Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Ch 35

[00:00:00] Here is here's a question. We'll start off for tonight.

[00:00:03] Is Harry a better man than Dumbledore?

[00:00:08] Because Dumbledore says it.

[00:00:10] He says he's a better man than he was.

[00:00:13] Well, if if Dumbledore says it, it must be true.

[00:00:21] I think for someone to be able to say that to someone else,

[00:00:23] they're automatically the bigger man. Right.

[00:00:26] So you think Dumbledore is a bigger, bigger man? Yes.

[00:00:28] He's he's messed up.

[00:00:31] He's owned it.

[00:00:33] He's worked against those things as best he knew how to,

[00:00:38] because he's human and flawed.

[00:00:41] That's a big person.

[00:00:43] Yeah, for sure.

[00:00:44] I'm going to keep eating.

[00:00:48] I was like, that goes right with what you were saying before.

[00:00:55] Man, that is tough.

[00:00:57] I still am holding out hope we're going to learn more about Dumbledore

[00:01:01] and his actions in his past.

[00:01:04] Because in the books, there's only one more chapter.

[00:01:08] That's enough time, Jon.

[00:01:11] Just because at the moment, I do think Harry's

[00:01:16] Harry might be the better man, the makings for a better man.

[00:01:20] But I mean, your circumstances shape you.

[00:01:24] I thought we had two more chapters.

[00:01:26] Yeah, there are. But the last one is like a very, very short

[00:01:29] and yeah. Oh, OK.

[00:01:33] All right. Sorry.

[00:01:34] So, yeah. Yeah.

[00:01:37] Who's a better man?

[00:01:38] I don't know.

[00:01:42] Who do you guys think has been the most moral person in the series?

[00:01:44] Well, I think Harry had like he didn't have

[00:01:50] a childhood necessarily,

[00:01:52] and he still chose like the right things to do,

[00:01:55] even though he had really bad role models. So true. So.

[00:02:00] And he also never really he just jumped to action

[00:02:03] and he didn't think through things, but it was always like

[00:02:06] on a selfless most of the time, like his instincts.

[00:02:10] His instincts was I know that he did certain selfish things.

[00:02:13] Yes. But what were selfish things?

[00:02:15] I can't even think of any right now. I know.

[00:02:18] Who? Dumbledore? No, no, Harry.

[00:02:20] I mean, I'm sure he did.

[00:02:21] But like in general, well, he also like brought people to danger.

[00:02:25] Right. When he's like, I see serious black and they go to the Ministry of Magic

[00:02:28] or the you know, the yeah.

[00:02:33] He led them to like death eaters, his friends and him.

[00:02:36] I guess one of the things I've been thinking about shows that.

[00:02:38] Yeah. It's like Dumbledore when he used

[00:02:42] the resurrection stone and it caused his hand to turn black.

[00:02:46] And, you know, they like kind of ultimately caused his death.

[00:02:50] I'm just that's the part that I can't quite understand.

[00:02:53] How bad of a decision it was.

[00:02:56] Did he know that that was potentially risking

[00:02:59] this this end game for Harry and his like kind of journey?

[00:03:05] When he did that, how selfish of a decision was it?

[00:03:08] So he had to pay the price for it.

[00:03:11] But I guess that's one of those weird things where that is a big moment

[00:03:16] in us understanding Dumbledore's current character, not in the past,

[00:03:21] not Ariana, not stuff is when he was a kid.

[00:03:23] But right now.

[00:03:25] And I can't quite decide how selfish that was

[00:03:30] or if it was just a quick little thing.

[00:03:33] He wanted to maybe see his sister again, which would be very normal.

[00:03:36] And then he thought I could do that and then just move on.

[00:03:40] But then it's awesome.

[00:03:41] Could he have moved on how like that's like a loaded question, too,

[00:03:45] because it's like years, right?

[00:03:47] So you're telling you're taking what?

[00:03:48] How old is he? 18 or something?

[00:03:50] An 18 year old versus how old was Dumbledore?

[00:03:54] And his age? We don't really know.

[00:03:55] But yeah, I guess that maybe 80s. Yeah.

[00:03:57] So like what is what is Harry's trajectory of being a good person?

[00:04:04] Well, he has such good instincts and he's willing to die

[00:04:08] at 18 for his his people.

[00:04:11] So I feel like that's yeah.

[00:04:14] I'm just playing both sides. Yeah.

[00:04:15] Yeah. But I just don't know.

[00:04:17] And I would love to see. But there's a redeem.

[00:04:19] But then, oh, my gosh, we're saying so many things.

[00:04:24] So annoying.

[00:04:28] All right, go.

[00:04:30] Yeah, this is your time out, but I'm going to keep tea in my mouth.

[00:04:36] It's probably really hot.

[00:04:40] I was just saying that it's nice that there were seeing like a

[00:04:44] Dumbledore being redeemed of the thing, the

[00:04:47] that hiccups he had and the

[00:04:51] selfish ways he had

[00:04:53] that was revealed somewhat recent. So.

[00:04:59] Yeah, yeah, I my opinion of Dumbledore

[00:05:04] declined in the last

[00:05:06] chapter or two a little bit, not a lot, but just just a little bit

[00:05:10] where I'm like, I'm disappointed.

[00:05:13] I love his honesty.

[00:05:14] He did. He's very self aware.

[00:05:16] He knows that he messed up.

[00:05:19] But I think the part that's strange to me

[00:05:23] is that from what I'm currently seeing,

[00:05:26] I still think everything that happened in Harry's head

[00:05:29] was just in Harry's head.

[00:05:31] So I would love to see something confirming

[00:05:34] that that was something more, something spiritual,

[00:05:37] something where that was maybe actually Dumbledore talking to him.

[00:05:41] I don't know if I would even be satisfying, but

[00:05:44] my the way I read it naturally was just that

[00:05:49] it was all in Harry's head.

[00:05:50] And again, to me, spoke to Harry's character

[00:05:53] that he can give Dumbledore so much credit through all of this

[00:05:56] to give him such

[00:05:59] a good personality, even in his subconscious.

[00:06:01] And that means everything we found out in this chapter

[00:06:04] was Harry's projection of who Dumbledore was,

[00:06:07] but maybe not the reality.

[00:06:09] And so I don't know.

[00:06:12] I'm taking it literally.

[00:06:13] Yeah, but then in Snape's memories,

[00:06:15] I think the Dumbledore we saw just felt a little bit

[00:06:17] a little distant, a little manipulative.

[00:06:20] And I'm still waiting for for something else to you know.

[00:06:23] But then I keep going back, though.

[00:06:25] It's like they were they had to act certain ways,

[00:06:28] like because Voldemort can see people's right. Right.

[00:06:32] So like the way he had to act around Dumbledore,

[00:06:37] Snape had to act around Dumbledore and

[00:06:39] and Dumbledore had to act around Snape. Yeah.

[00:06:42] And that's fine.

[00:06:43] But I would love to see it validated then

[00:06:46] that we see another side of Dumbledore, not just Snape's perspective,

[00:06:50] whether it's through his portrait or a story or something else.

[00:06:53] Or a piece of something.

[00:06:56] So this is another

[00:07:00] actually really quick, let's start the podcast

[00:07:02] because I want to talk about this other point real quick.

[00:07:03] I don't have to interview you so long.

[00:07:06] So welcome to the podcast on John,

[00:07:08] Danny and Kristen.

[00:07:10] And this is Harry Potter and the first time readers.

[00:07:25] So the question that I wanted to talk about was you guys.

[00:07:29] This is I don't want to like rain on the parade a little bit

[00:07:33] because I think the same as you guys, but there is another opinion

[00:07:37] out there that this isn't actually Dumbledore.

[00:07:40] This is like the last line in this chapter.

[00:07:43] Is this real or is this just happening in my head?

[00:07:45] Of course, it's just happening all on your head.

[00:07:47] But why does this make it not real?

[00:07:50] So there's a there's a discussion where this isn't the real Dumbledore

[00:07:56] and Harry is just coming to these realizations himself about things.

[00:07:59] No new information is really given throughout this whole thing.

[00:08:03] A little bit maybe, but there's not a ton of new information

[00:08:05] that's given about it.

[00:08:07] And it's just Dumbledore repeating things and like letting Harry

[00:08:09] come to the realization.

[00:08:11] So is this really Dumbledore?

[00:08:14] Did we do the summary?

[00:08:16] Oh, yeah. Give me a summary.

[00:08:17] Jen, sorry.

[00:08:19] Yeah, what's the summary of this chapter?

[00:08:20] Thank you. Thank you.

[00:08:25] Harry wakes up and he is naked.

[00:08:30] And she's so funny because you're talking about that.

[00:08:34] There's our shirt.

[00:08:35] I know. I don't know.

[00:08:39] And then Dumbledore appears somehow,

[00:08:42] and they're having a conversation kind of going through

[00:08:46] what the events in his life were.

[00:08:49] I don't know.

[00:08:50] And this is why I don't do summaries.

[00:08:53] No, you're good.

[00:08:54] Dumbledore just gives him like an update on his life.

[00:08:56] But then we're wondering if this is really Dumbledore or this is

[00:08:59] Harry just thinking it.

[00:09:02] And then he has a choice at the end, go back to the light

[00:09:06] and live this out, or he could

[00:09:10] go with Dumbledore, whatever that is.

[00:09:12] Go on.

[00:09:13] But apparently Harry is still alive per Dumbledore's

[00:09:17] statements or conversation.

[00:09:20] Anything else I missed?

[00:09:23] That's perfect.

[00:09:24] Imagine how funny that would have been if Harry was actually

[00:09:27] naked on a horse.

[00:09:28] You guys made it so wild for Dixos.

[00:09:31] Oh, my gosh.

[00:09:35] Well, there's a picture of him.

[00:09:36] That's why I thought of it from like a play.

[00:09:39] Exactly.

[00:09:40] I didn't see it.

[00:09:42] I just saw like a poster of it.

[00:09:47] Were you guys actually shocked that Dumbledore was back?

[00:09:50] Like that Harry wakes up and he's like looking around thinking

[00:09:55] it's the Room of Requirement, looks to help this little

[00:09:58] thing that's like crying and moaning.

[00:10:00] Oh, yeah.

[00:10:01] See, I forgot that.

[00:10:02] Yeah.

[00:10:02] There you go.

[00:10:03] We'll give you more updates throughout the episode.

[00:10:06] Don't worry about it.

[00:10:08] Let's see.

[00:10:08] It kept set.

[00:10:09] Yeah, it was kind of funny.

[00:10:11] And then all of a sudden Dumbledore comes.

[00:10:14] So were you guys surprised that Dumbledore was here?

[00:10:16] I was hoping to see him again.

[00:10:18] So I guess I like to.

[00:10:19] Yeah, I think I was surprised in some ways, but it made

[00:10:24] so much sense.

[00:10:26] And in this moment again, feeling like we're in Harry's

[00:10:29] head.

[00:10:30] It's kind of fitting that that's the only person we

[00:10:33] see in some ways.

[00:10:34] So it wasn't shocking, but it was a little surprising.

[00:10:38] I don't know if that even makes sense.

[00:10:40] But yeah, I definitely liked it.

[00:10:43] Comforting.

[00:10:45] Yeah, I love how he greets him too.

[00:10:47] Because he says you cannot help.

[00:10:51] He spun around.

[00:10:52] Elvis Dumbledore was walking toward him, sprightly and

[00:10:55] upright.

[00:10:55] Hands were both whole and white and undamaged.

[00:10:58] You wonderful boy.

[00:11:00] You brave, brave man.

[00:11:01] Let us walk.

[00:11:02] So yeah, do you think that this was actually in Harry's

[00:11:14] head only or was this some other like limbo realm?

[00:11:18] I want it to be a limbo realm.

[00:11:23] Yeah, same.

[00:11:23] And I think it can be but I don't think it is.

[00:11:30] I need something more and I was hoping we would get

[00:11:34] some information in this chapter that was new information

[00:11:40] that Harry could not have come up with in his head.

[00:11:42] Even if we don't know it yet, that could be confirmed

[00:11:45] in the next chapter, which would then be the moment of

[00:11:47] oh my goodness that really was Dumbledore in some kind

[00:11:50] of limbo, you know, heaven or whatever it would be.

[00:11:56] But it's weird for the first time he wished he were

[00:11:59] clothed barely had the wish formed in his head then

[00:12:01] robes appeared a short distance away.

[00:12:04] That sounds like stuff that would be in his head,

[00:12:06] but it also could be in limbo.

[00:12:08] Yeah, for sure.

[00:12:08] So I am left in both ways, but I'm just going

[00:12:12] with my gut of the this being his head.

[00:12:14] I like that he was naked because I'm thinking of like

[00:12:24] if it was like a heavenly realm, it's like your purest

[00:12:28] form of like a body.

[00:12:30] Right.

[00:12:30] Maybe.

[00:12:31] Oh, okay.

[00:12:32] Yeah.

[00:12:32] That's how I thought of that.

[00:12:33] He doesn't have his scar, right?

[00:12:35] That's yeah.

[00:12:36] Like he tries to feel for a scar and it's not there.

[00:12:38] So when he comes back is he going to have a scar?

[00:12:40] That's kind of weird.

[00:12:42] No, because it's real.

[00:12:45] It's not in his head and regardless of it was in his head

[00:12:48] or not.

[00:12:49] It's not in his head anymore because he's not a horcrux.

[00:12:52] Well, I was just thinking that that that's more limbo

[00:12:56] than head if he doesn't have the scar because he's

[00:12:59] never even seen himself without a scar.

[00:13:01] Yeah, but if your head can conjure Dumbledore,

[00:13:03] I guess you can conjure a face with no scar.

