Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Ch 18-19

[00:00:00] It is hot in here.

[00:00:02] Yay.

[00:00:03] It's for me.

[00:00:04] Finally.

[00:00:05] Does that mean you're comfortable?

[00:00:07] Yeah.

[00:00:08] You're the one that's moving around and knitting, so maybe.

[00:00:09] I mean, I'm not moving that much.

[00:00:11] You can.

[00:00:12] That's a nice sweetheart.

[00:00:13] Oh, you can lower it.

[00:00:14] No, it's okay.

[00:00:15] I can put a blank.

[00:00:16] You're right above it, or you're right below it, so you address the heart.

[00:00:19] You guys be warm.

[00:00:20] It's okay.

[00:00:21] I've got layers.

[00:00:22] I just can't take my hat off.

[00:00:23] You're like, yellow wears Waldo today.

[00:00:24] The hat.

[00:00:25] Nice.

[00:00:26] Wow, so true. You know, Walgo and Harry have the same glasses, don't they? No, big round glasses. Put those on. Oh, my gosh. OK, can you guys answer the first question to start the podcast of where or who is Walgo?

[00:01:44] Your recurring segment and the podcast. Only because, well, do we know what Harry Potter's dad, James Petronas was? I know that Harry's is a stag because he wouldn't, his dad would turn into a stag potentially. So, a doe goes with the stag. And I thought, really?

[00:03:01] Right. A relation to Harry makes sense in the sense she's like, I really am a wizard. Boom, I didn't think of that. I was thinking of some other relative we haven't met or his grandparents or something. That like- We know all of them have passed away. So there's nobody on that. What about, oh, what's his name? Grindel, Grindel, no. The one- Grindelwald is bad guy

[00:04:20] we're looking for who's in jail that he's designed.

[00:04:22] What if it's him or a follower of him?

[00:04:25] Cause I'm still like, he's good.

[00:04:27] Okay, so it could Yeah, that's real cool. Like Terminator. Worminator. I still think one of the greatest lines that we ever had on this podcast was

[00:05:40] Expectile Dysfunction.

[00:05:42] Oh, boy.

[00:05:43] We talked about that.

[00:05:44] Yeah.

[00:05:45] What is that?

[00:05:46] That was pretty funny. Could the could he yeah cuz didn't they say it's some kind of magic goes in the sword So could the sword have a patronus? well Yeah Because we know the sword reveals itself to a true someone who's like a true Gryffindor, right? Like her when showing we assume bravery or something So if the sword is able to reveal itself, is this just an embodiment of an extended revealing?

[00:07:03] You know what? I mean? Like the sword is

[00:07:06] Revealing itself to Harry through calling Harry to it, you know to themselves and Dumbledore is more powerful than them and maybe he didn't use this sword though. Yeah, maybe he didn't. But was it like put there or like it appeared there? Like did Dumbledore be like, oh, the sword. Did he just put like a magic spell,

[00:08:20] like reveal itself when needed

[00:08:21] or did he put it in this wood, in the woods here

[00:08:24] and then somehow gotten to Hermione it's like a child's book so like I wonder that brought back like childhood memories this far-fetched well you know what else is weird this that conversation is very telling just

[00:09:42] because they discussed where they were in every other place they're just at there are magical things that there is something about, oh wow, that's weird, something about the name being spoken like Voldemort, they didn't say his name. So this is the first time we've seen another magical thing that seems to be connected to a name being spoken. So what if the thing Harry wears, Hagrid's pouch, what if that had some kind of connection of like when something is spoken, when names are spoken,

[00:11:01] like something that would trigger someone who's good,

[00:11:03] like Hagrid, to be able to go through.

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[00:13:46] of this book. Kristen. I think I actually have something guys. I mean this one, so Hermione gives Harry the life and lies of the Albus Nummitor book, um, they read a section where we find out that Dumbledore and Grindelwald were best friends at one point.

[00:15:00] Harry feels betrayed because he feels like he didn't truly know Dumbledore at all.

[00:15:04] I don't know if there was anything else.

[00:15:05] No.

[00:15:06] Yeah.

[00:15:06] That's pretty much it.

