[00:00:00] So what do you guys think of Cursed Child?
[00:00:02] You got your little-
[00:00:03] Yeah, I have my notes here and actually no notes.
[00:00:05] Did you actually take notes?
[00:00:06] No, I'm just seeing if it inspires anything.
[00:00:09] I really want to watch it again because I feel like I was so overwhelmed when I watched it for that first time.
[00:00:14] I have so many notes and so many like comments, but I want to watch it again to like firm some of those up.
[00:00:21] Yeah.
[00:00:22] You guys like it. We'll just start with that question. Like it or no?
[00:00:25] I liked it.
[00:00:26] I liked it.
[00:00:27] Yeah.
[00:00:28] Jen?
[00:00:29] Yeah, but how are you gonna rank it?
[00:00:30] Yeah, we'll do-
[00:00:31] We'll just do what we like it now.
[00:00:33] At the very end we're gonna rank it.
[00:00:34] Positive negative.
[00:00:35] Good, bad.
[00:00:37] I liked it.
[00:00:38] I thought it was 0 out of 10.
[00:00:39] Jon, did you like it?
[00:00:40] Oh, okay.
[00:00:41] We'll like give it a numerical ranking at the end.
[00:00:44] I don't think I really knew what to expect. Like I didn't really do much Googling before, but it was good.
[00:00:51] No, I didn't. I was just like, I'm gonna have a good time. That's it.
[00:00:55] Me too.
[00:00:55] But I liked it.
[00:00:56] Yeah, for that reason I think I liked it more because I didn't-
[00:00:59] I mean I had some expectations of what it was gonna be.
[00:01:01] So maybe I went with low expectations thinking it was gonna like break canon and then it just exceeded all my expectations.
[00:01:07] Wow.
[00:01:07] Even on some of the things that they say they broke canon on, I still like in my head came up with explainers for all of it.
[00:01:13] Mm-hmm.
[00:01:13] And then I taught the people in the Discord.
[00:01:15] They're like, yeah, you kind of could come up with those explainers.
[00:01:17] So, um, yeah, I don't know.
[00:01:20] Yeah.
[00:01:21] I thought, yeah.
[00:01:24] I thought, yeah.
[00:01:24] I didn't know what to expect either, which is probably the best thing going into these types of things.
[00:01:29] Mm-hmm.
[00:01:29] Yep.
[00:01:30] And then I thought it was a musical.
[00:01:33] It just wasn't.
[00:01:34] You just think musical.
[00:01:35] And so when they didn't sing, when you feel like they should, I was like, huh.
[00:01:40] They're about to break into song.
[00:01:42] And then nothing.
[00:01:43] It was funny because going in, I knew it wasn't- I didn't think it was gonna be a musical.
[00:01:47] And then the first scene, they're like getting the baggage, the luggage on the train and they're all like dancing and doing a routine.
[00:01:54] I'm like, any second now, Ron's gonna come out and break into song.
[00:01:56] Yeah, but they didn't.
[00:01:57] And when he did it, I was so confused.
[00:01:59] I was like, wait, what's going on?
[00:02:00] Because they're dancing.
[00:02:01] Yeah.
[00:02:02] And they're moving like you should be singing.
[00:02:04] Yeah.
[00:02:05] Yeah.
[00:02:06] That was funny.
[00:02:07] I feel like it was, you were saying it was funny how they kept doing these unnecessary things where everyone comes out and dances or they're spinning stairs around for what feels like-
[00:02:17] Well, that stairs was a long time.
[00:02:19] It took me until intermission to realize those stairs were the-
[00:02:22] I can't believe you're doing that long.
[00:02:24] I just was like, why is this scene over?
[00:02:26] Cool stairs, I don't know.
[00:02:29] But they also kept using the suitcases as like props.
[00:02:33] Yeah.
[00:02:33] Yeah.
[00:02:33] So you didn't know when it was just part of the dancing and then all of a sudden you're like, oh, now we're on the train.
[00:02:37] But then I thought it was cool once you like pick up on it.
[00:02:40] And they had so many awesome effects.
[00:02:42] It was like, it was like a magic show, you know, which is kind of what you want out of Harry Potter, right?
[00:02:47] So I thought all of that was so cool.
[00:02:49] That was probably one of my favorite parts.
[00:02:51] Yeah.
[00:02:52] The effects that they did.
[00:02:53] It's how they did some of the magic.
[00:02:54] I was just dumbfounded for like how they did that practically.
[00:02:57] Mm-hmm.
[00:02:58] I thought that was great.
[00:02:59] Even one of the very first things they did with, I think it was on Hermione's desk.
[00:03:02] They like did the thing and all the, all the pages.
[00:03:05] Oh, yeah.
[00:03:06] That was excellent.
[00:03:07] How did you do that?
[00:03:07] That was so cool.
[00:03:09] Yep.
[00:03:10] And then they had the one magic scene where they were like battling.
[00:03:13] And then we talked about the ping pong scene.
[00:03:15] Yeah.
[00:03:15] Old video about how they're playing ping pong and there's like a black screen behind and these, oh, it was, that was like pretty good.
[00:03:21] I think it was great.
[00:03:22] Because I literally thought they were on wires for the first few moves.
[00:03:25] But then I was like, this isn't, what's going on?
[00:03:27] Wait, what are you talking about?
[00:03:28] It was like, Drey and Harry have the battle.
[00:03:31] And then like, it was a half of the stage is dark.
[00:03:34] Yeah.
[00:03:34] And there were people like behind them and they were like lifting them up and moving them.
[00:03:37] Oh.
[00:03:37] So it looked like kind of slow motion.
[00:03:39] You thought it was wired until right now.
[00:03:40] Nice.
[00:03:41] So it was a good effect.
[00:03:42] But they just had people dressed in black behind them to like jump around with them.
[00:03:47] Because we got a view of like behind the scenes sometimes, but most of the time we didn't.
[00:03:50] Because we were like above, you could kind of see certain things.
[00:03:53] But it was, I just thought it was really cool.
[00:03:56] It left you like wondering so many times how they do that.
[00:03:59] Yeah.
[00:03:59] Hey, why in the world?
[00:04:01] It was great.
[00:04:02] And maybe that's part of why there was so much like dancing that felt a little out of place.
[00:04:07] They had to do a lot of things where they were setting up for the next scene or the magic or costume swaps.
[00:04:14] Because that's something I didn't really think about much.
[00:04:16] But then as you're watching it, you're like, oh yeah, with time travel, like you're having different people play different roles at different times and jumping around.
[00:04:25] And it must have been logistically crazy.
[00:04:26] Especially I was thinking about that during the time when Draco was wet.
[00:04:28] Like he had to go into that water.
[00:04:29] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:30] He was in like a scene like a few minutes later.
[00:04:32] Probably had to get completely dry.
[00:04:34] And then he went back in.
[00:04:35] And then he came, it was like all over the place.
[00:04:37] Yeah, you're right.
[00:04:37] I forgot about that.
[00:04:38] That was actually a cool scene when they were swimming underwater, but they were flying on the stage.
[00:04:44] It was really cool.
[00:04:45] And then they're in the water at the end of it, right?
[00:04:47] They like pop out on the bottom of the stage in a tank.
[00:04:51] And I guess it's just known that this is spoilers for anyone.
[00:04:55] We're just gonna embrace it.
[00:04:56] But like they kept doing the time travel and then everything was rippling like when it was going back in time.
[00:05:02] That was crazy.
[00:05:03] Such a cool effect.
[00:05:04] Such a cool light effect.
[00:05:05] Or whatever they were doing, it made it actually look like the space was warping.
[00:05:09] Like we were moving.
[00:05:10] Like every time they used the time turner, it was, yeah.
[00:05:12] That was so cool.
[00:05:13] I was like excited every time they used it.
[00:05:15] Yup.
[00:05:15] Because it really is.
[00:05:16] For anybody who hasn't seen it, it was like the stage pulses.
[00:05:19] It feels like you're part of it too.
[00:05:21] It was so cool.
[00:05:23] And then they interact with the audience some parts.
[00:05:26] Well, not like interact, but they come into it.
