Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Ch 24-25
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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Ch 24-25

Chapter 24 - The Wandmaker

  • “I want to do it properly,” were the first words of which Harry was fully conscious of speaking. “Not by magic. Have you got a spade?” And shortly afterward he had set to work, alone, digging the grave in the place that Bill had shown him at the end of the garden, between bushes. He dug with a kind of fury, relishing the manual work, glorying in the non-magic of it, for every drop of his sweat and every blister felt like a gift to the elf who had saved their lives. 

Q1 - Why did Harry want to do this without magic?

  • “No,” Harry said, and Bill looked startled. “I need both of them here. I need to talk to them. It’s important.” He heard the authority in his own voice, the conviction, the sense of purpose that had come to him as he dug Dobby’s grave. All of their faces were turned toward him, looking puzzled. 
  • Dobby would never be able to tell them who had sent him to the cellar, but Harry knew what he had seen. A piercing blue eye had looked out of the mirror fragment, and then help had come. Help will always be given at Hogwarts to those who ask for it.

Q2 - What’s the deal with the mirror?

  • You gave Ron the Deluminator. You understood him. . . . You gave him a way back. . . . And you understood Wormtail too. . . . You knew there was a bit of regret there, somewhere. . . . And if you knew them . . . What did you know about me, Dumbledore? Am I meant to know, but not to seek? Did you know how hard I’d find that? Is that why you made it this difficult? So I’d have time to work that out?

Q3 - Do you think he’s right about Dumbledore here?

Q4 - They’re going to break into Gringotts? Are they going to succeed?

  • “I took this wand from Draco Malfoy by force,” said Harry. “Can I use it safely?” “I think so. Subtle laws govern wand ownership, but the conquered wand will usually bend its will to its new master.” 

Q5 - Is Harry truly the master of Draco’s wand?

  • Yes, if you won it, it is more likely to do your bidding, and do it well, than another wand.” “And this holds true for all wands, does it?” asked Harry. “I think so,” replied Ollivander, his protuberant eyes upon Harry’s face. “You ask deep questions, Mr. Potter. Wandlore is a complex and mysterious branch of magic.” “So, it isn’t necessary to kill the previous owner to take true possession of a wand?” asked Harry. Ollivander swallowed. “Necessary? No, I should not say that it is necessary to kill.” 

Q6 - Do you think this is true? That wands can pass without killing?

  • “You told him about the twin cores? You said he just had to borrow another wizard’s wand?” Ollivander looked horrified, transfixed, by the amount that Harry knew. He nodded slowly. “But it didn’t work,” Harry went on. “Mine still beat the borrowed wand. Do you know why that is?” Ollivander shook his head as slowly as he had just nodded. “I had . . . never heard of such a thing. Your wand performed something unique that night. The connection of the twin cores is incredibly rare, yet why your wand should have snapped the borrowed wand, I do not know. . . .” 

Q7 - Why do you think Harry’s wand acted like this?

  • “Gregorovitch had the Elder Wand a long time ago,” he said. “I saw You-Know-Who trying to find him. When he tracked him down, he found that Gregorovitch didn’t have it anymore: It was stolen from him by Grindelwald. How Grindelwald found out that Gregorovitch had it, I don’t know — but if Gregorovitch was stupid enough to spread the rumor, it can’t have been that difficult.” Voldemort was at the gates of Hogwarts; Harry could see him standing there, and see too the lamp bobbing in the pre-dawn, coming closer and closer. “And Grindelwald used the Elder Wand to become powerful. And at the height of his power, when Dumbledore knew he was the only one who could stop him, he dueled Grindelwald and beat him, and he took the Elder Wand.” “Dumbledore had the Elder Wand?” said Ron. “But then — where is it now?” 

Q8 - What do you think about this?

  • And here it was, beside the lake, reflected in the dark waters. The white marble tomb, an unnecessary blot on the familiar landscape. He felt again that rush of controlled euphoria, that heady sense of purpose in destruction. He raised the old yew wand: How fitting that this would be its last great act. The tomb split open from head to foot. The shrouded figure was as long and thin as it had been in life. He raised the wand again. The wrappings fell open. The face was translucent, pale, sunken, yet almost perfectly preserved. They had left his spectacles on the crooked nose: He felt amused derision. Dumbledore’s hands were folded upon his chest, and there it lay, clutched beneath them, buried with him. Had the old fool imagined that marble or death would protect the wand? Had he thought that the Dark Lord would be scared to violate his tomb? The spiderlike hand swooped and pulled the wand from Dumbledore’s grasp, and as he took it, a shower of sparks flew from its tip, sparkling over the corpse of its last owner, ready to serve a new master at last. 