[00:15:07] Yep. Oh yeah, wait, why? Voldemort doesn't have his? But he wasn't using it because he knew it wasn't working. So it's key, does Voldemort know that Harry doesn't have his wand? Or that it's broken? I don't think so. How would he know? Well, because it all happened in the same room. Voldemort wasn't there yet, but Nagini was. Yeah, but it's not like the wand was left there broken

[00:16:20] where he saw it.

[00:16:20] I think it was like they're caught in the fuss of everything.

[00:16:24] Yeah, maybe.

[00:16:24] And then when they got back there, she was like, He was able to reverse spells that Voldemort had done. So that's pretty powerful. So he's lost that ability. It's definitely not good. But fully, I don't know. But yeah, I don't think he lost all ability to fight Voldemort. And wait, at the end he ended up with, whose wand?

[00:17:40] Ron grabbed a spare wand from who?

[00:17:43] From a snatcher.

[00:17:44] From a snatcher.

[00:17:45] Just a random dude in the woods.

[00:17:47] He might've been part troll, they said. So even if you said, forget this wood, let's put this core, which is still a Phoenix feather, that's whole, into a different wand. That could be, you know what I mean? So, but that, you would definitely need someone like Ollivander for that, because I don't even know how that's done. I don't even know if it can be done after the fact, but maybe, maybe it can.

[00:19:04] And that's, in my mind. It's a little more practical than, let's make a new wand. For sure, for sure. Yeah, yeah, maybe. Because they don't know how, they don't know how Ollivander might be dead, they don't know where Ollivander really is. I was thinking Ollivander was. Dead. Dead. And wait, wait. But we're definitely left thinking Grindelwald is dead,

[00:20:21] right, because Grindelwald.

[00:20:22] No, Grigorovich.

[00:20:24] Oh, sorry, yeah, Grigorovich.

[00:20:25] Because we watched that through.

[00:20:27] Yes, through the memory. a huge point in this chapter with Dumbledore and their relationship but Harry has this moment where he's furious at Dumbledore this whole entire chapter he's pretty furious at them yeah but why didn't Dumbledore give them any more any more me. Yeah, I know. But he no one told him that. That's what I'm saying. Um, I think he's so but it's mixed though, because yeah, you're right. Nobody told him. So he had some kind of like instinct to go back. magical. And then he had Harry come with him to another Horcrux. Like, why would he have him come to one?

[00:23:02] Hmm. Yeah. And how much could don't get what the book is for and we don't know when the snitch is gonna open and when it does, what's inside, how will that help anything?

[00:24:21] So it's...

[00:24:24] Is... Weird.

[00:24:25] There's, on top at the beginning of book four or five, he was apologizing to Harry and saying, I should have given you more information, sorry I left you in the dark, there were all these things going on, I thought you weren't ready to hear all this stuff. And he was apologizing, but also, didn't he do all of that again?

[00:25:40] Because Harry's now finding out all this information.

[00:25:43] I don't know, what good motives did Dumbledore have

[00:25:46] to not mention the fact that like You know for the muggles own good of thinking

[00:27:02] Maybe they wanted similar things of just goodness for the world the greater good like how vulnerable are you with your own kids? And I'm thinking if Dumbledore is playing the parent role to Harry, like how much is he really sharing of, hey Harry, when I was younger I made mistakes in this way, this way, this way. Or maybe like you said, he just isn't used to letting people in, but I think the part that bothers me a little is how many other people in the wizarding world know Dumbledore's history,

[00:28:21] but Harry doesn't.

[00:28:22] Like just the fact that like other people know,

[00:28:25] oh yeah, Dumbledore grew Dumbledore in that whole situation

[00:29:41] that would change a lot of my view too but that's just one of these big missing pieces of like well My thoughts about Dumbledore have dropped a little bit because I just find it again hard to justify How in the dark Harry was if for nothing else Just how he felt at the beginning of this chapter that that like Dumbledore had left them to grope in the darkness to wrestle With the unknown and undreamed of terrors alone and unaided. Nothing was explained. Nothing was given freely

[00:31:04] And so I think Harry feeling that distraught

[00:32:05] I'm like looking for clues in this letter. I'm like what's the foundation stone? Is there another stone? I like is that gravestone with the mark of foundation stone?