[00:13:05] But then shouldn't his scar be even bigger when he

[00:13:07] goes back to reality because no, because it's getting

[00:13:11] away a whole dark Lord got pulled out of his

[00:13:13] forehead.

[00:13:19] It's not a magical mark anymore and then it could just

[00:13:21] be a scar but I guess it's gonna be like a Mad Eye Moody.

[00:13:27] Someone wants me to ask you think Mad Eye Moody is

[00:13:29] going to come back to any.

[00:13:30] I want him to.

[00:13:32] Well now he's going to show up in the battle last

[00:13:34] minute because back then that was back when people

[00:13:36] didn't die, you know, series was a one-off.

[00:13:38] But now everybody dies.

[00:13:39] It's like, oh goodness.

[00:13:41] You know what?

[00:13:42] Weirdly enough, there's still hope for him more hope

[00:13:44] for him than these other people like Colin or Tonks

[00:13:48] or Lupin or Fred, Dabi.

[00:13:52] So is it possible that everyone could come back?

[00:13:56] Yeah, it is because time turners, but I don't think

[00:13:59] so.

[00:14:02] Yeah, so yeah, and that one line.

[00:14:05] You know what?

[00:14:06] That was barely even a line.

[00:14:07] It would cheapen the whole story and I don't think

[00:14:10] people would love this story as much if she did

[00:14:13] anything like that.

[00:14:14] It's satisfying in the short term, but the story

[00:14:18] wouldn't have as much staying power because it's

[00:14:20] kind of a cheap literary device to like, you know,

[00:14:25] but no offense JK.

[00:14:26] If that's what you did, I'd still be happy.

[00:14:28] But no, I don't think she would do that and

[00:14:30] that's the only way I can think of.

[00:14:32] I'm still holding out a little hope for Lupin

[00:14:34] and Tonks.

[00:14:35] Harry never asked them what happened.

[00:14:37] They could have been petrified.

[00:14:38] They could have been something else.

[00:14:41] So there's like the tiniest bit of hope for them.

[00:14:43] Danny in the forest again Lupin was there.

[00:14:47] Yeah, you're right that stinks but talks wasn't

[00:14:50] there.

[00:14:52] Yeah, you're right.

[00:14:53] There's so basically Jen to answer your question.

[00:14:56] I think they're all dead, but Moody actually

[00:14:58] could be alive.

[00:15:01] Go all the way around circle to get there.

[00:15:05] If they came back, they wouldn't like if Harry

[00:15:08] is he going to use a resurrection stone?

[00:15:12] They're not truly back.

[00:15:13] Like they're not gonna yeah.

[00:15:14] Yeah, exactly.

[00:15:15] It's not worth it.

[00:15:16] That's why there's a great line in this one.

[00:15:17] Dumbledore talks to Harry and he says you

[00:15:19] wanted to bring these people back to accompany

[00:15:21] you in your death to like go meet them rather

[00:15:23] than Dumbledore who wants to bring them back to

[00:15:25] alleviate him from doing extra work.

[00:15:28] So it's just a different motive and that's why

[00:15:31] Harry was able to bring him back and that's

[00:15:32] why they're yeah.

[00:15:33] The only other option is if all of the Hallows

[00:15:37] together really does give Harry that power, but

[00:15:41] that feels too weird.

[00:15:45] I just don't know exactly how that would work

[00:15:48] and that would be beyond anything we've seen

[00:15:51] but I forget what the in the story how it

[00:15:54] was explained when you have all the Hallows

[00:15:56] together.

[00:15:59] But all that like we said in the last podcast

[00:16:01] all the Hallows are in this one circle.

[00:16:06] So there is some kind of possibility there

[00:16:09] but there has to be a limit to that.

[00:16:11] You can't just be magical like bring everybody

[00:16:13] back to life.

[00:16:15] I don't think his parents would come back.

[00:16:18] I don't think Sirius would come back.

[00:16:20] I don't I don't think.

[00:16:23] What is this last time picturing that died

[00:16:26] memory out of the wand it like gate like

[00:16:30] yeah, last few people that last more come back.

[00:16:34] Interesting.

[00:16:34] Yeah, it's coming back guys.

[00:16:37] Hey, now you cheer.

[00:16:41] Yeah, kind of kind of I always take up for

[00:16:47] him.

[00:16:48] I did cheer when he died.

[00:16:49] Yeah, I still have mixed feelings about him

[00:16:51] but but I like them.

[00:16:53] Okay.

[00:16:53] Do you guys this is one of the lines that

[00:16:55] we get to and I want to actually get a

[00:16:57] talk if you actually understand this line.

[00:16:59] Says but Harry raised his hand instinctively

[00:17:01] toward the lightning scar.

[00:17:02] It did not seem to be there

[00:17:05] but I should have died.

[00:17:05] I didn't defend myself.

[00:17:07] I meant to let him kill me and that

[00:17:09] said Dumbledore will I think have made

[00:17:12] all the difference

[00:17:14] and then later on we're talking about

[00:17:15] this and he says he took my blood

[00:17:17] said Harry precisely said Dumbledore.

[00:17:20] He took your blood and rebuilt his living

[00:17:22] body with it.

[00:17:24] Your blood in his veins Harry Lily's

[00:17:26] protection inside both of you.

[00:17:27] He tethered you to life while he lives.

[00:17:31] So do you actually got do you get do

[00:17:32] you get why Harry didn't fully die?

[00:17:37] Isn't really did a horcrux in a

[00:17:39] way.

[00:17:40] Yeah, Voldemort's body.

[00:17:42] Yep, but then that makes it weird

[00:17:44] too because now okay.

[00:17:46] So it's kind of like he's doing

[00:17:48] what Voldemort

[00:17:51] was able to come back.

[00:17:53] Let's say he did die

[00:17:54] but he could come back because he's

[00:17:56] tethered is that

[00:17:57] how Voldemort was when he was like

[00:17:59] destroyed

[00:18:01] into nothing.

[00:18:03] Yeah, and then came back slowly

[00:18:06] like I wonder if that's

[00:18:10] yeah, I think so his little realm

[00:18:13] of limbo between the world.

[00:18:17] Yeah.

[00:18:19] That's actually an interesting

[00:18:20] question.

[00:18:21] Yeah,

[00:18:22] because it kind of seems similar.

[00:18:25] So then it's like he's

[00:18:27] tethered to

[00:18:29] but then I'm so confused because

[00:18:30] then they both died seems like

[00:18:32] we who like if

[00:18:36] Voldemort tried to kill Harry

[00:18:37] and couldn't kill Harry.

[00:18:40] Harry can try to kill Voldemort

[00:18:43] only after Nagini is done.

[00:18:45] But they're still attached.

[00:18:47] No, no, they aren't anymore

[00:18:49] because this attack from

[00:18:51] Voldemort to Harry

[00:18:53] killed the scar right killed

[00:18:56] Harry attached broke the

[00:18:57] Horcrux the tether in my

[00:18:59] mind that's how it went.

[00:19:00] Harry's blood and Voldemort

[00:19:02] he didn't fully die and

[00:19:03] Voldemort maybe doesn't even

[00:19:05] realize that Voldemort is now

[00:19:07] the Horcrux for Harry in

[00:19:09] the same way that Harry used

[00:19:10] to be the Horcrux for

[00:19:11] Voldemort.

[00:19:11] You could still kill Voldemort

[00:19:14] and it wouldn't kill Harry

[00:19:15] now,

[00:19:16] right, but it would kill the

[00:19:18] Horcrux that Voldemort is

[00:19:20] like it would kill Voldemort

[00:19:21] and the Horcrux then Harry

[00:19:22] would have no more tethers.

[00:19:23] Here's the next question though

[00:19:25] Voldemort uses Avada Kedavra

[00:19:26] on Harry and then

[00:19:29] the Horcrux is killed.

[00:19:30] What if now there's still a

[00:19:32] Horcrux of Harry residing in

[00:19:34] Voldemort?

[00:19:34] What if Harry tries to kill

[00:19:35] Voldemort and all of a

[00:19:36] sudden Voldemort is transferred

[00:19:38] to this

[00:19:40] realm and he doesn't kill

[00:19:41] the snake yet.

[00:19:42] Yeah, exactly.

[00:19:43] If he doesn't kill Nagini

[00:19:44] first.

[00:19:44] Does Voldemort not fully

[00:19:46] die?

[00:19:47] If even if Harry kills him

[00:19:49] even if he kills a snake

[00:19:51] and then Harry kills

[00:19:52] Voldemort

[00:19:54] does Harry hit his own

[00:19:56] Horcrux and destroy his own

[00:19:57] Horcrux and Voldemort is still

[00:19:59] there.

[00:20:01] The sequel!

[00:20:01] He almost has to double

[00:20:03] kill, double attack.

[00:20:04] He's got to.

[00:20:06] And it has to be Nagini

[00:20:08] first in my mind and we

[00:20:10] can hope that Ron

[00:20:11] Hermione and Neville are

[00:20:12] either working on this now

[00:20:13] or this is real time.

[00:20:15] That he's like leave it

[00:20:16] don't touch it.

[00:20:17] I think that represents

[00:20:18] Voldemort the Horcrux the

[00:20:19] scar right?

[00:20:20] That's what I thought too.

[00:20:25] I feel like it would be really

[00:20:27] bad for Harry if

[00:20:29] he killed Voldemort first

[00:20:30] without Nagini because

[00:20:33] Voldemort if he has been

[00:20:34] in this state before

[00:20:36] where he has a tether

[00:20:37] a Horcrux

[00:20:40] he's gonna know what to do

[00:20:41] even quicker.

[00:20:41] He'll be familiar with it.

[00:20:43] I've been here before time

[00:20:44] for me to go back.

[00:20:45] I'm going to go to the

[00:20:46] light.

[00:20:46] I'm gonna whatever Nagini

[00:20:47] can't protect itself.

[00:20:50] I mean, he's like a pretty

[00:20:52] cool snake.

[00:20:52] Magical too.

[00:20:53] I mean, it's got to be able

[00:20:54] to do something and there are

[00:20:55] Death Eaters around too.

[00:20:56] It's not like

[00:20:58] yeah, but they're not going

[00:20:58] to think to protect the snake.

[00:21:00] Yeah, it's true.

[00:21:01] But is Nagini still in the

[00:21:03] protective cage?

[00:21:04] Let's say he is when you

[00:21:06] go to kill Voldemort.

[00:21:07] Don't you think that's

[00:21:08] gonna disappear?

[00:21:11] No.

[00:21:14] That wouldn't surprise me

[00:21:15] but I didn't think that it

[00:21:16] would and then like how

[00:21:17] does he get to Nagini?

[00:21:19] Like what does that even

[00:21:20] look like?

[00:21:21] I don't know.

[00:21:21] Like it's that nasty little

[00:21:23] like thing that's described

[00:21:25] in this chapter that starts

[00:21:26] to like become stronger.

[00:21:28] Yeah, that's a great question.

[00:21:30] Wait, if Harry does go

[00:21:31] back.

[00:21:33] Does he get to go to

[00:21:34] his own body?

[00:21:35] Does he get to choose?

[00:21:36] Because Voldemort couldn't

[00:21:38] because his body didn't

[00:21:39] exist anymore, right?

[00:21:40] But then he went into

[00:21:41] snakes and went out to

[00:21:43] Eastern Europe.

[00:21:45] So

[00:21:47] I think that's just a

[00:21:47] funny part of it where

[00:21:49] I'm assuming Harry goes

[00:21:50] back into his own body,

[00:21:51] but he also could go into

[00:21:52] some critter.

[00:21:54] I think and then destroy

[00:21:55] internally.

[00:21:56] Whoa, eat Voldemort.

[00:22:01] It sounds like a story

[00:22:02] from my preschooler.

[00:22:04] Literally.

[00:22:06] Sounds like a story about

[00:22:08] like the princess being eaten

[00:22:09] by something.

[00:22:10] Wow, classic.

[00:22:12] Well, I think it's a great

[00:22:14] story.

[00:22:15] Harry could go into

[00:22:17] crookshanks

[00:22:19] or we could do a

[00:22:21] hippogriff callback.

[00:22:22] But I think because

[00:22:23] Harry's body is still there,

[00:22:25] he would go back into

[00:22:26] his own body.

[00:22:27] How do we know it's still

[00:22:28] there? Because

[00:22:29] didn't Voldemort

[00:22:30] Yeah,

[00:22:31] I got the name wrong.

[00:22:33] Mostly just because

[00:22:36] we took a peek at the

[00:22:38] picture of the last

[00:22:39] I don't even remember it.

[00:22:40] Yeah, me either.

[00:22:41] I mean, that's what I

[00:22:42] remember now.

[00:22:45] So you're going off the

[00:22:46] picture now.

[00:22:46] Yeah, you converted to

[00:22:47] me.

[00:22:49] Wow.

[00:22:50] Wait, what was the deal

[00:22:51] with the picture?

[00:22:52] Well, just because

[00:22:52] Jen always peeks and I

[00:22:53] didn't like using it.

[00:22:54] It's like using outside

[00:22:55] information for the

[00:22:56] next chapter.

[00:22:57] So I shouldn't really

[00:22:58] allow it to enter my

[00:22:59] mind during this

[00:22:59] chapter.

[00:23:00] But what is the

[00:23:00] chapter called?

[00:23:01] No,

[00:23:02] it's too late.

[00:23:04] All right.

[00:23:04] I guess we could look.

[00:23:05] No, I won't.

[00:23:07] That's not even

[00:23:08] anything.

[00:23:09] Yeah, but I think

[00:23:12] that

[00:23:15] Harry will choose

[00:23:18] Earth.

