Chapter 21 - The Tale of the Three Brothers
- “ ‘There were once three brothers who were traveling along a lonely, winding road at twilight —’ ” “Midnight, our mum always told us,” said Ron, who had stretched out, arms behind his head, to listen. Hermione shot him a look of annoyance.
- We are talking about a cloak that really and truly renders the wearer completely invisible, and endures eternally, giving constant and impenetrable concealment, no matter what spells are cast at it. How many cloaks have you ever seen like that, Miss Granger?” Hermione opened her mouth to answer, then closed it again, looking more confused than ever. She, Harry, and Ron glanced at one another, and Harry knew that they were all thinking the same thing. It so happened that a cloak exactly like the one Xenophilius had just described was in the room with them at that very moment.
Q1 - Do you think Harry’s cloak could be one of the Hallows?
Q2 - If it exists, where do you think the Resurrection stone is?
- “So where do you think the Elder Wand is now?” asked Ron. “Alas, who knows?” said Xenophilius, as he gazed out of the window.
Q3 - If it exists, where is the wand?
- “It’s just a morality tale, it’s obvious which gift is best, which one you’d choose —” The three of them spoke at the same time; Hermione said, “the Cloak,” Ron said, “the wand,” and Harry said, “the stone.” They looked at each other, half surprised, half amused.
Q4 - Which is the best?
- Harry held out his left hand. Ron vanished beneath the Cloak. The printing press blocking the stairs was vibrating: Xenophilius was trying to shift it using a Hover Charm. Harry did not know what Hermione was waiting for. “Hold tight,” she whispered. “Hold tight . . . any second . . .” Xenophilius’s paper-white face appeared over the top of the sideboard. “Obliviate!” cried Hermione, pointing her wand first into his face, then at the floor beneath them. “Deprimo!” She had blasted a hole in the sitting room floor. They fell like boulders, Harry still holding onto her hand for dear life; there was a scream from below, and he glimpsed two men trying to get out of the way as vast quantities of rubble and broken furniture rained all around them from the shattered ceiling. Hermione twisted in midair and the thundering of the collapsing house rang in Harry’s ears as she dragged him once more into darkness.
Q5 - What is Hermione doing here?
Chapter 22 - The Deathly Hallows
- “Then she’ll be in Azkaban, I expect,” said Ron. “Whether she survives the place, though . . . Loads don’t. . . .” “She will,” said Harry. He could not bear to contemplate the alternative. “She’s tough, Luna, much tougher than you’d think. She’s probably teaching all the inmates about Wrackspurts and Nargles.”
Q1 - Who could survive Azkaban the best out of everyone we’ve met?
- “Yes . . . and that’s all very interesting,” said Hermione cautiously, “but Harry, if you’re thinking what I think you’re think —” “Well, why not? Why not?” said Harry, abandoning caution. “It was a stone, wasn’t it?” He looked at Ron for support. “What if it was the Resurrection Stone?” Ron’s mouth fell open. “Blimey — but would it still work if Dumbledore broke — ?”
Q2 - Do you think that the stone is the ring?
- And he saw himself, possessor of the Hallows, facing Voldemort, whose Horcruxes were no match . . . Neither can live while the other survives. . . . Was this the answer? Hallows versus Horcruxes? Was there a way, after all, to ensure that he was the one who triumphed? If he were the master of the Deathly Hallows, would he be safe?
Q3 - What do you think of Harry’s questions here?
- He turned his back on their strained, incredulous faces. He knew it was the truth. It all made sense. Voldemort was not seeking a new wand; he was seeking an old wand, a very old wand indeed. Harry walked to the entrance of the tent, forgetting about Ron and Hermione as he looked out into the night, thinking. . . .
- “Harry, this isn’t a game, this isn’t practice! This is the real thing, and Dumbledore left you very clear instructions: Find and destroy the Horcruxes! That symbol doesn’t mean anything, forget the Deathly Hallows, we can’t afford to get sidetracked —”
Q4 - What did Dumbledore want?
- “But before we hear from Royal and Romulus,” Lee went on, “let’s take a moment to report those deaths that the Wizarding Wireless Network News and Daily Prophet don’t think important enough to mention. It is with great regret that we inform our listeners of the murders of Ted Tonks and Dirk Cresswell.”
- “I’d tell him we’re all with him in spirit,” said Lupin, then hesitated slightly. “And I’d tell him to follow his instincts, which are good and nearly always right.”
Q5 - Are Harry’s instincts always right?
- “And the rumors that he keeps being sighted abroad?” asked Lee. “Well, who wouldn’t want a nice little holiday after all the hard work he’s been putting in?” asked Fred. “Point is, people, don’t get lulled into a false sense of security, thinking he’s out of the country. Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t, but the fact remains he can move faster than Severus Snape confronted with shampoo when he wants to, so don’t count on him being a long way away if you’re planning on taking any risks. I never thought I’d hear myself say it, but safety first!”
Chapter 23 - Malfoy Manor
Q1 - How unfortunate is the end of the last chapter and this one?
- “Like ’ell you are,” said the man called Scabior. “We know Stan Shunpike, ’e’s put a bit of work our way.”
Q2 - Is Stan actually bad?
- The emaciated figure stirred beneath its thin blanket and rolled over toward him, eyes opening in a skull of a face. . . . The frail man sat up, great sunken eyes fixed upon him, upon Voldemort, and then he smiled. Most of his teeth were gone. . . . “So, you have come. I thought you would . . . one day. But your journey was pointless. I never had it.” “You lie!”
Q3 - What does he mean that he never had it?
Q4 - Why doesn’t Draco identify them here?
- She stopped struggling, her dark eyes fixed upon something Harry could not see. Jubilant at her capitulation, Lucius threw her hand from him and ripped up his own sleeve — “STOP!” shrieked Bellatrix. “Do not touch it, we shall all perish if the Dark Lord comes now!”
Q5 - Why is Bella so freaked out?
- Hermione’s screams echoed off the walls upstairs, Ron was half sobbing as he pounded the walls with his fists, and Harry in utter desperation seized Hagrid’s pouch from around his neck and groped inside it: He pulled out Dumbledore’s Snitch and shook it, hoping for he did not know what — nothing happened — he waved the broken halves of the phoenix wand, but they were lifeless — the mirror fragment fell sparkling to the floor, and he saw a gleam of brightest blue — Dumbledore’s eye was gazing at him out of the mirror. “Help us!” he yelled at it in mad desperation. “We’re in the cellar of Malfoy Manor, help us!” The eye blinked and was gone.
Q6 - What was going on there?
- “Kill me, then, Voldemort, I welcome death! But my death will not bring you what you seek. . . . There is so much you do not understand. . . .”
Q7 - What does Voldemort not understand?
- Harry could barely breathe. “You’re going to kill me?” Harry choked, attempting to prise off the metal fingers. “After I saved your life? You owe me, Wormtail!” The silver fingers slackened. Harry had not expected it: He wrenched himself free, astonished, keeping his hand over Wormtail’s mouth. He saw the ratlike man’s small watery eyes widen with fear and surprise: He seemed just as shocked as Harry at what his hand had done, at the tiny, merciful impulse it had betrayed, and he continued to struggle more powerfully, as though to undo that moment of weakness. “And we’ll have that,” whispered Ron, tugging Wormtail’s wand from his other hand. Wandless, helpless, Pettigrew’s pupils dilated in terror. His eyes had slid from Harry’s face to something else. His own silver fingers were moving inexorably toward his own throat. “No —” Without pausing to think, Harry tried to drag back the hand, but there was no stopping it. The silver tool that Voldemort had given his most cowardly servant had turned upon its disarmed and useless owner; Pettigrew was reaping his reward for his hesitation, his moment of pity; he was being strangled before their eyes.