[00:32:09] I'm like it was just so funny that you just kept mentioning for the greater good in this podcast

[00:32:15] Me and Chris and I sitting here going like oh

[00:32:18] Like the end of the half last one we are going for a rude awakening here

[00:33:22] to get himself expelled from dermestring. He did some dark magic that wasn't allowed.

[00:33:25] It was like experimental magic, but like was it really dark?

[00:33:29] Or they just don't like that he didn't follow rules?

[00:33:32] Maybe.

[00:33:34] Because you're on a kick that you kind of think is good.

[00:33:36] Oh, because why would don't? I don't know.

[00:33:39] We just want Dumbledore to be good so bad.

[00:33:40] I need hope, and that's what I said.

[00:33:41] I need hope that someone is good

[00:33:43] because they're like not in the trajectory of winning this.

[00:34:50] bodies. Has Dumbledore been Geller Grindelwald this whole time? That's why he didn't say any of the background. They've been switching places for fun, sharing time in

[00:34:56] jail. Yeah. Wow. That's even the one thing with the the duel that they

[00:35:03] had, because in I think the newspaper article or whatever it was or like the of the strings they can pull here to try and find more information. So I'm saying right now they need to find Grindelwald and they kind of know where he is, but you got to learn more about him before you just present yourself to him. What are you going to say? Like you're going to break into some prison to try and like talk to him if he's still alive. So at least read that chapter to understand the duel. Um, what Rita thinks about it, and then maybe go to the location of the duel,

[00:36:23] try and understand the situation more. Um, gather some more info about this. reason for his fury. Grindelwald expelled from Dermstrang for near fatal attacks upon fellow students fled the country hours after the girl's death and Albus out of shame or fear never saw him again not until forced to do so by the pleas of the wizarding world." So those are really great questions that she's asking but what are some of the answers or what are some of your guesses?

[00:38:41] What if she? So then maybe she is somewhere.

[00:38:43] No, no.

[00:38:44] You can't die, right?

[00:38:47] Maybe the dough was her dough in the woods.

[00:38:52] Or maybe not even her dough, it could be her.

[00:38:54] So if they only did one.

[00:38:56] We only did one what?

[00:38:57] Horcrux.

[00:38:58] No, no, I don't think it was successful.

[00:39:00] If she died, how could it be?

[00:39:01] Well, that's what I'm asking.

[00:39:02] You can't die and then is the body can the body die and the horcrux

[00:40:21] is still an experience. Yeah, I'm saying yes. So they buried her in the house because she was embarrassed by her or something. Yeah, yeah, I never quite went by that. So could Ariana have killed the mom so that way she has a horcrux? Yeah, maybe, well, I don't know. Then she doesn't even have powers, it sounded like, right? Yeah, no, I don't know, I just don't, I don't know about, I don't know if-

[00:41:41] Whatever, I like my theory.

[00:41:43] You like that she killed her mom?

[00:41:44] No, I'm just saying the mom maybe is bad,

[00:41:46] so somehow she was killed-

[00:41:47] You think Kendra. Yeah, yeah.

[00:43:00] So someone might have had a rough upbringing.

[00:43:03] Or even not so cut and dry as you could be good now

[00:43:06] and then bad later or bad now and good later. Would Dumbledore have seen how do you looked into the mirror of ever said I? Think he I said this once His sister's nickname was thick woolen socks. He sees himself holding a pair of thick woolen socks.

[00:45:42] Yep.

[00:45:43] I don't know.

[00:45:44] It's a horcrux.

[00:45:45] Oh dang.

[00:45:46] The horcrux was pair of wool and socks to give to the elf. So final, final question in this chapter is what do you think of the relationship between Harry and Dumbledore?

[00:47:02] Was it an actual relationship?

[00:47:03] Was it utilitarian?

[00:47:05] Was it like fake? So like, and that disconnect means that Harry is always gonna be in the dark about some things because you can't, you can't be at the same level as someone who's the greatest wizard alive or in this era. So it feels a little bit like he's using Harry maybe for the greater good as this kind of like,

[00:48:21] hey, in order for wizards or humanity to get through

[00:48:26] this thing, we've gotta set up this stuff.

