Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Ch 20-21

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[00:01:42] 21 and finally finding out about this symbol.

[00:02:41] in such a situation, you know? We don't...

[00:02:42] Could you imagine?

[00:02:44] There can't be another neck genie going on.

[00:02:48] But it feels a little weird.

[00:02:52] Well, I guess there's no Parseltongue, so that's something.

[00:02:55] But it felt like they were so quick to be harsh, where I was like, well, give him a

[00:03:00] break.

[00:03:01] He's been very supportive all along.

[00:03:02] So maybe there's more to this story, or old is this dude? So were you ready for these questions?

[00:04:20] I wasn't ready for these questions though.

[00:04:22] So I got lots of questions.

[00:04:24] But also anytime it's something like this, we're looking for a Ravenclaw object. What is it? Can you read it? Oh, the invention is this thing that removes all sources of distraction from the thinkers immediate area. So they could like put these things on and just be like focused on solving this thing. And if you combine this thing with some liquid luck or like some of those other things you can take

[00:05:40] before a test like the wizarding Adderall whatever they call it, they're

[00:05:45] they're gonna be doing all right. But stupid idea where you finally know what this symbol is all about. This is a great chapter, guys. All right, you guys ready for to finally figure out? Yeah, but what I also don't get is a lot of people have this symbol at their wedding. And we're gonna get it tattooed. We're gonna get a wedding planning. And then I'm like, what, the tale of three brothers

[00:07:01] does somebody kinda says?

[00:07:02] And deathly hallows.

[00:07:05] Whoa.

[00:07:06] Maybe everyone just loves Xenophilus was gonna touch Ron

[00:08:22] and then she was gonna desaporate all of them.

[00:08:25] To save him?

[00:08:26] All for them. Because did she kill him

[00:08:28] at the end? But it feels like they were willing to just let XL go and like whatever happens happens We're gonna bring the whole house down and leave So three death eaters were in there and XL. I believe the primo just Destroys a floor Hmm takes the floor out which was part of like holding the house together. It brought everything down

[00:09:43] So she did it to Xenophilus. She did an oblivion

[00:10:43] wearing the invisibility cloak instead of Harry. But I'm not sure why.

[00:10:44] Yeah, why?

[00:10:45] Why is that?

[00:10:46] Why does Ron have to wear the invisibility cloak

[00:10:48] and Harry doesn't?

[00:10:52] Think about her, why would Hermione do that?

[00:10:57] Think very logically,

[00:10:58] because this is how Hermione's thinking.

[00:11:03] Because she loves him more. Because they would be implicated if they saw him maybe so She is right now in the Death Eaters mind The only two people on the run are Hermione and Harry they don't know where Hermione is she's fled She's covered her tracks with her parents and everything like that But Ron is supposed to be sick in bed with spatter Roy and that's why he's not at school. So if they see him with

[00:12:24] The Harry and Harry and Hermione the Death Eaters are definitely going after the weasleys

[00:13:21] this in the next chapter as well. It happens right then.

[00:13:22] So it's not really a spoiler really.

[00:13:24] And it's like.

[00:13:25] Yeah, that does make sense.

[00:13:26] On something, so thank you.

[00:13:27] Yeah, there you go.

[00:13:28] I'll give you a little bit, Jen.

[00:13:30] That's the only little bit I'm ever gonna give you.

[00:13:32] Ever?

[00:13:34] Yep.

[00:13:35] That's it.

[00:13:36] That's the only spoiler you'll get.

[00:13:38] Every spoiler from this one on,

[00:13:39] you're just gonna guess from it.

[00:13:40] But I'll give you a little tidbits here and there.

[00:13:43] This was juicy.

[00:13:45] It was.

[00:13:46] Lots of juicy stuff. that said, it was only a few weeks ago, and it said Harry Potter, whatever, number one. Yeah, undesirable number one. Yeah, yeah, and so I was like, oh, that's this book, forget this, and just crumpled it up, and we'll actually fold it very nicely and put it in the attic so we can re-gift it later. That's great. But yeah, trying to avoid those things. Yeah.