Chapter 25 - Shell Cottage

  • “Harry admits he could have imagined the eye! Don’t you, Harry?” “I could have,” said Harry without looking at her. “But you don’t think you did, do you?” asked Ron. “No, I don’t,” said Harry. “There you go!” said Ron quickly, before Hermione could carry on. “If it wasn’t Dumbledore, explain how Dobby knew we were in the cellar, Hermione?” “I can’t — but can you explain how Dumbledore sent him to us if he’s lying in a tomb at Hogwarts?”

Q1 - Is Dumbledore alive?

Q2 - Does the sword really belong to Goblins?

Q3 - Do you think he plan will go well with Griphook?

  • “So, au revoir, Mr. Ollivander,” said Fleur, kissing him on both cheeks. “And I wonder whezzer you could oblige me by delivering a package to Bill’s Auntie Muriel? I never returned ’er tiara.” “It will be an honor,” said Ollivander with a little bow, “the very least I can do in return for your generous hospitality.” Fleur drew out a worn velvet case, which she opened to show the wandmaker. The tiara sat glittering and twinkling in the light from the low-hanging lamp. “Moonstones and diamonds,” said Griphook, who had sidled into the room without Harry noticing. “Made by goblins, I think?” 

Q4 - Could Danny’s tiara theory be right all along?

  • Lupin fell over the threshold. He was white-faced, wrapped in a traveling cloak, his graying hair windswept. He straightened up, looked around the room, making sure of who was there, then cried aloud, “It’s a boy! We’ve named him Ted, after Dora’s father!” Hermione shrieked. “Wha — ? Tonks — Tonks has had the baby?” “Yes, yes, she’s had the baby!” shouted Lupin. All around the table came cries of delight, sighs of relief: Hermione and Fleur both squealed, “Congratulations!” and Ron said, “Blimey, a baby!” as if he had never heard of such a thing before. “Yes — yes — a boy,” said Lupin again, who seemed dazed by his own happiness. He strode around the table and hugged Harry; the scene in the basement of Grimmauld Place might never have happened. “You’ll be godfather?” he said as he released Harry. “M-me?” stammered Harry “You, yes, of course — Dora quite agrees, no one better —” “I — yeah — blimey —” 

Q5 - What do you think about Lupin and Tonks having a baby?

  • Harry had an ominous feeling now; he wondered whether Bill guessed more than he was letting on. “All I am saying,” said Bill, setting his hand on the door back into the sitting room, “is to be very careful what you promise goblins, Harry. It would be less dangerous to break into Gringotts than to renege on a promise to a goblin.” 

Q6 - Are they dumb to trust Griphook?

[00:00:00] Yes, I was right.

[00:00:03] By what?

[00:00:04] Dumbledore and the wand.

[00:00:06] Yeah.

[00:00:07] Right?

[00:00:08] I did say that?

[00:00:09] I think so.

[00:00:10] What did you say?

[00:00:11] Dumbledore and the wand.

[00:00:12] How Grgorevitch?

[00:00:13] Yeah.

[00:00:14] I got the right G.

[00:00:15] Grgorevitch had it first.

[00:00:17] Oh, now.

[00:00:18] Grgorevitch had it first.

[00:00:19] Grgorevitch had it first.

[00:00:20] Oh, now.

[00:00:21] Grgorevitch had it first.

[00:00:22] Oh, now.

[00:00:23] Grgorevitch had it first.

[00:00:24] Oh, now.

[00:00:25] Grgorevitch had it first.

[00:00:26] Oh, now.

[00:00:27] Grgorevitch had it first.

[00:00:28] Oh, now. The wand, yeah, like, it just feels like it must, it would be pretty special to have Dumbledore's wand anyway because it's done so much, but if a wand is choosing a more powerful wizard, Ollivander just told us that it's like, it kind of gravitates towards the one who defeated it, or kind of like something. The one bond. What's what about the one bond between, but yeah, I just, well, I'm trying to think of all the possibilities and it just feels like not, this is not the way to get the elder wand. Okay. So if it is, it is not loyal to Voldemort.

[00:03:00] And if it isn't, where is it?

[00:03:01] Okay.

[00:03:02] So yeah.

[00:03:02] So that's the question.

[00:03:03] Do you think it is the elder wand?

[00:03:05] If it's not, where is it?

[00:04:01] and you use some other wand. Like that's like.

[00:04:02] I know, but I feel like Dumbledore would do that

[00:04:04] because it's like the death, like the story behind the wand.

[00:04:08] If you have, yeah, if you have the elder one, the death stick,

[00:04:10] it's like your other one is going to pale in comparison.

[00:04:14] But is that why Dumbledore is considered the greatest wizard of all time?

[00:04:17] Because he has because he had the wand.

[00:04:19] Like would he was he greater before that?

[00:04:22] Like he defeated Grindelwald, which is impressive.