[00:23:18] He will go back into

[00:23:19] his body

[00:23:20] and then be able to

[00:23:21] try again.

[00:23:22] And like we were

[00:23:23] saying,

[00:23:24] he will still have

[00:23:26] the Voldemort

[00:23:26] Horcrux,

[00:23:27] which is also

[00:23:28] weird because

[00:23:29] Voldemort won't

[00:23:29] realize that Harry

[00:23:30] could just keep

[00:23:31] unlimited lives.

[00:23:32] You know what I

[00:23:33] mean?

[00:23:35] He could just keep

[00:23:35] dying.

[00:23:36] He's got the

[00:23:36] Horcrux.

[00:23:38] Voldemort keeps

[00:23:38] trying to kill him.

[00:23:39] He just respawns

[00:23:40] every time like

[00:23:41] I'm a pro.

[00:23:42] What you got?

[00:23:43] Oh,

[00:23:43] he just keeps

[00:23:44] doing it.

[00:23:44] You make a great

[00:23:45] parody.

[00:23:45] Someone needs to

[00:23:46] parody that on

[00:23:46] YouTube.

[00:23:47] Voldemort keeps

[00:23:48] trying to kill

[00:23:48] Harry and he just

[00:23:49] can't die.

[00:23:49] It's like Harry

[00:23:50] can't lose,

[00:23:50] especially if

[00:23:52] Voldemort doesn't

[00:23:52] realize.

[00:23:53] So in the

[00:23:53] process of trying

[00:23:54] to kill Nagini,

[00:23:55] he could just,

[00:23:56] you know,

[00:23:57] kind of

[00:23:58] go for it.

[00:23:58] Like risk it all.

[00:23:59] Yeah,

[00:23:59] he can do

[00:24:00] some moves that

[00:24:01] wouldn't be

[00:24:01] prudent in

[00:24:01] other battles

[00:24:02] knowing that death

[00:24:03] is not an

[00:24:04] issue for him.

[00:24:06] But what I was

[00:24:07] thinking too is

[00:24:08] that remember these

[00:24:09] ghosts that were

[00:24:10] in the school?

[00:24:11] It was like they

[00:24:12] had a decision

[00:24:13] where they can

[00:24:13] stay or they

[00:24:15] can move on and

[00:24:16] I'm like wait,

[00:24:16] is Harry

[00:24:17] gonna be a

[00:24:17] ghost now?

[00:24:18] But he has a

[00:24:19] Horcrux so

[00:24:19] he's tethered,

[00:24:20] but maybe that's

[00:24:21] what happens to

[00:24:22] the ghosts.

[00:24:22] Like if they're

[00:24:23] full of enough

[00:24:23] like bitterness

[00:24:24] or hope for

[00:24:25] revenge,

[00:24:27] they don't

[00:24:27] move on.

[00:24:28] They're like no,

[00:24:28] I'll stay on

[00:24:29] earth even though

[00:24:29] I don't have a

[00:24:30] body or like

[00:24:30] anything.

[00:24:31] But then maybe

[00:24:32] that's when

[00:24:32] they get trapped.

[00:24:33] I don't know.

[00:24:34] Yeah,

[00:24:35] honestly,

[00:24:35] this is like

[00:24:36] good ghost

[00:24:36] lore.

[00:24:37] This could

[00:24:37] potentially be

[00:24:38] how ghosts are

[00:24:39] made.

[00:24:40] It's interesting.

[00:24:41] I really

[00:24:41] thought about

[00:24:41] that.

[00:24:43] Yeah,

[00:24:44] you're welcome.

[00:24:45] You guys

[00:24:45] helped me

[00:24:46] find new

[00:24:47] things.

[00:24:47] Nice.

[00:24:49] So there is

[00:24:50] another strange

[00:24:50] line that I

[00:24:51] asked our

[00:24:52] people on

[00:24:52] Discord because

[00:24:53] I didn't quite

[00:24:53] understand this one.

[00:24:54] I don't want to

[00:24:55] talk about it.

[00:24:55] And it's just

[00:24:56] like a weird

[00:24:57] theory that

[00:24:57] I kind of

[00:24:58] came up with.

[00:24:59] But it said,

[00:25:00] I believe

[00:25:00] that your

[00:25:00] wand imbibed

[00:25:01] some of the

[00:25:02] power and

[00:25:02] qualities of

[00:25:03] Voldemort's

[00:25:03] wand that

[00:25:04] night,

[00:25:04] which is

[00:25:04] to say

[00:25:05] that it

[00:25:05] contained a

[00:25:06] little of

[00:25:06] Voldemort

[00:25:06] himself.

[00:25:07] So your

[00:25:07] wand recognized

[00:25:08] him when

[00:25:09] he pursued

[00:25:09] you,

[00:25:09] recognized

[00:25:10] the man who

[00:25:10] was both

[00:25:11] kin and

[00:25:11] mortal enemy

[00:25:12] and regurgitated

[00:25:13] some of his

[00:25:13] own magic

[00:25:14] against him.

[00:25:15] Magic much

[00:25:15] more powerful

[00:25:16] than anything

[00:25:16] Lucius's

[00:25:17] wand had

[00:25:17] ever performed.

[00:25:19] Your

[00:25:19] wand now

[00:25:19] contained

[00:25:24] what chance

[00:25:25] of that

[00:25:25] poor death

[00:25:25] stick or

[00:25:26] what chance

[00:25:27] of that

[00:25:27] poor stick of

[00:25:27] Lucius's

[00:25:28] Malfoy

[00:25:28] stand.

[00:25:31] There is

[00:25:31] this line

[00:25:32] where it

[00:25:32] says,

[00:25:33] he says

[00:25:34] Voldemort's

[00:25:34] wand that

[00:25:35] night,

[00:25:35] which is

[00:25:35] to say

[00:25:36] contained a

[00:25:36] little of

[00:25:37] Voldemort

[00:25:37] himself.

[00:25:38] So

[00:25:39] temporarily

[00:25:40] was Harry's

[00:25:41] wand a

[00:25:42] corkrux

[00:25:42] for

[00:25:42] Voldemort?

[00:25:44] Did

[00:25:44] Voldemort

[00:25:44] really

[00:25:45] split his

[00:25:45] soul into

[00:25:45] eight

[00:25:46] accidentally

[00:25:47] with this?

[00:25:48] Wouldn't that

[00:25:48] be nine?

[00:25:51] No,

[00:25:51] because Harry

[00:25:51] was a

[00:25:53] Harry's

[00:25:54] the seventh.

[00:25:55] Yeah,

[00:25:55] but what

[00:25:55] about himself?

[00:25:57] Voldemort

[00:25:57] himself?

[00:25:58] Yeah,

[00:25:58] I guess

[00:25:59] I guess

[00:25:59] then

[00:26:00] that would be nine.

[00:26:01] Voldemort

[00:26:01] himself.

[00:26:02] Yeah.

[00:26:04] Because his

[00:26:04] soul should

[00:26:05] be in there.

[00:26:05] Yeah,

[00:26:05] and he

[00:26:06] technically is

[00:26:06] a horcrux,

[00:26:07] but a

[00:26:07] horcrux

[00:26:07] for Harry.

[00:26:08] So I

[00:26:08] guess

[00:26:09] you can't

[00:26:09] just say

[00:26:09] that.

[00:26:10] But

[00:26:11] Harry's

[00:26:11] wand is

[00:26:11] destroyed.

[00:26:12] So I'm

[00:26:12] like

[00:26:12] maybe

[00:26:14] maybe

[00:26:15] it's

[00:26:16] shocking

[00:26:16] that

[00:26:17] Harry's

[00:26:18] wand was

[00:26:18] a

[00:26:18] horcrux

[00:26:19] at some

[00:26:19] point and

[00:26:19] accidentally

[00:26:21] it got

[00:26:21] destroyed.

[00:26:23] Luckily,

[00:26:23] because maybe

[00:26:24] there was a

[00:26:24] piece of

[00:26:25] Voldemort's

[00:26:25] soul residing

[00:26:26] in it.

[00:26:28] It feels

[00:26:29] funny because

[00:26:29] I guess

[00:26:30] I thought

[00:26:30] of it as

[00:26:31] being

[00:26:32] because

[00:26:32] Harry

[00:26:33] had the

[00:26:33] horcrux.

[00:26:34] That's

[00:26:34] why some

[00:26:35] of

[00:26:35] Voldemort

[00:26:35] was coming

[00:26:36] through

[00:26:37] through

[00:26:37] the

[00:26:37] the Harry

[00:26:38] scar

[00:26:39] rather

[00:26:39] than it

[00:26:40] being

[00:26:40] like

[00:26:40] the

[00:26:40] wand,

[00:26:41] but

[00:26:42] the

[00:26:42] wand

[00:26:42] lore is

[00:26:43] still

[00:26:43] so

[00:26:44] complex,

[00:26:45] but I'm

[00:26:45] not sure

[00:26:46] I understand.

[00:26:47] So

[00:26:48] it is

[00:26:48] intriguing to

[00:26:49] think that.

[00:26:53] But it

[00:26:53] feels like

[00:26:54] he took

[00:26:54] power

[00:26:55] well, I guess that's

[00:26:55] the whole point.

[00:26:56] He took

[00:26:56] power

[00:26:58] the first

[00:26:58] time they

[00:26:59] interacted

[00:26:59] the wands.

[00:27:01] Right?

[00:27:02] I think

[00:27:03] yeah,

[00:27:03] because

[00:27:04] his wand

[00:27:07] defeated.

[00:27:09] Yeah,

[00:27:10] and all

[00:27:10] the past

[00:27:12] people that

[00:27:13] were killed

[00:27:13] kind of

[00:27:14] like came

[00:27:14] out of

[00:27:15] the wand.

[00:27:16] So I

[00:27:16] wondered if

[00:27:17] he just

[00:27:17] like instead

[00:27:18] of it being

[00:27:18] a horcrux,

[00:27:19] he just

[00:27:19] sucked some

[00:27:20] of the

[00:27:20] power out

[00:27:21] of him.

[00:27:23] Yeah,

[00:27:23] I kind of

[00:27:23] like that.

[00:27:24] I think

[00:27:24] that's probably

[00:27:25] more what the

[00:27:25] reading is to

[00:27:26] be completely honest.

[00:27:27] He just

[00:27:27] like took

[00:27:28] some of his

[00:27:28] power rather

[00:27:29] than like the

[00:27:29] actual soul

[00:27:30] didn't really

[00:27:31] make a

[00:27:31] horcrux.

[00:27:31] Yeah, instead of

[00:27:32] like part of

[00:27:32] him it was

[00:27:33] like more like

[00:27:34] his magic

[00:27:34] than like

[00:27:35] his essence

[00:27:35] or something

[00:27:36] like that.

[00:27:36] Yeah.

[00:27:37] And like the

[00:27:37] courage

[00:27:38] element is

[00:27:40] he

[00:27:40] embraced

[00:27:41] the

[00:27:41] possibility

[00:27:42] of death

[00:27:43] something

[00:27:44] Voldemort

[00:27:44] has never

[00:27:45] been able

[00:27:45] to do.

[00:27:46] So

[00:27:48] I feel

[00:27:48] like that's

[00:27:49] part of it too.

[00:27:49] Plus the love and

[00:27:50] ancient magic.

[00:27:50] Well,

[00:27:51] yeah,

[00:27:51] Harry's got it all

[00:27:51] going for him.

[00:27:52] Yeah.

[00:27:54] So I think

[00:27:54] that's a

[00:27:55] funny thing

[00:27:55] that Voldemort

[00:27:56] has truly

[00:27:57] been afraid

[00:27:58] of death.

[00:27:59] Yeah,

[00:27:59] his whole life

[00:28:01] and multiple

[00:28:02] times

[00:28:03] Harry has

[00:28:03] been willing

[00:28:04] to die.

[00:28:06] Because in the

[00:28:06] same way his

[00:28:06] mother did

[00:28:07] and that's

[00:28:07] what saved him.

[00:28:08] So I feel

[00:28:09] like that

[00:28:09] that courage

[00:28:10] again in

[00:28:11] the wands

[00:28:11] that's a

[00:28:12] victory in itself

[00:28:13] going into

[00:28:13] something with

[00:28:13] that courage.

[00:28:14] Yeah,

[00:28:16] because he

[00:28:16] knows that

[00:28:17] you know like

[00:28:17] death isn't

[00:28:18] the end

[00:28:18] which is

[00:28:19] a great

[00:28:20] concept for

[00:28:21] this

[00:28:22] for Harry

[00:28:22] like he

[00:28:22] just willingly

[00:28:23] marches to

[00:28:23] death even

[00:28:24] in that moment

[00:28:25] when he's

[00:28:25] like he

[00:28:26] if you

[00:28:27] reread that

[00:28:28] Harry is

[00:28:28] literally

[00:28:29] ready to

[00:28:29] die.

[00:28:30] He's like

[00:28:30] this is it

[00:28:31] and he like

[00:28:31] almost accepts

[00:28:32] it.

[00:28:33] And then

[00:28:33] that's when

[00:28:34] the wand

[00:28:34] starts

[00:28:35] working its

[00:28:35] magic which

[00:28:36] is pretty

[00:28:36] crazy.

[00:28:37] It's like

[00:28:37] again,

[00:28:37] a second

[00:28:38] read is

[00:28:38] so much

[00:28:39] fun because

[00:28:39] you recognize

[00:28:39] so much

[00:28:40] stuff that

[00:28:40] comes up.

[00:28:41] It's great.

[00:28:43] But

[00:28:44] this the

[00:28:45] bulk of

[00:28:45] this chapter

[00:28:46] was a lot of

[00:28:46] Grindelwald

[00:28:47] and Harry

[00:28:47] or Dumbledore

[00:28:48] information.