[00:15:06] It's the perfect balance. I'm a believer of course. But we can take things with a little skepticism all the same and we can say could the

[00:16:22] Sorcerer's Stone or Philosopher's Stone be the, with the initials. Is it a believer or was it him saying that he has something? Interesting. Like the cloak. And then he's writing to Grindelwald, whatever, is it Grindelwald?

[00:17:42] So he probably had something too.

[00:17:46] So you think Grindelwald stole it and then Dumbledore defeated but I wonder if that was during this whole exchange of items Hmm maybe oh That'd be really weird though

[00:20:23] Because just for a second I was thinking well

[00:21:21] in the dead, so I was trying to make a connection with them trying to use, let's say Grindelwald

[00:21:24] stole the stone, they maybe were trying to use that

[00:21:26] to save Ariana's life, but then it ended up killing her

[00:21:31] or did the same thing in the story where it made her

[00:21:32] shell of herself.

[00:21:33] That's what I was saying, they had all three things.

[00:21:35] Yeah, because Dumbledore had the thing,

[00:21:37] and then if it was the Philosopher's Stone,

[00:21:40] the wand and the invisibility cloak, but then.

[00:21:42] But she still died, it was to bring someone back to life,

[00:21:45] but it doesn't even work.

[00:21:46] Yeah, it didn't save her.

[00:21:47] So this makes one master of death, Yeah, that would be good, because then it means if that was the actual death stone, it means Voldemort can't get it. That don't get the death stone, it's almost the worst, because it brings back a hollow body. Oh yeah, you're right. It doesn't actually bring them back to life. So maybe it would have been better to sabotage Voldemort, let him get it, and then it's a hollow shell of whatever. But if he's already doing Horcruxes, he doesn't need this thing.

[00:23:01] But he wants him to do death. He wants to combine all three,

[00:23:02] so he can be super powerful.

[00:23:04] What if he puts his soul in all three items? and see him. Death Eaters don't see him, but then or granted Crouch Jr. could have just been using some other clues in the environment. Like maybe he wasn't seeing Harry, but he was seeing that the step was holding on to someone and he was able to put two and two together. Um, I don't know how the step thing works or maybe he couldn't see Harry, but

[00:24:21] he could see through the step and see like a leg stuck in the stair that the trap stair.

[00:24:25] So maybe there, maybe he wasn't actually seeing's the hope here. And if there's a hope that he at some point had all three of these objects, I can't figure out how that's possible. But again, there's the hope that it is possible now,

[00:25:40] but we still don't understand enough about it.

[00:25:42] Like what would that really do?

[00:26:45] best that we've ever done in our entire history of podcasting. A career of podcasting.

[00:26:48] Um, okay.

[00:26:49] So give me a quick summary of xenophilius love good chapter 20.

[00:26:54] Um, so we're doing 20 and 21 today.

[00:26:56] So these two chapters is kind of like getting to the love good house and

[00:27:02] then leaving at the very end.

[00:27:05] So this is halfway through that journey.

[00:28:03] There are a few good lines that start this chapter, and it's some funny relational bouts happening.

[00:28:07] But it says,

[00:28:08] Hermene sulkenus could not mar his buoyant spirits.

[00:28:12] The sudden upswing in their fortunes

[00:28:14] and appearance of the mystery doe,

[00:28:15] the recovery of Gryffindor's sword,

[00:28:16] and above all, Ron's return made Harry so happy

[00:28:20] that it was difficult to maintain a straight face.

[00:28:23] Then he says, oh yeah, well, it's not a bad,

[00:28:26] it's just a bad habit we Which is true, I guess, but isn't that a little bit healthy at this point? A healthy fear of the dude who's killed so many people? But think about it, if he convinced everyone to say the name, and they wouldn't put the taboo on it. Because you can't track it, everybody's saying it. Even Vern is saying, oh, Vern.

[00:29:40] Okay.

[00:29:41] You don't fully believe that statement?

[00:29:42] I do.