[00:04:25] But what went on in that relationship? but yeah no I think but then when they were like the duel and he like surrendered to Donald or Grindelwald is that what you think it was a surrender I think it was just a fake thing to like get people to talk and to see like to seem like the power shift or something I don't know the fake thing I liked it

[00:05:44] until we saw Grindelwald and he was like nearly dead in the top of this tower a lot of interesting stuff, but welcome to the podcast. I'm John, Danny and Kristen. And this is Harry Potter and the first time readers.

[00:07:02] Hey, go follow us on all the stuff that you should follow us on.

[00:07:05] That's pretty much all I gotta say. Go, uh,

[00:07:07] mainly subscribe to us on YouTube and become a member. It must've been the one he was just using though this whole time, right? The elder one was the one that you used to use the whole time, right? That is not what I thought though. I just don't like the idea of having multiple wands. That doesn't feel- Why? Other people have it, don't they? I don't maybe know. This is not a fair comparison, but I'm just thinking of like wives. We're making a wand comparison. Oh my gosh. Some people have multiple wands,

[00:08:20] but I don't like it, you know what I mean?

[00:08:22] And so it's like-

[00:08:23] Wait, what did you just compare to?

[00:08:25] You just compared wives to wands.

[00:08:27] Wives to wands.

[00:08:28] Oh my gosh. people are trained to know what it looks like and the feel of it and it has a stamp on it of authentication. So if people, this rumors would be going around because he's a very public figure Dumbledore and he's using a wand that like everyone's like, Oh, he has elder one. So your theory is wrong. Nice. Wait, let's get that on the flip and put it on the screen.

[00:09:41] The stamp threw me off.

[00:09:42] I'd have to go read it again.

[00:09:43] I mean, I it loyal to him? I don't think so. Um, so lots of questions, but I kind of don't think this is the real deal. Wow. Okay. Interesting.

[00:11:05] But then I'm curious where it is and there are still a lot of open ends.

[00:11:08] Well, we'll go down both roads in a little bit, What if it was Dumbledore's ring that he was wearing? The ring is power. It wasn't a horcrux. It wasn't a ring of anything else. It was a ring of authenticity and he used to test the wand to confirm that it was the Elder Wand. So in my mind, I was listening. I don't know why. I'm thinking of a red ring around the bottom of it as a stamp.

[00:12:22] And honestly, it could be. It honestly could be.

[00:12:24] This is the Elder Wand.

[00:12:25] Imagine that. You just do a certain spell because it takes effort. It takes effort. Ooh. Yeah. Nice way to say it.

[00:13:41] But it's weird that he said properly,

[00:13:44] like the muggle way is theuggle ways. I liked that Harry said that was the proper way to do it. And I like what you're saying that effort. I feel like there is something to be said for that. And it kind of shows that Harry still views some of the magic as being a shortcut, and not necessarily a good one either. You know, taking the easy way to do something and some things are worth taking more effort to learn the hard way.

[00:15:02] Yeah. Even with this, there'd be two. Yeah, there was. I thought it was. Right? Okay. So where's the other one? Yeah. Great question. With dummel door hiding. In a cave somewhere with dummel door. I'm glad that was not just in my head and that was actually a fact. No, yeah. It's been a fact for a while. All right. Good. But I like clarifying.

[00:16:20] And so if the mirror was on Sirius when he is actually the veil over this little archway. But I just can't picture how this mirror ends up somewhere where Dumbledore has it. And we just went to Dumbledore's grave and he was there. Right. So it just feels weird like how at Hogwarts, right? Is what? Yeah, like it sounds like it was down by the lake

[00:17:43] at Hogwarts. I missed that. So that's why I wanted to

[00:17:45] confirm. And this wasobby was a fair option. I know. I said I thought Dobby had blue eyes, right? Would you be able to differentiate Dobby's eyes and double-tor's eyes? It couldn't be Dobby's eyes. Couldn't be- Polyjuice. Yeah, exactly. We viewed the mirrors as communicating to each other, but what if it wasn't that?

[00:19:01] Oh, I also said it was Harry's parents, right?

[00:19:04] But it would have to be green.

[00:19:06] Most of your theories are dead people.

[00:19:08] Yeah, yeah, I'm not necessarily either, but just I'm just saying the idea of like, even when you your body dies, a part of you remains and we're trying to figure out what that looks like. And Voldemort is doing the most unhealthy extreme. Then ghosts seem to be another unhealthy extreme. Then whatever was in Voldemort's wand that were helping

[00:20:20] him in the graveyard when Harry was like fighting things. But I feel like there is a genuine possibility he's still alive, but I don't know where he'd be and what he'd be doing and it might not be true at all. I just wanna, I wanna do something so. When they reset one, so we go back to that phrase where he's like, if you ask Hogwarts, we'll help you or whatever. Help will be given to those who ask at Hogwarts.