[00:28:49] And do

[00:28:49] you guys

[00:28:50] get all

[00:28:50] that?

[00:28:50] Do you have

[00:28:52] Dumbledore and

[00:28:53] Grindelwald?

[00:28:55] Because they

[00:28:55] brought up

[00:28:56] like a lot of

[00:28:56] the points

[00:28:56] like what

[00:28:57] is what is

[00:28:58] let me just

[00:28:59] quiz you.

[00:28:59] What is

[00:28:59] Dumbledore's

[00:29:00] greatest

[00:29:02] like I guess

[00:29:03] for Grette

[00:29:03] or like

[00:29:04] unknown.

[00:29:05] Whether

[00:29:06] he or

[00:29:07] Grindelwald

[00:29:07] was the one

[00:29:08] who killed

[00:29:08] Ariane.

[00:29:09] Yeah,

[00:29:09] for sure.

[00:29:10] Yeah.

[00:29:12] And then

[00:29:12] they were

[00:29:13] friends

[00:29:14] but then

[00:29:14] they saw

[00:29:15] things differently

[00:29:16] when it

[00:29:17] came to

[00:29:18] the Muggle

[00:29:19] born

[00:29:20] Muggles.

[00:29:22] And then

[00:29:23] kind of

[00:29:24] they had a

[00:29:25] fight.

[00:29:25] I don't know.

[00:29:26] Yeah,

[00:29:27] they kind

[00:29:27] of saw

[00:29:28] things

[00:29:28] differently

[00:29:29] but they

[00:29:30] Dumbledore

[00:29:30] kind of

[00:29:31] just acquiesced

[00:29:31] like he was

[00:29:32] plugging his

[00:29:32] ears at

[00:29:33] certain things

[00:29:34] like it

[00:29:34] said that

[00:29:35] Grindelwald

[00:29:36] wanted the

[00:29:37] resurrection

[00:29:37] stone to

[00:29:38] make an

[00:29:38] inferior

[00:29:38] army.

[00:29:39] And it

[00:29:39] was like

[00:29:40] Dumbledore

[00:29:40] just kind

[00:29:40] of ignored

[00:29:41] that fact

[00:29:42] because he

[00:29:42] wanted it

[00:29:43] to resurrect

[00:29:43] his family

[00:29:44] members

[00:29:45] probably for

[00:29:45] the wrong

[00:29:46] reasons.

[00:29:46] Yeah.

[00:29:50] Yeah,

[00:29:50] so he kind

[00:29:50] of like plugged

[00:29:51] his ears

[00:29:51] on a lot of

[00:29:51] stuff until

[00:29:52] one point where

[00:29:53] there was just a

[00:29:53] falling out

[00:29:54] between

[00:29:56] Aberforth,

[00:29:56] Dumbledore,

[00:29:57] and

[00:29:57] Grindelwald.

[00:29:58] And then

[00:29:58] he doesn't

[00:29:59] know who's

[00:29:59] curse killed

[00:30:00] Ariana

[00:30:01] which is

[00:30:02] pretty tough.

[00:30:07] But yeah,

[00:30:08] there's

[00:30:08] not a

[00:30:08] That's

[00:30:09] why he

[00:30:09] wanted

[00:30:10] but why were

[00:30:11] they hunting

[00:30:12] the Hallows

[00:30:12] to begin

[00:30:13] with though

[00:30:13] because of

[00:30:16] they

[00:30:16] wanted

[00:30:18] to

[00:30:18] create

[00:30:19] their own

[00:30:19] art

[00:30:19] like what

[00:30:20] was it?

[00:30:21] Wait,

[00:30:21] who?

[00:30:21] Dumbledore?

[00:30:22] Well,

[00:30:22] both of

[00:30:22] them.

[00:30:23] They both

[00:30:23] found out about

[00:30:24] the Hallows.

[00:30:25] So like

[00:30:25] what was

[00:30:25] the purpose of

[00:30:26] collecting all

[00:30:27] them?

[00:30:27] Well,

[00:30:28] you say both

[00:30:28] of them.

[00:30:29] Oh,

[00:30:29] because I

[00:30:29] in my mind

[00:30:30] Voldemort

[00:30:30] wasn't looking

[00:30:31] for the

[00:30:31] Hallows

[00:30:31] just the

[00:30:32] one.

[00:30:32] I know

[00:30:33] you're

[00:30:33] saying Dumbledore

[00:30:34] and

[00:30:34] Harry?

[00:30:34] No,

[00:30:35] Grindel,

[00:30:35] Grindel.

[00:30:36] Oh,

[00:30:36] oh,

[00:30:37] because they

[00:30:37] wanted to

[00:30:39] have the

[00:30:39] power of

[00:30:40] them.

[00:30:40] But what

[00:30:40] was the

[00:30:40] reason?

[00:30:41] Yeah,

[00:30:41] yeah,

[00:30:42] because it

[00:30:42] seemed

[00:30:42] like they

[00:30:43] had this

[00:30:43] plan

[00:30:45] and it

[00:30:45] was like

[00:30:46] for the

[00:30:47] greater

[00:30:47] good

[00:30:48] and the

[00:30:48] muggles

[00:30:49] but like

[00:30:49] what was

[00:30:50] and they

[00:30:51] found out

[00:30:51] about the

[00:30:51] Hallows

[00:30:52] and then

[00:30:56] to find

[00:30:57] these things

[00:30:59] for what?

[00:31:00] Yeah,

[00:31:00] like what

[00:31:01] would that

[00:31:01] have done

[00:31:01] to accomplish

[00:31:02] their

[00:31:03] their goals?

[00:31:05] You ask

[00:31:05] great

[00:31:06] questions

[00:31:06] and because

[00:31:07] you're

[00:31:08] like what

[00:31:08] the heck is

[00:31:09] the purpose

[00:31:09] of all this?

[00:31:10] You're

[00:31:10] the ongoing

[00:31:11] question.

[00:31:11] Why does

[00:31:11] anybody follow

[00:31:12] Dumbledore?

[00:31:13] It's a

[00:31:13] fascinating

[00:31:13] question that

[00:31:14] no one

[00:31:14] has answered

[00:31:15] to because like

[00:31:15] people just

[00:31:16] follow

[00:31:16] them because

[00:31:16] of power.

[00:31:17] Why were

[00:31:17] Dumbledore

[00:31:18] and

[00:31:19] Abra or

[00:31:19] why were

[00:31:20] Dumbledore

[00:31:20] and Grindel

[00:31:20] Vold after

[00:31:21] the

[00:31:21] the

[00:31:22] Horcruxes?

[00:31:23] Hallows?

[00:31:24] You have

[00:31:24] the

[00:31:24] Hallows?

[00:31:25] Just power.

[00:31:26] They wanted

[00:31:27] power for

[00:31:27] whatever reason

[00:31:28] they wanted

[00:31:29] power for.

[00:31:29] Young Pride.

[00:31:30] Yeah,

[00:31:31] for really.

[00:31:31] Yeah,

[00:31:31] Young Pride and

[00:31:32] there's not really

[00:31:32] like a

[00:31:33] clear-cut

[00:31:33] answer to that.

[00:31:34] It's like

[00:31:34] why do you

[00:31:35] want power

[00:31:35] in this

[00:31:35] situation?

[00:31:37] To get

[00:31:38] power.

[00:31:38] I don't know.

[00:31:39] For power

[00:31:39] sake.

[00:31:40] Yeah, for power

[00:31:40] sake.

[00:31:40] Like Dumbledore

[00:31:41] I don't know if they had the next step in their plan.

[00:31:46] Yeah,

[00:31:47] like step one

[00:31:47] get power

[00:31:48] after that

[00:31:49] use power,

[00:31:50] you know,

[00:31:51] like and then

[00:31:51] they have

[00:31:51] like vague

[00:31:52] ideas of

[00:31:53] like what

[00:31:54] they wanted

[00:31:54] to do

[00:31:55] and come out of

[00:31:56] hiding and

[00:31:56] whatever.

[00:31:57] But yeah,

[00:31:58] it's a great

[00:31:59] question.

[00:31:59] I guess I am.

[00:32:00] I'm always like

[00:32:01] why?

[00:32:01] Yeah,

[00:32:02] but they never

[00:32:02] did.

[00:32:03] I'm always like

[00:32:04] but why wouldn't

[00:32:05] you want it?

[00:32:05] You know,

[00:32:06] it's like

[00:32:06] and maybe that's

[00:32:07] the same reason people

[00:32:08] follow

[00:32:08] Voldemort and

[00:32:09] it's weird.

[00:32:09] Which is

[00:32:10] why I

[00:32:10] wouldn't

[00:32:11] power.

[00:32:12] Yeah,

[00:32:13] and someone

[00:32:13] on stream

[00:32:14] too is

[00:32:14] mentioning that

[00:32:15] this is

[00:32:15] one of

[00:32:16] the most

[00:32:17] common arguments

[00:32:18] for why

[00:32:18] this is

[00:32:18] limbo

[00:32:20] because

[00:32:21] Harry doesn't

[00:32:22] necessarily

[00:32:23] know all

[00:32:23] this information.

[00:32:24] Yeah.

[00:32:25] Like he

[00:32:25] maybe can

[00:32:26] piece it

[00:32:26] together.

[00:32:27] So that's

[00:32:28] one side of

[00:32:28] the argument.

[00:32:29] The other

[00:32:30] side and I

[00:32:30] was even

[00:32:30] reading this

[00:32:31] today

[00:32:33] is

[00:32:34] how does

[00:32:34] Dumbledore

[00:32:35] know

[00:32:36] that

[00:32:37] Grindelwald

[00:32:39] died

[00:32:40] because

[00:32:41] of

[00:32:42] Voldemort.

[00:32:43] Like he

[00:32:43] did he

[00:32:44] knows Grindelwald

[00:32:45] is in

[00:32:45] his memory.

[00:32:46] He knows

[00:32:46] that

[00:32:47] Grindelwald

[00:32:48] lied to him.

[00:32:48] What was his

[00:32:49] last thing

[00:32:49] that he did?

[00:32:50] So how does

[00:32:50] Dumbledore

[00:32:51] know that

[00:32:52] if he's

[00:32:52] dead,

[00:32:52] if he

[00:32:53] Dumbledore

[00:32:53] died before

[00:32:53] that.

[00:32:54] Maybe he's

[00:32:54] like all knowing

[00:32:55] now and you can see

[00:32:55] all things

[00:32:56] and look down

[00:32:57] and smile

[00:32:57] upon people.

[00:32:58] You know,

[00:32:59] wait,

[00:32:59] so Grindelwald

[00:33:00] died after

[00:33:01] Dumbledore.

[00:33:02] Yeah.

[00:33:02] So that

[00:33:03] would be like to

[00:33:04] say this is

[00:33:04] in Harry's

[00:33:05] head.

[00:33:05] Yeah.

[00:33:06] That's the

[00:33:06] that's the argument

[00:33:07] to why it

[00:33:07] maybe is in

[00:33:08] Harry's head

[00:33:08] because Harry

[00:33:09] Harry saw

[00:33:10] that but

[00:33:10] Dumbledore

[00:33:10] didn't see that.

[00:33:12] So there's

[00:33:12] arguments for

[00:33:13] and against

[00:33:13] for everything.

[00:33:14] Well,

[00:33:14] I don't

[00:33:15] know about

[00:33:15] this afterlife

[00:33:16] here.

[00:33:16] Grindelwald

[00:33:17] could be up

[00:33:17] there

[00:33:17] chilling with

[00:33:18] Dumbledore

[00:33:18] some fans.

[00:33:19] Yeah,

[00:33:19] he told the

[00:33:20] whole story.

[00:33:21] They already made up

[00:33:22] and so

[00:33:23] that's a great

[00:33:23] point.

[00:33:23] He came on a

[00:33:24] different train.

[00:33:24] He's like

[00:33:25] Dumbledore.

[00:33:25] I cannot

[00:33:26] believe this thing

[00:33:27] and if that

[00:33:28] theory is

[00:33:28] correct,

[00:33:28] I don't know

[00:33:29] if you can go

[00:33:29] from limbo

[00:33:30] and heaven

[00:33:31] etc.

[00:33:33] But it's kind

[00:33:34] of cute to

[00:33:35] think Dumbledore

[00:33:35] might have

[00:33:35] waited for

[00:33:36] Harry and

[00:33:36] limbo.

[00:33:39] If he knew

[00:33:39] it was going to

[00:33:39] go down

[00:33:40] this way

[00:33:40] and it seems

[00:33:40] like you did

[00:33:43] I still

[00:33:44] kind of think

[00:33:44] it's in

[00:33:44] Harry's head

[00:33:45] but

[00:33:45] because it

[00:33:46] opens up

[00:33:46] the clothes.

[00:33:47] I feel

[00:33:47] like that was

[00:33:48] the craziest

[00:33:48] one that he

[00:33:49] knew

[00:33:49] he would

[00:33:49] do that

[00:33:50] and that's why

[00:33:50] I still keep

[00:33:51] waiting for

[00:33:52] another missing

[00:33:52] piece of

[00:33:53] how Dumbledore

[00:33:54] knew all

[00:33:54] of this

[00:33:55] so

[00:33:55] exactly

[00:33:57] with

[00:33:58] more

[00:33:58] prophecies

[00:33:59] or something.

[00:34:00] Wait,

[00:34:00] but

[00:34:01] because

[00:34:01] Dumbledore

[00:34:01] is a

[00:34:02] master

[00:34:02] puppeteer.