[00:05:28] But Dementors come and try to kiss people.
[00:05:29] The Dementors are terrifying.
[00:05:31] I love the Dementors.
[00:05:32] So good.
[00:05:32] That was so good.
[00:05:33] It was really good.
[00:05:34] Even like that wasn't like the magical effects, but they looked so good and so creepy.
[00:05:41] Yes.
[00:05:41] Like the people who ever made the costumes and the design for that kind of stuff is they were top notch.
[00:05:46] It looked phenomenal.
[00:05:49] The only thing I didn't like was the beginning.
[00:05:51] I felt like it was so rushed.
[00:05:53] Hmm.
[00:05:54] Yeah.
[00:05:55] I'm with you.
[00:05:55] Someone said that it was like, it used to be really long.
[00:05:58] You said that it used to be really long.
[00:05:59] So maybe they condensed it?
[00:06:01] Yeah.
[00:06:01] I don't know.
[00:06:02] I don't know.
[00:06:02] I don't know.
[00:06:03] I don't know.
[00:06:06] I don't know.
[00:06:07] I don't know.
[00:06:07] I don't know.
[00:06:12] I don't know.
[00:06:34] These are the characters.
[00:06:36] And I just didn't like the way they introduced some of people.
[00:06:39] Maybe that's it.
[00:06:39] I don't know.
[00:06:40] Yeah.
[00:06:40] It did feel quick, but I loved.
[00:06:42] I thought it was great overall.
[00:06:43] And the second act was really good, but I just was like, yeah, the first 20 minutes and
[00:06:48] they rushed through like his first three years at Hogwarts.
[00:06:52] They got to his forward.
[00:06:53] Yep.
[00:06:53] I was like, I get why they're doing all this stuff because they have to get to a certain
[00:06:56] point.
[00:06:57] But like everything was almost coming at you too fast.
[00:06:59] Whereas I feel like I didn't have the established characters that much.
[00:07:03] Um, but yeah.
[00:07:06] There.
[00:07:07] Yeah.
[00:07:07] Yeah.
[00:07:09] What was your guys?
[00:07:10] We'll go over like kind of just what were your favorite parts and what were your biggest
[00:07:14] least favorite or biggest gripes about it?
[00:07:16] So what did you, we'll talk about that first before you hit on any of the positives.
[00:07:20] What were the negative things that you guys didn't like in it?
[00:07:26] Um, you liked it all?
[00:07:29] No, I feel like some of the acting was a little like cheesy.
[00:07:32] Yeah.
[00:07:32] And like some of the characters, I just don't know if they like, um, like a character growth
[00:07:42] or whatever you guys in book club use.
[00:07:44] Oh, like a character arc?
[00:07:46] Yeah, that's it.
[00:07:47] Nice.
[00:07:48] Look at you.
[00:07:49] Book club words.
[00:07:52] Some of the character arcs.
[00:07:54] Um, although I will say the one character that I did love was Ginny.
[00:08:00] I felt like she got her sass back.
[00:08:02] She actually had fire and had sass and like was actually, she was a hot tamale again.
[00:08:05] Maybe not like the Ginny that we picture in the books, but a heck of a lot better than
[00:08:07] movie Ginny.
[00:08:08] Yep.
[00:08:08] Agreed.
[00:08:09] Like she was a little fiery.
[00:08:10] She like fought Harry on certain things.
[00:08:12] But she was still playful and fun.
[00:08:14] Likeable.
[00:08:15] Yeah.
[00:08:16] Good balance.
[00:08:21] Um, I love Scorpius.
[00:08:23] He was to me one of the most fascinating characters in the whole thing.
[00:08:25] So true.
[00:08:26] I thought he was great.
[00:08:28] Yeah.
[00:08:29] I feel like his character was interesting.
[00:08:31] I liked the, uh, what was it?
[00:08:35] His comedic, like.
[00:08:37] Yeah.
[00:08:37] Great comedic timing.
[00:08:39] Yeah.
[00:08:39] Yeah.
[00:08:39] That's what it was.
[00:08:40] And, and it was enough of that sarcasm and everything.
[00:08:44] Well, that's part of the weird thing about Broadway.
[00:08:46] It is theatrical by nature.
[00:08:49] And I don't always love that, but I think it worked well with some of his lines where
[00:08:55] they wouldn't really translate to a movie necessarily because it feels like some of the
[00:09:01] lines are so much for the audience.
[00:09:03] I know it sounds dumb to say, but it's like they are laugh lines, you know, where in a
[00:09:09] movie you don't have that pause to let people laugh.
[00:09:12] But in the show, something about it, I feel like, um, it made for a great show.
[00:09:17] I don't know how it would be in a movie.
[00:09:19] Um, and it took a little adjusting, but once I was into it, I was like, Oh, okay, cool.
[00:09:23] Yeah.
[00:09:23] I'm back into theater mode.
[00:09:24] This, this is fun.
[00:09:25] I'm okay with this.
[00:09:26] And you definitely have to get in theater mode when you go like, watch it.
[00:09:29] It's not like a movie that you're watching.
[00:09:31] So I think a lot of fans might be disappointed for that reason.
[00:09:33] But as far as like just the show is concerned, I thought it was really like pretty good.
[00:09:38] Um, the biggest gripes that fans have with, with, uh, with it.
[00:09:43] And I want to talk about these things with you is one of the biggest ones is they say
[00:09:47] they mischaracterize Harry in the whole play.
[00:09:49] And there's one line where they hate most fans, even the discord we're talking about
[00:09:54] it where Harry yells back at, uh, his son and he's like, sometimes I wish I never had a
[00:09:59] son or sometimes I never wish I had you as my son.
[00:10:03] According to how, you know, Harry and all seven books.
[00:10:05] Do you think that he would say that or not?
[00:10:07] Cause that's where the debate is.
[00:10:09] I'm trying to think back to what things he said to Ron when they were fighting.
[00:10:14] Yep.
[00:10:14] And I don't think any of it was to that level.
[00:10:17] And I have to think Harry would grow more mature.
[00:10:20] Yeah, exactly.
[00:10:21] You can lose your temper.
[00:10:23] Oh, you're saying it like that.
[00:10:24] Okay.
[00:10:24] I agree with, but everyone's saying like, I don't see that.
[00:10:29] That's his character.
[00:10:30] But then I think of parents when you're like, yeah, in, you're just so fed up and you're
[00:10:35] overwhelmed that you just say something and then you're like, Oh my gosh, I said that out
[00:10:39] loud.
[00:10:39] I think the same.
[00:10:40] I think that every, everybody and they're, they talk about another character with this,
[00:10:43] but I think every character is kind of capable of a break at some point where like Harry's
[00:10:49] probably been so exasperated by his son.
[00:10:51] So all of a sudden this comes out and just a moment of fury.
[00:10:53] And we've seen that in Harry before he's had moments where he's been really frustrated
[00:10:56] and distraught by people who have, you know, done.
[00:10:59] I don't know if he would literally say something as hurtful as that.
[00:11:03] Cause he never even said that to Ron.
[00:11:05] Like I wish you were never my friend or something.
[00:11:07] So he's not so, I don't think Harry's so dramatic.
[00:11:10] Yeah.
[00:11:11] He would say something a bit more like it might hurt, but it wouldn't be quite as painful.
[00:11:17] And I feel like if he was going to say something that out of character, I feel like we need
[00:11:24] to be led into it better to understand why, what brought him there.
[00:11:28] Nothing that I saw felt worthy of breaking his character to that level.
[00:11:34] So then it did feel a little out of place.
[00:11:36] Um, but maybe I still, it still was believable to me, but frustrating because it felt like the edge of what I could believe Harry was capable of.
[00:11:46] Yeah, for sure.
[00:11:47] So I was like, well, all right, I guess.
[00:11:50] Um, I loved the time travel, but also hated it.
[00:11:55] What do you mean?
[00:11:55] Um, I think I loved that we got to see other angles on the story we love.
[00:12:02] So time travel let us do that.
[00:12:04] And that was very cool, but I don't, and I do enjoy time travel on some level.
[00:12:10] Um, but I, I felt like it was slightly cheap storytelling.