[00:21:40] Okay, yeah.

[00:21:42] Pretty much.

[00:21:43] But the part that gets me is Hogwarts.

[00:21:44] But Dobby is not of Hogwarts, he's a free elf,

[00:21:48] so that's a tough one. There's two lines, I love Harry's conviction in this chapter when they're like gonna take the two people away and Harry goes, no. And Bill looks startled. I need both of them here. I need to talk to them, it's important. He heard the authority in his own voice, the conviction,

[00:23:00] the sense of purpose that had come to him

[00:23:01] as he dug Dobby's grave.

[00:23:03] All their faces were turned toward him looking puzzled.

[00:23:06] And then he has this plan. And again, just reinforcing that thing of like, he needed to be betrayed by some, it's like the idea of like that betrayal was all part of, was that directly in the mic? Nice. I'm sorry. Everybody. Well, that's your mic. I'm here.

[00:24:26] Okay.

[00:24:27] Nice.

[00:24:27] Nice. he was so convicted about that thing Dumbledore said, this mission is for you guys. And even that, Dumbledore did say, don't tell anyone, right, specifically? Yeah, just like the three of them are supposed to know. So there is a deep trust where Harry's saying, Dumbledore said this, we're gonna do it. But Dumbledore also said, look for the Horcruxes, right? Like, kind of directly.

[00:25:40] Also, why isn't he trying to figure out

[00:25:42] the snitch thing, too?

[00:25:44] Yeah, it does feel like he kind of gave up.

[00:25:46] He kind of like put that on the back burner,

[00:25:47] but like, what if want them to know about the Hallows? Oh, he should have just said, I feel like he should have went along with it though. Like, hey, like when he was teet, oh, it makes me so angry. What? The pensive, right? He's showing him all of these like history of Voldemort when he was a child and da da da, to find these horcruxes.

[00:27:00] And in that meantime, he could have been saying,

[00:27:03] there is also a juxtaposed...

[00:27:07] Nice word. Something. How does this change the conversation knowing that Dumbledore was possibly in possession of one of the Hallows? Are all three of them? Literally could be all three. He's got the wand, Harry's got the cloak, and he had potentially the ring or the stone if it was from the first blow. But then that means if he had all three, could he actually be alive?

[00:28:21] Dumbledore.

[00:28:24] But how though?

[00:28:25] I'm just saying it's to be dead, right? point that they said, you learn these stories growing up as a wizard, but if you're Muggle born or whatever, you're not going to hear about them. Okay. So he probably was clueless about this and maybe he's piecing it together or maybe he thinks only the one exists. I guess the weird part to me is why Dumbledore would be so careful not to share it with Harry.

[00:29:40] Cause he could get,

[00:29:42] well what I'm saying is it sounds like Dumbledore already had all of them.

[00:29:45] So what's the fear? Like what's Voldemort going to do if, if he had them all?

[00:30:42] more prophecies we don't know about. There might be other weird things to that.

[00:30:45] But I don't know, something about it feels strange.

[00:30:50] And I can't figure out what.

[00:30:52] And like I had also said in, what's it called,

[00:30:54] Nermangard, Grindelwald being there.

[00:30:59] Was anyone else there?

[00:31:00] Oh, that's the jail where Grindelwald was kept.

[00:31:03] And he's in the topmost cell.

[00:31:05] Well then, if that's the topmost cell,

[00:31:06] what are all the other cells?

[00:31:07] And who's in there and why? did say that in different words. No, that was Jen's fault. I feel like she kind of knew how she was. You didn't. I don't know. They just come out. Yeah. Well, that's, that makes sense to me. And again, it reinforces like, Ollivander kind of explained too, that once you, if you win a wand in battle, there's one of those things where it kind of depends. Depends on the one because he kept saying, well, it work for me. He's like, I think it will. Right. Like every time they're like they have all these ones to use. Yep. And he's like, I think it'll be OK. Because he said he's talked about how Belchris is one is unyielding.

[00:33:40] And then he said this this one was the wand.

[00:33:45] Oh, yeah. Every one.

[00:33:46] Didn't he say all of them were. Yeah. Yeah. But on top of that, Jen's theory, I think, is a little closer because it seems like in this moment, he holds the wand up, he recognizes who it's by, but then he seems like he's talking about ownership here, where he's like, this belonged to Bellatrix, but then it belonged to her, but he says, now it's unyielding, don't use this wand.

[00:35:00] And then he says, this was the wand of Draco Malfoy.

[00:35:03] Here he goes, was?

[00:35:04] And he goes, its one. I felt like when he left, right? Like he left his wand in his finger or something. Yeah, probably, probably make it convincing. He probably had to. Yeah, that's a great, great point. That's how I... Yeah, could be. So I just thought that was interesting. Like, oh, he finally got a wand after how long being with Voldemort, like...