Q8 - Poetic justice here? What do you think about Harry trying to save Pettigrew?
- At the last word there was a peculiar grinding noise from above. All of them looked upward in time to see the crystal chandelier tremble; then, with a creak and an ominous jingling, it began to fall. Bellatrix was directly beneath it; dropping Hermione, she threw herself aside with a scream. The chandelier crashed to the floor in an explosion of crystal and chains, falling on top of Hermione and the goblin, who still clutched the sword of Gryffindor. Glittering shards of crystal flew in all directions: Draco doubled over, his hands covering his bloody face. As Ron ran to pull Hermione out of the wreckage, Harry took his chance: He leapt over an armchair and wrested the three wands from Draco’s grip, pointed all of them at Greyback, and yelled, “Stupefy!” The werewolf was lifted off his feet by the triple spell, flew up to the ceiling, and then smashed to the ground.
Q9 - Does triple wand power work greater?
- The tiny elf trotted into the room, his shaking finger pointing at his old mistress. “You must not hurt Harry Potter,” he squeaked. “Kill him, Cissy!” shrieked Bellatrix, but there was another loud crack, and Narcissa’s wand too flew into the air and landed on the other side of the room. “You dirty little monkey!” bawled Bellatrix. “How dare you take a witch’s wand, how dare you defy your masters?” “Dobby has no master!” squealed the elf. “Dobby is a free elf, and Dobby has come to save Harry Potter and his friends!”
- “Dobby, no, don’t die, don’t die —” The elf’s eyes found him, and his lips trembled with the effort to form words. “Harry . . . Potter . . .” And then with a little shudder the elf became quite still, and his eyes were nothing more than great glassy orbs, sprinkled with light from the stars they could not see.
Q10 - Raise a glass to Dobby
[00:00:00] Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm Jon. I'm Lizzie. And this is Harry Potter and the First Time Readers. Second Time Reader! Yikes! He'll get it eventually, folks. No, I probably won't. I'm just kidding at this point. T minus like five episodes or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then we have five including this. You had a good in the middle. I know. I was like crushing it in the middle and then I just... My mind has gone blank. Anyhow, we're in chapter 20, which is Xenophilius Lovegood. How do you like Xeno?
[00:00:39] Wow. I really, really liked him until he sold Harry essentially. I thought he was so cool. I think I said, oh, maybe they need to go to see him. I don't remember. I think you did, yeah. Yeah. So then I was excited that they were actually gonna talk to him and I felt like he was being a good character. Then I was like, wait, is he imperious? And then all of that went down and I was like, no, he's just... I guess he just wants Luna more than anything. But still, I wouldn't have liked to be in the middle of the middle.
[00:01:09] have made that decision i don't think yep because harry's like the hope of the world you know
[00:01:14] why sell him just to get your daughter back i am gonna be his uh apologist right now no yeah
[00:01:23] i know i know he's the hope of the world but that's your daughter like i mean i just have
[00:01:28] a niece and i would sell anybody for my niece yeah no i feel that like i have no doubt in my
[00:01:37] mind that my dad would like do everything to protect me so i don't know if he would like
[00:01:42] sell one of my best friends though you know he would think on that decision yeah he'd think on
[00:01:48] that and then he'd probably be like okay yeah yeah and he's also put in just a weird position too
[00:01:55] like he's already lost his wife he's about to lose his daughter and he's about to have to live with
[00:01:59] that so i would do anything to keep him safe luna's room with the paintings on the
[00:02:07] the ceiling with friends going through them oh did you find that sweet really you found that
[00:02:12] really sweet yeah i think it's like a little yeah it definitely is a little creepy like if i went to
[00:02:17] my friend's house and they did that i'll be like whoa all right yeah time to uh back away but i don't
[00:02:25] know it is kind of nice when you know like someone has no friends and that you're like yeah that you
[00:02:30] are like giving them happiness and like hope in the world you know that is why i really love jenny too
[00:02:36] because i feel like jenny is a true friend to luna yeah and uh like the the other trio right now they're
[00:02:42] like friendly with her luna thinks they're friends a little bit more than they think they're friends
[00:02:48] but i don't know i feel like jenny's her true friend and like
[00:02:52] yeah someone who doesn't have any friends have friends like that is is great and luna's like
[00:02:55] the coolest like why wouldn't anybody want to be friends with luna and i think jenny like actually
[00:03:00] just accepts her for how she is and then that's why they're like such true friends yeah but also
[00:03:06] harry ron and hermione just know deeper friendship than their friendship with luna
[00:03:10] where luna might not know any deeper friendship than what she has with all of them yeah exactly
[00:03:17] she's good um people need to do that but you you would like what would you so you were talking
[00:03:24] about that but what would you have done in xeno's position would you just have like
[00:03:30] yeah what would you have done i would have just said hey luna's trapped right now she's not
[00:03:39] um she's not she's no longer with us but then i would be like why do you want to know about the
[00:03:46] deathly hallows like where is this leading you why do you care or he seems like he knows even more
[00:03:50] beyond what he shared and then ran downstairs really quick so i would try to like feel out the
[00:03:57] situation more and then i would probably just be honest because i would want to help harry potter
[00:04:01] yeah i don't want to sell him to the dark lord and have everything end honestly that's a great it's a
[00:04:08] great point why he's not just more honest because it's like not it's not like his room is bugged
[00:04:14] it's bugged when he calls voldemort and they come in and they like you know try to get information from
[00:04:21] him but it's not like they're listening into this conversation right now so why doesn't he just be
[00:04:25] honest maybe it's just his panic response why not just be like hey harry they took luna i can't tell
[00:04:33] you a lot of other information i have to keep printing this like i'm gonna slam you but like
[00:04:39] i don't really believe it but i need you your priority has to be to get my daughter back i was
[00:04:43] like if if my daughter dies then like you know i'm i have nothing left so i feel like he should have
[00:04:50] just been more honest with them that would have solved a lot of problems i think if they talked
[00:04:53] about it too hermione could have come up with her plan yeah agreed because she came up with that in
[00:04:58] two seconds in complete chaos yeah so if they had just like laid everything out and was like okay
[00:05:05] what are we gonna do she might be able to think of that and be like let's let him have a glimpse of
[00:05:09] harry yeah you'll be fine we'll escape yeah i agree because hermione is a great plan
[00:05:17] come her upper with oh plan she's a planner that's the word i was looking for
[00:05:26] um yeah not much always happens in this chapter but they just kind of meet xeno and they kind of
[00:05:30] go over some basic info you have anything else in this chapter um the taboo of the name that's how
[00:05:38] it is right that's so smart like he's really playing into their hand i guess yep because you were
[00:05:45] i think you were pretty close on that i think you said something because you were talking about the
[00:05:50] trace i forgot exactly what you said in that episode but i think you came somewhat close to it
[00:05:55] i was thinking that she had the muggle trace on her and that that was like she had her wand and it
[00:06:02] knew she was a muggle because she's on like the oh that's right the list or something but i didn't
[00:06:07] associate it with the name yeah voldemort i know they are brilliant to bug that name because
[00:06:12] really harry's like one of the only people that ever uses it how do you even do magic on a word
[00:06:17] that's coming out of someone's mouth and then you just apparate to it like that is a great question
[00:06:22] it's wild magic magic oh and i feel like i was understanding the importance of wands a little bit
[00:06:31] more because last time i was like ah it'll be fine yeah right not fine it ain't gonna be fine you can
