with the at the table. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I remember that, Professor. Yeah. Oh, man, it's hard. Hard to pick. Who's a hot tamale, though? Hermione? Hmm. Yeah, probably a little too hot. Hmm. Because who are hot tamales in the book for
[01:01:18] this section? We're really hot tamales like Ginny is radiates and then like I know Floris was to radiate and like they're like, yeah, not really hot tamales in this because they just kind of
[01:01:29] oh my gosh, that awkward scene with Ginny and Harry in the burrow. I know tying shoes or something. The dress. This was the button me up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The funny. Well, it's funny
[01:01:42] because he comes with the like the toothbrush in his ear. That was when the burrow gets destroyed in Half-Blood Prince. Oh, wow. When she goes on the stairs and she looks at Harry. Yeah. And she
[01:01:54] goes and ties a shoe. This one, she comes down the stairs and her dress is unzipped and she goes, zip me up. And he has a spell. He does it from across the room. She could have. Yeah. Obviously.
[01:02:08] Obviously. And he knows it, too. No, just the chemistry wasn't there. Yeah, that's because she's a dud. Yeah. Yeah. She's probably great now as an actress. She probably is. She doesn't do it.
[01:02:23] I think. Yeah. Oh, that's too harsh. I don't mean to be mean, but it's just that it didn't strike me as a performance with a lot of follow ups. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. But even if it's the director's
[01:02:36] fall or whatever, but why would you just cash it in? Yeah. Yeah. That's what she did. She cashed it in. She started like some humanitarian projects. That's perfect. I think she's like in the off in the sunset living her homesteading life or something like that with her. Homesteading.
[01:02:50] I think she's doing something like that. I know she has a big garden. I think she's yeah, she's living her life. Yeah. She is a hot tamale. Yeah. In real life. And she's not ruining her
[01:03:00] life with whatever else. Yes. I agree. I agree. Yeah. She can go to a comic con here and there sign some autographs. Who wants hers? What? Nothing. She just said who wants hers. Oh, that's mean. I know that's why I said quiet. Sorry. I said it louder.
[01:03:24] I think Hermione is probably my hot tamale. Yeah. Because Emma. Luna too. Yeah. Luna for sure. She was great. Emma. I think she does. Emma is probably her best acted movie, I think. I think
[01:03:36] she just does really well. She has a few small lines like she has the one line that some people rag on. But when she they both find something, Harry comes up with the revelation of the snitch.
[01:03:46] And she's like, Oh, I found something too. And then she looks at Harry after they like have this whole discovery because Ron's still gone. And she just goes, Why don't we just stay here and grow
[01:03:55] old? And you're like, what's a weird line, but I kind of love it. I feel like Hermione. I feel like she delivered that line really well to you're like, believe it. So I kind of like it.
[01:04:04] I think she definitely grew as an actress. Yeah, yeah. And that's and Ron was great too. Yeah, Ron was so good. Yes. I feel like Ron was the most consistent of the kids. He was talented
[01:04:16] from the get go. Yeah. I mean, honestly, he felt like he was a natural. Yeah. Yeah. Hermione grew the most as an actress. Yeah. And then Daniel Radcliffe kind of just stayed the same. Had a
[01:04:28] few like good moments later on, but I think he was pretty consistent. And I can't imagine dealing with the pressure as a kid. Like how do you act in a second movie after you watched the first one
[01:04:40] get so big? And how do you like it would have been crazy. But that's why I feel like Ron had this natural thing about him that just felt so normal. I felt like he was not acting. Do you
[01:04:50] think they'll bring anyone back to the show? I don't think so. I hope not. I hope they I hope they pick all unknown actors, maybe a few like somewhat known ones, but not like crazy, crazy.