[00:36:22] Yeah, wandless with Voldemort.

[00:36:24] He wouldn't let him have a wand?

[00:36:26] That is, yeah, kind of sad. Maybe I read into it more because of hearing it. But I feel like he was trying to hold back, saying like, I felt as though if you killed someone, like maybe it is a more powerful connection, but he's not gonna tell them that because why would you tell someone you should kill someone to get their wand?

[00:37:41] Yeah, that seems extreme.

[00:37:45] Or maybe he just never experienced that.

[00:38:40] Interesting, yeah. So they're not dead.

[00:38:42] So they're, yeah, so they're not dead.

[00:38:43] So, but, Ollivander's saying,

[00:38:44] and then it reminded me of the,

[00:38:47] green, what are they called?

[00:38:50] Goblins?

[00:38:50] Goblins, thank you.

[00:38:52] Green, I know it's not green guys,

[00:38:54] but I was like, who's there?

[00:38:56] When they were talking about the maker of the item,

[00:39:02] I don't know why this is a connection to me,

[00:39:03] this makes no sense, I if a person does die, then it's like, okay, blanks, blank slate. Anybody can pick me up and use me. Yeah. Um, that's a fascinating theory. I like that. Yeah. Danny, what do you think?

[00:40:21] I think it's a pretty good thing.

[00:40:25] I have no thoughts right now.

[00:40:28] There's too much information. perform something unique that night. The connection of the twin cores is incredibly rare. Yet why your wand should have snapped the borrower's wand, I do not know. Why did Harry's wand act like that? So, Ollivander doesn't know, so we're not gonna know if any theories on why Harry's wand acted like that.

[00:41:43] But if I'm going with my theory, it's not Voldemort's wand.

[00:41:45] Yeah, yep.

[00:41:46] So, maybe there's something in that. necessarily think so but maybe because ollivander said the wand seeks experience right like something like mutual experience the wisdom comes from experience so can can wands gain wisdom hmm interesting wand learning from the wizard wizard from the wand and then if there is a moral to the wand would wands i'm wondering if uh if the wand of a dark kind of like, you know, like when you're breaking a horse, you have to kind of get on this horse that does not want to yield and you can train it to yield kind of quickly if you know what you're doing. So I'm curious if the wand would be the same thing. Baltimore is so good that he grabs a wand that doesn't want to yield to him and he makes it yield very quickly and it becomes his.

[00:44:21] Or he can like, he's good enough that it doesn't matter anyway. No. Has Harry had any interaction with Lucius Malfoy's wand? I was trying to think about that too. Like in school? Just in general, because I'm trying to think of in that battle, Voldemort was using Lucius wand. Did that wand, was it unwilling to defeat Harry because of some history? I just can't think of if there was anything. Wait, how did they get all these

[00:45:42] wands anyway? Well, who's they get all the ones? So how did then, no. Well, you know what else is funny there? It's something about that feels proper, much like the physical way of burying someone feels so proper. If you just walk up and grab a wand out of someone's hand, you don't even need magic. You're, you're just doing it the old fashioned way. I feel like there's something to be said for that. Kind of the way that the elder wand passed for people who had just stolen it. Like, because

[00:47:03] that's happened with the elder wand. Remember a bunch of times where people would steal kind of when we'll have this little discussion. Ollivander gives this line. He says, Gregorovich had the Elder Wand a long time ago. He said, I saw you know who trying to find him. When he tracked him down, he found that Gregorovich didn't have it anymore. It was stolen from him by Grindelwald. How Grindelwald found out that Gregorovich had it, I don't know.

[00:48:20] But if Gregorovich was stupid enough to spread the rumor,

[00:48:23] it can't have been that difficult.

[00:48:25] Voldemort was at the gate of Hogwarts.

[00:48:27] Here you could see him standing there. and there could be spells that are deeper on this. Like we had, for example, we know that Hermione had everyone in Dumbledore's army sign a contract. If you do certain things, something automatically happens. What if Voldemort forced a lavender to sign some contract? It's a magical bond. Well, you like pull these things from like books ago

[00:49:42] and you're like, yeah, that's what this is.

[00:49:45] No, I'm just saying it's all possible.

[00:49:46] And that would be something that even if Voldemort going to be Danny's side podcast. Danny and my thoughts. He's going to reread Harry Potter. He's the podcast going to be Danny, my thoughts, all these crazy things. But see, it's once we know the answer, everything, there's no more fun for speculation, but while we don't know, all we do know is Harry still doesn't fully trust all of Andrew. He didn't, which I think Jen, you were going to point that out, right?

[00:51:01] Wait, the first book that Harry doesn't fully trust him. Trust who?