[00:06:38] just pick up another wand but this chapter educated me a little bit about how important it is to have a
[00:06:45] good wand and then the whole deathly hallows thing with the elder wand finally that came up
[00:06:51] so i know a little bit more about what that is yeah the tale of the three brothers let's go into
[00:06:56] that chapter but wands are important i know tell the three brothers he just gives the tale of three
[00:07:01] brothers the little bard um what did you think about this whole tale and i'm like give me walk
[00:07:09] me through your understanding of the elder wand right now well first of all i would totally be on
[00:07:15] board with what he's saying i would fully believe him okay and i'd just be like okay this makes sense
[00:07:21] things are lining up but hermione wasn't like that at all but what was your question
[00:07:28] what do i think about the elder wand yeah i think that that's the vision that harry was having like
[00:07:35] gregorovitch taking that yeah um so do you think that it has more power than other ones is this thing
[00:07:42] is this thing real or is this thing i mean it seems to be real they're hunting this but is there real
[00:07:49] power behind it or is this one just like any other that they just have like you know a legend it could be
[00:07:54] like placebo but i think not okay i think it is powerful because just like the history of the wand
[00:08:02] i think that's it shows more than just like a like a lucky serum type of like you just believe in
[00:08:11] yourself and you can do extraordinary things so i don't know a part of me kind of wants to still think
[00:08:16] it's placebo but if this whole story about death giving it to him is real then yeah it's a very
[00:08:24] powerful wand and assuming like dumbledore had it or somebody had it i don't know if powerful wizards
[00:08:33] have it and want it it's clearly like something that they feel they need that's beyond their own
[00:08:39] wand or their own power so that also is kind of pointing to it being who has it where is this wand
[00:08:47] i guess gregorovitch that guy who jumped out the window but he's dead is he though so gregorovitch
[00:08:56] wasn't the guy who jumped out the window it was grindelwald oh that's what i meant grindelwald sorry
[00:09:01] grindelwald jumped out of gregorovitch's office or window because gregorovitch is the the wand maker
[00:09:07] yeah wand maker grindelwald is the dark wizard so grindelwald has it
[00:09:12] okay but then is grindelwald this like skeleton man that's like curled up on the floor later
[00:09:19] in the vision yeah it is
[00:09:23] the skeleton man wait what which which which chapter the malfoy manor chapter um yes i think it's in there
[00:09:32] because uh voldemort's like he's in voldemort's mind but he actually does that's okay yeah that is
[00:09:40] that is grindelwald so he probably doesn't have the wand if he's like with him and he's curled up
[00:09:46] he probably doesn't yeah so so where is where is the wand great question no idea um where would gregorovitch
[00:09:55] put it i don't know any places that pertain to him in particular off the top of my head
[00:10:03] okay we'll come back to this you'll find out literally very quick literally very quick
[00:10:11] okay there's there's uh some good lines in this chapter as always and uh there's one that it starts
[00:10:17] off it says there once were three brothers who were traveling along a long a lonely winding road
[00:10:24] at twilight midnight our mom always told us said ron which stretched out arms behind his head to
[00:10:29] listen her mind he shot him a look of annoyance and then after this story xeno says we are talking
[00:10:36] about a cloak that truly and really renders the wearer completely invisible and endures eternally
[00:10:42] giving constant and impenetrable concealment no matter what spells are cast at it how many
[00:10:47] cloaks have you ever seen like that miss granger hermione opened her mouth to answer then closed
[00:10:51] it again looking more confused than ever she harry and ron glance at each other and harry knew that
[00:10:57] they were all thinking the same thing it so happened that the cloak that a cloak exactly like the one
[00:11:02] xenophilius had described was in the room with them at this very moment is harry's cloak the hallow
[00:11:07] yeah really so because that's the only real one we've encountered yeah we haven't we have we
[00:11:15] haven't really seen we've seen some other ones like moody said he had an invisibility cloak we never
[00:11:19] seen it but yeah this is the only real one we've encountered it talks about later how dumbledore
[00:11:26] took it from his dad yeah i don't completely understand that but that also makes me think
[00:11:32] that's the real one if dumbledore took it why do you not understand that i don't know i just need to
[00:11:37] like reread it or something is it why why would dumbledore take that like the what was happening
[00:11:43] like uh james had it yeah so you initially thought that uh dumbledore took it so james didn't sneak
[00:11:49] away a little bit so like almost like just being parental and just making sure he's had temptation
[00:11:54] removed um but yeah james and lily were hiding they were hiding out and dumbledore came and
[00:12:02] just took the cloak or like asked james to borrow the cloak for a little bit so dumbledore could have
[00:12:07] been using it because he thought it was valuable and could have been using it for his own thing
[00:12:10] but dumbledore did say early on he doesn't need a cloak to make himself invisible
[00:12:15] yeah so why would he take the cloak i don't know i thought maybe that voldemort was after the cloak
[00:12:22] and not harry and like he wanted to collect the hallows oh okay and then dumbledore took it out of the
[00:12:28] house like just in case he got it but do you think that that voldemort is after all the hallows yeah
[00:12:40] where's the resurrection stone it's either the the ring okay or i thought it was the sorcerer's
[00:12:51] stone at first and then they brought up the ring and i was like oh because is a horcrux
[00:12:56] a deathly hallow at the same time because then it's like did you destroy the deathly hallow like
[00:13:03] is that bad now you can't have like their full power of like the the trio things combined okay
[00:13:09] it's a great question because the sort the yeah the sorcerer's stone was like
[00:13:15] kind of in my mind the first thing that popped up i was like oh boom we got the elder wand which is
[00:13:20] like arbitrary to me still the cloak and then the sorcerer's stone is like the stone that brings you
[00:13:26] back to life yeah so i don't know i guess maybe there they could be wrong about it being the ring
[00:13:32] but i also don't want to be like that dumb yeah but it is like confusing how it's uh both at once
[00:13:40] but maybe he didn't even know about the hallows at that point yeah for sure but i feel like he
[00:13:45] definitely does want them like why would you not if you can beat that that way or maybe like harry
[00:13:54] needs them and then harry can defeat voldemort i mean according to your estimation he already has
[00:14:00] one who's gonna win in this in the it seems like there's some kind of race to get to the wand
[00:14:07] yeah not fully but like who is gonna get the wand first i remember you said harry a while ago
[00:14:12] do you still think harry i think harry i think that's what's gonna happen next is like
[00:14:15] the quest to get the wand because harry's essentially out of a wand he doesn't really
[00:14:19] have a wand anymore he has like a crap wand that he's using but he doesn't really have a wand
[00:14:25] and he needs something in order to defeat voldemort so this could be the natural step yeah
[00:14:31] be great which that which of the hell is the best the wand really yeah whoa why
[00:14:40] because it's like duh really uh yeah why are you gonna take the cloak yeah
[00:14:47] i mean i would love the wand like the resurrection stone is the one i wouldn't want
[00:14:53] like people in my life of who i've loved have passed away but that's not what i want um
[00:15:00] but it is it's tragic that harry thinks that this is the most valuable one because like i think
[00:15:05] you know for people who have lost a lot of people in their life like i'm curious what luna's answer
[00:15:09] for this would have been like if she would have would have wanted to see her mom again or something
[00:15:13] like that or like people who have really experienced a lot of loss and death when they're young if they
[00:15:18] would all choose the wand or not or i thought they would all choose the stone or not but i would