[00:29:43] No, no, I do believe that that is true,

[00:29:44] but I think if you believe that statement, especially knowing that eventually Harry's gonna have to fight Voldemort to the death. So it's like, yeah, maybe not right this second, Voldemort hasn't risen to power yet, but hey Harry, when it gets a little closer, just know that names actually do have power and you gotta be a little bit careful with this. It's like, you know, Voldemort can track. So I wanna trust Dumbledore again,

[00:31:01] but it just feels like one of those things

[00:31:03] that I'm like, ooh, yikes.

[00:31:04] If Ron's right about this,

[00:31:06] it's actually dangerous to say his name. Death Eaters on the search for you. And I feel like this set of chapters, especially the next one, actually supports this idea of old wives' tales that spooky stories, little things passed down by generations, like general wizarding stories

[00:32:21] actually have some truth to them.

[00:32:23] So then I guess my question is,

[00:32:26] or maybe it's already been confirmed here by Ron, It gives them the heebie jeebies. Like Hagrid doesn't say it. Not that there's like lore behind it. There is lore behind it, but it just is like a creepy thing to say. Collect the heebie jeebies. Yeah, for sure. It's just weird that everyone has the same reaction to it. Yeah. I think that it goes to show how terror that he caused. Like how scary he actually was

[00:33:40] and no one even wants to say his name.

[00:33:41] And I'm just trying to draw the comparisons

[00:33:43] and say like, did those same things happen? the fear element that makes it worth saying his name. Yeah, there's definitely, these two chapters are like the interesting lore. That's why I love the Tales of Beedledeward. We should like read those. We can, after when we're done, we'll read them. There's, because there's five tales in them. They're like fun little tales.

[00:35:00] The best one is obviously the Tale of the Three Brothers,

[00:35:02] like the culmination of it, but there's other like

[00:35:04] cute ones in there that are fun. So you guys went through maybe a few different names. But you never had like a conclusive person that you thought the dough was. You have two guesses. I definitely do now. Huh? Yeah. I feel like it has to be someone alive though, right?

[00:36:20] I actually was thinking no.

[00:36:22] Oh, okay.

[00:36:25] How would it not be Kendra or Ariana um because again I'm

[00:38:42] that this would be from the sword. And then we don't know Gajur Gryffindor's wife

[00:38:44] or any other relatives or whatever.

[00:38:46] Like it could be another female in his life

[00:38:49] or maybe the male-female thing doesn't actually matter

[00:38:51] with Patronuses.

[00:38:54] But those were my main thoughts.

[00:38:55] Hmm.

[00:39:01] You guys had some funky theories for those ones.

[00:39:04] The Ariana, it being a Pokemon or a well-trained animal that it can do like whatever? Like yeah, go get Harry, bring him to this spot. You're like giving it a list of instructions. It felt a little odd because I feel like usually it was a one-way trip, like go find this person, or you're just releasing it and it just knows what to do

[00:40:21] when it encounters the darkness of a Dementor.

[00:40:24] And it absorbs that.

[00:40:26] But I guess it felt odd, the idea that it was a Patronus. Grindelwald and Male you guys I feel like you guys just guessed every single person of the books Like Lily James Grindelwald Oh Snape Dumbledore And I was gonna say put tune you to have petunia because I think we

[00:41:41] Like she we never really knew if she was a squib or a wizard or whatever. So we're like

[00:42:42] They could ask, like Snape could talk to the portraits on the wall and be like,

[00:42:43] yo, give me the scoop on this thing.

[00:42:44] And then they would probably know, right?

[00:42:47] And they're like, yeah, well actually Harry did this thing

[00:42:48] last year where he just, it appeared in the sorting hat.

[00:42:51] Or is the sword more physical than that?

[00:42:53] That it's like the sword in the stone.

[00:42:55] Like the sword can be there,

[00:42:57] but you just can't wield it to its full power

[00:42:59] unless you're a worthy Gryffindor.

[00:43:01] And the sword itself is just a physical object

[00:43:02] that can't move itself.

[00:43:04] I don't know.