[00:52:05] So Harry didn't trust him, trust his instincts.

[00:52:09] Harry has good instincts about people most of the time, except crouched.

[00:52:09] So you think that all of Anders lying to Harry.

[00:52:13] Yeah.

[00:52:16] Snape, maybe Dumbledore.

[00:52:19] What's his face?

[00:52:20] It's Juan maker.

[00:52:20] Night bus driver.

[00:52:21] Oh yeah, Stan Shum's life.

[00:52:24] Toward the end.

[00:52:27] For us it's like yeah it's like an obsession for him maybe it's like an unhealthy obsession because he's been captive you know so I assume Dumbledore came to him about the twin wand thing originally he probably did his digging priori and Kent Adam talked to Dumbledore. I'm surprised he didn't kill him.

[00:55:02] Yeah. Yeah yeah agreed. But I feel like he's a muggle. Could be true. World. Could be true. Anyways, that's just. Dumbledore just go back to the time turner and just, you know, Oh, nice. Yeah. Take care of business. Your finish. This is the last line in the chapter,

[00:56:21] then we'll go on to the next one unless you want to talk about anything else in this.

[00:56:23] But it says,

[00:57:22] The rider-like hand swooped and pulled a wand from Dumbledore's grasp, and as he took it,

[00:57:24] a shower of sparks flew from its tip,

[00:57:27] sparkling over the corpse of its last owner,

[00:57:29] ready to serve a new master at last.

[00:57:35] It is funny that we kept saying words, Dumbledore's wand.

[00:57:38] Yeah, you guys did have that question all the time.

[00:57:40] I kept asking.

[00:57:40] Here you go, there's the answer for it.

[00:57:42] Hmm.

[00:57:45] Very interesting.

[00:57:46] It's funny with the sword who would, whoever was behind dropping the Gryffindor sword maybe has the wand too. Could be. You know what's weird though? If that's the elder wand,

[00:59:03] the rightful owner, I was going to say it was going to be Snape,

[01:00:03] see a redemption from Draco because I was just even saying the other day how it wasn't reasonable. This wasn't enough to make up for all the bad things he did because he got

[01:00:07] Dumbledore killed. But if he gets his hands on the other one in a little bit and does

[01:00:11] some some good old stuff, then you know, but also I feel like Draco would be corrupted

[01:00:16] so fast if he had the power of the other wand. Yeah, I don't. I'm not very optimistic about

[01:00:22] him being able to wield that power for good. I think if he got power, even if he could Harry's vault or the vault? Honestly, in theory either, not Belltrix, it would have to be Harry's, but where your treasure is there, your heart will be. What if it's the most basic form of that, where your treasure is? Harry, you're loaded, all of your treasure is in your vault, Edgar and Goth's, go to your vault, Edgar and Goth's. Wait, does Dumbledore have a? Well, Hogwarts does because that's where they went to get the stone at the beginning of book one.

[01:01:40] Remember with Hagrid?

[01:01:41] So then what if it's in there?

[01:01:42] It could be.

[01:01:43] And that would, again, make a ton of sense.

[01:01:46] The wand sitting in the vault there.

[01:01:48] The other thing I thought, more like stuff in place to make sure goblins don't use wands. I'm just saying, but that's what I found so interesting. Like, all right. Why don't we all give the goblins wands now? And then we fight against dumb. Um, not the Voldemort together. Yeah. Like why? I don't understand. I don't know. I don't know if they, they're billed mittentuses in the next chapter.

[01:03:00] Their loyalty is weird.

[01:03:01] They're not really, they're like loyal to themselves, but, uh,

[01:03:06] what if they were given wands?

[01:03:08] That's what I'm just saying. return the sword, like try and set things in rightful order. What if, I mean this would never happen because he's obsessed with the sword, but what if the goblin, I can't think of his name. Rip hook. What if they're like, how about we give you this extra wand and we'll teach you how to use it? Mm-hmm. Instead of giving you the sword. Mm-hmm. That is interesting. I know it wouldn't work because he's obsessed with it,

[01:04:21] but I'm just saying, what if he's like,

[01:04:23] okay, we'll trade you, like,

[01:04:25] we'll teach you how to use the wands,

[01:04:27] and then let's see how powerful you are. where the werewolves are like, yeah, we can keep them warm. I just feel like you're going to die regardless if you're on his side or not. So like, don't be on his side. Yeah, everyone band against them. Yeah, we're good. All right. We will talk about some of this in the next chapter, but next chapter is Shell Cottage. Quick summary of this one. Tonkson Lupin had the baby named Harry Godfather,

[01:05:41] and Grippook wants the sword in exchange for his help into Gringotts.

[01:05:44] Yeah, perfect.