[00:15:23] probably choose the cloak but the wand would be a very very close second i love the idea of the wand
[00:15:31] i was gonna guess that you pick the cloak or the stone but i don't think you like romanticize death
[00:15:37] enough to choose the stone yeah so i was like yeah he's taking the cloak yeah and then you're not
[00:15:41] like combative at all yeah i'm a very non-confrontational person yeah so that would help me leave
[00:15:47] just literally hide leave parties really early you know and i thought you would like the generational
[00:15:54] like aspect of you can give the cloak to other people and like yeah it's not just for you
[00:15:59] yeah i agree give it back like the wand you give to other generations and it becomes even more
[00:16:04] dangerous the cloak there's a lot of a lot of less danger behind it yeah because the wand is like
[00:16:09] something that you have to protect like if it gets into the wrong hands obviously it keeps getting
[00:16:14] stolen from people so yeah interesting answer that you would take that i don't know i just feel like
[00:16:21] i would i don't know how much i would do with it but yeah i would have it just in case yeah
[00:16:26] exactly for a little rainy day um anything else in this chapter what did you think of hermione's
[00:16:32] getaway plan uh genius yeah very smart yeah that's literally in my notes hermione's genius yeah she is
[00:16:43] he's brilliant um and i feel like having ron back in the trio like he's kind of just
[00:16:54] like i don't want to say like dumb but he's just like going along with the plan and trusting
[00:16:59] and i feel like that's a very integral uh part of this little section of the story is like you need
[00:17:05] somebody to have like the dumb trust to keep going forward because if it was just harry and hermione
[00:17:11] it'd be like much more divided and i don't know what they would do but then harry or ron is just like
[00:17:16] yeah let's do this or like this is my like i know this story and i feel like his uh i can't think
[00:17:22] of like a good word but he's just like i guess innocent like trust and just like let's go kind of
[00:17:27] thing is actually helping a lot he's got the good aura yeah but like he doesn't know what's going on
[00:17:33] that was my other thought i was like if me and ronald were down to save the world we would not
[00:17:39] be doing a good job because i'm equally as confused as this man but i really like ron yeah he's one of
[00:17:48] my favorite characters in the whole series he's like the glue guy for this whole they're all
[00:17:52] of them like you know hermione and harry are are smart the movies portray ron is a lot more
[00:17:57] of an idiot than he is in the books the books he's like you know he's not an idiot he's smart but he's
[00:18:02] just like he cares more about keeping them all together um and he's like still trying to appease
[00:18:10] hermione yeah i agree yeah um was the invisibility cloak a factor in all the other books whenever he
[00:18:20] faced voldemort like has the invisibility cloak saved him every time it has saved him none no times oh
[00:18:27] really yeah because the first book he didn't have the invisibility cloak second book he didn't have
[00:18:33] the invisibility cloak and he he's used the invisibility cloak to get him past certain things
[00:18:38] yeah um but he's never like faced voldemort with the invisibility cloak on that's good and i wonder
[00:18:46] too what the uh like legitimacy of that is i wonder if a dude wore the invisibility cloak for his whole
[00:18:51] life if you would evade death or not yeah like that makes no sense yeah because death needs like death
[00:18:58] doesn't need to find your physical body it like needs your soul you know right but maybe the invisibility
[00:19:03] cloak is so good at tidying your soul as well i don't know that's why you can't get hit with curses
[00:19:08] because it's just like but i was wondering maybe dumbledore didn't tell harry about the deathly
[00:19:15] house because it would be like enticing to be all-powerful and like be able to defeat everything
[00:19:21] so that's why i was wondering like if the invisibility cloak has already saved him so many
[00:19:26] times like how much greater would his desire and his trust in the deathly hollows be for like
[00:19:32] completing his task of killing voldemort that's an interesting point okay so dumbledore isn't
[00:19:41] telling us because he knows does harry struggle with power yeah i feel like it was one of those lock
[00:19:48] heart things where you put it in front of you and be like don't be this way you know
[00:19:52] like he didn't want harry to see the deathly hollows and either depend on them when he's trying
[00:19:58] to kill voldemort or just like take them for himself i don't know that harry would do that
[00:20:03] and just become like all-powerful brutal person but it was a thought yeah uh so this is this is
[00:20:12] some of the discussion in the next chapter which is like these three chapters just go hand in hand
[00:20:16] with each other the next one is the deathly hollows and they kind of just discuss and talk about some of the
[00:20:19] deathly hollows in that one um but if dumbledore is wants harry to figure this out is he just making
[00:20:28] it difficult for him so that he catches the weight of it like walk me through that again because if
[00:20:36] he's trying to make him defeat voldemort why wouldn't he just be like okay you have to go look
[00:20:41] for the deathly hollows because he told him about horcruxes so our hollows the way to defeat horcruxes
[00:20:48] if harry is going to search for one what should he search for oh i didn't even like think of it that
[00:20:54] way i guess the wand could do magic that like you can't undo maybe okay and then you could just zap
[00:20:59] the rest of the horcruxes yeah um yeah i just think it was like a don't think you need to depend on this
[00:21:09] type of thing okay but i don't know how to answer your question that well
[00:21:16] i think wait because you can't destroy a horcrux with the cloak or the stone and then the magic
[00:21:25] and the wand has to be like a certain type of spell i guess that you can't undo yeah so hollows do not
[00:21:35] destroy horcruxes yeah it doesn't seem like just like the normal magic that you can use that wand for
[00:21:40] and is the prophecy like the prophecy is 100 about voldemort and harry it's not like the
[00:21:46] hollows and the horcruxes or something where like if the one exists the other can't okay that's a
[00:21:50] phenomenal question so think this is what it says and this is harry's conundrum and he saw him
[00:21:56] possessed her of the hollows facing voldemort whose horcruxes were no match
[00:22:00] neither can live while the other survives yeah was this the answer hallows versus horcruxes was
[00:22:06] there a way after all to ensure that he was the one who triumphed if he were the master of the
[00:22:11] deathly hollows would he be safe so is this potentially talking about like the hollows
[00:22:17] rather than harry and voldemort yeah because i was never like a hundred percent sure that the prophecy
[00:22:22] was about harry and voldemort but i had no other like options to pick from other than just like good
[00:22:28] and bad in general or like yeah i don't know like who was the other kid neville and he didn't like
[00:22:34] that's obviously not gonna happen either but this to me is like a more concrete idea that i could be
[00:22:38] like oh maybe it is something like that because harry's thought there makes sense that like if he
[00:22:44] has the hollows and then he tries to kill voldemort it's like harry's not gonna die and i feel like
[00:22:50] dumbledore also is giving that vibe of like there's life after you kill voldemort like you're not gonna be
[00:22:55] the one to die so maybe that's also why you don't want the to give him the hollows because then
[00:23:02] he could have it for the rest of his life or something okay do you think that this story has
[00:23:06] legitimacy as to you would actually evade death if you had these these objects or is it false
[00:23:13] confidence is that my hair no i think it's i want to say kaylee's hair it's just a blonde hair on this
[00:23:19] well i picked your pair off of like yeah i'm a big shedder um what was the question um i don't
[00:23:31] remember now um oh is this is this tale actually true if you have the hallows will you evade death
[00:23:38] will you live forever i don't understand how that would work but like i believe yes but okay so
[00:23:47] okay so i don't you understand how that would work like that it seems like a fairy tale to me like no
[00:23:52] way that's real but in this story i'm like yo for sure that's that's what we need to do