[00:48:28] We've gotta do Horcruxes. between Dumbledore and Harry and like was it true honest love is it deeper is it more of using Harry to get to a certain end or is it somewhere in between is it parent is it friend of these choices and we don't have all those answers yet. So at this point, it feels a little bit like he was keeping Harry in the dark and forcing Harry to go through hard times

[00:51:04] and pain, whether to make him stronger in the long run Like I think it could have started as kind of a friendship or a rapport with the parents. And then when things went really south, he felt like he had to protect Harry. And so it was like a responsibility that turned into like a friendship in a way or a relationship of like father, I don't know, father. I don't think, I mean, I'm annoyed with Harry because it's like, he didn't tell me anything. I know. Right. And Dumbledore is in the afterlife like, I made it so clear, just go over there. Don't you remember what I said? But Hermione's right in the end of this chapter.

[00:53:40] Harry's probably not necessarily mad

[00:53:42] because of all the things that he learned about Dumbledore.

[00:53:44] He's mad that Dumbledore just never told him this stuff. entertain like the emotional side of like relationship with Harry. It's more of like gather information, get him up to speed and not get killed. That's at work. Yeah. It'd be interesting to see how much time they actually spent together. Like in all of this, you could estimate like, you know, each book is a few

[00:55:04] little interactions.

[00:55:07] Remember the one year he didn chapter, Harry sees this.

[00:56:22] Uh, uh, dough walking through the Yeah, I'll just go. This is fine. And we're like, just get Hermione. And again, if it wasn't for Ron coming at that exact moment, he would have what drowned by the, by the neck, by a horcrux possibly. Well, yeah, we don't know. He might've been able to find a way out, but there's, there's one other small line that we'll talk about where, um,

[00:57:44] Ron says he saw someone before Ron emerged in and Harry went and remember he seemed to insult Tonks Patronus when she came back with Harry that one time, which makes me think his Patronus is something- If I go back on everything that I was like, oh, maybe it's a set up thing and Snape's actually playing both sides, but had to kill Dumbledore and Dumbledore's not really dead.

[00:59:00] Not really dead?

[00:59:02] And Snape's actually good.

[00:59:05] We are holding onto this idea of-

[00:59:07] You're saying Dumbledore is tree-beard behind this tree? order or someone else who is like, I was also thinking briefly. Does worm tail know he owes Harry is worm tail aware of the, oh man, how did it come? It was in book like two or three. There's like a life debt or something. So what if worm tail was like, look, let me give him this little thing.

[01:00:21] Maybe this will like pay my debt and then like get him off the book.

[01:00:26] Oh, that's a good point. That's a good point.

[01:01:24] intimidating animals definitely a little bit more like, you know, tough. Well, yeah, yeah, of course. So, okay. So Snape's Patronus. That would mean Snape actually does have a

[01:01:30] correct understanding of Patronus. And so he wasn't saying it from like, because again,

[01:01:35] I'm thinking of death eaters just don't really get the whole Patronus thing because most

[01:01:39] death eaters aren't doing Patronus is maybe even can't, except we see Umbridge Ken. So

[01:01:44] maybe she's not a death eater. We, I don of hope. Look at that. And I was shocked. I was like, wow. It's so good. John really threw us off. John. Yeah. But yeah, I mean the tough question is how did the sword get there?

[01:03:03] Is the dough and the sword the same person?

[01:03:06] Probably, but who is this person? And then why would they put it there and it needed to be in water for a certain charm of protection or something maybe that area is more important than just a campground yeah maybe um there was this note too in this chapter when Danny kind of perked up when it said now who did somewhere off

[01:04:21] as he stripped off and he thought with a pang of Hedwig was that actually Hedwig You don't remember. Here I am, like in the backyard. Where's my letter to Hogwarts? And Jen's in there like, what is he doing? They got Danny 20 years a little too late, but hey, it's slow coming. The sound machine with the owl. Oh yeah, there is an owl on our rainforest sounds. So there's another note in even these chapters that,

[01:05:40] I mean, me and Jen hate this with everything in us,

[01:05:43] but every pore of his body screamed in protest.