[00:34:02] There's

[00:34:03] even the

[00:34:03] point where

[00:34:04] he was

[00:34:04] talking about

[00:34:05] how

[00:34:05] he knew

[00:34:06] that Harry

[00:34:07] wouldn't

[00:34:07] go

[00:34:07] after

[00:34:09] the

[00:34:09] or he

[00:34:10] knew

[00:34:10] he even

[00:34:10] says his

[00:34:11] line which

[00:34:11] is great.

[00:34:11] He's

[00:34:11] like Harry

[00:34:12] I know

[00:34:12] you that

[00:34:12] you're

[00:34:12] hot-headed

[00:34:13] and I

[00:34:14] know that

[00:34:14] you would

[00:34:14] have gone

[00:34:14] after

[00:34:15] the

[00:34:15] Hallows

[00:34:16] but I

[00:34:16] trusted

[00:34:17] that Hermione

[00:34:17] would have

[00:34:18] slowed you

[00:34:18] down and that

[00:34:19] you would have

[00:34:19] come to

[00:34:20] since.

[00:34:20] So he's

[00:34:20] like Harry's

[00:34:21] going

[00:34:21] full steam

[00:34:21] at this Hermione

[00:34:22] reigns

[00:34:22] him back

[00:34:23] and Dumbledore

[00:34:23] knows

[00:34:24] that exact

[00:34:24] balance that's

[00:34:25] in between

[00:34:25] them that

[00:34:26] Harry

[00:34:26] will

[00:34:26] knows

[00:34:27] that this

[00:34:27] is a

[00:34:27] wrong

[00:34:27] thing to

[00:34:28] do and

[00:34:28] then it's

[00:34:28] going to

[00:34:28] rear course

[00:34:29] again and

[00:34:29] go back

[00:34:30] to

[00:34:30] Horcruxes.

[00:34:31] That

[00:34:31] like blows

[00:34:32] my mind

[00:34:32] how

[00:34:33] fine of

[00:34:33] a line

[00:34:34] this is

[00:34:34] that Dumbledore

[00:34:35] was playing

[00:34:36] and

[00:34:38] it's

[00:34:39] it's

[00:34:39] like astonishing

[00:34:40] when you

[00:34:40] get to

[00:34:40] that idea.

[00:34:41] I forget where

[00:34:41] that was though.

[00:34:42] Why did he

[00:34:43] went

[00:34:43] to the deciding moment?

[00:34:45] At Shell cottage.

[00:34:46] Remember they

[00:34:48] they just

[00:34:48] got out

[00:34:48] back to

[00:34:49] Shell cottage

[00:34:50] and Harry

[00:34:51] was making

[00:34:51] a decision

[00:34:51] between

[00:34:52] Horcruxes

[00:34:52] and Hallows

[00:34:53] and they

[00:34:53] went

[00:34:53] and they

[00:34:54] talked to

[00:34:56] the

[00:34:56] Horcruxes

[00:34:57] first.

[00:34:57] They

[00:34:57] talked to

[00:34:58] the

[00:34:59] the

[00:34:59] Oh

[00:35:00] Ollivander

[00:35:01] versus

[00:35:01] they

[00:35:01] talked to

[00:35:01] Ollivander

[00:35:02] second

[00:35:03] and then

[00:35:03] because

[00:35:04] Harry

[00:35:05] how

[00:35:05] was having

[00:35:05] visions of

[00:35:06] Voldemort

[00:35:06] going to

[00:35:07] get the

[00:35:07] Elder Wand

[00:35:07] and he's

[00:35:08] like

[00:35:08] no we're

[00:35:08] too late

[00:35:09] we can't

[00:35:09] get it

[00:35:09] we have

[00:35:09] to go

[00:35:10] Horcruxes.

[00:35:11] Got it.

[00:35:14] That's why it's like crazy that Dumbledore is just playing all this like master.

[00:35:18] How does he how did he know and like even to your guys question

[00:35:23] he knew parts of this because he was raising to an extent Harry

[00:35:27] to die

[00:35:28] so he knew certain things had to happen but how he was able to maneuver

[00:35:32] and manage that thing.

[00:35:32] But now it sounds a little better.

[00:35:33] It's like he was raising him

[00:35:35] the way he needed him to die so that everything would work out.

[00:35:39] Yeah,

[00:35:40] he doesn't actually die.

[00:35:41] Yeah,

[00:35:42] maybe.

[00:35:42] Yeah.

[00:35:43] Yeah.

[00:35:43] Like he or is it only in his eyes is it only because of the blood

[00:35:47] exchange and at that moment he's like good.

[00:35:51] I don't have to sacrifice Harry Harry can live.

[00:35:54] Like I was ready

[00:35:55] but now I don't have to all right.

[00:35:56] Yeah,

[00:35:57] maybe or maybe he had a whole different plan and that was the

[00:36:01] pivot of well now we can get a little more aggressive with this

[00:36:05] plan.

[00:36:10] Yeah,

[00:36:10] I'd yeah,

[00:36:11] it's still it feels like they're just a few little pieces in there

[00:36:14] that I'm like waiting for other things to fill in details,

[00:36:18] but it also is a less perfect story than that.

[00:36:22] I pictured you know,

[00:36:22] like I guess I pictured a little bit more of the fairy tale

[00:36:26] happy ending bow on top

[00:36:29] and then we're hit with like more complex characters than

[00:36:32] I expected even in Dumbledore and Snape.

[00:36:37] So then the the curveballs of character flaws,

[00:36:40] it's different.

[00:36:41] I'm like,

[00:36:41] oh,

[00:36:42] all right.

[00:36:43] That's very real.

[00:36:44] Yeah,

[00:36:44] for sure.

[00:36:45] That's why again it is a stunning astonishing theory or like

[00:36:48] series because no character is perfect.

[00:36:51] Like these characters that you think were perfect are not

[00:36:53] and these characters that you think are evil.

[00:36:55] Some of them are pretty evil and they're not really redeemable

[00:36:59] but it's like even Snape who you really despise and think

[00:37:02] is this person is beyond redemption finally gets his

[00:37:05] redemption at the end in some way in some way people debate

[00:37:10] that's the most they've debated question is,

[00:37:12] you know,

[00:37:13] he the who he is as a person but he does get some kind of

[00:37:18] redemption at the end.

[00:37:19] So it's like the series is great because it's a spectrum

[00:37:20] of humans.

[00:37:21] It's not just it's again.

[00:37:23] It's a great line,

[00:37:24] but the world isn't split into good people and Death

[00:37:25] Eaters,

[00:37:26] you know,

[00:37:26] it's fantastic.

[00:37:27] I'll say that all the time.

[00:37:32] You say it's not true.

[00:37:33] Yep.

[00:37:36] You hated that.

[00:37:40] So good.

[00:37:41] Because everyone we're talking about was a Death Eater at

[00:37:43] some point and Slytherin left the building.

[00:37:52] Here's another line that I want to talk about this for

[00:37:53] a little bit says,

[00:37:56] Harry kind of says that he would have been a great

[00:37:58] minister of magic and Dumbledore goes,

[00:38:00] would I ask Dumbledore heavily?

[00:38:01] I'm not so sure I had proven as a very young man

[00:38:05] that power was my weakness and my temptation.

[00:38:07] It's a curious thing Harry.

[00:38:09] But perhaps those who are best suited to power are

[00:38:11] those who never sought it.

[00:38:13] Those who like you have leadership thrust upon them

[00:38:17] and take up the mantle because they must and find

[00:38:21] to their own surprise that they wear it well.

[00:38:26] Had Dumbledore had power thrust upon him?

[00:38:30] Do you actually think he would have been good?

[00:38:32] Like going back to Dumbledore.

[00:38:34] So we're comparing old Dumbledore right now with

[00:38:36] young Harry.

[00:38:38] Bring Dumbledore back to Harry's age.

[00:38:40] Would he have responded in the same way that Harry

[00:38:42] did?

[00:38:43] Would he have been good with power?

[00:38:45] In his youth?

[00:38:46] In his youth.

[00:38:47] Like would he have been a good minister of magic

[00:38:49] actually?

[00:38:50] It's hard to be worse than Fudge.

[00:38:59] I feel like even if he was bad,

[00:39:01] he probably would eventually became better,

[00:39:04] matured.

[00:39:06] To what?

[00:39:06] Yeah.

[00:39:06] But I was almost the opposite of like corrupting.

[00:39:11] Yeah, yeah.

[00:39:11] Sometimes when you are put in power that can really

[00:39:15] be a deciding factor of which way you're going to

[00:39:17] go.

[00:39:17] Like if he was young back when the story where

[00:39:21] he's saying like,

[00:39:22] you know when he was kind of making these

[00:39:24] original decisions,

[00:39:25] but then if he became minister of magic later

[00:39:28] in life,

[00:39:30] it might have been better and I think it's also

[00:39:31] like a mind game where he says,

[00:39:36] it's better if you don't want the power and then

[00:39:38] it's thrust upon you and I'm thinking well,

[00:39:40] it sounds like Dumbledore doesn't want the power

[00:39:43] and it would have been thrust upon him.

[00:39:45] You know,

[00:39:45] like Dumbledore then filled that exact same

[00:39:48] thing he said.

[00:39:49] He doesn't want it and maybe his reason for

[00:39:51] not wanting it is because he's afraid of

[00:39:53] power corrupting him,

[00:39:54] but that's still a noble reason and so power

[00:39:58] could corrupt anybody

[00:39:59] and Dumbledore displayed in his choices

[00:40:06] that he could say no to the power.

[00:40:08] So I feel like by nature that already qualifies

[00:40:13] him in some ways because he doesn't actually

[00:40:16] want it.

[00:40:16] He said no to the power.

[00:40:18] It does display some kind of wisdom that

[00:40:20] you know that you know your own weaknesses

[00:40:22] and you know,

[00:40:23] you aren't going to take those positions

[00:40:25] because you're not going to be good in them.

[00:40:28] So it takes a good amount of wisdom for that,

[00:40:30] but yeah,

[00:40:33] I don't know.

[00:40:36] This is another line that we get says if

[00:40:37] you plan your death with Snape,

[00:40:39] you meant him to end up with the elder

[00:40:41] wand didn't you?

[00:40:43] I admit that was my intention said Dumbledore

[00:40:46] but it did not work out as I intended

[00:40:48] did it.

[00:40:49] No said Harry that bit didn't work out.

[00:40:54] What are they talking about?

[00:40:57] That Snape died for the elder one instead

[00:41:00] of Snape getting the elder one.

[00:41:02] Okay.

[00:41:02] Yeah.

[00:41:04] But it took me a long time to understand

[00:41:07] the first three.

[00:41:08] It's an interesting decipher of that line.

[00:41:10] Well,

[00:41:10] like why didn't it work out?

[00:41:11] What are they actually talking about

[00:41:12] that it didn't work out?

[00:41:13] But then what would Snape have used

[00:41:15] the wand for?

[00:41:16] Yeah,

[00:41:16] and well,

[00:41:17] yeah,

[00:41:17] that's what I'm saying.

[00:41:18] Like it still it doesn't feel quite

[00:41:21] right because it doesn't feel like a

[00:41:24] good plan.

[00:41:26] Like you great you have the wand

[00:41:28] and then what?

[00:41:29] But he never even said that according

[00:41:31] to the memories we saw of Snape

[00:41:32] and maybe Harry's not supposed to know

[00:41:34] but like what was the plan?

[00:41:38] When was he going to get the elder

[00:41:39] wand or was the plan to have

[00:41:40] Voldemort always keep it and then

[00:41:43] him just not know that it was not

[00:41:45] powerful.

[00:41:46] But again,

[00:41:46] if Dumbledore knew how Harry is

[00:41:47] going to end up,

[00:41:48] you know,

[00:41:50] yeah,

[00:41:50] Voldemort ended up with the wand,

[00:41:52] but when was Snape going to get it?

[00:41:53] No,

[00:41:54] no,

[00:41:54] he was oh,

[00:41:55] well my understanding was that

[00:41:59] dumb that Voldemort would have

[00:42:00] never what do you I don't know

[00:42:03] what he have found out about the

[00:42:04] elder wand and that Snape was supposed

[00:42:06] to have it be like in his possession,

[00:42:10] but it would actually be in the grave

[00:42:12] with Dumbledore or is he saying that

[00:42:14] Dumbledore was expecting Snape to get

[00:42:18] it.

[00:42:20] Like did he even know about the

[00:42:21] elder wand?

[00:42:22] That's what I guess I'm confused.

[00:42:23] Did Voldemort know Snape?

[00:42:25] No,

[00:42:25] Snape.

[00:42:26] Yeah,

[00:42:26] eventually.

[00:42:28] Because it's like did he mean like

[00:42:31] he would be the owner of it,

[00:42:32] but he would never possess it like

[00:42:35] Dumbledore saying that about Snape.

[00:42:37] So there's there's even something

[00:42:39] that Harry that Dumbledore talks about

[00:42:41] that Harry is the worthy possessor

[00:42:44] of the Hallows,

[00:42:45] but Harry does Harry possess all

[00:42:46] the Hallows.

[00:42:47] He had the stone.

[00:42:49] He had the cloak doesn't have the

[00:42:51] wand.

[00:42:52] So is he the possessor of the

[00:42:53] wand?

[00:42:53] Not,

[00:42:53] but if he's part Voldemort,

[00:42:56] he is the possessor of the wand.

[00:42:58] Interesting,

[00:42:59] but I'm not in.

[00:43:01] Can he be Voldemort straight up?

[00:43:02] He was when he went to kill him.

[00:43:05] He actually was part Voldemort.

[00:43:07] So that's what I was saying.

[00:43:09] Like can it kill him or would it

[00:43:11] backfire or would Harry actually

[00:43:14] become the owner like and Harry

[00:43:16] is Harry has Horcrux in Voldemort.