[00:12:16] Yeah.
[00:12:16] Just because it, it escalates things in a weird way where then it's kind of playing on Harry Potter fans.
[00:12:27] You like this story?
[00:12:28] What about this twist?
[00:12:30] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:12:30] So I would just, something about it felt like, um, it was cheaper than just writing new stories.
[00:12:35] And it was a way of like having the stakes be so high again without having to reintroduce new villains or something.
[00:12:42] But it was fun to walk down memory lane.
[00:12:44] But then I think my complaint about time travel in general, in all stories, including this one is just that it cheapens the original story.
[00:12:52] Yeah.
[00:12:52] And then if we ever went back and we watch, you know, or we're looking in the books, would we ever see evidence of this happening during the parts of the books?
[00:13:02] Like, cause theoretically now, according to Canon, they were there in a church in Godric's hollow during those events.
[00:13:09] And so that just sits weird with me.
[00:13:12] Yeah.
[00:13:12] Cause I think it takes away from the original story.
[00:13:14] We like, I'm, I'm with you.
[00:13:16] I think it cheapens the story.
[00:13:17] I think it, I'll, it, however, does give fans moments.
[00:13:22] Like I took this play as not like a collective.
[00:13:25] I'm like collectively, I don't think it's Canon, but individually I I'm like taking little snippets as Canon.
[00:13:31] So when they're in Godric's hollow and it like made me tear up, I was like sitting in my seat, like, when Voldemort walks down, it was funny.
[00:13:39] Cause everyone, we're in the balcony.
[00:13:41] When everyone, when Voldemort walks down the aisle, everyone like in the audience, but when Harry is actually able to witness, which is a terrible thing.
[00:13:50] When Harry witnesses his parents murder is one of the, it was one of the most moving scenes in the whole thing.
[00:13:57] Like that was fascinating.
[00:13:59] The time Turner moving to Snape and Snape being alive and Snape like realizing what he has to do.
[00:14:04] And, and he's even says like, um, I'm tell like your friend that I'm proud that he bears my name or something like that.
[00:14:12] I'm like, even seeing a moment like that as a fan, I hate what if scenarios.
[00:14:16] Like the time Turner is full of those.
[00:14:18] They're just like, Oh, what if this happens?
[00:14:19] What if this happens?
[00:14:20] And that's what they were doing, which kind of drove me crazy.
[00:14:22] Cause one of the circumstances is like, um, bridge rises the power and the augury is like there who comes up later and Voldemort really is in power.
[00:14:31] And the whole atmosphere and vibe of that was dark and terrifying and like really scary.
[00:14:35] But the way they explained it was that Cedric was embarrassed, ended up falling to the dark side and kills Neville in the battle, which I'm like, that's a lot of, I want more like explanation on that.
[00:14:49] And I, that was one of the questions that I asked them in the discord.
[00:14:51] I was like, would Cedric have fallen from grace if he was just embarrassed in the triwizard tournament?
[00:14:58] And I don't know if that's what he would have done.
[00:15:01] First of all, cause he's a Hufflepuff and you know, like we got, we got each other's back.
[00:15:05] But I think, uh, that maybe is just a mischaracterization of Cedric to some extent.
[00:15:10] Although again, I think this play is rife with the things about like any moment, any moment, any character could crack and they could just have a bad day.
[00:15:20] And that changes the trajectory of their life.
[00:15:23] Wow.
[00:15:24] Yeah.
[00:15:24] Like even this, this, I think it all rests even with, uh, Albus where he is about like the sorting ceremony.
[00:15:30] He doesn't want to be in Slytherin.
[00:15:32] All of a sudden gets put in Slytherin and that like changes the track.
[00:15:36] He becomes like a moody teen.
[00:15:39] Sorting.
[00:15:40] That was funny.
[00:15:41] Yeah, it was kind of funny.
[00:15:42] Yeah.
[00:15:42] Yeah.
[00:15:43] But I feel like the time turner though, it is like, it excuses all the out of character moments.
[00:15:49] Yeah.
[00:15:49] Agreed.
[00:15:50] And you just kind of like reset everything.
[00:15:52] Cause isn't Cedric, wasn't his dad always bragging about him?
[00:15:56] Yeah.
[00:15:56] So like, I feel like he kind of was embarrassed all the time anyway.
[00:15:59] Like, I feel like he's used to just being like, Oh, whatever.
[00:16:03] And I don't think he's going to just go murder a classmate later because of that.
[00:16:08] Agreed.
[00:16:08] Wait, they're saying that he murdered Neville.
[00:16:11] Yeah.
[00:16:11] So in the tournament or after?
[00:16:14] In the battle of Hogwarts, like Cedric was on a, on a dark path.
[00:16:17] And then in the battle of Hogwarts, he murders Neville and Neville isn't able to kill Nagini.
[00:16:21] So when Harry dies, he dies.
[00:16:24] And then, uh, they, um, like Voldemort rises to power and takes over Hogwarts.
[00:16:33] It was, it was a dark scene.
[00:16:35] Like that whole thing when the mission broke and that came back.
[00:16:37] That was pretty terrifying.
[00:16:39] And I feel like that, how do you have kids here?
[00:16:42] Yeah.
[00:16:43] I'm scared.
[00:16:43] And if it's two nights, you're going home and that's the thing.
[00:16:46] And they changed the whole theater too.
[00:16:48] Like, yeah, they added flags out in the lobby.
[00:16:51] So when you're going to the bathroom, they had like Slytherin flags up and stuff.
[00:16:54] I didn't even realize that.
[00:16:55] That's cool.
[00:16:55] Um, cause at the beginning they had five flag posts, but only four flags in there for the
[00:17:01] houses.
[00:17:02] But then when you go out, they added the fifth one in there for Voldemort's whatever.
[00:17:06] Um, so you leave in that dark tone.
[00:17:09] Um, then you come back, I guess the next night.
[00:17:11] And then even the, um, the people who worked in the theater, they were saying something.
[00:17:15] What did they say?
[00:17:16] Like when we were taking our seats, the Voldemort day, where I was like, Oh yeah.
[00:17:23] Like all hail Voldemort or something like that.
[00:17:26] Too far guys.
[00:17:27] Yeah.
[00:17:28] They were all in on the, I'm in on the act too, which is really fun.
[00:17:31] Yeah.
[00:17:32] So I, I, yeah, I'm with you.
[00:17:34] I think the story was a little rushed and I don't think the story necessarily holds up
[00:17:37] because I'm with you.
[00:17:39] I think the time turners do cheapen it a bit, but given that they went down the time
[00:17:47] turner route, I am kind of glad that we got some of the scenes that we did get.
[00:17:50] Yeah.
[00:17:51] Like some of the what if scenarios.
[00:17:52] It would have been, yeah.
[00:17:53] I loved seeing what if Voldemort won.
[00:17:56] Yeah, seriously.
[00:17:56] Yeah.
[00:17:56] And Harry did.
[00:17:58] That was cool to watch play.
[00:17:59] What's that show you've mentioned, John, the Marvel one where they do that?
[00:18:02] It's like, Oh, so what ifs?
[00:18:04] It's literally called what if.
[00:18:04] Yeah.
[00:18:05] I feel like that would be really fun.
[00:18:06] And this was a taste of that in the Harry Potter world.
[00:18:09] That would have been cool.
[00:18:09] They just did that.
[00:18:10] I just don't like it being canon.
[00:18:11] What if they just did that though?
[00:18:13] I think they should do that.
[00:18:14] I'd be down.
[00:18:15] I'd be down.
[00:18:15] She didn't write this though, right?
[00:18:18] No, she kind of, okay.
[00:18:20] So she kind of co-wrote it.
[00:18:26] He even says himself, he's like, this is, this is not meant to be read.
[00:18:29] This is meant to be watched, which I'm with you.
[00:18:31] I'm like, I think I probably will read this play just to read it now and like see what
[00:18:35] the differences are.
[00:18:38] But when I was there, I was just mesmerized with everything.
[00:18:41] Like the plotting kind of still made sense.
[00:18:43] Like one of the biggest issues that people have in the plotting is there's no way that
[00:18:46] Voldemort really could have, it could have had a child with Bellatrix.