[00:23:58] is it more so it'll help you evade death not like maybe like not the ultimate death but it
[00:24:02] will help you evade death and no one will be able to defeat you is it more so talking about that
[00:24:09] like being the champion or something oh isn't that what they say like the victor over that the conqueror
[00:24:16] yeah that would make sense good good answer like instead of like eternal life
[00:24:26] yeah instead of like you know the the philosopher stone made the elixir of life and that made the
[00:24:31] person essentially live forever which is a question i mean this is lady like leading into another
[00:24:38] question for what is voldemort really looking for is he looking for the
[00:24:45] all three of the hallows or does he have use just for one of them because
[00:24:49] maybe he views this as not a way to fully live forever maybe he views this as i need this wand and
[00:24:55] the wand is going to defeat harry potter my horcruxes are going to keep me alive forever yeah
[00:24:59] i like that idea i gotcha yeah because he already has living forever checked off the to-do list it's
[00:25:06] just like now i need the most powerful weapon yeah get harry potter out of the way that's it
[00:25:11] because he would never want to use the resurrection stone i don't think he cares about the resurrection
[00:25:15] stone what's like the nuance of the difference between the resurrection stone and the sorcerer's
[00:25:19] stone uh the sorcerer's stone keeps you alive even if you are on the edge of death the world the
[00:25:24] sorcerer's stone is a stone that turns um all objects that it touches into gold and it creates the
[00:25:32] elixir of life and that keeps you alive forever so long as you're drinking it one of my friends
[00:25:37] oh yeah one of my other friends uh who's trying to read this for the first time abby who's
[00:25:41] originally season two was saying that uh um it shouldn't be called the elixir of life should
[00:25:47] be called the elixir of a very long time because you have to keep drinking it in order to survive
[00:25:52] and if you ever run out then you are dead um which is a fair qualm to make the resurrection stone
[00:26:00] is an object that just raises someone from the dead so you have to die first to use the resurrection
[00:26:07] yeah how do we know like voldemort didn't already do that we don't so it's a fair point it's a great
[00:26:15] question it has voldemort how do we know dumbledore didn't do that and he is a great question on a
[00:26:21] second life that's another great question that's why he knew where it was yeah he had the ring
[00:26:26] is the ring in the snitch i don't know the ring in the snitch there's no or does anyone think
[00:26:33] anything's in the snitch or they just don't even know i'm they just don't even know i still picture
[00:26:37] the snitch opening at the close yeah i don't know whatever the close is we're definitely we're
[00:26:44] definitely there's yeah we don't know anything about the snitch we just know that it says i open
[00:26:48] to the close so we don't know where the ring is they were saying though like isn't the ring in
[00:26:53] the snitch right that's what they potentially think harry is like looking at the snitch being
[00:26:58] like how do i get it out of here yeah but they have no idea harry's not like shaking it around like
[00:27:04] waiting for this thing to come yeah do you think they're right or wrong you think the snitch is
[00:27:10] holding the ring i don't think the ring is in the snitch
[00:27:19] i don't know i just it feels weird to me um i just think it's probably just a horcrux and it got
[00:27:29] destroyed and then it's just gone but like there's no story of when that would have happened okay in
[00:27:38] terms of like dumbledore dying but it could be anywhere in his office still i guess um and did
[00:27:48] dumbledore did he want i mean i mean we kind of already talked about this so let me just skip that
[00:27:57] question um harry talks about this as well he says but before we hear oh no there's uh oh no no sorry
[00:28:11] lupin says this when when they're on the radio they so they hear this a little radio program which is
[00:28:15] kind of nice they like you know get some familiar voices and faces and then lupin says this i tell him
[00:28:22] we were all with him in spirit so lupin then he has a did it slightly and i tell him to follow his
[00:28:26] instincts which are always good and eerily always right are harry's instincts always right do you
[00:28:32] would you like what would you say about the harry um yeah i think so okay he's definitely had some
[00:28:39] wrong ones but more on just this quest i think like with bathilda yeah and yeah he's like this is
[00:28:50] like my gut's telling me to do this like that's wrong but i'm assuming there's like big horcrux power
[00:28:56] coming into play with that but for the most part he depends on his friends too so it's like kind of
[00:29:02] like a yeah a group think that's like maybe always right you gotta run that through run that past your
[00:29:09] friends first but yeah i think that's good advice for him he probably needs to hear it and i feel
[00:29:14] like lupin was talking about himself too maybe like it's good that you like left me like he's
[00:29:19] kind of like solidifying that in his mind or like a subtle thank you for not taking me with you yeah
[00:29:25] for sure i think that was like a little subtle line so harry's listening he kind of knows
[00:29:29] yeah he did the right thing um all right let's go to chapter 23 you have anything related to the
[00:29:36] pepper peveril yeah isn't that pretty crazy that is crazy so who was that guy again the pev
[00:29:42] the peverils they're the original owners of the halos so that's gaunt or somebody no oh the gaunts
[00:29:50] were related to uh the slytherin salazar slytherin the gaunts are related to slytherin okay so where
[00:29:59] did peveril come in then they're just like a random name that's thrown in right now so they were
[00:30:04] potentially like people think that they were the first three owners of the halos
[00:30:07] they were the brothers in the tale were the peveril brothers so how did he get to the point of
[00:30:16] realizing that they're related i don't actually know because that was something where he brought
[00:30:31] in dumbledore was like dumbledore had the cloak my mom was there and then he was like i'm related to
[00:30:38] them i just that didn't sink into me that didn't make sense i think it was just through the cloak
[00:30:50] it was passed down so according to legend ignotis the father of the peverils passed the cloak on to
[00:30:57] his son who had a daughter and they just passed it on so harry's dad passed it on to harry so i think
[00:31:02] he's maybe just assuming that he's he's the heir of the peverils like the has a broken line
[00:31:08] gotcha because i don't know how much that i mean like to be honest it's a little crazy to think that
[00:31:13] that wouldn't break a line because like if i if i know harry potter like every i feel like everyone
[00:31:19] at hogwarts knows harry potter has an invisibility cloak i'm probably gonna like go sneak through his
[00:31:23] stuff and go steal that visibility cloak that thing is sick i want that yeah and then it changes lines
[00:31:29] you know it's a little weird to assume that it does hasn't changed and the fact that they know where
[00:31:34] it's been for i don't know 20 years that's like proving that it's the really strong one yeah agreed
[00:31:41] i can't be defeated or something yeah um malfoy manor chapter 23 yes they get caught they go to
[00:31:56] malfoy manor oh ho breaks loose and at the end our very own dobby dies i knew that was coming i don't
[00:32:10] know when but i was not surprised yeah sad one so he dies like at bill and fleurs i didn't remember that
[00:32:19] yeah at shell cottage that's so nice shell cottage i know that's like me i've told this you've heard
[00:32:27] been talking about this one before on the season one the mecca of all harry potter places is shell
[00:32:31] cottage oh really filming location i feel like did you send me a tiktok of that like somebody went there
[00:32:36] that's crazy and they dropped stones there i probably sent you that during your first that's like very
[00:32:41] nerdy no that was like recently really yeah a couple months ago because you already knew dobby
[00:32:46] diet right yeah so yeah you go there and there's like stacks and stacks of stones of people
[00:32:53] leaving memorials for dobby that's wild it is it is is there like somebody's house there
[00:32:59] no uh i mean that the shell cottage house might be there but it's just essentially dunes that they