[00:43:19] Maybe that's why I wouldn't so then

[00:43:21] again there can be quite a

[00:43:23] connection of a many elder wand

[00:43:25] protections like he's always had

[00:43:28] the wand the Horcrux his mother's

[00:43:30] love ancient magic.

[00:43:35] He's just saying all the buzzwords.

[00:43:37] It did not work as I intended.

[00:43:40] Did it?

[00:43:41] Did it?

[00:43:42] Did it?

[00:43:43] Why do you say it?

[00:43:43] Why do you end it with a question?

[00:43:46] Yeah,

[00:43:46] what do they know?

[00:43:47] What do they know that we don't

[00:43:48] know because it could be like

[00:43:54] Jen's is definitely the most plain

[00:43:55] reading.

[00:44:00] Like what is there any other is

[00:44:03] there any other meaning to this line?

[00:44:07] Very literal.

[00:44:07] Well,

[00:44:08] I'm hoping it's one of the things

[00:44:09] we could potentially learn.

[00:44:13] Again,

[00:44:14] I'm thinking of more.

[00:44:15] I'd love revealed about Dumbledore

[00:44:18] to make him just bump back up to

[00:44:20] a little bit more noble little

[00:44:22] less manipulative and this would

[00:44:24] be another piece of that puzzle

[00:44:25] where that part of the plan

[00:44:28] doesn't really make sense to me.

[00:44:33] Poor Severus.

[00:44:36] It was his intention for Snape

[00:44:38] to end up with the wand,

[00:44:39] but I just can't see when that

[00:44:41] would have happened or how

[00:44:44] and if he saw all of this

[00:44:45] coming he didn't see Voldemort

[00:44:47] trying to betray Snape by

[00:44:50] killing him to get like that

[00:44:51] feels like an interesting thing

[00:44:53] to overlook.

[00:44:54] Yeah,

[00:44:54] with how many other details

[00:44:56] Dumbledore was able to plan out

[00:44:57] and how important that was

[00:44:59] seemingly.

[00:45:00] But there is a point maybe

[00:45:01] Dumbledore knew it was going to

[00:45:03] happen.

[00:45:03] It was gonna be kind of like

[00:45:04] a wild goose chase.

[00:45:05] So like he was gonna wait

[00:45:06] until this last moment.

[00:45:07] Maybe he thought oh,

[00:45:08] it's gonna be like just the

[00:45:09] last moment when he's gonna

[00:45:10] kill him and maybe Harry

[00:45:13] will kill you know all the

[00:45:14] Horcruxes before that happens

[00:45:16] and then it won't really have

[00:45:18] any power or something like that,

[00:45:19] you know,

[00:45:20] so it could still be playing

[00:45:22] along with Dumbledore's plan,

[00:45:23] but it maybe I don't know

[00:45:25] that any like it doesn't

[00:45:26] necessarily seem like anything

[00:45:28] went outside of Dumbledore's

[00:45:30] plan like what could have gone

[00:45:31] outside of Dumbledore's plan

[00:45:32] for this,

[00:45:33] right,

[00:45:33] right.

[00:45:34] So yeah,

[00:45:34] this is the only part that

[00:45:36] feels like it was not

[00:45:39] perfectly part of the plan.

[00:45:40] Yeah,

[00:45:40] for sure.

[00:45:42] But it makes me wonder what

[00:45:43] the plan would have been

[00:45:45] if Snape got the elder

[00:45:46] wand was he going to duel

[00:45:48] Harry and Harry was gonna

[00:45:49] have to kill him to take

[00:45:50] the wand so that Harry

[00:45:51] could then fight Voldemort

[00:45:53] but when was that gonna

[00:45:55] happen with Snape gonna go

[00:45:57] tell Harry all of the stuff

[00:45:58] once Nagini was like

[00:45:59] captive and said you have

[00:46:01] to kill me now or yeah,

[00:46:02] like,

[00:46:03] you know,

[00:46:03] I won't resist.

[00:46:04] You have to take this

[00:46:05] wand or he can even

[00:46:06] get into it willingly.

[00:46:07] Yeah,

[00:46:07] that's true.

[00:46:08] Imagine if that would

[00:46:09] happen though if Snape

[00:46:10] comes up to him and

[00:46:11] he's like Harry,

[00:46:12] I need you to kill me.

[00:46:13] Harry's probably like

[00:46:14] okay great,

[00:46:14] finally and then he gets

[00:46:15] to mirror Dumbledore

[00:46:16] and say please Harry

[00:46:18] after he tells him the

[00:46:19] whole story

[00:46:21] and well that that also

[00:46:22] would be interesting

[00:46:23] because we were saying

[00:46:25] how even if Snape went

[00:46:26] to tell Harry the whole thing

[00:46:28] it would be hard for Harry

[00:46:29] to trust him.

[00:46:30] Not sure if he would

[00:46:31] but then if he says

[00:46:32] literally kill me Harry

[00:46:34] I feel like that

[00:46:35] that's one way to

[00:46:36] gain trust you're saying

[00:46:37] I trust you with my

[00:46:37] life and I need you

[00:46:39] to do the opposite

[00:46:39] of what you would

[00:46:40] expect me to do.

[00:46:41] So

[00:46:43] I'm curious if we'll

[00:46:44] hear more about that

[00:46:44] part of the little

[00:46:45] plan.

[00:46:46] We'll see.

[00:46:49] It's just one of the

[00:46:50] other little mysteries

[00:46:51] they hinted at and

[00:46:52] the Grindelwald thing

[00:46:53] still doesn't it

[00:46:54] still feels a little

[00:46:55] weird just like

[00:46:56] his dynamic his

[00:46:57] motivation him in

[00:46:59] jail this whole time.

[00:47:00] Yeah.

[00:47:03] The

[00:47:05] I'm not going to

[00:47:06] spoil really anything

[00:47:07] but the new series

[00:47:08] touches on it a

[00:47:10] tiny bit

[00:47:11] so they give us a

[00:47:12] few little extra

[00:47:13] tidbits on it

[00:47:14] but not a ton.

[00:47:16] So

[00:47:17] there's like some

[00:47:18] extra lore that's

[00:47:19] out there that

[00:47:20] that

[00:47:21] fits on the Dumbledore

[00:47:22] and a Grindelwald

[00:47:23] stuff but

[00:47:24] and the new series

[00:47:25] is is canon.

[00:47:27] Yes for the

[00:47:28] like she wrote it.

[00:47:30] She helped adapt

[00:47:31] some of the screenplay

[00:47:33] there are some things

[00:47:34] like then anything

[00:47:35] that's new is

[00:47:36] like in my

[00:47:37] opinion anything

[00:47:38] that's new you

[00:47:39] pick and choose what

[00:47:39] you think is canon

[00:47:40] and not

[00:47:42] there is a little

[00:47:42] bit of debate on this

[00:47:43] but like people

[00:47:44] like curse child

[00:47:45] there's some parts

[00:47:46] of that that I

[00:47:47] think are canon

[00:47:47] there's some parts

[00:47:48] that I don't think

[00:47:48] are same thing

[00:47:49] with the new series

[00:47:50] or certain things

[00:47:51] that I think dead

[00:47:52] are 100%

[00:47:53] canon.

[00:47:54] There is one moment

[00:47:55] that enrages every

[00:47:56] fan it's in the last

[00:47:57] movie the third

[00:47:58] of the movies.

[00:47:59] But there are three

[00:48:00] more after this one.

[00:48:01] Yeah,

[00:48:02] so there's three

[00:48:03] Fantastic Beasts

[00:48:03] movies.

[00:48:04] Whoa.

[00:48:05] They were going to

[00:48:06] make five but they

[00:48:07] ended up making

[00:48:07] three because they

[00:48:08] weren't doing

[00:48:09] too well apparently

[00:48:10] but there's one

[00:48:11] moment the third

[00:48:12] one that like

[00:48:12] enrages

[00:48:14] a lot of people

[00:48:15] because it just

[00:48:15] shouldn't have happened

[00:48:17] with everything in

[00:48:17] these books.

[00:48:18] So like that's not

[00:48:18] canon for me

[00:48:20] but like most of

[00:48:20] the other stuff

[00:48:21] like pretty much

[00:48:22] I would probably

[00:48:23] say 99%

[00:48:24] of that

[00:48:24] for plotting is

[00:48:25] canon for me.

[00:48:26] Except for one

[00:48:27] or two things that I

[00:48:27] just want to pick out

[00:48:28] and be like no

[00:48:29] that really shouldn't

[00:48:29] have happened.

[00:48:30] So we can treat it

[00:48:31] like a beetle

[00:48:31] bard story.

[00:48:32] Exactly.

[00:48:33] Yeah,

[00:48:33] some truth in there

[00:48:34] but maybe some

[00:48:35] creative license too.

[00:48:36] Exactly 100%

[00:48:38] That's that's

[00:48:38] that's my take on it.

[00:48:40] I remember

[00:48:41] those stuff.

[00:48:42] That's because you're

[00:48:43] a guy.

[00:48:45] I ain't going to

[00:48:45] because he takes

[00:48:46] diligent notes.

[00:48:48] So true.

[00:48:51] Could

[00:48:52] compartmentalize.

[00:48:55] True.

[00:48:57] Dumbledore does

[00:48:57] say my dear boy.

[00:48:59] I have no idea.

[00:49:00] This is as they

[00:49:01] say your party.

[00:49:03] I feel like that's

[00:49:03] another point

[00:49:04] towards it being

[00:49:04] in Harry's mind.

[00:49:05] Just one of the

[00:49:06] things that I was like.

[00:49:08] That's a good line

[00:49:08] too.

[00:49:09] Or maybe in

[00:49:09] limbo.

[00:49:10] Why couldn't it be

[00:49:10] a little bit of both?

[00:49:11] Yeah,

[00:49:11] it can be and

[00:49:14] kind of like

[00:49:14] Dumbledore's final thing.

[00:49:16] But it could be

[00:49:16] like a party also

[00:49:18] like more of

[00:49:19] like this is your

[00:49:20] party of like

[00:49:22] awake.

[00:49:22] He wants to.

[00:49:23] Sorry.

[00:49:26] I didn't I just

[00:49:28] sorry because I

[00:49:29] totally interrupted you

[00:49:30] keep going.

[00:49:35] Yes,

[00:49:36] party.

[00:49:40] But he

[00:49:42] is an enlightenment

[00:49:43] party.

[00:49:43] So it could be

[00:49:44] like that.

[00:49:45] Not necessarily

[00:49:46] like his

[00:49:47] yeah,

[00:49:47] it's true.

[00:49:48] Could be like

[00:49:49] yeah,

[00:49:49] I kind of

[00:49:50] like that reading.

[00:49:51] It's like when

[00:49:51] everything makes

[00:49:52] sense for him.

[00:49:52] That's his party.

[00:49:54] Yeah.

[00:49:56] You didn't

[00:49:57] I know you're

[00:49:57] reading so you

[00:49:58] probably kept

[00:49:58] that.

[00:49:59] I a little bit

[00:50:00] caught it

[00:50:00] and I agree

[00:50:01] with you in

[00:50:02] a vague sense.

[00:50:03] I was just

[00:50:03] getting lost

[00:50:04] in lore in my

[00:50:05] head.

[00:50:08] Only because

[00:50:10] Dumbledore talks

[00:50:11] about all the

[00:50:12] Hallows and how

[00:50:14] maybe a man

[00:50:15] in a million

[00:50:15] could unite them.

[00:50:17] But then he

[00:50:17] says he's not

[00:50:18] worthy Dumbledore

[00:50:19] isn't because

[00:50:19] of he was

[00:50:20] taking it for

[00:50:20] the wrong reasons.

[00:50:23] And as we were

[00:50:23] saying Harry

[00:50:24] could be a better

[00:50:25] man.

[00:50:25] Harry might

[00:50:26] be taking them

[00:50:26] for the right

[00:50:27] reasons.

[00:50:27] If he does

[00:50:28] get all of

[00:50:29] them and

[00:50:30] becomes whatever

[00:50:31] they said

[00:50:31] master

[00:50:32] of death

[00:50:32] or the

[00:50:32] power that

[00:50:33] whatever

[00:50:35] again wanted

[00:50:35] to bring

[00:50:36] people back

[00:50:36] to life

[00:50:36] sounds great,

[00:50:37] but then it

[00:50:37] also sounds

[00:50:38] a little off.

[00:50:38] I don't

[00:50:39] really like

[00:50:39] it and then

[00:50:40] Dumbledore

[00:50:41] comes back

[00:50:41] and says

[00:50:45] I would have

[00:50:46] used it

[00:50:46] in an

[00:50:47] attempt to

[00:50:48] nice cover

[00:50:48] for some

[00:50:50] to drag

[00:50:50] back those

[00:50:51] who are

[00:50:51] at peace

[00:50:52] and I think

[00:50:53] that's a

[00:50:53] weird way of

[00:50:54] kind of

[00:50:54] saying

[00:50:55] those who

[00:50:55] have died,

[00:50:56] but I also

[00:50:57] wonder

[00:50:58] are all

[00:50:59] people who

[00:50:59] die at

[00:51:00] peace

[00:51:01] because

[00:51:02] an interesting

[00:51:03] curveball

[00:51:04] to this

[00:51:04] would be

[00:51:05] if

[00:51:06] Harry has

[00:51:06] that power

[00:51:09] and it's

[00:51:09] not to

[00:51:09] bring people

[00:51:10] back from

[00:51:10] the dead

[00:51:11] but to

[00:51:11] resolve

[00:51:12] something with

[00:51:12] ghosts

[00:51:13] by

[00:51:14] giving them

[00:51:14] peace

[00:51:15] so that

[00:51:15] they move

[00:51:16] on

[00:51:16] or

[00:51:17] even more

[00:51:17] curveball

[00:51:19] brings them

[00:51:19] back to

[00:51:19] life

[00:51:20] so they

[00:51:20] can try

[00:51:21] earth

[00:51:21] one more

[00:51:21] time.