[00:18:50] And I was wondering about that too.
[00:18:52] The explanation that I have for that.
[00:18:53] But then I found ways in my head.
[00:18:54] Yeah.
[00:18:54] What are the ways in your head that you found out?
[00:18:57] Well, the timing for conception would have worked.
[00:19:01] Yeah.
[00:19:02] It could have.
[00:19:02] And then also she was at Malfoy Manor.
[00:19:05] We didn't see it.
[00:19:07] She even killed Dobby.
[00:19:08] She would have been very pregnant at that point and murder while pregnant probably influences
[00:19:11] the fetus.
[00:19:12] Um, but then I figured she could easily hide it with a charm so she could hide her pregnancy
[00:19:19] for however long.
[00:19:20] Also we, I think hinted at it at some point, but on some level they are able to take their
[00:19:28] own, um, bathroom issues and resolve them with a wand.
[00:19:32] Yeah.
[00:19:33] So why not deliver a baby with a wand?
[00:19:35] So, you know, I just figured there's so many ways to, to deliver a baby with magic that
[00:19:40] I'm sure she could have done that secretly even.
[00:19:44] Um, and it would be easy.
[00:19:45] Um, we always joke about it though.
[00:19:47] Like the chemistry.
[00:19:48] There was like, yeah, sexual chemistry between them.
[00:19:50] Which is my explanation for it.
[00:19:52] I think they can go in two different ways.
[00:19:54] I don't think it legitimately happened because, um, I don't think, and most people's gripe
[00:20:01] with this is they don't think Voldemort would actually be able to do it, which sounds weird,
[00:20:06] but like the first of all, the trust aspect of it where he wouldn't want to give another
[00:20:11] person the ability to like know a secret about him.
[00:20:14] He never really did that.
[00:20:15] Right.
[00:20:16] And he did do that with some Horcruxes.
[00:20:17] So I think there's like a slight flaw in that.
[00:20:19] Um, but even just his ability to like conceive a child just seems so foreign to people.
[00:20:25] And I think part of me thinks maybe, but the answer that I have is if he would do it to
[00:20:31] create a Horcrux, like the idea that he creates a child and that is his blood.
[00:20:36] And then that is like this last living Horcrux.
[00:20:39] Maybe he saw some of the stuff that Harry was realized that before the end.
[00:20:43] And then out of practicality shacks up with Bellatrix for one weekend to Bellatrix is great
[00:20:49] delight and, uh, as a child.
[00:20:52] Right.
[00:20:52] Another explanation that I have, which is the more likely explanation.
[00:20:55] I don't think that actually happened.
[00:20:57] And I think Bellatrix probably me like she, she might've had a child on her own with her
[00:21:02] husband and she just went touting off that it was yeah, it's child because she had such
[00:21:08] attraction to him that she was like, Hmm, I gotta, I gotta do something.
[00:21:13] So, yep.
[00:21:13] The interesting, the girl, um, what was her name?
[00:21:17] Uh, something with a D Delphi, Delphi Diggory, which I don't, she wasn't a Diggory.
[00:21:22] Correct?
[00:21:23] No, correct.
[00:21:23] Like was she raised in the family at all?
[00:21:25] No, she was just doing that spell to me.
[00:21:29] Wait, is an augury in the book?
[00:21:31] What even is that?
[00:21:32] I don't know what that is.
[00:21:33] An augury is an animal.
[00:21:34] So that's like, like it's in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them.
[00:21:36] It's a bird that predicts death or something like that.
[00:21:38] Cause she was like, I'm the augury.
[00:21:40] And then I heard you go, Oh, and I was like, I don't know what that word.
[00:21:44] Yeah.
[00:21:44] What's the reveal?
[00:21:45] So I said, Oh, because in, before you learn that she's the augury in the timeline where,
[00:21:50] where Belich or where, uh, Umbridge is taking over Hogwarts and Voldemort's in power, all
[00:21:55] of them in like one or two scenes, they mentioned, Oh, wait till the augury here is this.
[00:22:00] And I was like, no, in the play itself before she's reveals.
[00:22:05] I don't think so.
[00:22:06] Okay.
[00:22:06] It might be, it might be in like a random spot in the actual original Canon book.
[00:22:11] Cause I didn't catch that.
[00:22:12] Yeah.
[00:22:13] Me neither.
[00:22:14] So then they were hinting at her existence, but we never got to see it.
[00:22:18] But we never got to see it.
[00:22:18] And then when she pops up, she's the augury.
[00:22:20] And I was like, Oh, that makes sense.
[00:22:21] That was kind of interesting.
[00:22:22] I like how they did that.
[00:22:23] But the other, wait, so you're saying that is an animal.
[00:22:26] What did you say?
[00:22:26] It's an animal.
[00:22:27] It's a bird.
[00:22:27] So that's why she had like the back tattoo of the bird.
[00:22:29] Yeah.
[00:22:30] Which was like, you know, a move.
[00:22:33] But then I thought it was weird.
[00:22:34] I'm like her explanation was that she just wanted to see her dad.
[00:22:39] Yeah.
[00:22:40] That's why she wanted.
[00:22:41] She was doing all this stuff.
[00:22:43] I just thought that was.
[00:22:43] Wait, sorry.
[00:22:44] What do you mean her explanation?
[00:22:45] So she wanted to go back in time to change time so she could just see her dad.
[00:22:50] No, no, not see him.
[00:22:51] Stop him from killing Harry so he wouldn't die the first time and he could rise to power earlier.
[00:22:57] Although arguably that would cause her no longer to exist.
[00:23:00] That's what I was also thinking.
[00:23:02] But then again, why I hate time travel.
[00:23:05] Cause then you get into the whole time travel thing of like, then does it create a new branch
[00:23:08] in the timeline?
[00:23:09] Exactly.
[00:23:09] Or is it just always a cycle?
[00:23:11] That's why halfway through all the timeline changes, I was like, okay, they're entering
[00:23:13] a multiverse here.
[00:23:14] Yep.
[00:23:14] Which seemed to me a little bit frustrating.
[00:23:16] I was like, no, keep it at one universe.
[00:23:18] Yep.
[00:23:18] There's too many things that you can do.
[00:23:20] I'm like, I don't like that idea.
[00:23:21] But they did end it in the same universe, in the same timeline, according to how modern,
[00:23:30] you know, Hollywood is treating timelines and time travel so that they would never have
[00:23:36] to do more of this.
[00:23:38] They could leave it there and not touch it again.
[00:23:40] One and done.
[00:23:41] So hopefully, but then again, we've said that before.
[00:23:44] Yeah.
[00:23:45] And this showed us that it wasn't just one time keeper out there.
[00:23:49] It was a time turner.
[00:23:50] It was two because it was the one they confiscated.
[00:23:53] That was the prototype and then another one.
[00:23:54] So if someone made a prototype, they could easily come up with a story where someone
[00:23:58] else is making another prototype.
[00:23:59] Yeah.
[00:23:59] So it never truly would have to end.
[00:24:02] Um, but I hope it does.
[00:24:05] I know.
[00:24:05] Same.
[00:24:06] I also, yeah.
[00:24:08] Like I would have been fine if the play was just like, look, this is a what if scenario.
[00:24:15] Like don't even, don't even talk to me about time turners in the whole thing.
[00:24:19] I mean, time turn it, the whole thing does rest on time turners to be completely honest,
[00:24:22] which I just don't love.
[00:24:23] I think that's just a shaky point.
[00:24:26] But why they could have done like, what if?
[00:24:29] Yeah, I know.
[00:24:29] Without a time turner.
[00:24:30] They probably could have done the whole scenario, like rewrite it just through a what ifs kind
[00:24:34] of scenario.
[00:24:35] And I think it does.
[00:24:36] That also cheapens the story in one sense, but then you're just, well, just cause then
[00:24:41] everything you're watching isn't canon anymore.
[00:24:43] So there's less at stake.
[00:24:44] And then when you're watching all the moments.
[00:24:46] Real characters.
[00:24:47] Yeah.
[00:24:47] But then you end up getting lost in it.