[00:33:03] have i don't know if they like built a house or cgi or something like that um it's a very nice
[00:33:10] location though it sounds like it yeah so yeah there was one thing and before in a
[00:33:21] chapter 22 that there he's like saying that in his little vision harry's vision into
[00:33:27] voldemort's mind he's seeing a skull okay so i was like maybe that's a dark uh dark mark
[00:33:33] is that what it's called the thing in the sky yeah no that's not that's a dark mark the skull and the
[00:33:40] snake is a dark is a dark mark what's the thing on their arm called the well no that's the dark mark
[00:33:45] but the they're both the dark yeah they're both so you like cast the dark mark into the sky yeah
[00:33:50] to scare people so the thing on their arm is the dark mark it's like a skull yeah that would be a
[00:33:56] tattoo that would be something to laugh at tattoo um but i was like maybe the skull is that in the
[00:34:03] sky and then it comes up later that like the whole muggle family died and like ted and the other guy
[00:34:09] is everybody's caught so i was like either it's that like those people dying and then harry said oh
[00:34:15] there's skulls everywhere in the slytherin common room so like maybe it's like something to the
[00:34:19] slytherin but that was my only little thing it's a little foreshadowing moment that i thought maybe
[00:34:24] was the dark mark i like it yeah the dark mark would be a cool tattoo though i agree that's like
[00:34:31] very interesting though what you're standing for when you do that and it wouldn't be a tattoo you'd
[00:34:39] have to brand it on yourself because it's a brand for them i would branding is so cool honestly
[00:34:44] really yeah 100 i don't know if i would ever get a brand i don't think i could like withstand that but
[00:34:51] i've watched so many videos of people doing that you have a cool scars you're the thing for pain i do
[00:35:03] i don't but i guess i do yeah i don't know there's no way to know everything's relative
[00:35:12] um there's a one more thing is he's like looking out in the
[00:35:19] like he's usually just thinking and ruminating about the deathly hallows but then there was like
[00:35:22] this one thing that it's like the smell of the hyacinths or like whatever thing it was and i was
[00:35:27] like every time he mentioned like a flower before it's like he was thinking about jinny yeah and i
[00:35:31] was like i wonder if he's just like having a moment thinking about jinny instead of the deathly hallows
[00:35:35] 100 yeah yeah i like that he came out of that too that like these are like little smells give
[00:35:40] memories of these people that he loves homesick i know for real this is his girlfriend yeah
[00:35:47] um now into the mouth sorry i had to yeah that's great you this podcast is all about your journey
[00:35:54] so um he's having this this flat not flashback he's having this vision and in this vision the
[00:36:05] person says this the emaciated figure stirred beneath its thin blanket and rolled over toward him
[00:36:11] eyes opening a skull of face of the frail man sat up great sunken eyes fixed upon him upon voldemort
[00:36:17] oh that's the skull and then he smiled most of his teeth were gone so you have come i thought you
[00:36:24] would one day but your journey was pointless i never had it you lie what does he mean that he
[00:36:33] never had it so if this is grindelwald what does he mean that he never had it he's probably lying
[00:36:42] okay so he's potentially lying okay why would he lie because he's reformed himself in his old age
[00:36:51] oh prison has actually worked then is he in prison like where even is this he seems like he's in
[00:36:58] prison ask a man no he's actually in a different prison nermengard which is the prison that nermengard
[00:37:04] that sounds real it is what do you mean it's real nermengard uh well there's a town in switzerland
[00:37:11] called grindelwald oh and that town i don't know if that has a place near near it called nermengard
[00:37:18] but that so the i'll give you a little sneak peek into grindelwald because she wrote like some story
[00:37:25] after it this guy created a prison and he was going to put his enemies in this prison
[00:37:32] when he like you know rose to power and he didn't rise to power and then he himself went to this own
[00:37:36] prison so like he created this prison and he's inhabiting the prison because he's terrible now
[00:37:42] but maybe his maybe the rehabilitation has worked and he's you know finally lying about not having
[00:37:49] the elder on i just don't know like what he would gain from giving it to voldemort you know
[00:37:53] yeah for sure like why would he just be like oh yeah here's the most powerful wand in the world
[00:37:59] like i don't see that happening but maybe he really didn't ever have it and like that whole
[00:38:03] dream thing was wrong okay and it wasn't him but i think it is him because i think you said it was him
[00:38:09] okay unless you really are like lying to me though that's probably why i miss so much is because like i just
[00:38:16] don't even even when you tell me something that's like canon i'm like oh yeah like there is something
[00:38:23] that you've missed right here that would would piece everything together for where the wand is but i
[00:38:27] think you just missed it really and it's not crazy like obvious to everyone else no it's not it's it's
[00:38:33] like a niche not a crazy niche thing but if you were reading these books with crazy diligence and you
[00:38:40] heard the name grindelwald before you're like i know that name and then you figure out where it's from
[00:38:48] and you'd realize oh that's where the elder wand is is it like in book one or something on like the frog
[00:38:55] cards is it can i go run and grab the first book because i know like they drop they name drop a lot
[00:39:06] of people in the beginning of the series like way in advance okay go quick grab the first book
[00:39:12] i'll let you have this because this is gonna be a fun journey uh yeah am i looking at the the frog card
[00:39:23] yeah okay yeah look at the frog card see i knew that i did know that that was that was impressive
[00:39:31] i was glad that you pulled that out of nowhere okay where would the frog card be
[00:39:39] albus dumbledore defeat of the dark wizard grindelwald 1945 discovery of 12 uses of dragon's blood
[00:39:50] alchemy all right so put that together that was it that's what i'm going off i thought there was a
[00:39:58] grindelwald one okay let me really read this albus dumbledore currently headmaster of hogwarts
[00:40:03] considered by many the greatest wizards of modern time the greatest wizard of modern times
[00:40:09] dumbledore is particularly famous for his defeat of the dark wizard grindelwald in 1945
[00:40:14] so dumbledore has the wand how did how does the wand pass down through like defeating them so albus
[00:40:23] had the wand and that's how you defeated grindelwald or grindelwald is there like two wands that are
[00:40:28] very powerful okay is or is read a story correct did grindelwald just put out a white flag and then
[00:40:37] hand over the wand to dumbledore does dumbledore have the wand yeah i wait what did rita say again
[00:40:51] she thinks that the duel was that grindelwald just put out a white cloak this duel was legendary everyone
[00:40:56] knows about this duel it's the greatest duel that's ever existed and it's ever happened and she thinks
[00:41:00] it wasn't she thinks there weren't a lot of witnesses and grindelwald just put out his white flag out of
[00:41:04] his wand and dumbledore won the wand why would grindelwald do that though was he like remorseful
[00:41:12] we don't know give me more i can't really give you more because i don't even know
[00:41:20] did you know what's right i know more about some stuff on this that i can't really like share
[00:41:27] but uh yeah we we don't know anything about the duel really there was okay so i'm gonna give you a
[00:41:35] slight spoiler but this is a spoiler for the not for anything i know this is a spoiler for fantastic
[00:41:42] beasts and where to find them okay which is the new movie series that came out they were going to come
[00:41:46] out with five movies in this series the whole series kind of flopped a little bit so they only came out
[00:41:50] with three this series is going over grindelwald's rise to power um okay it's i think they're pretty
[00:41:59] decent movies i think they're kind of like fun and enjoyable the last movie dumbledore and
[00:42:03] grindelwald have a duel and it didn't seem all that great it wasn't all that impressive