[01:05:46] The air in his lungs seemed to freeze solid because of the properties of the sword and that it has to come to a worthy Gryffindor. So is Harry having to show bravery here because of the golden water? Is there any other reason? Is there any other reason why the sword would be at the bottom of this whole pod? Maybe it needs to be temperature controlled.

[01:07:01] Yeah, exactly. But I guess it just can't rust because it's a fancy sword.

[01:08:05] door isn't about like being in cold water or like bravery of like personal pain. I think it's more of

[01:08:10] oh maybe that sounds like my Hufflepuff is showing uh like showing your bravery for your friends

[01:08:18] you know um there's your new shirt my Hufflepuff is showing yeah because I would think the true bravery needs to involve a little more risk or sacrifice or like something than the water itself

[01:09:27] more scared of the cold. Or he can't get wet. But there is something about that in the very first one there was something like the mirror of Eris said like you the only only the person

[01:09:32] who looks in the mirror and wanted to get the stone but not use it for evil intent was able to

[01:09:38] actually have the stone so it might be something with similar with the lake. Yep. We just don't

[01:09:42] know at this point. Yeah maybe you can't see it maybe it was right maybe it's like, Harry's struggling to get up. Just immediately goes in, like beats out the other person. He's like in a sprint there, beats out the other person who was about to save him who we don't know who it is. And jumps in and grabs Harry. Yep. Were you shocked by his return?

[01:11:02] Well, now that we know it's possible, because I didn't think it was possible.

[01:11:04] I'm not shocked that he wanted to come back.

[01:11:07] Yeah, yeah, yeah they, what you mean the people or the objects? The objects and the people. But I think like Ron, I'm not sure if it would work for anyone else. Yeah, like if someone else has the deluminator and what's the connection now between the light that it absorbs and sends out and then you can follow but the light also like kind

[01:12:24] of, it seems like there's a blue thing hand drawn in. But I just can't figure out why, like, because she kind of was looking around that page already. But are there others? What? I love your thought process. I know. I'm like, I can't follow.

[01:13:40] No, I feel like that was like a curveball.

[01:13:42] Like, almost hit me in the face.

[01:13:45] It's so the little scarlet in Ron's eyes,

[01:15:00] which I took to be a glint from the ruby.

[01:15:03] You know, like that kind of like,

[01:15:04] there's a power in the sword,

[01:15:06] it almost like gives bit of a bond. We were making comparisons to Lord of the Rings and the Ring and like, if you show it affection, it can build a connection. Something like along those lines where I think Ron was at

[01:16:20] the edge of it being unhealthy and creating some sort

[01:16:26] of bond there where it almost was doing. And that's that's like that's aligned with some Voldemort mentality of like anger and like and they're like breaking apart friendship where in the vibes of what Ron was feeling

[01:17:42] when he rescued Harry, I don't think the Horcrux would. I view this as true destruction. And you mentioned something interesting. Do you think that, I think it was brought on by Ron wearing this for so long that the Horcrux actually like knew him. If someone just like found this right away and they opened it, would it have the same effect? Like are all the Horcruxes gonna pose

[01:19:00] some kind of problem like this?

[01:19:01] Like the ring seemed to infect Dumbledore with something.

[01:19:05] We don't really know what that is yet.

[01:20:05] Yeah. I don't think you can do that. Yeah, I'm starting to doubt that too. Actively kill. And then it couldn't kill itself,

[01:20:08] right? Because that would feel weird if the sword was a Horcrux.

[01:20:12] Well, alright. So, Nagini, could you pull up your list? Yes. Oh, I

[01:20:20] gotta update it now cuz. You wrong unless it's just condensing the Horcruxes into one.

[01:21:41] So now the Gryffindor sword, which used to be one, is now just like a bigger, more powerful

[01:21:45] Horcrux because it absorbs what, you think it's one of the house things Well, I like the house thing. It just feels so well-rounded, but it also is very what about the sorting hat

[01:23:04] Yeah, that is another good. I was just gonna add that actually because

[01:24:04] Maybe his wife. Yeah, you can't make it for his wife or whoever's grave was in the cemetery That's super old that we couldn't read that has the symbol on it. It was there

[01:24:09] Gryffindor's mom

[01:24:13] Right this thing

[01:24:16] Yeah, but then how do the weasleys end up with like the hey that's the greater good thing the sign

[01:24:23] Wait what the sign maybe it's for the maybe he's a muffled voice from beneath their blankets. Oh man. That's funny. Is she right to be this bad? I mean yeah. She's allowed to be. I thought she would soften up towards the end a little like you get it all out and then

[01:25:40] you're like it was fear.