[01:05:01] Well, I hope they don't do any. Huh? Yeah, they have to be young. Do they come back those some other characters or something? Yeah. I want them to do like kind of what Game of Thrones it nice
[01:05:12] to be I was really good at this where they find people who are just good actors. And they become super famous. Like if you rewatch Game of Thrones, like Pedro Pascal's in that like these super famous
[01:05:22] people that are great actors now, but they were like undiscovered at the time. And now they're in all sorts of movies and everything. Right. So I think that they're going to do that with Harry
[01:05:31] Potter. And I think they're going to do it really well. They could do like a few good famous ones here and there. But I want them to all be like unknowns. Kind of when it's supposed to come out
[01:05:42] not for another two, three years. I think the writing process probably 2025. I don't think so. I think that's like a pipe dream. I'm hoping maybe it's 2025. But I think they just are firming up the writers and are just starting to write,
[01:05:57] like get the actual written script. So they haven't even started filming yet. They haven't picked the actors yet. One season per book. Is that the idea? Or you don't know? They're they still don't know.
[01:06:06] Oh, there's there's there's a debate on exactly what it is with what they revealed. They're sure yet so right when they figure out the writing, then they kind of like take it. I don't think they should pigeonhole themselves into like anything. Let it be completely free
[01:06:22] and let literally the lead writer be able to decide whatever they want. There needs to be some sort of structure, though. But agree there should be something. But like they had a structure where they're like,
[01:06:32] they want to do five seasons, 10 episodes each season, kind of like a Game of Thrones thing. And I don't think they should follow that because yes, I'm like, I'm like, maybe the structure
[01:06:42] should be seven seasons. And whoever is writing it shouldn't feel like they need to. This is maybe weird, but they shouldn't feel like they need to cut things for like, the sake of they need to fit
[01:06:55] everything in this in this episode. Like Harry Potter fans. This is different from Game of Thrones, Game of Thrones, they had nothing before this. So you're watching this and you're like, you're excited to see every episode with Harry Potter. It's different because we already have
[01:07:08] these movies. And so what they have to do now is like, they should have the writer should have full freedom to be able to like, I want to go on this whole foray onto this character and I want
[01:07:18] to make an hour long episode about like, you know, totally different. Yeah, Lupin's childhood. And like, we'll do like a flashback on Lupin's childhood. And I think that's what Harry Potter fans will eat up. They will love that. Right? And the more content the better. Yeah, exactly. So
[01:07:32] I'm kind of hoping for that. But I just want it to be up to the they need to pick a good writer and I want it to be all up to the writer for how they divide up episodes. A lot of pressure on that
[01:07:42] writer. Dang, I know for sure. But it can't be a corporate thing. Yeah, it can't be the big way. We want this many episodes. That sounds nice. That's when Star Wars screws everything up because
[01:07:52] Star Wars making crap series now. Everyone's all up in arms about the acolyte. Oh, no, I haven't watched it yet. Is it bad? It's the worst. No. It's the worst show. Oh, that's a shame. Yeah.
[01:08:04] I mean, Star Wars community is a little bit more toxic than the Harry Potter community. Why do you say that? They hate everything that Disney is making from Star Wars. Like,
[01:08:15] oh, because it's Disney or well, they just start with I don't know why, but Star Wars fans complain about everything. Like, it doesn't matter what they make. They're going to find complaints about
[01:08:23] it. Like I thought Andor was the best series I've seen for Star Wars in years and people had complaints about that one. So you're never going to please them. Harry Potter. I think it's
[01:08:30] a little different. Hmm. But anyway, any of the any last points? Anything else? It's hard to give like an actual yeah, house cup. Yeah. But a thumbs up or thumbs down in the movie. Thumbs up. Yeah,
[01:08:49] it was a good one, right? Mm hmm. I liked it. So now we have one left. We'll do that soon. We'll talk about it. So thanks for joining us on this journey of Harry Potter and the first time
[01:08:58] readers. Wait, so what do you mean by bonus movies? Like what are they about? I can't tell you what it's about. That's awesome. Okay, so there was a book that Harry had to read in his
[01:09:23] first year or in the third year when he was taking magical creatures, paramagical creatures, and their textbook was called Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. And so the movies are about fantastic beasts and where to find them.