[00:42:11] dumbledore didn't seem to have won the wand won the wand and they ended the movies with three so i think
[00:42:19] for them they like decided that this was going to be the duel of legend which it really wasn't
[00:42:25] because he still had the wand at the end so you're like they were planning to make two more movies
[00:42:30] after grindelwald that's the one okay so they were planning to make two more movies after so most
[00:42:34] people think that they in one of those movies they were going to have this huge crazy wand battle
[00:42:38] between them and they just like abbreviated that and threw it in one of the uh the the fantastic
[00:42:44] beast movies so you think grindelwald just like gave it up i don't know i i like honestly i just don't
[00:42:52] know i think that i i think that it was more like i yeah i don't know i don't even have a head
[00:43:02] cannon on that i'll have to think about that and get back to you because you like rita right
[00:43:10] yeah i think she's cool i think she's a good journalist
[00:43:14] uh not a great great you know she lies about a lot of stuff but i'm confused so dumbledore has it
[00:43:26] so yeah is but dumbledore okay so that's grindelwald on the floor right that's not like dumbledore yeah
[00:43:33] it's green involved on the floor yeah um he never had it though yeah so he's lying so you're thinking
[00:43:40] he's lying and then dumbledore won it from him so it's with dumbledore did his wand get buried with him
[00:43:54] yes do not tell me they have to go dig up dumbledore's grave to find the wand
[00:44:00] that would be awful diggers do they have to do that i don't know they better not that's like wrong
[00:44:07] yeah maybe they can just like ackee a wand from just popped out of the stone yeah it'd be nice
[00:44:16] or they buried like a fake with him okay maybe that was in his will don't bury the wand
[00:44:24] or they did something like under the radar and like quick switch the wands before
[00:44:29] okay okay okay we'll talk about this more uh the uh chapter 24 mcgonagall like still isn't in this
[00:44:36] book at all i know nothing which is a bummer we love her i know um i know we miss mcgonagall
[00:44:46] uh okay back on this chapter malifoy manor draco doesn't identify them why because he understands
[00:44:58] that he's on the wrong side yes i love that okay he wants harry to defeat voldemort okay
[00:45:05] i think what dumbledore said really got to him and his heart like wasn't fully in it for the dark
[00:45:12] lord but now i feel like he's just kind of getting abused and used so i think he's more of it yeah
[00:45:20] he wants it to end that's great a little draco redemption story going on love that yeah but i
[00:45:29] mean it was so obvious like who the other people were that there's no way yeah and why didn't they
[00:45:34] just like undo the jinx that hermione did like that seems pretty basic because hermione jinxed
[00:45:40] harry's honestly yeah it's like kind of dumb that they didn't they didn't just be like hey let's you
[00:45:44] know fix this real quick it's a little short-sighted although when they're when they're like in this
[00:45:52] little tussle and battle it says she stopped struggling her dark eyes fixed upon something here
[00:45:57] he could not see jubilant at her capitulation lucius threw her hand from him and ripped up his own
[00:46:04] sleeve stop shrieked bellatrix do not touch it we shall all perish if the dark lord comes now
[00:46:10] why was bellatrix so freaked out what do you mean so this is this is the
[00:46:19] like to paint the picture they kind of have recognized this is harry potter they're about to
[00:46:24] call the dark lord lucius is about to touch his little forearm and call the dark lord and then
[00:46:31] this is the line that you got again she stopped struggling her dark eyes fixed upon something
[00:46:35] harry could not see what can't she see and why is she calling off the call for the dark lord
[00:46:45] i don't know you can't see it what is she looking at so okay so i mean she's looking at the sword which
[00:46:56] is what we kind of get later because she's freaking out over how these guys got this sword oh because
[00:47:00] then it's like she didn't do her job well like she thinks it is in her okay vault at gringotts okay so
[00:47:08] does she think that she's gonna die if voldemort comes and realizes that she didn't do her job well
[00:47:12] and it's not in her vault at gringotts but is this is this the real sword this is the real sword
[00:47:19] okay so this one's a real one yeah so how else would it destroy the horcrux
[00:47:27] unless are you saying like dobby quick like switch them again or something yeah is it possible
[00:47:31] is it possible to even get in a vault at gringotts if you're a goblin okay and there's goblins with
[00:47:39] us in the room here i don't know maybe like since the ministry's fallen gringotts security has
[00:47:48] budget cuts all right i didn't think that it was the fake one just because it was like with them
[00:47:55] yeah like when would that swap have taken place yeah for sure you don't know like when it would
[00:48:00] have happened but she's freaked out because she thinks that they were in her vault and she thinks
[00:48:05] that she didn't do a good job so she would die yeah okay another part that we get says hermione's
[00:48:13] screams echoed off the wall upstairs ron was half sobbing as he pounded uh the walls with his fists and
[00:48:19] harry and utter desperation seized hagrid's pouch from around his neck and groped inside it he pulled out
[00:48:24] dumbledore's snitch and shook it hoping for he did not know what nothing happened he weighed the broken
[00:48:30] halves of the phoenix wand but they were lifeless the mirror fragment fell sparkling to the floor and
[00:48:34] he saw a gleam of brightest blue dumbledore's eye was gazing at him out of the mirror help us he
[00:48:41] yelled out in mad desperation we're in the cellar of malfoy manor help us the eye blinked and was gone
[00:48:48] crazy what is that dumbledore is he alive or is this that it went out to uh the dead i don't know
[00:48:58] i feel like it could be either of those options like if if he's alive i'm gonna be mad that he's not
[00:49:06] with them yeah agreed but i don't understand the magic of like making a mirror into death
[00:49:14] yeah so i think he's not i think he's dead i think he's dead still okay but the mirror is like he can
[00:49:25] showing okay like he still has magic like he's off the earth but he's in some like little
[00:49:33] other place that he can just like do magic still and help is it possible that this isn't dumbledore
[00:49:38] this is just harry's mistaking this is dumbledore i mean he's pretty sure it's dumbledore just because
[00:49:44] it's a blue eye but like is there not other blue eyed people in the world i agree there's probably
[00:49:49] plenty of people with blue eyes in the world and many of them living yeah agreed so who else could
[00:49:56] this potentially be i mean we don't know anybody i don't remember any eye colors lockhart
[00:50:01] lockhart when he sends dobby lockhart's really been good this whole time imagine dobby has yellow eyes
[00:50:10] i don't know who else has blue eyes mad eye yeah it's just mad eyes eyeball he sees all i feel like
[00:50:18] he would not mistake mad eyes crazy eyeball with no it's definitely like i think it is dumbledore
[00:50:23] okay but it's funny how he just desperately asked for help and he like knew that something was gonna
[00:50:29] happen yeah and also he tried his niche which is kind of sad because he's seen that ron and hermione's
[00:50:35] uh bequeathals both have purpose and they're helpful and then he's like desperately trying
[00:50:41] to get his to help and he has like nothing yeah so i feel like he probably feels a little betrayed too
[00:50:45] in that moment yeah for sure what do you think about peter pedigree's arm yeah i wanted to talk
[00:50:54] about that that's crazy is that a weird one didn't draco have the arm at some point too
[00:51:02] oh no no okay so draco had something different called the hand of glory okay what is the hand
[00:51:06] of glory the hand of glory is an item that uh is in borgen and burke's and it's like a candlestick
[00:51:15] if you hold it it's like a hand that holds a candlestick if you hold it in your hand
[00:51:19] it only gives light to you okay there's gonna give light to anybody else around you
[00:51:24] and then the arm thing is like a bionic arm the arm thing is like a bionic arm yeah yeah so
[00:51:29] when he cut off his hand um to give the flesh of the servant to resurrect voldemort uh voldemort
[00:51:37] paid him back by giving him this arm so the bionic arm does the arms just do like what wormtail