[01:05:46] You're like just hashing a plant to get into Gringotts. things. It kind of makes sense in a way. I was like kind of following that like, okay, we sold it to that owner and when they're done with it, it goes back to the maker and maybe you sell it again, but you don't keep passing it down. I just thought that was kind of interesting. It did. It did make sense. What the goblins were thinking of being're working for us. Um, I think they should just make this the new normal and maybe it is the normal now, but the problem is you have all of these old objects. Um, I'm thinking of even, uh, when we were in Greece, it kind of reminds me of some of that because this is the dynamic hanging out now in between Greece and England,

[01:08:21] where England obtained all of these things from the Parthenon in Athens and they rightfully some great grandfather makes something, builds it, it gets bought, bought, bought, and then a great grandchild wants to buy it back. They have a certain, my grandpa made that, I want that, that belongs in my family, why do you have it? But how do you reconcile? Like the show I'm watching. Oh yeah? The lake or a lake? Oh, I heard when something about a house, yeah.

[01:09:41] So I feel like that does happen in the Muggle world.

[01:09:44] But how do you make it right?

[01:09:45] How do you think the plan is going to go? I think he's going to get mad because he's like you promised me and then they're like being sneaky about it. And it also felt funny that I'm like the sword isn't theirs to give.

[01:11:04] It's it's funny that they actually feel like it's it's their right complete the task. But we will give it back when we're done. It'll be yours. Or can we borrow it? It is yours, but we're gonna borrow it until we finish this task or something. Do you think that there could be anything else in the vault other than a Horcrux? Are you guys convinced that it's a Horcrux in this vault?

[01:12:20] 80%.

[01:12:21] I don't know.

[01:12:22] You're very convinced?

[01:12:24] No, no, no, no.

[01:12:25] I'm not sure what else is in there.

[01:12:26] I feel like it's a, part of whatever. We've done it a bunch of times, like randomly, but then we just don't know enough to know. So every time we're like, is that right? Is it not? And we're always speculating about things like the invisibility cloak or whatever. Yeah, right now let's do quick inventory over it. So the diary, we're convinced that the diary is Horcrux. Danny, are we convinced that it's a Horcrux?

[01:13:40] I got my list.

[01:13:41] Let me put it out.

[01:13:41] So the diary is for sure.

[01:13:43] We'll say the diary is one.

[01:13:45] The ring.

[01:13:46] The ring is one.

[01:13:47] The locket.

[01:13:47] The locket's one. Well, that'd be awesome if Bellatrix was a casual thing. She just said it when she came walking in. And then they all just are like, boom, boom, boom. And then we're done. So the book ends next chapter. I'm fine with that. I like that.

[01:15:02] The diadem of Ravenclaw, the lost diadem.

[01:15:06] So that actually tells us even more than we thought.

[01:15:08] It's lost. be the tiara and I keep thinking back to that silly thing Harry marked his um he knew which closet or a little wardrobe he was hiding something in in the room of requirement but I forget if that was a bust or a tiara or both but it was something that felt like special I think it was tiara because you said it like a thousand times yeah tiara okay so we've got a couple tiara's

[01:16:22] it could be that one in fact maybe it was that one and then they found it in the room of requirement Yeah. Yeah. So the pet roll family. Well, I don't know if they're good or evil. It seems like a bit of a mixed bag based on the fairy tale. Um, but that is not the same. Oh wait. Okay. Those are the, that's the deathly hollow family. Yeah.

[01:17:40] But then they were, but then I said to Voldemort's grandfather, was that the line it was going

[01:17:48] down? especially these pure blood mania people, if you're only able to marry between 27 families, you're sharing great grandparents with everybody basically, or at least great, great grandparents. There'd be so much crossover. And that's why I'm just like, not sure if any of the stuff with the blood really it off because he had to stay focused in the moment. So in huge moments of stress, even in this moment, he's like, this is a little less moment of stress for him, but it's like a moment of resolve. But it's funny because he goes out and talks to Hermione and Ron,

[01:20:21] and he's like, I know that I need to

[01:20:25] like look into his mind to, the piece in it. I like the piece. Yeah, I can be wrong. I don't know. I love that idea. Things as I was reading it. I just thought it was also what Dumbledore wanted him to do, right? It's a turn it off the Oh, yeah. So like, in a way, it connects like you're saying to where he was like, trusting him and then okay, I'm

[01:21:41] going to obey you to write, write, don't want me. Nobody wants to. Tell me what to do. Nobody wants you, but it is good. Just like give me the information so I can do it. You mean we don't know what to do? I know, exactly. So we can close the book. Yeah, I will spark notes it. Literally and figuratively. I've always sparked notes. Well, me too. That's how I survived school.

[01:23:00] Somebody tells me to read a book, that's what I did.

[01:23:02] I think I read like two books fully.

[01:23:07] Plus Twilight series.