[00:43:05] I like thinking it's a little bit living,

[00:43:06] hopping around doing its thing. Yeah, they will. I think I have to. Why? You understand why Hermione is a little mad, but ladies, from a woman's perspective, can you give us insight into why Hermione is so furious? And why she hasn't talked to him before. She's got to get over it first. Those frustrations.

[00:44:22] I mean, you talk.

[00:44:24] No, you talk.

[00:44:26] No, I don't know, you're better at this psyche stuff. No, no, I mean, that's definitely true. I should have read this chapter so you have like more specific thoughts. I was like, again, women. But it's true, it's, anger is a mask.

[00:45:42] I was just talking about this to someone.

[00:45:45] If you're angry about something,

[00:45:46] it's a mask I'd say. Oh really, I thought it was being longer than that, like a month, but I just don't remember if there was any other like gauge. They left the Xenophilius and they said it was still Christmas holiday, so it might have been, still been like, maybe a week or two have passed. Oh okay, I was thinking they were working out something with the portrait of Phineas,

[00:47:02] where it felt like that, when they were talking about that,

[00:47:05] I thought they were talking about it in like longer term, It's good or easier to be mean to someone and give them a hard time so you're not attaching yourself to them again, because you don't know if they're gonna leave again. Ooh, wow, that's actually interesting. Yeah, because that's the question. Is the wall going up? Yeah. Yeah.

[00:48:22] Because all of her anger comes from love.

[00:48:24] Yeah. Like, how?

[00:48:26] Well, only because the only reason she's so mad Yeah, Ron has unshakeable optimism here. I think he has to. He's like overcompensating. This isn't normally who Ron is, but I think he's overcompensating so much as to prove to Hermione that he's like, you're gonna stick around. I feel like he's not joking around with her as much as he usually does, right?

[00:49:40] Yeah.

[00:49:41] Because I don't think Hermione's allowing it.

[00:49:42] I think he's trying to.

[00:49:43] Right.

[00:49:44] Well, yeah, I would shut that down.

[00:49:46] Yeah. and her not being there and how Zeno is a little shifty right now. But what would you have done in Zeno's position? Because when he sees Harry, he brings him in, he's like, you ought to not be here. And he says, let me go get Luna. And that's when he goes to alert. So he alerts him in this chapter. That's stupid, I don't think.

[00:51:01] I think it's dumb because I've seen all the movies

[00:51:04] and shows you're watching.

[00:51:05] It's like an evil person doesn't the greater good But no if I was in that in his shoes I would and so I get it from his perspective as much as I'd love to be like no you got to do the right thing Cuz think of the all the other people Because I'm saying you're all dead already. So like but but they're actually I actually think they're gonna let Luna go after this

[00:53:24] something yeah maybe if anybody could do it she could but I think this is really good writing because it shows the desperation of xenophilius like the

[00:53:27] Death Eaters come and they say like you've tried something every week and

[00:53:30] it's been pathetic attempts like he's gonna reveal the definitive proof that

[00:53:34] the crumpled horn snork act exists or something like that like stupid stuff

[00:53:38] you can tell it's this guy who's lost his wife and that's the other sad thing

[00:53:41] when they go up to Luna's room and they see all the pictures of themselves on It bothers me because they're not looking at what he is He has lost and he is about to lose right now Yep, so that's why Hermione is a heck of a lot smarter with her whole yeah, and we'll talk about that in the next chapter That was brilliant So we'll talk about the next chapter, but I don't know

[00:55:05] Does you know I sympathize sympathize with Zeno a little bit? Yeah. Yeah agreed. He's in a tough spot

[00:55:08] Yeah, and and now if they read his mind. So I don't know how important this all is, but this is the closest contact they've had with Harry in a long time. Voldemort in, well I guess that was last week, Voldemort in Godric's Hollow. But other than that, it was a long time ago, so it just feels a little bit strange. So it kind of played out perfectly in some ways

[00:56:22] to get them out of there.

[00:56:24] And hopefully Luna released.