[00:51:43] wants or it does like it's master's bidding so it's like for voldemort more than it's for pedigree
[00:51:48] well it no it's it's supposed to do pedigree's bidding it's supposed to just be like an extension
[00:51:54] of his arm why does it kill him it kills him because he owes harry a life debt so this is like
[00:51:59] deep magic at work which is kind of cool does was it gonna do that even if harry didn't say like you
[00:52:04] owe me would that have happened because harry like brings that up that's a great question and then the
[00:52:09] arm is like uh-oh psych because there have been times in the past where where the this debt could
[00:52:16] have been repaid again and it wasn't and this is the only moment so potentially when harry's
[00:52:22] like actually speaks the phrase you owe me maybe the hand realizes and it's like all right well
[00:52:28] let me kill him let me do this bidding here so there might be magic in the actual words i don't
[00:52:33] know if i don't know that's a great question it's a great question actually crazy it's nice that he's
[00:52:42] like out of the way though now i know don't have to worry about him anymore i know can't stand pedigree
[00:52:49] i wonder if they could have taken the arm and like it would have been helpful to them
[00:52:56] that's a little a little gross it's collecting objects you're talking about it being gross
[00:53:04] going to someone's grave you're cutting off someone's arm now it's a it's not a real arm it's
[00:53:09] like a bionic arm you're like rocker have you seen the guardians of the galaxy no oh come on
[00:53:15] there's a scene where uh rocket raccoon the raccoon guy he's like uh he takes him like a bionic leg for
[00:53:23] a person or he makes someone else go get a bionic leg for the person he's like i don't even need that
[00:53:27] i just was hoping you would go get it just like you know for kicks and giggles and that's like you
[00:53:31] just go get an arms from it could be helpful you could just chuck it at people and maybe it starts
[00:53:36] choking everybody that's great um here is another line that we get at last there was a peculiar
[00:53:55] grinding noise from above all of them looked upward in time to see the crystal chandelier tremble
[00:54:01] then with a creak and an ominous jingling it began to fall bellatrix was directly beneath it
[00:54:06] dropping hermione she threw herself aside with a scream the chandelier crashed to the floor
[00:54:11] in an explosion of crystal and chains falling on top of hermione and the goblin who still clutched
[00:54:17] the sword of gryffindor glittering shards of crystal flew in all directions draco doubled over
[00:54:23] his hands covering his bloody face as ron ran to pull hermione out of the wreckage harry took his
[00:54:28] chance he leapt over an armchair and wrested three wands from draco's grip pointed all of them at gray
[00:54:35] back and yelled stupefy yeah the werewolf was lifted off his feet by the triple spell flew up to
[00:54:42] the ceiling and then smashed to the ground nice so good i hate gray back so much he's gross
[00:54:49] there um he's one of the grossest characters yeah agreed encountered so far agreed he's he might be my
[00:54:56] least favorite of everyone in this book as far as maybe maybe just as far as like grossness is
[00:55:02] he's just like i hate umbridge so much because she's just unbearable i hate voldemort hate bellatrix
[00:55:08] but he is just like next level just creepy yeah i remember saying about umbridge that she's like
[00:55:16] a better villain figure than voldemort and i feel like that's with uh gray back gray what's his name
[00:55:22] yeah gray back yeah i think that's like with him too like if there was a whole book about him i
[00:55:28] that would be excruciating like he's on par with umbridge as being like very villain
[00:55:34] gross type of person agreed it's brutal and he's like a werewolf all the time
[00:55:39] is he a werewolf right now he just looks like it no he's not a werewolf he can only be a werewolf
[00:55:45] at a full moon he positions himself in places so he can like you know bite children but he just wants
[00:55:49] to bite children all the time though again which is very pedophile coded i think yeah on this book
[00:55:55] i think she underwrote that which is good i'm glad she underwrote that because i don't want to know
[00:55:59] the dealings about a pedophile but he's pretty he's a pretty creepy dude in this book yeah i agree but
[00:56:07] yeah he's he's uh maybe a bit more rough when he's not in werewolf form and um he's a little weirder
[00:56:14] but yeah it's a strange dude but at the end of this the tiny elf trotted into the room his shaking
[00:56:24] finger pointing at his old mistress you must not hurt harry potter he squeaked kill him sissy shrieked
[00:56:29] bellatrix there was another loud crack and our sister's wand flew into the air and leaned out on
[00:56:33] the other side of the room you dirty little monkey bawled bellatrix how dare you make a witch how dare
[00:56:38] you take a witch's wand how dare you defy your masters dobby has no masters squeaked the elf
[00:56:44] dobby is a free elf and dobby has come to save harry potter and his friends
[00:56:50] and then when they transport and they disapparate and learn he's dead
[00:56:57] says dobby no don't die don't die the elf's eyes found him and his lips trembled with the effort to
[00:57:04] form words harry potter and then with a little shudder the elf became quite still and his eyes
[00:57:12] were nothing more than great glassy orbs sprinkled with light from the stars they could not see
[00:57:21] dobby dobby's so sweet i know i'm gonna miss him you really go from hating him in the beginning in
[00:57:27] the second book so coming to love him yeah and i love how he makes his appearance in this book and then
[00:57:34] he's like the key piece of this all working and then he just dies it's just from a knife getting
[00:57:40] chucked at him i know it's devastating can they not like save him with magic honestly there's a
[00:57:47] great point in this book where like you're like why don't they try to save him with magic it's
[00:57:52] ridiculous i think a lot of stab victims survive yeah i mean he's smaller so maybe that's like a
[00:57:58] that's like a massive gash going through you yeah that's like a huge size sword going through me
[00:58:03] but still i'm like magic's got to be able to save that snape did some weird magic to save draco from
[00:58:08] the slashing wounds so i'm like why can't you do that with dobby or like disapparate real quick to
[00:58:15] you know a hospital and bring him a house off and be like don't ask any questions but fix this thing
[00:58:21] right now it's a weird looking kid you know find the phoenix yeah right make the phoenix cry on him
[00:58:29] that would have been great ah but dobby's dead no he must die so sad how many more people die in this
[00:58:37] book oh i don't know
[00:58:43] we'll see who do you not want to die everyone who do you think is gonna die everyone
[00:58:51] i don't want anyone to die i mean okay give me uh give me your top
[00:58:56] five list of people that you do not want to die okay mcgonagall okay this is hard because i don't
[00:59:06] want any of the trio to die and that only leaves one more no just put the trio as one okay trio i
[00:59:11] want to live mcgonagall i literally want everyone to live jenny neville dean okay all of the weasleys
[00:59:21] okay um tongs and lupin i want like mundungus can die if he's still alive
[00:59:33] okay um any of the dark wizards can die like i want them to die voldemort can die i don't want
[00:59:45] creature to die winky can die who do you have any ideas i don't want the goblins to die either you
[00:59:53] don't want the goblins no i kind of like the goblins okay all right all right all right
[00:59:59] i'm just gonna say that might change because the goblins are a little nasty okay but for now
[01:00:05] they just feel like pretty chill yeah hagrid don't want to die definitely don't want hager to die
[01:00:14] sprout any of the good everyone every character lizzie doesn't want to die yeah i mean why would i want
[01:00:21] anyone to die yeah agreed agreed it's like the worst thing that can happen
[01:00:28] i would feel bad if draco died honestly i would feel sad because he's kind of had he's like doesn't
[01:00:34] have his full redemption but he's like you know coming around no i think it's more like his parents
[01:00:38] that are yeah like forcing him into all this stuff yeah agreed yeah anything else in this chapter
[01:00:47] that's it well thanks for joining us on our journey of harry potter and the second time reader
[01:00:53] bye see ya