[01:23:08] You read through. Was that actually Lupin? Was there something else going on there? Or was it just weird emotion? Either way, I'm glad it's in the past. Whatever Harry goes up to me and says, I'm so sorry about the thing we had at Grindelow Place. And Lupin's like, what? What thing? I haven't been there in years. Yeah. I thought he was going to quiz him about what he first saw as his Patron, or whatever.

[01:24:20] Remember the thing he quizzed him on the first time?

[01:24:22] Yeah.

[01:24:23] In the class.

[01:24:23] The Grindelow?

[01:24:24] What was in the corner of my office the first time we-

[01:24:27] Yeah. he stayed and hung out. And like we had said before, and got drunk, they would have noticed in long exposure with someone if something was up because they know him well enough. Well, I thought it was interesting. They kept giving him drinks. I'm like, guys, he has to go back to his house and like be on alert on his way back.

[01:25:43] I just thought that was dumb. Um, yeah,

[01:25:49] he's operating under the influence. Yeah. So the yeah, it is a really interesting question. Did the that goblin make it for Gryffindor or did he just take it? Like, what is the it's a really interesting question for that?

[01:27:01] Because in this chapter, you kind of trust

[01:27:05] Ripok with a little bit, but like't know if they have a lot of other choices, but I do feel like this opened up bigger things that Harry can do now for the future of the wizarding

[01:28:24] world. And even, it sounds weird even to the final questions, I just, uh, do you have anything else in this chapter before I ask one more question before the finals? Um, scaring me. No, this is just what your, what are your predictions for the next chapter? Cause we're going to listen to it. I don't know. Every time they do something, something goes wrong.

[01:29:43] So I'm expecting that.

[01:29:46] And who's going to go?

[01:30:45] out anywhere. So I feel like he'd have to be the one to do it. And it feels like using it to get into Gringotts would be good. Who are they gonna transform it to? Who are they

[01:30:49] gonna use it for? It has to be someone that isn't on the run. Oh my gosh, what if they

[01:30:58] had Bellatrix's hair somehow with the wand? Oh interesting. And then it's Grippook and

[01:31:04] Bellatrix walking into her own vault. That would have been so die. Yeah. Fuck a hair. She doesn't have her wand though, so that is something. Yeah. Very susceptible. Oh my gosh. And you would have the wand too. You'd look so wobbly. I know. It'd be convincing. I like that Luna was talking about the crumple horn snork cack. Yeah. And she said that it was, it likes, oh, you, you have to hum.

[01:32:24] They prefer a waltz.

[01:32:25] Yeah. Yeah. Yummy. Um, about the baby. Well, sure. Yeah. Yeah. He loves babies. Um, it's just an interesting. Oh, I was trying to count the people at the table when they were choosing, but they stood

[01:33:40] up.

[01:33:41] They didn't sit down.

[01:33:42] I think we're all right.

[01:33:43] They didn't dine together.

[01:33:44] Oh, is we had discussed a little bit.

[01:33:47] Wait, were there, were should have given the Tiara more secretly since Bill knew how goblins get with that kind of stuff. They should have been discreet. He should have been on the lookout for that kind of stuff. Knowing the Tiara is in the house and grip hooks weird. That

[01:35:01] should have been on his radar a little more. I thought. Yeah. Yeah. It is so good. I agree with you. So I'll just jump on that. Yeah. Probably the same. Yeah. Luna can be hot to Molly. Oh, I wanted, what do we know? Just to be more open-minded or something, isn't that what? Yeah. Her, her, his love, his, yeah. Xenophilia said, yeah. Wow, Mr. Lovegoods said to Hermione,

[01:37:42] oh great, you're thinking like you're more open-minded.

[01:37:45] Yeah, finally.

[01:37:47] We'll have to check every rock in the world. of him at this moment because she's like so in awe of him. Well, yeah, because he didn't tell anyone anything because he would, I thought that was interesting, like the maturity level where he was tapping in a little bit to see what Voldemort was doing and then closing it off. So he was kind of keeping track of him, but not letting it interrupt the moments

[01:39:00] that he was in just to, that and all.

[01:39:04] I love that.

[01:39:05] Yep.

[01:39:06] Okay, that was fine.

[01:39:07] It was good moments in these chapters. I think my favorite is maybe maybe sad, but I love the gratification that Harry feels when he's burying Dobby, like using, like using his own sweat and dirt, I'm like, I like that. Like giving him a meaningful goodbye. I think that's great. Sad. Hot Tamale. I said Luna. Yeah. I'm going looping.

[01:40:21] Yeah.

[01:40:21] Respect.

[01:40:21] Respect.

[01:40:22] What about Teddy?

[01:40:24] Oh, baby.

[01:40:25] Yeah.

[01:40:26] Oh, baby.

[01:40:26] Oh, oh.

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