[00:56:26] There is one more thing in this chapter

[00:56:27] that I want read so slow, and then the speed, I missed that it was a stone bust. I thought it was a picture of Ravenna Ravenclaw wearing it.

[00:57:43] So I thought this could be a Horcrux

[00:58:42] giving yourself a little direction. Cause they're a little lost about what to do next.

[00:58:45] But, let me read my margins here.

[00:58:54] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:58:55] I said don't trust Xenophilius.

[00:58:57] Do a snake check.

[00:59:00] A next genie check.

[00:59:00] I know for real, yeah, yeah.

[00:59:02] So it's weird because you trust him,

[00:59:04] but you don't trust him because he's giving more information.

[00:59:06] And even at the next chapter, if there's something else there, there's something more attached to it. And this idea of like this headdress that he's putting on Rowena Ravenclaw is like, what is he talking about? Is this fact or fiction? Is this another one of his like weird inventions? Or is this actually steeped in some something more real? But you don't really know. So it's weird.

[01:01:22] made me like, wait, what's going on? Because where your treasure is, your heart will be.

[01:01:25] And I'm like, wait, your greatest treasure

[01:01:28] is beyond measure?

[01:01:29] So I'm like trying to make connections

[01:01:30] between these things of clues.

[01:01:32] So if wit is your greatest treasure,

[01:01:34] is that a line?

[01:01:40] You know what I mean?

[01:01:41] Like he's saying this line, is that like a wizard thing?

[01:01:45] A catch phrase, a little coll tale folktale that is talking about mysterious objects, we're learning about the symbol, what it means, and then a little discussion

[01:03:00] between these three and Xenophili were all thinking the same thing. It so happened that a cloak exactly like the ones you know had described was in

[01:04:22] the room with them at that very moment.'t think any of the three would be familiar to know how great this one is compared to others. Except for what Xenophilius told them. But like, it also feels weird to like trust Xenophilius about this while he's literally in the midst of betraying them.

[01:05:40] So I don't know, something about it just feels

[01:05:42] a little off.

[01:05:45] It could be.

[01:05:46] It lines up that the stair was holding on to someone even if he couldn't tell and he'd be like, it must be an invisibility cloak. Cause Moody would be like death there. Like death can't see whoever's wearing this invisibility cloak, but Moody can. But Moody can, yeah.

[01:07:00] Yeah, it does feel a little funky but you're right.

[01:07:02] There are other explanations for that.

[01:07:05] But it also just feels funny if this is that important on. Am I totally wrong? I thought it was referenced where it was like a chain link kind of like mithril. Maybe that's, maybe Dumbledore should have made that a little more clear to Harry. I mean, maybe not, maybe it doesn't matter, and Dumbledore knew that it would be fine somehow, but it's just not giving me that vibe of being that amazing

[01:09:42] because of how it was treated and talked about and everything.

[01:09:47] Maybe, and nobody else was as wowed. Yeah, he said there's all there was all sorts of these legends of duels or like people not necessarily even duels They're all sorts of legends of people Like Getting their throat slit or like dying in the middle of the night or whatever it is because cuz they had the wand Yeah, they had the wand and bad things happen. I guess I always keep going back to how like

[01:11:02] Dumbledore signed

[01:11:04] His name with that symbol. Yeah is the greater good. I like that theory actually. That's an interesting one too because they have this one be Grindelwald's mark. Probably because he signed it too. Yeah. And so did Dumbledore but no one saw that Dumbledore signed it that way. So maybe that was like a pack happen. Yeah, maybe. And... hmm. And then how about the resurrection stone? Does this thing exist? And where would it be? I like the one lion or Hermione. It's like, that's ridiculous. You'd have to use every single... You'd have to test every single stone in the entire universe.

[01:13:40] And Zena's like, I'm glad that you're finally opening up your mind.

[01:13:43] Yeah, that is. That's a great line.

[01:13:46] Kind of showing the zany side. of people and yeah, did it get passed down generation to generation? Is that why the Potter family was such a thing? Because Voldemort's always like the Potters. So could they be descended from the Peverill family? Well also because that was the grave, right? Yeah, you can notice Peverill.