[00:51:23] Anyways,

[00:51:24] just a

[00:51:24] chance for

[00:51:25] resolving some of

[00:51:26] those

[00:51:26] ghosts

[00:51:28] because I

[00:51:28] can't think

[00:51:29] how

[00:51:30] the Hallows all

[00:51:30] coming together

[00:51:32] would be

[00:51:33] what he

[00:51:34] would do

[00:51:34] with that

[00:51:34] power.

[00:51:35] What Harry

[00:51:36] would do

[00:51:37] with it.

[00:51:38] I feel like

[00:51:38] Harry's been

[00:51:39] tested on

[00:51:39] power before

[00:51:40] and

[00:51:41] he has

[00:51:41] succeeded

[00:51:42] overwhelmingly

[00:51:43] especially

[00:51:44] with the

[00:51:44] mirror

[00:51:44] like

[00:51:45] he

[00:51:45] he

[00:51:47] wants these

[00:51:47] things

[00:51:47] for very

[00:51:48] noble reasons.

[00:51:49] Harry is

[00:51:49] very much

[00:51:50] a hothead,

[00:51:51] very much

[00:51:51] you know

[00:51:52] like

[00:51:52] we'll

[00:51:53] we'll

[00:51:54] go to

[00:51:55] battle for you.

[00:51:55] He has a

[00:51:56] saving people

[00:51:56] complex which

[00:51:57] are great

[00:51:57] things about

[00:51:58] him and

[00:51:58] flaws about

[00:51:59] him.

[00:52:00] But one

[00:52:00] thing that

[00:52:00] he has

[00:52:01] it's

[00:52:01] overwhelming

[00:52:02] overwhelming

[00:52:02] is that

[00:52:03] he just

[00:52:03] doesn't

[00:52:04] desire

[00:52:04] power

[00:52:05] and he

[00:52:06] is very

[00:52:07] very

[00:52:07] noble

[00:52:08] like these

[00:52:09] things that

[00:52:09] are thrust

[00:52:10] upon him.

[00:52:11] He

[00:52:12] if he

[00:52:13] had all

[00:52:13] the Hallows

[00:52:14] it would

[00:52:14] be like

[00:52:15] very

[00:52:16] insignificant

[00:52:16] to him

[00:52:17] I think.

[00:52:17] Yep.

[00:52:18] But he

[00:52:19] kind of

[00:52:19] saw what

[00:52:20] power does

[00:52:20] to someone

[00:52:21] Voldemort

[00:52:22] right?

[00:52:22] And how

[00:52:22] it destroys.

[00:52:24] Yep.

[00:52:25] He's like

[00:52:25] gotten that.

[00:52:26] It's like almost

[00:52:27] in Harry's

[00:52:28] blood a little bit.

[00:52:29] Like literally.

[00:52:30] Yeah.

[00:52:33] Did it.

[00:52:35] A few more lines

[00:52:36] and then we'll

[00:52:37] we'll listen.

[00:52:39] Just some

[00:52:39] good lines

[00:52:40] and what the heck

[00:52:42] are they talking

[00:52:42] about where he

[00:52:43] says I've got

[00:52:44] to go back

[00:52:45] haven't I that's

[00:52:45] up to you.

[00:52:47] I've got a

[00:52:47] choice.

[00:52:48] Oh, yes.

[00:52:49] Dumbledore

[00:52:49] smiled at him.

[00:52:50] We are in

[00:52:51] Kings Cross

[00:52:51] you say.

[00:52:52] I think that if

[00:52:53] you decided not

[00:52:54] to go back

[00:52:55] you'd be able to

[00:52:56] let's say

[00:52:57] board a train

[00:52:59] and where would

[00:52:59] it take me?

[00:53:00] On

[00:53:01] send Dumbledore

[00:53:02] simply.

[00:53:04] Like what the heck is he talking about there?

[00:53:05] What is on?

[00:53:06] Is on to the next world?

[00:53:08] I guess.

[00:53:08] I would like

[00:53:09] to think

[00:53:09] heaven.

[00:53:10] On to heaven.

[00:53:11] There you go, yeah.

[00:53:13] And then

[00:53:14] this is another

[00:53:15] good one

[00:53:15] where he says

[00:53:16] do not pity

[00:53:16] the dead

[00:53:17] Harry.

[00:53:18] Pity the living

[00:53:19] and above all

[00:53:20] those who

[00:53:21] live without

[00:53:21] love.

[00:53:23] He says by

[00:53:23] returning you may

[00:53:24] ensure that

[00:53:24] fewer souls are maimed,

[00:53:26] fewer families

[00:53:26] are torn apart.

[00:53:28] If that seems to you

[00:53:29] a worthy goal

[00:53:30] then we say

[00:53:30] goodbye for the

[00:53:31] present.

[00:53:33] Tell me one last

[00:53:34] thing said Harry.

[00:53:35] Is this real?

[00:53:36] Or has this been

[00:53:37] happening inside my head?

[00:53:39] Dumbledore

[00:53:39] beamed at him

[00:53:40] and his voice

[00:53:41] sounded loud

[00:53:41] and strong

[00:53:42] in Harry's ears.

[00:53:43] Even though

[00:53:44] the bright mist

[00:53:45] was ascending again

[00:53:46] obscuring his

[00:53:46] figure.

[00:53:47] Of course it is

[00:53:49] happening inside

[00:53:49] your head Harry.

[00:53:51] But why on earth

[00:53:52] should that mean

[00:53:52] that it is

[00:53:53] it is not

[00:53:53] real?

[00:53:54] Exactly.

[00:53:55] Danny.

[00:53:56] I mean that is like

[00:53:57] such a Dumbledore

[00:53:58] line.

[00:53:59] If this is in

[00:53:59] Harry's head

[00:54:00] then he knows

[00:54:01] Dumbledore

[00:54:01] so well.

[00:54:02] He does yeah

[00:54:03] he really does.

[00:54:03] I wonder how long

[00:54:04] JK had to think about

[00:54:05] that one.

[00:54:05] I know right?

[00:54:06] Yeah.

[00:54:06] Just like a

[00:54:06] perfect line.

[00:54:07] I know it's

[00:54:07] such a good line

[00:54:08] to wrap it up.

[00:54:10] So

[00:54:13] any last

[00:54:14] tidbits in

[00:54:14] this chapter?

[00:54:16] Any

[00:54:17] final predictions

[00:54:18] on what's going

[00:54:18] to happen?

[00:54:23] I think the

[00:54:24] mist

[00:54:24] descending is

[00:54:26] Harry going

[00:54:26] back to

[00:54:30] Earth

[00:54:30] reality

[00:54:32] the world

[00:54:32] etc.

[00:54:34] And I think

[00:54:35] it's battle time.

[00:54:38] But I just

[00:54:38] can't figure out

[00:54:39] how it's

[00:54:39] gonna go.

[00:54:40] Well,

[00:54:40] I think

[00:54:41] maybe Ron

[00:54:42] Hermione

[00:54:43] Neville

[00:54:44] are taking on

[00:54:45] McGee.

[00:54:45] Oh nice.

[00:54:46] I feel like

[00:54:47] that would be great

[00:54:47] if that wasn't

[00:54:48] another step

[00:54:49] in Harry's thing.

[00:54:49] Why Ron

[00:54:50] Hermione

[00:54:50] and Neville?

[00:54:51] Because he

[00:54:51] told Neville

[00:54:52] about it last time?

[00:54:52] Because he

[00:54:52] told Neville

[00:54:53] yeah.

[00:54:53] So Neville

[00:54:54] has to go to them

[00:54:55] and kind of

[00:54:55] remind them

[00:54:56] because I think

[00:54:57] they'd be a little

[00:54:57] lost with

[00:54:58] Harry gone.

[00:54:59] They would be

[00:55:00] confused

[00:55:00] and feel like

[00:55:01] even maybe

[00:55:01] neglected.

[00:55:02] So

[00:55:03] if

[00:55:03] Neville

[00:55:04] reaches them

[00:55:04] and tells

[00:55:05] them the

[00:55:05] plan,

[00:55:09] I feel like

[00:55:09] that would

[00:55:09] help.

[00:55:10] And I don't

[00:55:10] know how many

[00:55:11] charms are

[00:55:11] still standing

[00:55:12] but they might

[00:55:12] even be

[00:55:12] able to

[00:55:12] apperate

[00:55:13] now in

[00:55:13] Hogwarts.

[00:55:14] So then

[00:55:15] a little bit

[00:55:15] of speed

[00:55:16] and they just

[00:55:16] they're on

[00:55:16] a mission.

[00:55:17] I feel

[00:55:17] like that

[00:55:17] would be

[00:55:18] good

[00:55:18] because Harry

[00:55:20] can then be

[00:55:21] completely

[00:55:21] focused on

[00:55:22] the Voldemort

[00:55:22] fight as

[00:55:23] long as

[00:55:24] the timing

[00:55:24] works out

[00:55:25] with Nagini.

[00:55:28] I just

[00:55:28] can't figure

[00:55:29] out again

[00:55:29] if the

[00:55:30] Hallows

[00:55:30] play into it

[00:55:32] and if they

[00:55:33] do,

[00:55:33] how they

[00:55:34] do.

[00:55:35] And if Harry

[00:55:36] has to

[00:55:36] do a

[00:55:36] double tap

[00:55:37] or if

[00:55:37] it's a

[00:55:37] single

[00:55:38] attack

[00:55:39] and if he

[00:55:39] has to

[00:55:40] die again

[00:55:40] or this

[00:55:41] is a

[00:55:41] one-time

[00:55:42] death

[00:55:43] experience.

[00:55:44] Or

[00:55:44] well

[00:55:44] that's

[00:55:45] the thing

[00:55:46] where

[00:55:46] there could

[00:55:46] be more

[00:55:46] risk

[00:55:47] if Harry

[00:55:48] does

[00:55:55] Voldemort

[00:55:56] because it's

[00:55:56] his

[00:55:57] blood.

[00:55:58] So I was going to

[00:55:58] say if he could

[00:55:58] somehow

[00:55:59] remove

[00:55:59] the

[00:55:59] Horcrux,

[00:56:00] then there'd

[00:56:01] be actual

[00:56:01] risk in

[00:56:02] that final

[00:56:02] thing because

[00:56:03] Harry knows

[00:56:03] if he loses

[00:56:04] the only

[00:56:04] thing is it's

[00:56:04] not like

[00:56:05] he did

[00:56:05] it to

[00:56:05] himself.

[00:56:06] So it's

[00:56:06] different

[00:56:07] right?

[00:56:07] Like his

[00:56:07] soul is

[00:56:08] not actually

[00:56:09] torn

[00:56:10] apart.

[00:56:11] You know

[00:56:12] right?

[00:56:12] I feel

[00:56:13] like that's

[00:56:13] something people

[00:56:14] might debate

[00:56:14] too.

[00:56:15] Is that

[00:56:15] you don't

[00:56:16] think it's

[00:56:16] torn apart

[00:56:17] because there

[00:56:18] was no

[00:56:18] heartbreak.

[00:56:19] There was

[00:56:19] no

[00:56:19] murder.

[00:56:20] There was

[00:56:20] no like

[00:56:22] has Harry

[00:56:22] killed

[00:56:23] people?

[00:56:23] He hasn't

[00:56:23] never

[00:56:24] killed yet.

[00:56:25] He's

[00:56:27] I was going to

[00:56:27] say tried

[00:56:28] but even

[00:56:28] that I

[00:56:28] That's what

[00:56:29] I'm saying like

[00:56:29] he I don't

[00:56:30] think he

[00:56:31] has like a

[00:56:31] like a

[00:56:32] yeah,

[00:56:32] it was

[00:56:32] unwilling

[00:56:33] like

[00:56:34] his it

[00:56:34] was his

[00:56:35] blood

[00:56:35] right?

[00:56:36] So

[00:56:37] that's

[00:56:37] why I'm

[00:56:37] thinking

[00:56:39] like you

[00:56:39] could kill

[00:56:40] it with

[00:56:40] no

[00:56:41] nothing

[00:56:42] bad

[00:56:42] happening

[00:56:43] to you.

[00:56:45] Like his

[00:56:46] soul would

[00:56:46] still be

[00:56:46] complete but

[00:56:47] then I guess

[00:56:48] not because

[00:56:48] he killed

[00:56:49] someone

[00:56:50] in

[00:56:51] and getting

[00:56:51] rid of

[00:56:52] Voldemort.

[00:56:52] Right.

[00:56:54] I just

[00:56:55] think the elder one

[00:56:56] I feel like

[00:56:57] Voldemort's

[00:56:57] wands not

[00:56:58] going to

[00:56:58] work.

[00:56:59] I feel like

[00:56:59] Harry is

[00:56:59] going to

[00:57:00] come back

[00:57:00] Harry and

[00:57:01] Harry's

[00:57:02] gonna have

[00:57:02] both

[00:57:02] wands.

[00:57:04] But how

[00:57:05] did he

[00:57:06] like part of

[00:57:06] the same

[00:57:07] like kind

[00:57:07] of confusing

[00:57:08] wand thing

[00:57:09] where Harry

[00:57:09] is more

[00:57:10] worthy

[00:57:11] and he's

[00:57:11] beaten

[00:57:11] Voldemort

[00:57:12] enough times

[00:57:13] that like

[00:57:13] he's

[00:57:14] the rightful

[00:57:14] owner even

[00:57:15] though we

[00:57:15] think

[00:57:15] Voldemort

[00:57:16] is.