[01:25:43] She had to have been so afraid that he was like gone.

[01:25:47] That's how I took it.

[01:25:48] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unless it was all part of the conspiracy. But you know what? Yeah. How can you go wrong? Because Harry was seduced into the woods. And then it just feels a little convenient. Like, hey, come into the woods all by yourself. And then what do you know? Ron's back and the sword's back. And there's some mysterious person

[01:27:01] who couldn't reveal themselves.

[01:27:02] They just led you here and then disappeared.

[01:27:04] And it just feels like worth investigating. Ron's talking about it and he's like, the ball of light. He's like, it went in, he's like, it went in here. He's like, I knew exactly what to do. And Ron, like Rupert Grinn acts it perfectly. And then there's one line that's an added one in the movies that I actually think is really good. And Ron goes like, oh, how long do you think she'll be mad at me? And then Harry goes, you just keep talking about that ball of light that goes into your chest and she won't be mad anymore.

[01:28:21] Like Hermione, her acting in that scene

[01:28:23] was really good too.

[01:28:24] She was like, oh, like, it's so tender.

[01:28:26] Like there's a ball of light that Ron followed. Um, but yeah, any, uh, any other tidbits in this chapter? He's, this is a, this is a really good one. I love this chapter so much. Um, I love when Harry said Harry fully realized, um, or I guess the book said Harry fully realized how much his absence had cost them. I'm talking about Ron because when Ron was gone, we were kind of discussing

[01:29:40] that, like how they, like, what did he really do and how did he like, how

[01:29:43] much value did he hold?

[01:29:45] And the Horcrux was making Ron say things like that.

[01:30:42] Like they have to do an odd number for some reason.

[01:30:45] There was like some other experiment where like these people lived in a bubble for like two years or something like that.

[01:30:46] I forgot exactly what it was.

[01:30:48] Someone on stream will know.

[01:30:49] And it was like this wild experiment where people were forced to live there.

[01:30:52] Were you in this experiment?

[01:30:55] I'm the guy.

[01:30:56] I was the ninth guy, but they couldn't, they realized really quickly that I think

[01:31:00] they picked eight people to do this and they realized how divisive eight people

[01:31:03] were when they added one more person to this, they said it like lightened

[01:31:07] everything immensely.

[01:32:03] voice could have given Harry the strength to get up. Shivering violently, he staggered to his feet. There before him, Ron, fully dressed but drenched to the skin, his hair

[01:32:10] plastered to his face, the sword of Gryffindor in one hand and the horcrux dangling from

[01:32:14] its broken chain in the other.

[01:32:16] Oh, that's legit.

[01:32:19] The silver dough was nothing. Nothing compared with Ron's reappearance. He could not believe

[01:32:24] it. I love that.

[01:32:26] Oh, that's's a great point. Because that was good.

[01:33:42] Yeah.

[01:33:43] It is a great realization and that was the connection and who's this Dean?

[01:35:01] If it's not our Dean.

[01:35:02] Really in this entire series,

[01:35:04] Dean has been the main character.

[01:35:05] He's known at this point.

[01:35:06] Exactly.

[01:35:07] That's why we're in the hot tamale energy right there. So true. Wow. They were more beautiful and terrifying, right? Oof.

[01:36:20] Yeah, hot versions of them.

[01:36:24] Getting steamy and horcrux.

[01:36:26] They got like big too, right? For sure. But you know what? We don't know how the deluminator works, but I like to think it shows your heart's desire. And I think it was guiding Ron to Hermione. You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, how cute. So yeah. That's how you feel about it. Yes.

[01:37:43] Do you guys all come up with your hats, Molly? Evil and evil.

[01:37:45] Ron. That's funny.

[01:37:47] That's mine.

[01:38:44] It's like so good. Yeah, we're having the Horcrux. Yeah, it's great

[01:38:50] All right, well nice to join us kind of on our journey of Harry Potter and the first-time readers