[01:15:03] Yeah, I mean they could be. And we had speculated that the,

[01:16:04] stone can be a bazore in the stomach with goat. Is there a goat that's been alive for a long time

[01:16:06] and just had this stone chilling in it?

[01:16:08] Aberforth's goat has just been

[01:16:11] just sucking on this stone for a long time.

[01:16:15] So you guys are even talking about these

[01:16:17] like things that Harry should go after right now.

[01:16:20] So should Harry pivot the Horcrux quest

[01:16:23] and go after these deathly hallows?

[01:16:26] Is that how he's gonna die and now I'm thinking there's a chance he'll come back. Oh interesting. But they've got to find the resurrection stone. Yeah. And I feel like their their paths have aligned because we're thinking the Elder Wand was stolen by Grindelwald. They already wanted to

[01:17:40] find him anyway because of the symbol. where did it go? You know, did he try and find a way to get it to Harry? Is it Harry's wand? Is it some other? Is it Hiddenet Hogwarts? It feels weird. So you guys think that he should pivot from Horcruxes to Hallows? A little bit.

[01:19:00] Well, you kind of need both.

[01:19:01] It doesn't matter if you have everything in, if you I don't think he does anymore. Oh, why? Well, because I think so you did think he either he was able to it lasted when Dumbledore defeated him or somebody else stole it earlier on if the thing he stole was even

[01:20:22] the elder wand, because it could have been any one. We don't know what he stole from Gregorovich.

[01:20:25] Yeah, but he jumped out a window with something.

[01:20:27] And I like thinking that is one of these things.

[01:21:24] he has is the stone or the invisibility cloak if it's another one.

[01:21:26] I don't know.

[01:21:28] I think of death as being tall.

[01:21:30] You know?

[01:21:31] So, if death were to wear an invisibility cloak,

[01:21:36] it'd be kind of large.

[01:21:37] Yeah.

[01:21:38] Could you cut it in half?

[01:21:40] Is it possible that Harry's cloak is only half a cloak?

[01:21:44] Actually in the movies he does cut a portion of his cloak.

[01:21:47] Oh really, what happens to it? next stop because he either stole from Grigorovich the wand or a Horcrux or because again I'm saying Voldemort really wants to find out what this thing moment and that's why Dumbledore was able to defeat him or something like that. So, and then where he is now, like is another interesting question for, if he has the wand, is this book just gonna become a race

[01:24:23] to see who gets to Grindelwald first?

[01:25:23] Harry having the invisibility cloak really helps in that regard because he could maybe use that to steal it.

[01:25:25] Um, since it, uh, it feels like stealing is the way to get it or maybe beating

[01:25:30] people, I'll have to read that part again because I only read it in the live read.

[01:25:34] But, um,

[01:25:38] it's, um, well for the elder one, it really did. So much. So great. Which one is the best for you guys?

[01:27:02] The cloak or the wand? I think I'll leave.

[01:27:05] I think the wand.

[01:27:06] I was gonna say the wand.

[01:27:07] But it makes you a target.

[01:27:09] I know. Which is tragic, wants to bring back his loved ones. So like, it's interesting how different people would answer this question. Someone said like the resurrection stone, you probably know they've gone through like some, some serious loss or something like that. But it doesn't really bring them back. It's like, yeah, it goes to them. Yep.

[01:28:20] Yeah.

[01:28:20] Or hollow version.

[01:28:21] Yeah.

[01:28:22] That weirds me out.

[01:28:24] Cause you think I would choose that?

[01:28:25] Yeah.

[01:28:26] But I don't, I couldn't be the resurrection stone. I'm saying 80% sure. Interesting. So you think that Dumbledore, maybe Dumbledore was really the rightful owner of it, but he just never really knew. It, if that's how it works, but I'm also just not sure because it almost feels like

[01:31:00] the wand itself, it determines who the rightful owner is. Meaning if you're holding it, you're And that makes it a scary thing because. It's probably what Voldemort is after. To defeat Harry from his perspective. So maybe for that reason, Harry shouldn't be going after it right now because he's bound to run into Voldemort if he's looking for it. So that's actually an interesting one, too. If Voldemort that's like if so, Voldemort just picks us up.