[00:24:49] And then even as you know, wicked is gaining popularity, et cetera.
[00:24:52] That was a big thing back then when wizard of Oz and babes in toy land.
[00:24:57] And it was like those movies where it starts where something happens and then everything
[00:25:01] is a dream from then on.
[00:25:02] And you kind of realize it or you forget about it.
[00:25:05] And then by the end of the movie, the person wakes up.
[00:25:07] You're like, oh yeah, that whole thing was a dream.
[00:25:08] Honestly, they could have done that.
[00:25:10] Maybe they did.
[00:25:10] Did someone fall asleep in the beginning of that?
[00:25:12] Yeah, right, right.
[00:25:13] Yeah.
[00:25:13] He wakes up and he's just a nap.
[00:25:15] He's 11 years old on the train to Hogwarts first year.
[00:25:17] So they should like wake it is before Wizard of Oz.
[00:25:19] So then we're saying we should have had a plan before Harry was born.
[00:25:26] Hmm.
[00:25:27] Sure.
[00:25:30] So it just feels.
[00:25:31] That would have been interesting too.
[00:25:32] Honestly, that would be.
[00:25:33] Yeah.
[00:25:34] I'm like they could have, though the whole plotting and play of it, I did think was
[00:25:38] kind of entertaining when I was there.
[00:25:39] I was like, I just it was just fascinating to be in the world again.
[00:25:43] Um, yeah, I think that's what it was.
[00:25:46] So fun to be in the world.
[00:25:48] And the characters you knew and the personalities.
[00:25:50] And then that was like.
[00:25:51] And familiar places and people.
[00:25:54] I was so surprised.
[00:25:55] I did not think we were going to see so many characters.
[00:25:57] I thought it was going to be an isolated story with like one or two crossover characters.
[00:26:02] Yeah.
[00:26:02] So I was happy every time.
[00:26:04] Yeah.
[00:26:04] Same.
[00:26:05] It was so fun to see.
[00:26:06] Yeah.
[00:26:06] Even like McGonagall.
[00:26:07] It was so fun to see her.
[00:26:09] Hermione.
[00:26:10] Moaning Myrtle was so good.
[00:26:12] Oh my gosh.
[00:26:13] I loved her.
[00:26:13] That was really funny.
[00:26:16] She was really good actually.
[00:26:16] That was so over the top.
[00:26:17] I was like, whoa.
[00:26:19] She has a perfect voice.
[00:26:20] This is the most unsubtle.
[00:26:21] Yes.
[00:26:22] Yep.
[00:26:23] That was.
[00:26:23] And then her comments that were like.
[00:26:28] Yep.
[00:26:29] They were all rife.
[00:26:30] They were all just loaded with sexual.
[00:26:33] Yeah.
[00:26:34] They took whatever was there in the movies and blasted it to 10.
[00:26:38] Because it was like, whoa.
[00:26:39] Yeah.
[00:26:40] This is a lot.
[00:26:41] Yeah.
[00:26:41] It was funny.
[00:26:42] It was like for the last like, what would it be like 10 years?
[00:26:45] She was just storing up all that pent up sexual frustration and put it all into one
[00:26:51] scene.
[00:26:52] It's so funny.
[00:26:52] She was so funny though.
[00:26:53] That was great.
[00:26:54] That was a great, great scene.
[00:26:56] I mean, it was yeah.
[00:26:58] Anytime like a new or a character that we an old character popped up.
[00:27:01] It was just fun to see them.
[00:27:02] Yeah.
[00:27:03] Even even when a bridge is coming out.
[00:27:06] I was just like, oh, who is this?
[00:27:08] What's going on?
[00:27:09] And then they were like, oh, hello, headmaster.
[00:27:11] Umbridge.
[00:27:11] I was like, wow.
[00:27:14] That's crazy.
[00:27:15] Yeah.
[00:27:15] That's great.
[00:27:16] It was just like fun to see those characters.
[00:27:18] Yeah, it really was.
[00:27:19] Um, I have to say some of them were like what they did with some of them was really interesting.
[00:27:24] Like I, there was some that I didn't love like what they did with Harry or Neville, but
[00:27:29] I think what they did with Draco was maybe one of my favorite parts of the whole play.
[00:27:33] Hmm.
[00:27:33] In what way?
[00:27:34] Cause he would, he just seemed overwhelmed with grief that his wife had passed away.
[00:27:39] Hmm.
[00:27:40] And I'm like, they made him very human and made him very like, they gave him a good amount
[00:27:45] of depth that I think the Malfoys did have in the books, but like they fleshed out a
[00:27:51] bit more and Scorpius kind of like softens them up a little bit.
[00:27:54] I love in the end when they're all hugging and Draco's like, we can hug too if you'd like.
[00:28:00] Yeah.
[00:28:00] Yeah.
[00:28:01] Like it was so cute.
[00:28:03] Um, like him and Scorpius, like he, even though his Scorpius is so different from him,
[00:28:07] he just is trying to shed this old moniker of who he is.
[00:28:10] And like the rumors that have swirled about his son and he's so overwhelmed with grief about
[00:28:15] his, uh, dead wife and he just wants to connect with the son and he's struggling to do that.
[00:28:22] So I love that he was like fighting tooth and nail.
[00:28:25] I love that their battle with him and Harry was based on Draco thinking that they should
[00:28:31] be friends and Harry not thinking they should be friends.
[00:28:34] It seems like a weird thing for Harry to do.
[00:28:37] Yeah.
[00:28:37] I'm like, I love that Draco is actually fighting for his son to have Harry Potter's son as a
[00:28:42] friend.
[00:28:42] Mm hmm.
[00:28:42] That's so cool.
[00:28:44] It's so weird.
[00:28:44] It's great.
[00:28:45] It's like a cool moment of redemption, I think.
[00:28:47] Yeah, you're right.
[00:28:48] I like Scorpius as the comedic relief, like you were saying before, because then he's
[00:28:53] totally like against all of the Malfoy stereotypes.
[00:28:57] Yeah.
[00:28:58] And like that to me was really fun because I felt like, oh, he's a Malfoy.
[00:29:02] Like he's not going to be great.
[00:29:03] But then he was just genuinely like a really nice person.
[00:29:07] Yeah.
[00:29:07] And then the fact that that kind of came from like the Potter side.
[00:29:10] Like you can't be friends.
[00:29:12] Yeah.
[00:29:12] It's like, oh, it was such a good like, yeah, they did so good on that.
[00:29:16] I thought even in the beginning when you just meet Scorpius, he's like cracking jokes
[00:29:20] about like him being the cursed child.
[00:29:22] And I was like, he just seems like a great kid.
[00:29:24] He seems like a fun kid.
[00:29:29] What were your favorite parts?
[00:29:31] And then we'll do, we'll do, we'll kind of do like the wrap ups.
[00:29:35] What were your favorite parts?
[00:29:38] Who is your hot tamale and who is your favorite character?
[00:29:41] And then we'll rate it out of 10.
[00:29:48] Oh, the few parts at the end that kind of got me a more emotional were to me were like some
[00:29:53] of the best parts like Harry watching his parents sacrifice their lives.
[00:29:58] Even though like, you know, that really shouldn't happen.
[00:30:01] It was, it was an interesting decision that they made Harry want, like that they gave Harry
[00:30:05] the opportunity to watch and he wanted to watch that.
[00:30:07] But we didn't have to watch it, which was also nice.
[00:30:10] Yeah, seriously.
[00:30:11] They're facing the audience and we're just seeing lighting.
[00:30:14] Brilliant idea.
[00:30:15] And so it's like, we're really, we're still focused on the characters, not the death and
[00:30:21] their response to it.
[00:30:22] So yeah, that was definitely emotional.
[00:30:27] All those scenes in the church were pretty, pretty epic.
[00:30:30] Oh, I loved when they were doing any changing when Polly juice or the transfiguration
[00:30:35] That was great effects too.
[00:30:37] That was cool.
[00:30:38] So those scenes were some of my favorites.
[00:30:42] For anyone who didn't see it, it was like, you're watching someone transform in front of
[00:30:45] your eyes and then they're literally a different person.
[00:30:48] And you're like, what?