[00:57:17] Well also

[00:57:18] because

[00:57:18] How would

[00:57:18] he be the

[00:57:19] rightful

[00:57:19] owner?

[00:57:19] Yeah,

[00:57:19] that's kind

[00:57:20] of what

[00:57:20] I'm

[00:57:20] saying.

[00:57:21] Because

[00:57:23] well,

[00:57:23] let me

[00:57:24] process.

[00:57:26] I've

[00:57:26] previously

[00:57:27] said that

[00:57:28] he

[00:57:29] that

[00:57:30] the elder

[00:57:30] one is

[00:57:30] going to

[00:57:31] try to

[00:57:31] kill

[00:57:31] Harry

[00:57:32] but

[00:57:32] Harry

[00:57:32] is part

[00:57:33] Voldemort

[00:57:33] so it

[00:57:33] can't

[00:57:34] really

[00:57:34] kill

[00:57:36] his

[00:57:36] owner

[00:57:37] but then

[00:57:37] with

[00:57:38] that

[00:57:38] maybe

[00:57:39] he

[00:57:39] kills

[00:57:40] the

[00:57:40] Horcrux

[00:57:41] part of

[00:57:42] Harry

[00:57:43] which

[00:57:43] also

[00:57:44] sends

[00:57:44] Harry

[00:57:44] into

[00:57:51] but because

[00:57:51] he

[00:57:51] defeated

[00:57:52] death

[00:57:53] now the

[00:57:53] elder one

[00:57:53] can't

[00:57:54] work

[00:57:54] against

[00:57:55] him.

[00:57:57] That is

[00:57:57] interesting.

[00:57:59] Crazy

[00:58:00] interesting

[00:58:00] really

[00:58:01] good

[00:58:01] interesting.

[00:58:01] Honestly,

[00:58:02] that was

[00:58:02] actually

[00:58:03] great

[00:58:03] that

[00:58:04] holy

[00:58:04] smokes.

[00:58:08] And

[00:58:08] so

[00:58:08] it

[00:58:08] can't

[00:58:08] work

[00:58:10] and then

[00:58:10] Harry

[00:58:11] defeated

[00:58:12] death

[00:58:12] and he

[00:58:12] gets

[00:58:13] the elder

[00:58:13] one

[00:58:14] and then

[00:58:14] he's

[00:58:14] got

[00:58:15] both

[00:58:16] and

[00:58:16] Voldemort

[00:58:17] has

[00:58:17] none.

[00:58:17] Yeah.

[00:58:19] Or

[00:58:22] no.

[00:58:23] That's all I get.

[00:58:23] Harry

[00:58:24] like unfortunately

[00:58:25] they made a joke at

[00:58:26] Lucius'

[00:58:27] wand

[00:58:27] but it's kind of sucks

[00:58:28] because Harry

[00:58:29] is only

[00:58:30] using

[00:58:30] Malfoy's

[00:58:31] wand right now

[00:58:32] which is a bit of a

[00:58:33] bummer.

[00:58:34] Bit of a

[00:58:34] bummer.

[00:58:35] I keep thinking back to his Phoenix feather wand

[00:58:37] the little

[00:58:38] nunchuck thing.

[00:58:39] I'm like

[00:58:39] it's not

[00:58:40] fully broken

[00:58:41] like does that

[00:58:42] do anything?

[00:58:42] No,

[00:58:43] it doesn't

[00:58:43] right.

[00:58:44] But it had

[00:58:44] Priory

[00:58:45] and Cantatum

[00:58:46] and then

[00:58:48] Draco's

[00:58:48] wand again.

[00:58:49] I'm like

[00:58:50] what's the deal

[00:58:51] with the

[00:58:52] Draco

[00:58:53] did

[00:58:54] no he didn't defeat

[00:58:54] he did the

[00:58:56] Expelliarmus

[00:58:56] on Dumbledore

[00:58:58] and then

[00:58:58] Harry has saved his life

[00:58:59] like

[00:59:01] twice now

[00:59:02] since then.

[00:59:03] Does that do something?

[00:59:04] Is there a loyalty

[00:59:05] there?

[00:59:06] Is it like

[00:59:07] but then

[00:59:08] Dumbledore said his plan

[00:59:09] was for Snape

[00:59:10] to get it

[00:59:11] then wouldn't he have accounted for

[00:59:13] Snape having to be

[00:59:14] but he killed him.

[00:59:15] I don't know.

[00:59:15] I just keep trying to find a way

[00:59:16] that Harry can have the wand

[00:59:18] but

[00:59:18] none of them are satisfied.

[00:59:19] It's so confusing

[00:59:20] and stuff.

[00:59:20] Jen you have great theories

[00:59:22] for that.

[00:59:22] So

[00:59:23] hold on to your

[00:59:24] your seat belts.

[00:59:24] We have one more though.

[00:59:25] You got another?

[00:59:26] What you got?

[00:59:26] How long was this

[00:59:28] chapter?

[00:59:29] Like in real time?

[00:59:30] Was this minutes

[00:59:31] or was this

[00:59:32] hours

[00:59:32] in real time?

[00:59:33] Because

[00:59:34] I'm not thinking

[00:59:35] when he comes back

[00:59:36] is Voldemort

[00:59:36] still going to be

[00:59:37] standing there

[00:59:38] or is Voldemort

[00:59:38] thinking he defeated

[00:59:39] Harry and then it could be a sneak attack.

[00:59:41] And this is a whole different situation.

[00:59:42] And he comes too

[00:59:43] and then all his friends come

[00:59:45] and

[00:59:46] like

[00:59:47] Harry

[00:59:47] because everyone sees

[00:59:49] you know how

[00:59:50] the adrenaline rush

[00:59:51] or whatever.

[00:59:52] If you saw someone that you cared for die,

[00:59:54] it's like you want revenge even more.

[00:59:56] So like

[00:59:56] does that mean

[00:59:57] people want to even more now

[00:59:59] to defeat the Death Eaters

[01:00:00] and Voldemort

[01:00:01] and are they

[01:00:02] finding out that Harry is dead

[01:00:05] going crazy

[01:00:06] then Harry comes back to life?

[01:00:08] I don't know.

[01:00:09] Those

[01:00:10] that's how my brain works.

[01:00:12] That is a great question.

[01:00:13] Right.

[01:00:14] And

[01:00:15] and that's it.

[01:00:16] I feel like this was maybe

[01:00:19] not real time

[01:00:21] but a little time.

[01:00:22] It wasn't instant.

[01:00:23] So like I think he's going to come back

[01:00:25] and Voldemort is not going to be

[01:00:26] like they're not going to be up there anymore.

[01:00:28] They're going to be somewhere else.

[01:00:30] Well, I guess I'm thinking what happens to the rest of the crew

[01:00:33] if Harry dies?

[01:00:34] What would happen

[01:00:35] and what would they

[01:00:36] would they really just leave Harry's body there?

[01:00:39] Is that in Voldemort's character

[01:00:41] or would he like parade it?

[01:00:44] Yeah, he would

[01:00:45] he would do something to

[01:00:47] wait, would he parade it?

[01:00:48] Have we seen that before?

[01:00:50] Has he done something?

[01:00:51] Like he would

[01:00:52] by like the Hunger Games.

[01:00:54] They like throw up like who died.

[01:00:57] Like look I got Harry.

[01:00:59] Oh, you know what?

[01:01:00] He would do the dark mark.

[01:01:02] Oh yeah.

[01:01:02] He would try and tell everybody that Harry was dead with the dark mark.

[01:01:05] Yeah.

[01:01:05] And

[01:01:07] nice.

[01:01:07] I think a lot of people

[01:01:09] would stop fighting.

[01:01:11] Be defeated.

[01:01:12] Yes.

[01:01:13] But people like Ron Hermione Neville

[01:01:16] they would not stop

[01:01:18] because they'd be so angry it might fuel them.

[01:01:20] I don't know who else would keep fighting

[01:01:22] but I think those three would

[01:01:24] at least Hagrid kind of saw everything.

[01:01:26] So hopefully he survives.

[01:01:29] He can relay

[01:01:31] how things went down.

[01:01:32] Would they just

[01:01:33] well, why is he even alive?

[01:01:35] I'm surprised they kept him tied up though.

[01:01:37] So they don't die.

[01:01:39] But that means they've got some like reason

[01:01:41] they're trying to use him for something.

[01:01:43] Maybe

[01:01:44] he's a hybrid.

[01:01:45] So maybe

[01:01:48] I don't know.

[01:01:49] Interesting.

[01:01:49] I don't know what the plan is a future

[01:01:52] giant breeding program.

[01:01:55] Where did you get that?

[01:01:56] You said he's a hybrid.

[01:01:57] I'm like, what does that matter?

[01:01:59] I'm just saying like it's harder to kill him.

[01:02:01] I don't know.

[01:02:02] Yeah, but I'm glad they didn't

[01:02:04] but I'm like it actually seems out of character again

[01:02:06] for dead people in Baltimore.

[01:02:08] It's the giant breeding program

[01:02:09] that they have going on.

[01:02:10] We have to defeat that.

[01:02:13] All right.

[01:02:13] Give me your favorite moment.

[01:02:14] Hot Tamale and House Cup winner.

[01:02:17] I mean it's

[01:02:18] me myself and I pretty much.

[01:02:26] I mean Harry wins it for me, obviously.

[01:02:29] I like the info dump again.

[01:02:31] Yeah.

[01:02:32] Yeah.

[01:02:32] A little bit more

[01:02:34] or like re

[01:02:36] confirming things we already thought.

[01:02:39] Yep.

[01:02:39] So yeah.

[01:02:41] Yeah, really did just confirm most of the things

[01:02:43] that like gave you a little bit of a

[01:02:45] but with so much more clarity now.

[01:02:47] Yeah, exactly.

[01:02:47] Yeah.

[01:02:48] Yeah.

[01:02:49] I mean we went through the whole book.

[01:02:50] So I hope so.

[01:02:52] Yeah, but even though it's in Harry's head

[01:02:54] it still feels like a funny like

[01:02:56] I think it's clarity.

[01:02:57] It's clarity enough for us

[01:02:59] and enough for Harry.

[01:03:00] Not for you,

[01:03:01] but it also could be untrue,

[01:03:03] you know,

[01:03:06] just in the sense that

[01:03:07] and then Moody comes alive.

[01:03:10] Moody is actually carrying Harry back.

[01:03:13] Oh yeah, nice.

[01:03:15] And his eyes just missing.

[01:03:20] I'm trying to think of a favorite moment.

[01:03:22] So hot tamale.

[01:03:24] Was there even a hot tamale?

[01:03:25] Dumbledore?

[01:03:27] Dumbledore's the hot,

[01:03:28] no, the mist coming off.

[01:03:30] Yeah.

[01:03:30] The mist.

[01:03:31] Why did you say mist?

[01:03:33] Where is that?

[01:03:33] Yeah, at the very end.

[01:03:35] That's the second to last like line.

[01:03:37] His voice sounded loud and strong.

[01:03:38] It was a little creepy thing

[01:03:39] that's like let him be.

[01:03:41] Even though the bright mist was descending again

[01:03:43] obscuring his figure.

[01:03:46] His figure.

[01:03:48] Naked figure.

[01:03:50] In the rope.

[01:03:53] I feel like my favorite moment was,

[01:03:54] I like all the reveals,

[01:03:55] but I just liked the moment of realizing

[01:03:58] Harry is not dead dead,

[01:03:59] you know,

[01:04:00] because the last chapter ends

[01:04:01] and we're like he can't be,

[01:04:03] but we still had to get confirmation,

[01:04:05] you know,

[01:04:05] so then it's like,

[01:04:06] alright,

[01:04:06] there's something more happening.

[01:04:07] So that there's there's hope again.

[01:04:09] I feel like that was good.

[01:04:11] Yeah,

[01:04:12] she does that.

[01:04:12] So it's like the up and down emotions.

[01:04:16] It's great.

[01:04:17] That's good.

[01:04:17] I think my favorite is just Dumbledore

[01:04:20] like doting on Harry

[01:04:21] and really saying how remarkable he is,

[01:04:23] which is funny.

[01:04:24] If this is happening on Harry's head

[01:04:26] and he's just his own best hype man.

[01:04:27] He's like Harry,

[01:04:28] you're great.

[01:04:29] You're so brave.

[01:04:30] Exactly.

[01:04:30] You're the best.

[01:04:31] Oh my gosh.

[01:04:32] So awesome.

[01:04:34] He's like,

[01:04:34] I know Dumbledore would think I'm awesome.

[01:04:38] Voldemort's got the elder wand.

[01:04:40] His humility.

[01:04:41] Yeah,

[01:04:42] seriously.

[01:04:42] Yeah.

[01:04:43] That is like a shocking one.

[01:04:45] Yeah,

[01:04:46] we're not shocking,

[01:04:46] but it's like a comforting Dumbledore

[01:04:48] really showing true humility there.

[01:04:53] All right.

[01:04:53] Well,

[01:04:54] you ready to listen to the last two chapters?

[01:04:58] Well,

[01:04:58] thanks for joining us on this journey of Harry Potter

[01:05:01] and the first time readers.

[01:05:03] Until next time.

[01:05:17] Also,

[01:05:18] how sad is this that I never noticed that she's in the first cover.

[01:05:24] The first page.

[01:05:25] Yeah,

[01:05:25] I couldn't think of her name.

[01:05:27] She's like,

[01:05:29] right there.

[01:05:30] I don't like this.

[01:05:31] I don't want it to end.

[01:05:33] I kind of like want to never know how it ends.

[01:05:38] We can just take a breather.