[01:31:03] Does it kind of make him the rightful owner of the wand?

[01:31:05] Well, it seems like it. Because again, like when the dude was sleeping,

[01:32:02] He's gonna connect the whole trail. He's gonna go home

[01:32:08] He's gonna look through his notebook and find that the exact trail where this I have all the names

[01:32:13] Do we know Barnabas

[01:32:19] Who took the one from Barnabas Devoril? What's yeah, I do think so because Dumbledore went to Snape with the hand issue.

[01:33:42] And I think Snape would have picked up on that. Yeah, that's a great point.

[01:33:43] I don't know that he would have known.

[01:33:44] It might not be a normal way to do it.

[01:33:47] But he might have.

[01:33:48] Does Snape even know if it was cut or loose, or if it was actually going somewhere. I'm thinking they cut all the horcruxes, and all of a sudden Voldemort just ascends. He's like, dang it, go! And his god, his spirit is just off to, or I should say, down to.

[01:35:02] And so it's just the idea that if there's no tension

[01:35:06] on a tether, I don't think hand. Ron vanished beneath the cloak,

[01:36:24] the printing press blocking the stairs was vibrating. I forgot what I said. Well, it know that he's innocent. He actually was intending on doing what the Death Eaters would have approved of, turning on them, turning them in to get his daughter back. And even that intention might be enough to say,

[01:39:01] all right, we'll give her back, you tried your best,

[01:39:04] whatever, that's being a gosh of affection for Luna. Let's go on to that. A favorite, favorite moment, unless Danny has anything else in this chapter. Well, of course I do. Let me just look one second.

[01:40:21] Skim through it. I'm sure you have tons.

[01:40:26] Oh, there was only...

[01:41:21] Well, that's when they were leaving, we're like, they may never come back.

[01:41:22] I did say it's worth investing a little more time into it.

[01:41:26] Dangerous, I think, to go back there,

[01:41:28] but probably safer than looking for Grindelwald.

[01:41:31] Yeah, probably.

[01:41:33] The only other thing was,

[01:41:38] how, where was it at the beginning?

[01:41:41] You can keep going with the end of the chapter

[01:41:44] and I'll keep looking for this thing,

[01:41:45] so forget exactly what it was.

[01:41:46] Oh, wait, yeah, it's called the Deathly Hallows. So we get more of a deep dive on them in that one. I just happened to turn to a few pages later where I underlined, say more, I said. One of those superstitions, isn't it? Mayborn witches will marry muggles.

[01:43:00] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:43:01] And I was like, huh, but the next line,

[01:43:03] jinx by twilight, undone by midnight.

[01:43:06] And I'm like, we're just come maybe Grindelwald is you know yeah but it's that one's like a simple one it's just married just married muggles but that's cool you know yeah and we like it all right sorry I keep do you know a Voldemort's birthday why do we care I know maybe he's gonna maybe I'm saying maybe he's gonna marry a muggle or maybe he married a muggle and it's like

[01:44:22] something in his past I was gonna say here he's gonna dig up the information

[01:44:25] Rita Skeeter is gonna dig up the information this fast Yeah, they would have been like, yeah, exactly. She's the brains. And they were. Yeah. Deprimo. Deprimo. What are your guys' favorite? What are your guys' favorite moment?

[01:45:42] I like them.

[01:45:45] They explain the symbol.

[01:45:46] Yeah.

[01:45:47] Yeah.

[01:47:00] It's a good endale. I might. That's a stretch. Jen's like, dang it. Why did I think of that? I love giving it to Ginny. I would say maybe Luna or Harry, just that dynamic, the rush of affection that he felt towards her, the friendship.

[01:47:02] I feel like that, something about that.

[01:47:04] I don't think it was romantic affection, but still just that bond.

[01:47:07] I think that was a good father. Yeah.

[01:48:26] No, I think I've got to give it to Hermione.