[00:30:49] Yeah.
[00:30:49] So then afterwards I'm like thinking, so I guess underneath their robes, someone must
[00:30:53] have come up from under the stage.
[00:30:55] And then they ducked their heads into the robe and I was like, okay, there's a square there.
[00:31:00] There's a square there.
[00:31:01] And then they didn't stand on the square.
[00:31:03] Right.
[00:31:03] So I'm like, I was like, wait, now this is throwing me so far off.
[00:31:06] Cause I was tracking and then I wasn't.
[00:31:08] We had that balcony view.
[00:31:09] So like we can kind of see what's going on.
[00:31:11] I'm like, nobody's sneaking up behind them.
[00:31:13] This is like,
[00:31:13] No, I was waiting for like when we could see something from our angle.
[00:31:17] And I was like, oh, it's going to ruin something.
[00:31:18] But it really did.
[00:31:19] No, it was, it was incredible.
[00:31:21] We also did address Dumbledore and the portrait was so awesome.
[00:31:26] Yeah.
[00:31:26] That was great.
[00:31:27] I loved the way that they portrayed that on the stage.
[00:31:30] Like it looked like he actually was in a portrait.
[00:31:34] Yeah.
[00:31:35] That was a great, good point.
[00:31:37] I kind of forgot about that.
[00:31:39] And that was one of my top like scenes.
[00:31:41] Yeah, I'm with you.
[00:31:41] Cause I was like, how are they going to do this?
[00:31:44] And I'm like, oh my gosh, it literally looks like he's in the portrait giving advice
[00:31:48] like Dumbledore would and it was cool to have him, his perspective on things too.
[00:31:53] And even from our perspective, it still looks so cool.
[00:31:56] I know.
[00:31:56] Like we were above the stage.
[00:31:57] Yeah.
[00:31:58] And like, we're looking down and he still looks like he's in the portrait.
[00:32:00] It was amazing.
[00:32:01] The lighting on it, like it was done great.
[00:32:04] And they had the one that, I think the first one too, like he was in the portrait, but like
[00:32:09] you couldn't see his legs.
[00:32:11] But like the second one by the bed.
[00:32:13] Oh my gosh.
[00:32:15] That was my favorite.
[00:32:16] I can still picture it.
[00:32:17] It was great.
[00:32:18] They did.
[00:32:19] And I love the dialogue that Harry had with Dumbledore too.
[00:32:22] They're still like, Harry's still hurt.
[00:32:25] He's still like trying to let off some like steam, like these burdens that like Dumbledore
[00:32:29] really should have been a father to him and he kind of wasn't and he struggled with that.
[00:32:32] And I love that Harry's still wrestling with some of those things.
[00:32:35] Hmm.
[00:32:35] One character we were missing that we were kind of loved was Hagrid.
[00:32:39] I know.
[00:32:40] I was shocked about that.
[00:32:41] Oh yeah.
[00:32:41] I totally forgot about that.
[00:32:43] Yeah.
[00:32:43] You two are always talking about it.
[00:32:44] And then I just thought, I was like, wait, he wasn't a part of it.
[00:32:47] Because even in the playbill, there's, it's like listed the characters that you should
[00:32:53] reacquaint yourself with and Hagrid's in there.
[00:32:55] Oh, I thought for sure he was going to pop up, but he just doesn't.
[00:32:58] Oh, I didn't have time to read them.
[00:33:00] Yeah.
[00:33:02] I was, yeah, I was bummed that we didn't get them.
[00:33:04] Journey to the eighth story.
[00:33:05] Oh, that's cool.
[00:33:07] I like that they had the, I like the Patronus a lot.
[00:33:11] Oh, that was great.
[00:33:12] That was so good.
[00:33:14] I just wish it was bigger.
[00:33:15] Yeah.
[00:33:15] It should have been more than just the head.
[00:33:17] But it was very cool.
[00:33:19] Yeah.
[00:33:19] That was really cool.
[00:33:20] I was waiting for always.
[00:33:22] Yeah.
[00:33:23] They did it a few times.
[00:33:24] They didn't say it.
[00:33:25] They said it.
[00:33:25] Yeah.
[00:33:26] There was one scene where they did say it.
[00:33:28] I missed it.
[00:33:28] And yeah, I did kind of miss that.
[00:33:32] But the, speaking of the Patronus, I loved, I don't know technically how this is done.
[00:33:37] And I want, I don't, yeah.
[00:33:40] So do you remember in the books when, I think it's the Patronus, I might be wrong about
[00:33:48] this.
[00:33:51] When Snape, where's the scene in the books when Snape is talking, I forgot who he's talking
[00:33:56] to, but he seems like the Patronus isn't the only way to do things.
[00:34:01] Like isn't the only way to ward off the Dementor.
[00:34:04] Like there's another.
[00:34:05] Oh, interesting.
[00:34:06] Was it that or was it a Occlumency?
[00:34:10] Ooh.
[00:34:11] I don't know what you're referring to exactly.
[00:34:14] So, oh man, this is gonna drive me crazy.
[00:34:16] I think it was, I think it was a Patronus.
[00:34:19] Yeah.
[00:34:19] Cause he was, I've, was he talking to Harry?
[00:34:23] I think so.
[00:34:24] Yeah.
[00:34:24] And then he was saying like, oh, there's other ways.
[00:34:26] Like, cause he was trying to hide his Patronus from everyone at that point.
[00:34:31] But yeah.
[00:34:32] Cause I remember being like, oh, I wonder if he just thinks like so many sad thoughts
[00:34:36] that like he can't find it.
[00:34:38] Yeah.
[00:34:39] But that was right.
[00:34:40] Correct.
[00:34:40] But yeah.
[00:34:41] Because were you waiting for like the other?
[00:34:43] Yes.
[00:34:44] The other Patronus thing to come out.
[00:34:46] I was waiting for how Snape, I think it was a Patronus.
[00:34:48] I should have reacquainted myself for the, for the podcast, but that's why it was interesting
[00:34:53] in the play.
[00:34:53] There was one thing that Snape said to, uh, Scorpius or Albus or one of them.
[00:35:01] And I loved it.
[00:35:02] And I loved it because it seemed to answer that question, which was like, who are you fighting
[00:35:06] for?
[00:35:08] Yeah.
[00:35:08] And I loved it because I'm like, Oh yeah.
[00:35:10] Is that the way that Snape wards off the Dementors?
[00:35:13] I think it was, I think it has to do with Dementors.
[00:35:14] I think, uh, I think it was like, uh, Snape doesn't use Patronuses to ward off Dementors.
[00:35:20] Yeah.
[00:35:20] And this seemed to answer that because even though they did use the Patronus in the play,
[00:35:24] it was like, who are you fighting for?
[00:35:26] Hmm.
[00:35:26] Seems like a strong response.
[00:35:27] If you keep that in your mind and the, I don't know, maybe do some kind of incantation.
[00:35:30] Oh, and they were in the field with the Dementors.
[00:35:33] Yep.
[00:35:34] Cause it's another kind of love element.
[00:35:36] Exactly.
[00:35:36] Cause Sirius knew what he was fighting for and who he was fighting for when he was in
[00:35:40] prison and the Dementors couldn't really get to him.
[00:35:42] Right.
[00:35:42] Even though he didn't have the Patronus.
[00:35:43] So I thought that was a great, uh, little addition.
[00:35:47] I really want to like, I'm going to reread the whole series and then go back and watch
[00:35:52] watch this play again and figure, figure out if that's actually what they were talking
[00:35:56] about.
[00:35:57] That works for Snape though, because he has Lily that he's always fighting for.
[00:36:01] Yes.
[00:36:01] But I feel like there's so many people that have no specific person.
[00:36:05] Which is why they need happy memories.
[00:36:07] Yeah.
[00:36:07] It's like almost like a cheaper form of that.
[00:36:09] I kind of like Snape's way more.
[00:36:09] I wonder how you found that out.
[00:36:10] Yeah.
[00:36:12] I don't know.
[00:36:13] I just thought that was kind of fascinating.
[00:36:14] I liked that.
[00:36:16] Hmm.
[00:36:16] But yeah, the Patronus was a really cool part of the play too.
[00:36:18] Yeah.
[00:36:19] An emotional part too.
[00:36:20] I think one of my favorite parts was when, uh, they realized that she was like crazy.
[00:36:26] The lights.
[00:36:27] Yeah.
[00:36:28] I know.
[00:36:28] I was just thinking the.
[00:36:29] The neon.
[00:36:30] The neon.
[00:36:31] The neon light.
[00:36:33] The cedar is just illuminated and like.
[00:36:35] That was one of my favorites.
[00:36:37] That was so crazy.
[00:36:38] So these are fair moments.
[00:36:40] Yeah.
[00:36:40] Fair moments.
[00:36:41] Yeah.
[00:36:41] And I was thinking, I'm like, man, I've been to enough Broadway things and they never redo
[00:36:45] the carpet and the wallpaper in a theater.
[00:36:48] Yeah.
[00:36:48] They're just like a shows in for a little whatever.
[00:36:50] Yeah.
[00:36:51] And then all the carpet and wallpaper was redone for the show.
[00:36:54] Yeah.
[00:36:54] And then you see why.
[00:36:55] Cause it's all written all over.
[00:36:56] It was cool.
[00:36:57] It was so cool.
[00:36:58] Um, great effect.
[00:37:00] They had.
[00:37:00] You noticed that it was redone.
[00:37:01] Well, it had the H's of Hogwarts and wands and stuff.
[00:37:04] So then I was like, oh, that's like cool.
[00:37:06] It was like.
[00:37:06] I didn't know that.
[00:37:07] I think they did it with the expectation this play is going to go on for.
[00:37:10] For a long time.
[00:37:11] Yeah.
[00:37:13] Um, and it, it likely will.
[00:37:15] Yeah.
[00:37:15] The little lights were Phoenix's too.
[00:37:18] I don't know if you saw that.
[00:37:19] I noticed that.
[00:37:20] I don't think I did.
[00:37:20] Wait, which one's the little lights?
[00:37:22] Like all around the, like the front of the balcony.
[00:37:25] Oh, that's cool.
[00:37:26] They were what?
[00:37:27] Phoenix's.
[00:37:28] Man, they put in the work.
[00:37:29] They really did put in the work.
[00:37:30] It was, they did great.
[00:37:31] Yeah.
[00:37:32] It showed.
[00:37:35] Any other favorite parts?
[00:37:38] I feel like I'm, I'm thinking from the theater perspective of just the effects.
[00:37:42] Like when they were on the top of the train.
[00:37:44] Yeah.
[00:37:44] Great effect.
[00:37:45] Um, there were just so many cool effects that that's distracting me from the story.
[00:37:50] Yeah.
[00:37:51] Um, but the characters are great.
[00:37:52] Um, who was your favorite character?
[00:37:59] Let's do hot tamale and favorite character.
[00:38:02] I honestly really enjoyed Hermione like way more than I did in the book.
[00:38:07] She was great.
[00:38:08] Yep.
[00:38:09] I don't know.
[00:38:10] I just really liked Hermione.
[00:38:11] Favorite character or hot tamale?
[00:38:13] Um, favorite character.
[00:38:15] Okay.
[00:38:15] Wow.
[00:38:16] I love that.
[00:38:16] Yeah.
[00:38:18] Same Myrtles.
[00:38:20] Myrtles was a wet tamale.
[00:38:22] Yeah.
[00:38:22] That's even, that's a good one.
[00:38:26] I'm going to give Ginny my hot tamale because I think she finally deserved it.
[00:38:30] Yeah.
[00:38:31] She was hot tamale energy.
[00:38:32] She was great.
[00:38:32] Nice.
[00:38:33] Hmm.
[00:38:35] And then weirdly, I think my favorite is Draco.
[00:38:38] Draco or Scorpius.
[00:38:39] I thought they were great in the play.
[00:38:41] I love them.
[00:38:41] Scorpius was just entertaining.
[00:38:43] Yeah.
[00:38:44] Yeah.
[00:38:44] Scorpius is going to be my favorite character.
[00:38:47] Hmm.
[00:38:50] Yeah.
[00:38:50] I actually, I just liked them the most.
[00:38:53] Yeah.
[00:38:53] I wish it could be Albus, but he bothered me a little bit too much.
[00:38:55] Yeah.
[00:38:55] I wish I could be a good point.
[00:38:57] Just like Harry said.
[00:38:59] Yeah.
[00:39:00] Legit.
[00:39:01] Yeah.
[00:39:02] I don't know.
[00:39:03] I'm trying to pick someone.
[00:39:04] I'm trying to pick someone up.
[00:39:05] Have they learned nothing from the stories?
[00:39:07] I know.
[00:39:08] For real.
[00:39:09] Okay.
[00:39:11] Well, maybe my favorite is Dumbledore in the portrait just to be different.
[00:39:17] Dumbledore?
[00:39:18] Just to be different, because I kind of agree with that.
[00:39:21] I'm like maybe Dumbledore in the portrait.
[00:39:24] Sorry, he should do that first.
[00:39:25] Honestly, he was great too.
[00:39:26] That was, and I just thought it was a neat, wow, magic.
[00:39:31] Hmm.
[00:39:33] I just liked that he, I don't know, just being in the portrait, like his character in
[00:39:40] the portrait was just great.
[00:39:41] Yeah.
[00:39:42] It was.
[00:39:43] That bit of like magic that they did on stage was so cool.
[00:39:47] I was blown away.
[00:39:48] Which is why, again, I think this is definitely something that you have to see rather than
[00:39:51] just read.
[00:39:52] Yeah.
[00:39:52] I'm sure I'm going to read this in the next few months and I'm sure I'm going to read
[00:39:55] it and be so frustrated by some of the things in here.
[00:39:57] Hmm.
[00:39:58] But as far as like a play, it was so entertaining.
[00:40:00] Yeah.
[00:40:00] I went, again, went in with super low expectations and came out pretty blown away by how good
[00:40:06] it was.
[00:40:06] Hmm.
[00:40:08] And I knew all like the problems going in beforehand and I was still pretty blown away.
[00:40:11] I even thought like the Diggory Girl, like that was a nice spin.
[00:40:15] I don't think I was expecting it.
[00:40:17] Yeah.
[00:40:17] Yeah.
[00:40:18] Agreed.
[00:40:18] And then she's flirting with Harry.
[00:40:20] So then you're like, oh, it's going to be like a romance.
[00:40:22] Or not Harry.
[00:40:23] What's his name?
[00:40:24] Albus.
[00:40:24] They look so much alike.
[00:40:25] Albus.
[00:40:26] Yeah.
[00:40:27] Which in the beginning when they showed her, I was like, is this like long lost sister
[00:40:30] of Cedric?
[00:40:31] Like who is this?
[00:40:31] That's what I thought too.
[00:40:32] And I was like, niece.
[00:40:33] I'm like, what happened?
[00:40:35] Oh, yeah.
[00:40:35] And then you know he was curious to her?
[00:40:36] Hmm.
[00:40:36] So like there was always suspicion.
[00:40:38] And then, um, that's what we were talking about during intermission.
[00:40:41] We were like, did, uh, was she in the box?
[00:40:44] Did Delphi ever come up to like in a random subchapter.
[00:40:47] Which is funny.
[00:40:47] Cause in the net and the next.
[00:40:48] Second one, it was like, she wasn't really, she was like, you know, using the Imperials.
[00:40:52] I know, but like, that's what was great.
[00:40:55] It was so cool.
[00:40:56] she's my hot tamale maybe
[00:40:59] she's hanging from the ceiling
[00:41:01] in like a winged
[00:41:03] vest it was pretty cool
[00:41:05] I mean it was cool fair enough
[00:41:07] I didn't like her character but she had
[00:41:09] the energy you know
[00:41:11] the dementors were hanging from the ceiling
[00:41:13] they actually
[00:41:15] that was probably my favorite part
[00:41:18] that was so terrifying and loud
[00:41:21] my ears were ringing
[00:41:22] oh my gosh I had to cover my ears
[00:41:24] that was bad
[00:41:25] so I'm going to give this a
[00:41:29] 8.7 out of 10
[00:41:31] wow
[00:41:32] I thought it was great
[00:41:33] no rookie scores here
[00:41:36] 8 point
[00:41:37] you should have had Danny go first
[00:41:39] you would have lowered all of ours
[00:41:41] no no I was going to definitely say 8 something
[00:41:43] but I was just going to say a solid 8
[00:41:45] but now I'm just thinking
[00:41:47] was it high enough in the 8s
[00:41:49] because I would have rounded up to 9 maybe
[00:41:51] but I was going to say like an 8
[00:41:54] point 2
[00:41:56] and when we went to a Friendsgiving right afterwards
[00:41:59] so I said anyone
[00:42:02] because they asked and I said
[00:42:03] if anyone enjoys Broadway theater
[00:42:06] and they know the Harry Potter story
[00:42:08] they'll love the show
[00:42:09] yeah I agree
[00:42:10] but if you didn't know the Harry Potter story
[00:42:14] it would be a little bit confusing
[00:42:15] but I think anyone would still enjoy it
[00:42:18] like it'd be a 6 for anybody
[00:42:19] even if you don't like Broadway
[00:42:21] or even if you don't like Harry Potter
[00:42:22] you could still enjoy the show
[00:42:24] but if you love theater and Harry Potter
[00:42:27] definitely 8 something
[00:42:28] agreed
[00:42:30] but what do you guys think?
[00:42:31] well I wanted to break up the first and second act
[00:42:34] because the first act I thought was like a 6
[00:42:37] but then the second act
[00:42:39] I felt like was higher
[00:42:41] like a 7.5
[00:42:43] an 8
[00:42:44] oh wow
[00:42:44] Jen's really critical
[00:42:45] yeah well my goodness
[00:42:46] well because I'm comparing it to like Wicked
[00:42:48] or like other Broadway plays
[00:42:51] which if you're going to compare it to other shows
[00:42:54] yeah
[00:42:54] I was too
[00:42:55] and that's why it gets an 8.2
[00:42:58] wow
[00:42:59] I guess I like different
[00:43:01] I think there's definitely better on Broadway
[00:43:03] yeah
[00:43:04] but
[00:43:04] just coming from Harry Potter
[00:43:05] I think there were just weird pauses
[00:43:06] I didn't feel like the whole show was like fluid
[00:43:09] yeah whereas Wicked
[00:43:11] okay
[00:43:11] every
[00:43:11] every
[00:43:12] you're kind of like gripped everything that happens
[00:43:13] yeah like
[00:43:14] one thing moves to the next
[00:43:15] it's like there's no pause of you waiting
[00:43:17] so that's the one thing that I didn't like about it
[00:43:20] yeah
[00:43:20] okay
[00:43:21] because if they were singing during it
[00:43:23] even though it would be weird
[00:43:24] I feel like
[00:43:25] it would be entertaining
[00:43:26] like it would just grip you
[00:43:28] yeah
[00:43:28] instead of you just watching these staircases move
[00:43:30] but maybe I just
[00:43:32] because it felt like so long
[00:43:33] it was like 10 minutes
[00:43:34] it felt like
[00:43:35] them walking up and down the stairs
[00:43:37] and them moving
[00:43:38] I was clearly more gripped by it than you
[00:43:41] I was like
[00:43:41] it was like 30 seconds
[00:43:42] I was like
[00:43:43] this is cool
[00:43:43] I thought
[00:43:44] I was like
[00:43:44] how many times
[00:43:45] are they going to go up and down these stairs
[00:43:47] that's funny
[00:43:48] so
[00:43:49] but
[00:43:49] I've over
[00:43:50] like yes
[00:43:51] I thought it was very entertaining
[00:43:52] I love the magic
[00:43:54] I would see it again
[00:43:56] with other friends
[00:43:57] or something
[00:43:58] yeah
[00:43:58] you wouldn't see it with us again
[00:43:59] come on
[00:44:00] not with you guys obviously
[00:44:04] I give it
[00:44:05] an
[00:44:08] 8.5
[00:44:09] wow
[00:44:10] wow
[00:44:11] because I feel like you liked it more than me
[00:44:13] and I don't want to say 8.7
[00:44:14] because you already said it
[00:44:16] I'll say 8.9
[00:44:18] so you can say 8.7
[00:44:19] 8.5 feels good
[00:44:21] I'm going to give it that
[00:44:22] yeah that's
[00:44:22] that's fair
[00:44:23] wow
[00:44:24] you're a really bad one
[00:44:25] this is a Broadway critic
[00:44:27] you said between 6 and 7.5
[00:44:31] a 6
[00:44:32] for the first act
[00:44:33] I thought it was too fast
[00:44:35] but she liked the second act
[00:44:36] and that was still a 7.5
[00:44:38] so it averages out to a high 6
[00:44:40] and that's not great
[00:44:43] maybe an 8
[00:44:44] and you're saying
[00:44:45] first and second
[00:44:46] meaning like
[00:44:46] before intermission
[00:44:47] and after intermission
[00:44:49] except I don't really know
[00:44:50] like where intermission was
[00:44:52] I can't remember it
[00:44:53] but I just really hate the beginning
[00:44:55] right
[00:44:55] and that's what you're saying
[00:44:56] yeah
[00:44:56] it was like the first half hour
[00:44:58] I did not like
[00:44:59] because Jen was expecting singing
[00:45:00] for the whole thing
[00:45:01] like when is the singing going
[00:45:03] no just like
[00:45:04] I don't know
[00:45:06] I'm with you
[00:45:06] I'm with you actually
[00:45:07] I just
[00:45:07] I think that's what really threw it for me
[00:45:09] like it slowly ramped up
[00:45:11] rather than like
[00:45:12] they didn't
[00:45:12] and even if you
[00:45:13] slowly ramp up
[00:45:14] you need to build up
[00:45:14] the characters better
[00:45:16] exactly
[00:45:16] or it like
[00:45:17] was great from the beginning
[00:45:19] with like the scenery
[00:45:20] or in the pacing
[00:45:22] but that's why now
[00:45:23] I'm curious
[00:45:23] what it would have been like
[00:45:24] if it was
[00:45:24] the two days
[00:45:25] day one
[00:45:26] because then maybe
[00:45:27] it would have made more sense
[00:45:28] and I would have liked it more
[00:45:29] yeah
[00:45:31] I'm with you
[00:45:32] but yeah I did see
[00:45:33] other plays
[00:45:34] that I liked more
[00:45:35] right
[00:45:36] and that does make a difference
[00:45:37] now we're going to do
[00:45:38] Broadway plays
[00:45:39] in the first time watchers
[00:45:40] we're going to really
[00:45:41] I'll get my list for you
[00:45:44] do I remember any of them
[00:45:47] Jen's going to be the host
[00:45:48] of that podcast
[00:45:49] I like it
[00:45:50] Annie Get Your Gun
[00:45:51] I love that one
[00:45:52] never seen that one
[00:45:53] it's not on Broadway anymore
[00:45:56] I watched it as a child
[00:45:57] but it's stuck
[00:45:59] like literally
[00:45:59] I don't know
[00:46:01] I need to find it somewhere
[00:46:02] to relearn it
[00:46:04] alright well
[00:46:04] that concludes our
[00:46:06] Harry Potter discussion
[00:46:10] we'll see you next time
[00:46:11] on the next event
[00:46:13] yeah
[00:46:14] whatever we have going on
[00:46:14] oh also we never watched
[00:46:16] Fantastic Beasts
[00:46:16] so we gotta do that
[00:46:17] yeah yeah
[00:46:18] you guys gotta do that
[00:46:18] yeah
[00:46:18] we gotta yeah
[00:46:19] I'm down
[00:46:20] we'll do a Fantastic Beasts
[00:46:21] movie night
[00:46:22] have you ever seen them
[00:46:24] nope
[00:46:24] they're great
[00:46:25] they're great
[00:46:26] oh nice
[00:46:26] we'll do that
[00:46:27] we'll do some breakdowns
[00:46:28] of those movies
[00:46:28] that'll be good
[00:46:29] I'll see you next time